i believed that the whole team must help in defend. even most managers require their players to track down & defend. Mostly mourinho will bench a player.

yes..and why we still playing torres..he really sucks at defending..cuz he cant even hold the ball..but to be fair that his style of play..even persie not holding the ball for long..backtrack is vital no doubt about it..hazard..mata and oscar can backtrack well..probably..hazard is the best among them..but there always free players that roam the pitch without any responsibility to defend..for us now..torres..ronaldo for madrid..atletico all their striker not regular in defending..persie for united..that all a fast paced player..that what i see marin can bring to the team..pace and dribble..

This post has been edited by Ichighost: Dec 27 2012, 12:13 PM

dunno y some of you guys blames torres for.
Yesterday game Norwich play very well in defending.
they keep a very close eye on Torres.

Some of my opinion.

Luiz have been awesome with his deadly pass. he also did well control at the back there.
especially the passing to cole and mata just that the final part is lacking.

Mikel still made some bad passing mistake.

on January we are going to miss lots of physical play.
Moses been playing lots of good energy play there. very essential there.
Missing mikel will make a huge hole on the DM areas. though Luiz fits in there very well.
but we need backup there. good to see Rafa willing to play our youth.

what we need on January.
Striker, DM and CB.

how bout loan back Marin to BREMEN n take back De Bruyne....hehe

Marin still need to work hard to fit the BPL physical game his that type of winger that good in crossing ball n running without marker

MARIN is not playing because he is behind the order of MATA, HAZARD, OSCAR, MOSES, MARIN maybe even PIAZON ahead of him. The last outing he have, i think he was out shine by overlapping mate AZPI in attack and PIAZON last game again VILLA seem to be a lot positive. His pace and dribble are kinda limit by his physical. He is fast, but not extremely fast, so there is no way he can rightly outrun a BPL defender, as a simply pull he will lose his balance and speed. That is why MOSES are the preferable choice, a direct dribbler running at the defender with the body strength to bring the ball forward. You dont see MATA being a good counter attacker, because once he saw a defender infront he will stop and look for pass or dribble side way because he know he cant out muscle him and this slowdown the counter attack, For RAFA direct pass counter attack tactic, MOSES and HAZARD are the more suitable player.

But MARIN could be more useful against parking the bus team for his trickery dribbling to maneuver in tight space. At the moment i see MARIN as a lesser MATA and i prefer not to see MATA-OSCAR-MARIN combo, as it seem like too 1 dimensional and mostly will result to us camping outside the box dribbling the ball while forcing opponent to park the bus and we unable to break thru. HAZARD or MOSES direct penetration give us an edge which i think at least 1 should be in the team.

This post has been edited by chitchat: Dec 27 2012, 01:32 PM

haha~~ seems many chelsea fans will pointed at Torres when he couldnt score in a game...

ST position we need at least 2 new-comer (1with experience & 1young) , if got extra money sure buy a new DM (i wish fellaini come)
when Mikel gone on January, Luiz + Lampard/Ramires will fit this 2 DM place , I thinnk Terry will return soon maybe mid of January...so Terry + Ivanovic + Cahill just good to rotate

now we just concentrate on grabbing each game's full 3 points...others ppl result~~~ keep aside..haha....... KTBFFH!!!!

the expectation on him is just too high.
I dun expect him to score every games.

the current amount of total goals RVP is just 16goals
if you compare to Torres with 14goals.
even Aguero have only 8goals.

This post has been edited by yinchet: Dec 27 2012, 01:29 PM

With STUR leaving, i believe a striker definitely will be coming but i prefer MEGA buy else a CHEAP buy. MEGA buy means someone that rightly put TORRES to the bench, else whoever come will just warming on the bench sulk at TORRES preferential treatment. So is either FALCAO for the MEGA or DEMBA BA for the CHEAP buy.

DM, with LUIZ able to play there i think we are fine, dont need a buy on JAN window with limited choice and inflated price. I also think DM is a good position to nurture youth player, as long the player have good work rate, the DM position will affect the team performance less.

CB definitely no need for a buy, we have 4 first eleven quality CB so promoting a youth will be good enough.

why would they want to kick lampard out?

i'm sad.

hahha...totally agreed with u

i think the major was the MEDIA that always focus on Torres with his price-Tag ...... so spotlight always shone at him when team couldnt win/lose/draw also not scoring goals

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Added on December 27, 2012, 1:47 pmme damn sad~~~~ is time for the old guard to bow out,,,,,,, i think Lampard will wait until end season contract ends.... Roman will not giving Lampard the ideal contract... I just wish Lampard can be a happy footballer wherever he decide to go~~ i will always support him

This post has been edited by lamp88: Dec 27 2012, 01:47 PM

okay..another misunderstanding again..arrgghhh...

i said this just to prove the points that not everyone need to defend..

on a keyboard battle with hnr2802..

i'm not bashing torres..

Torres is the best defender from corner kcik... said so by Benitez.. wakakaka!

heard this somewhere

Mikel.. only able to do side pass and back pass ... if u r lucky u ll see him do 1 or 2 forward pass in a game.. luiz do a better job.

I still dont like those pass pass pass among cech and defender, because most of the time cech ll kick the ball back to opposition.

i duno y mikel cant pass forward, played so conservative zzz.
well yesterday torres didnt get much of a chance .
mata goal was O_O

and i duno why they didnt start lampard

rest needed for stronger opponents next match..

I think he dun have good vision.
What so amazing about luiz is he is able to spot a player is loosing the defender marking.
for example passing to cole nearly created a goal and he also spotted mata running out of marking.
2 of the chances were not able to finish if not it would be a awesome play by luiz.
he easily dominate the whole DM areas.

Luiz was MOM yesterday sum it up all.

These abilities is what we missing off during RDM. and I'm shouting about getting a DM to do these jobs during chelsea slump.

Something I dun like about mikel passing. sometimes he just use too much strength which result harder on first touch.
it not just once I saw it a few times.
were lucky norwich were not able to make use of its.

pairing luiz and makalele would made the finest pivot.

[quote=kiien_kyan,Dec 27 2012, 02:44 PM]heard this somewhere

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lol..... google translate from somewhere~~~wakaka

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Added on December 27, 2012, 4:23 pm[quote=yinchet,Dec 27 2012, 04:02 PM]
I think he dun have good vision.
What so amazing about luiz is he is able to spot a player is loosing the defender marking.
for example passing to cole nearly created a goal and he also spotted mata running out of marking.
2 of the chances were not able to finish if not it would be a awesome play by luiz.
he easily dominate the whole DM areas.

Luiz was MOM yesterday sum it up all.

These abilities is what we missing off during RDM. and I'm shouting about getting a DM to do these jobs during chelsea slump.

Something I dun like about mikel passing. sometimes he just use too much strength which result harder on first touch.
it not just once I saw it a few times.
were lucky norwich were not able to make use of its.

pairing luiz and makalele would made the finest pivot.
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there will be no more same makelele u can found in football match nowadays... luiz + lampard can play until end season n sure will win us something at the end

This post has been edited by lamp88: Dec 27 2012, 04:23 PM

i dont think we need any defender and midfielder
we only need a striker

our main focus on this January transfer , must be for a striker position

david villa lol , spaniard quartet torres mata azpi villa + brazil quartet oscar rami luiz piazon lulul

they sure can find goals haha