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alvinsim_cy
post Dec 22 2006, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(mr_ashraf @ Dec 22 2006, 12:49 AM)
best way with proper taining to become LAE is MAS. TAME (training aircraft maint engineer) program. is a 5 years program but now it called AMT (follow EASA syllabus). afor AMT program, after 2 years they will evaluate u and if not satisfied u will demoted to mechanic. also 5 years program. correct me if iam wrong.

either quiting your program... i have no idea.
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so this means even if i wanna b an LAE...i hav to b a TAME first...then when i b'come a LAME....i'll go n further my studies to b'come an LAE??? hmm.gif

edit : so means rite...if my results failing all the way in the 2 years of the TAME programme...dey tak puas wif my result...dey cn kick me into b'comin a mechanic not a LAME??? shocking.gif whoa....this is strict dude blink.gif

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post Dec 23 2006, 12:45 AM

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Refering to this career path that i obtained from APR's website:
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I'll need to have a diploma/degree in aeronautical in order to undergo the TAME program.
Currently the option to pursue that diploma/degree is to go to MIAT and take the 'DIPLOMA IN AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE AND MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY' course, which takes 3.5yrs plus OJT. Fees of RM7500/year, which means about RM27,000 for the entire course.
After having that diploma, undergo the TAME program at APR with the fees of RM60,000 for 3yrs.
And then directly go for the DCA LWTR exam?
After getting the LWTR, how long more to go before i can sit exam for LAME?
As i work with LWTR, what kind of salary range am i looking at?
What other diploma/degree is recognized to undergo the TAME program? Any other diploma in other engineering fields?

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post Dec 24 2006, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(prancingHORSE @ Dec 23 2006, 12:45 AM)
Refering to this career path that i obtained from APR's website:
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I'll need to have a diploma/degree in aeronautical in order to undergo the TAME program.
Currently the option to pursue that diploma/degree is to go to MIAT and take the 'DIPLOMA IN AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE AND MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY' course, which takes 3.5yrs plus OJT. Fees of RM7500/year, which means about RM27,000 for the entire course.
After having that diploma, undergo the TAME program at APR with the fees of RM60,000 for 3yrs.
And then directly go for the DCA LWTR exam?
After getting the LWTR,  how long more to go before i can sit exam for LAME?
As i work with LWTR, what kind of salary range am i looking at?
What other diploma/degree is recognized to undergo the TAME program? Any other diploma in other engineering fields?
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no need to go to APR.. didnt approve by DCA, no facility, no proper place, workshop??? ader keerr???
wasting your money.
a fresh SPM also can enter TAME
AN says u must have 4 years experience before u can sit for LWTR.


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post Dec 25 2006, 12:06 AM

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Very true although, no DCA approval required for any training school (unless you want to be approved and recognize as such). As long as you have complied with AN and Section L requirements, anyone can sit for the exam.

Mind you, APR is run by an ex-DCA surveyor.

QUOTE(mr_ashraf @ Dec 24 2006, 09:48 PM)
no need to go to APR.. didnt approve by DCA, no facility, no proper place, workshop??? ader keerr???
wasting your money.
a fresh SPM also can enter TAME
AN says u must have 4 years experience  before u can sit for LWTR.
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post Dec 25 2006, 12:15 AM

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I think there's a confusion here in terms of acronyms.

If you go through what we call an apprenticeship training ( about 5 years ) and at the end of the 5th year you are going to be established as a Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer, then you are in that first five years, designated as TAME ( Trainee Aircraft Maintenance Engineer, now redesignated AMT- sounds like Savvy gearbox) Actually this is true if you're training in MAS. AA call their trainees as ET ( Engineering Trainees )

LAE ( Licenced Aircraft Engineer ) is just short to LAME. LAME can be a mouthful or rather sounded 'lame'... no pun intended.. tongue.gif

In summary in order for you to be a Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer, from scratch ( out of school ) minimum required is 5 year.. (there are exceptions, please read the threads..)

QUOTE(alvinsim_cy @ Dec 22 2006, 09:35 PM)
so this means even if i wanna b an LAE...i hav to b a TAME first...then when i b'come a LAME....i'll go n further my studies to b'come an LAE???  hmm.gif

edit : so means rite...if my results failing all the way in the 2 years of the TAME programme...dey tak puas wif my result...dey cn kick me into b'comin a mechanic not a LAME??? shocking.gif  whoa....this is strict dude  blink.gif
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post Dec 25 2006, 12:19 AM

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I'd say the minimum would be RM4K and depends on your trade coverage, you're looking about RM7k average. More than that start looking at middle east, however do get at least 5 years of working experience as an engineer. Otherwise they wont pay you that much. Our southern neighbour pay quite well too.. biggrin.gif



QUOTE(mr_ashraf @ Dec 22 2006, 11:57 AM)
salary ka?? between rm5k to 50k.. depend.. it hardly to say how much..
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post Dec 25 2006, 12:25 AM

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CAIP is an older version of CAAIP which is frankly 'better' book to read if you want to sit for your LWTR. No you can't download them. It's given to CAA's licence holders. Get yourself to the technical library ( MAS) and .. ( you know what to do lah.) or talk to any engineer who is willing to lend you his copy... good luck! smile.gif

QUOTE(karichio @ Dec 20 2006, 10:09 PM)
hi guys, im looking for caip to study, anyone has any idea where i can download or buy?
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post Dec 25 2006, 12:28 AM

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The initial approval has lapsed. Therefore only the earlier batch was accepted by DCA. Current LAN approved 'syllabus' does not comply with DCA's AN and Section L requirements....


QUOTE(ezi23 @ Dec 19 2006, 12:53 AM)
is it true miat is approve by dca? i heard old batch is ok, but nowadays miat is under LAN and DCA has a problem with that..is it true?
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post Dec 25 2006, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(mr_ashraf @ Dec 22 2006, 12:49 AM)
best way with proper taining to become LAE is MAS. TAME (training aircraft maint engineer) program. is a 5 years program but now it called AMT (follow EASA syllabus). afor AMT program, after 2 years they will evaluate u and if not satisfied u will demoted to mechanic. also 5 years program. correct me if iam wrong.

either quiting your program... i have no idea.
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nop...cant quit la..already have a contract...they will become a mechanic

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post Dec 26 2006, 12:38 AM

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from what i read, for mas training(now amt), need at least dip. for AA, can strait after spm. for apr tame also need dip, but apr has another option which required to survive by yourself(learn level 1, get experience, continue level 2, get another experience then take the exam).

miat n tafe college offer a dip in this field.but i don't know how it goes..

correct me if i'm wrong..
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post Dec 26 2006, 12:59 AM

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can someone pleeease tell me all the possible methods of becoming a LAME?
i'll state a few first:

1) Joining MAS in their TAME program (but currently i heard they're not recruiting any more , is that true?)
- 5 years program

2)Joining APR
3)Joining MIAT
4)Joining TAFE College (how long?)
5)Joining AirAsia (pls provide more detials on this)

anymore ways to become a LAME?
which should method should i take?

thanks in advance, really wanna become a LAME, planning to quit my Mechatronics course since it won't be much of use.
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post Dec 26 2006, 06:47 PM

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one thing to let all know MIAT is only for BUMIPUTRA.
best thing is enter MAS training program, bcoz u can learn alot there.


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post Dec 26 2006, 08:37 PM

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@XP750: 1. join mas app. 2. join aa app. 3. join miat (if mas and aa dont accept you..)...... there always chance to enter either join contract staff or become a cleaner first... ;p
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QUOTE(ahaw @ Dec 26 2006, 08:37 PM)
@XP750: 1. join mas app. 2. join aa app. 3. join miat (if mas and aa dont accept you..)...... there always chance to enter either join contract staff or become a cleaner first... ;p
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thanks for the guide, u really helped me a lot!! seriously thank you!!
i think i'll try airasia since MAS is currently full..or are they?
may i know wats the requirement for Airasia n how long is the course?
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post Dec 26 2006, 11:33 PM

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MAS currently just took new recruitment last two months for AMT batch. 2nd Batch of AMT.

Regarding the TAME programme, yes, it's 5 years duration approximately. It can be later or earlier. Depends on how you progress. For MAS, their target, first 3 and the half year, trainees should have their LWTR license. The 1 and the half year left is for the type training although the type course will be conducted during the basic training. As for Electrical and Instrument batch, they might need longer duration as they have longer courses.

Basic pay for MAS newly establish LAME is just roughly RM2.5k. Others depend on your license allowance. But for 737-400 type LAE, rough figure would be around rm5k with airframe and powerplant type excluding overtime. Although you have LWTR license, you'll still consider as apprentice or trainee until you get your type rating.
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post Dec 28 2006, 12:24 PM

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nice info skptc..
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post Dec 28 2006, 09:21 PM

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hello everyone just got back from my dca exam huh penat woo.... btw why dca still use such jurasic question the question paper is from 1995 ..the paper lready yellow and they still using it ..are they to busy to bother bout us ...

p/s: waaaa nice got people intresting welcome welcome to our world
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post Dec 29 2006, 12:52 AM

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haha we all love airplanes...wat to do...
guess i'll just dig up more info from AA then,
i think that's my only choice
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elo kabadi...just back from exam? your batch exam? how you're doing? jurassic age paper ya..hahaah
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post Dec 31 2006, 12:34 AM

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does anyone here got caip ?

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