Comfused sound system setup, Hope sifus help!
Comfused sound system setup, Hope sifus help!
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Dec 28 2012, 03:08 AM, updated 13y ago
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Hello all sifus, currently Im new in ICE and I just went for a Focal 100 KRS and a Focal Ibus 2.1 sub.. Im currently using the Ibus to channel the power to my front speaker which is 55w.. Considering to add a good amp since the shop people told me my focal speaker can support up to 100w and 55w is not sufficient for it to perform nicely. After that I heard from other people that 55w is sufficient and wont make much different compare to an 100w amp. Im comfused right now as I wanted to change rear speaker too and shop people intro to change head unit too as it can make big differences in the music as for the 24bit and alot more clearer music when played, they proposed clarion multimedia head unit.. Im thinking if Im changing head unit and the amp really make no much differences i might as well use the head unit built in amp 50w for my rear and nonid for an additional amp cause it cost a bomb too! lol.. Feel wasted if I put another amp since the underseat sub got build in 2 channel 55w and the head unit 50w x 4.. For sifus info im driving myvi 1.5 SE.. How should I do?
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Dec 28 2012, 08:33 AM
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The rear speaker part can just leave it for the time being... I recon you should change the HU first to have a better output in sound before you add another amp.
After HU, then maybe you can consider adding amp of which a monoblock should work nice for the sub. With the new monoblock, your current amp can fully utilised for the focal component set. |
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Dec 28 2012, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(MikeX @ Dec 28 2012, 08:33 AM) The rear speaker part can just leave it for the time being... I recon you should change the HU first to have a better output in sound before you add another amp. Oh Thanks for replying! So, Headunit do make huge differences for the sound output? It costs a bomb for the latest clarion.. almost reaching 3k.. Btw, Using the head unit build in amp for the time being? 50w for the rear? or all speaker use the head unit amp first cause it has got 4 channel?After HU, then maybe you can consider adding amp of which a monoblock should work nice for the sub. With the new monoblock, your current amp can fully utilised for the focal component set. |
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Dec 28 2012, 02:52 PM
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Change HU 1st,
really make a different. Amp... later.. |
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Dec 28 2012, 03:08 PM
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Dec 28 2012, 03:10 PM
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Dec 28 2012, 03:12 PM
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W7 la
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Dec 28 2012, 03:22 PM
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Yea munak if u bass head just get a w7
But w6 should be enuff lolz |
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Dec 28 2012, 05:19 PM
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Dec 28 2012, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Dec 28 2012, 05:19 PM) munak should get w7, then make you jealous. I would not be jealous heheTo TS, changing HU does produce different output... But your 3K sound like you are going for double-din? Because I'm not that much of a bass lover hehe I just like the bass to be there Lolz But munak really should get a w7 Btw ts changing hu will get u better sound Btw 3k should be clarion hxd2??? This post has been edited by ezmeer94: Dec 28 2012, 05:33 PM |
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Dec 28 2012, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Dec 28 2012, 05:32 PM) I would not be jealous hehe Please don't be sarcastic. TS is aiming for nice double din with GPS feature.Because I'm not that much of a bass lover hehe I just like the bass to be there Lolz But munak really should get a w7 Btw ts changing hu will get u better sound Btw 3k should be clarion hxd2??? |
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Dec 28 2012, 05:59 PM
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Dec 28 2012, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Dec 28 2012, 05:19 PM) munak should get w7, then make you jealous. They intro me latest Clarion NX502A.. which looks gooding but expensive.. lol~ To TS, changing HU does produce different output... But your 3K sound like you are going for double-din? Added on December 28, 2012, 9:01 pm QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Dec 28 2012, 05:32 PM) I would not be jealous hehe They intro me latest Clarion NX502A.. which looks gooding but expensive.. lol~ Because I'm not that much of a bass lover hehe I just like the bass to be there Lolz But munak really should get a w7 Btw ts changing hu will get u better sound Btw 3k should be clarion hxd2??? This post has been edited by InnKeong: Dec 28 2012, 09:01 PM |
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Jan 2 2013, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(InnKeong @ Dec 28 2012, 02:37 PM) Oh Thanks for replying! So, Headunit do make huge differences for the sound output? It costs a bomb for the latest clarion.. almost reaching 3k.. Btw, Using the head unit build in amp for the time being? 50w for the rear? or all speaker use the head unit amp first cause it has got 4 channel? If you got RM3k budget for HU, i would recommend u go for Pionner P80RS (less than RM2k) or Pioneer P99RS model lor. One time change and no need change in future again. Added on January 2, 2013, 1:58 pmIf you are into SQ setup, no point getting a 2-din unit as the sound is not as good as 1-din player. This post has been edited by MikeX: Jan 2 2013, 01:58 PM |
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Jan 2 2013, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(InnKeong @ Dec 28 2012, 03:08 AM) Hello all sifus, currently Im new in ICE and I just went for a Focal 100 KRS and a Focal Ibus 2.1 sub.. Im currently using the Ibus to channel the power to my front speaker which is 55w.. Considering to add a good amp since the shop people told me my focal speaker can support up to 100w and 55w is not sufficient for it to perform nicely. After that I heard from other people that 55w is sufficient and wont make much different compare to an 100w amp. Im comfused right now as I wanted to change rear speaker too and shop people intro to change head unit too as it can make big differences in the music as for the 24bit and alot more clearer music when played, they proposed clarion multimedia head unit.. Im thinking if Im changing head unit and the amp really make no much differences i might as well use the head unit built in amp 50w for my rear and nonid for an additional amp cause it cost a bomb too! lol.. Feel wasted if I put another amp since the underseat sub got build in 2 channel 55w and the head unit 50w x 4.. For sifus info im driving myvi 1.5 SE.. How should I do? if u got a budget of 3k, get a headunit. a dvd unit will have same quality as a single din normal unit...or slightly better. for 3k, u should consider my pioneer 8450 offer. it offer you the best sound and features in it's class. Howie's pioneer offer |
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Jan 2 2013, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Jan 2 2013, 05:46 PM) if u got a budget of 3k, get a headunit. a dvd unit will have same quality as a single din normal unit...or slightly better. Yes it's very goodfor 3k, u should consider my pioneer 8450 offer. it offer you the best sound and features in it's class. Howie's pioneer offer U can even have time alignment I just found out just now when stuck in traffic jam |
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Jan 2 2013, 07:54 PM
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Jan 2 2013, 08:30 PM
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yes it's the trick from pioneer to give u TA feel, but if u tested the real TA, u will disable the SCC at all time
Added on January 2, 2013, 8:31 pmfor oem system it wont work, on most stock car...u need at least a component change with proper install and correct tweeter placement to works too..... This post has been edited by howiechoo: Jan 2 2013, 08:31 PM |
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Jan 2 2013, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(InnKeong @ Dec 28 2012, 03:08 AM) Hello all sifus, currently Im new in ICE and I just went for a Focal 100 KRS and a Focal Ibus 2.1 sub.. Im currently using the Ibus to channel the power to my front speaker which is 55w.. Considering to add a good amp since the shop people told me my focal speaker can support up to 100w and 55w is not sufficient for it to perform nicely. After that I heard from other people that 55w is sufficient and wont make much different compare to an 100w amp. Im comfused right now as I wanted to change rear speaker too and shop people intro to change head unit too as it can make big differences in the music as for the 24bit and alot more clearer music when played, they proposed clarion multimedia head unit.. Im thinking if Im changing head unit and the amp really make no much differences i might as well use the head unit built in amp 50w for my rear and nonid for an additional amp cause it cost a bomb too! lol.. Feel wasted if I put another amp since the underseat sub got build in 2 channel 55w and the head unit 50w x 4.. For sifus info im driving myvi 1.5 SE.. How should I do? Just a general guide, if a speaker is rated at 100w rms/continuous power handling, then best to drive it using power amp minimum also 100w rms, can even go slightly higher up to around 120w rms. So you need to check the specs of your speaker and decide accordingly.FYI also the 50wx4 in any HU is just max peak power rating. The actual continuous power is just around 20w rms or even slightly less. But true that changing the HU will give much better quality than std HU. I suggest you get one that produce at least 4V output voltage with separate channel output for your sub, of course with the corresponding x-over control. When choosing the power also better to get one which has gain control for more than 4V so can be matched with the HU output voltage. |
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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Jan 2 2013, 08:30 PM) yes it's the trick from pioneer to give u TA feel, but if u tested the real TA, u will disable the SCC at all time Haha yes if I have sound processor I would never touch that stuff again hehe Added on January 2, 2013, 8:31 pmfor oem system it wont work, on most stock car...u need at least a component change with proper install and correct tweeter placement to works too..... Discovered it accidentally lolzz Lucky for the tweeter pod hehe |
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Jan 2 2013, 09:33 PM
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Dun wait lo, go to buy 1 processor put in.
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Jan 2 2013, 09:36 PM
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so you are the myvi with philips drl? sorry out of topic |
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Jan 3 2013, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(Sh@rty 5 @ Jan 2 2013, 10:17 PM) Yeap, Kekeke... gonna visit you soon for Crystal Vision and Diamond Vision Philips bulb kekeke.. If you do sell higher end amp, HU, speaker.. Do PM me.. Intended to get from other dealer coz felt like abit kena 'tiok' at the current shop service provider. Added on January 3, 2013, 12:07 am QUOTE(howiechoo @ Jan 2 2013, 05:46 PM) if u got a budget of 3k, get a headunit. a dvd unit will have same quality as a single din normal unit...or slightly better. Thanks for your offer.. Can tell me the differences between this 2 unit? Your pioneer and Clarion NX502?for 3k, u should consider my pioneer 8450 offer. it offer you the best sound and features in it's class. Howie's pioneer offer This post has been edited by InnKeong: Jan 3 2013, 12:07 AM |
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QUOTE(InnKeong @ Jan 3 2013, 12:04 AM) Yeap, Kekeke... gonna visit you soon for Crystal Vision and Diamond Vision Philips bulb kekeke.. If you do sell higher end amp, HU, speaker.. Do PM me.. Intended to get from other dealer coz felt like abit kena 'tiok' at the current shop service provider. Added on January 3, 2013, 12:07 am Thanks for your offer.. Can tell me the differences between this 2 unit? Your pioneer and Clarion NX502? haha just uploaded the cv and dv photo at our fb |
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