When applying for aeroplane license, it can only be category A or category C. So we know that they won't ask about airframe in the engines exams right? Then the rotorcraft license is category A&C. So with your experience, can you tell me a little bit about how the DCA evaluate the category A&C candidates?

Wait a minute. Are you saying that we can opt to sit for the EASA license instead of the DCA's? But still, we can convert the EASA license right?

Well not exactly, why don't you try explain it to me then?

So i was right in saying that we can convert the EASA license to DCA's LWTR. Meaning that DCA recognizes the EASA license to be used in Malaysia but the catch is to sit for our Malaysian air legislation paper.

Thanks for clarifying that for me.

With the use of fly-by-wire systems nowadays, I believe the importance of avionics has increased tremendously for the past 20 years.

@ Lestat

How long have you been with MHS? And how long have you had your license? If you don't mind my asking.

stressed out in miat luorenxi? luls

It seems like this thread has become about MIAT and the MIAT thread has become about LAE.

Well for one thing, the people who decide whether you're an LAE or not is the competent authority DCA and not MIAT. MIAT is just where they train the aviation workforce in general, the mechanics, technicians, and ultimately cultured some potential LAEs. POTENTIAL LAEs. Not guaranteed LAEs right after they graduated MIAT.

Being an LAE might sounds appealing as it is but believe me when say it is not easy, it will be hard, and that's the truth. I know a person who took the exams with DCA for 22 times (yes, 22 times!) before they finally handed him the license. Most people would have already given up after one or two failed attempts. And even if you do become one, it's going to be a very tough job.

You gotta have a really strong heart if you want to get involve in this business. Yes, the pay is good. But with great salary comes great responsibility. So you have to ask yourself, are you really up for it? Will you have the strength to see it thru to the end? From enrolling in a training school to becoming a type-rated LAE? If you think you do then by all means go for it. Aviation is an interesting field and i encourage you all to be a part of it.

lol good.

I would prefer to say the truth rather than telling some fairy tale crap. So that you guys will know what to expect and be ready for it.

I’ve been told that the old diplomas; Diploma in Aircraft Maintenance Technology (Avionics), Diploma in Aircraft Maintenance Technology (Composite), Diploma in aircraft Maintenance Technology (Manufacturing), followed the FAA standards and used block system where you study continuously for a couple of subjects in the first block, later have the final exams for the subjects and then you continue with the second block with actually no break or semester break whatsoever. This was applied when MIAT was first established back in 2001 and there were only those 3 diplomas available. Right now tho, I’m not sure if they still follow the same concept as before for the old diplomas or they have changed it a little. Truth be told, I don’t quite understand it myself.

While the new diplomas; Diploma of Engineering Technology in Aeroplane Maintenance, Diploma of Engineering Technology in Helicopter Maintenance, Diploma of Engineering Technology in Avionics Maintenance, using semester system (2 sem in a year, 5-6 months in a sem, have sem breaks), you will be learning subjects that follow closely with the EASA standards.

I do not know anything that happened to MIAT when it goes under UniKL or it losing its DCA approval AO/00023/DCAM. But MIAT did get the approval (back?) from DCA, ATO/001/2008. Also, MIAT got the 2008 Frost & Sullivan Asia Pacific Aerospace & Defense Awards for Aviation Workforce Development Organization of the Year. >>>Link

I think you can start filling your application form after the SPM/STPM results came out. Did you know you can get the application form at the nearest MARA office? If you’re going for the July intake, you can start sending your application in April, and then they’ll call you for the interview in May.

Yea, i'm guessing that is what MIAT aiming for.



When you go for the interview, firstly there will be some IQ test that you have to do. After that's done, you will go in for a one-on-one interview where the interviewer will ask some questions about yourself, about aviation in general, what kind of airlines do we have, what aircraft manufacturers are there, have u ever been with an aircraft or did something related to aviation/aircraft, how interested you are in aviation etc, something like that. Nothing too serious or technical.

To my understanding, I don't think any EASA programs/courses/training need to be approved by DCA as EASA is already one of the major aviation governing body in the world and DCA Malaysia already recognizes the EASA license to be used in this country.

Meaning, if someone has an EASA license and want to work in Malaysia, all they have to do is go to DCA and apply for a conversion to Malaysian license where the DCA will have them sit for the Malaysian air legislation paper which they have to pass.

As Kabadi84 put it,
This post has been edited by hirari: Nov 14 2008, 10:18 PM

According to the Part-66 – Certifying Staff, Annex III of IR Maintenance Regulation 2042/2003; the experience requirements an applicant for an aircraft maintenance license for category B2 (avionics) and subcategories B1.1 (aeroplane turbine) and B1.3 (helicopter turbine), shall have acquired;

(i) five years of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft if the applicant has no previous relevant technical training; or

(ii) three years of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft and completion of training considered relevant by the competent authority as a skilled worker, in a technical trade; or

(iii) two years of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft and completion of a Part -147 approved basic training course.



Eventho BCAR was much adopted for our MCAR 1996, MCAR is the law of the land that is still in-effect in this country. And not to forget there is the ICAO guidelines that MCAR still follows closely today, and the JAA in the case of EASA. I think the only thing from the European that DCA and most of the MROs and air operators in this country follow right now is the JARs (JAR-145, JAR-OPS).

This post has been edited by hirari: Nov 15 2008, 08:24 AM

Yes, most probably. since there is no actual Part-147 ATO in this country.

Read my post a couple of pages back about DCA approval of MIAT.

And may i suggest you try go thru this thread to get the rough idea on how the LWTR exams going to be. I'm pretty sure it has been much discussed in here.

In any diploma/degree course that you're going to take in MIAT, one semester (usually 6 months) will be allocated for the students to do OJT. Just like any other diploma/degree courses in any other universities where you will go for practical/industrial training for one semester before you graduate. I think it will be covered by the tuition fees.




I see. You did say that you're 21? If you don't mind me asking, where did you study before this? Or, are you still studying right now?

It's not that easy for someone who does not have prior training and/or experience in aircraft maintenance to get the LWTR.

Let say that you go to an approved school (MIAT, APR, etc) where you'll have to finish a 3 to 4-year course, you still need to have at least 1-2 years of experience working with a/c or at least until you have completed your work schedule before you can even apply to the DCA to sit for LWTR exam.

Whereas for someone who did not went to any approved school, he will need a minimum of 5-6 years working experience with a/c to go for the exam.



p.s. a/c = aircraft

You don’t necessarily need a license to work. They still need a lot of mechanics and technicians that only require you to have a certificate or diploma. Of course, you can’t just sit around waiting for job offers after you graduated MIAT. You have to go out there and secure a job so that you can complete your work schedule in time and go for the license.

You already have a diploma so it would be pointless for you to join MIAT and take another diploma unless you want to continue your studies for a degree there. Then again, a degree course alone will take 4 years. As for the APR, i don't think i can have a say on that since i'm not that familiar with their training course. Maybe amvasierra can clarify things for you on that front.

As for my previous post about the 1-2 years working experience after graduation, it seems it is only applicable to MIAT. I apologize for any confusion that you may have.