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post Mar 15 2006, 12:59 AM, updated 20y ago

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settled!Thanks for all the contribution.

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post Mar 15 2006, 01:21 AM

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i dont think the card originally comes with a converter btw, if this helps at all

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post Mar 15 2006, 01:26 AM

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should ask storm either the card come with converter. anyway, i think he already mention there are no converter and maybe he accidently say yes without notive the word converter.
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post Mar 15 2006, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(KilJim @ Mar 15 2006, 01:21 AM)
i dont think the card originally comes with a converter btw, if this helps at all
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but then.. tat guy has confirmed with kingmaker before the transaction done..

this is the problem... if u dun have it.. then just tell the buyer..
dun just say yes yes yes... but then after transaction done, some items are missing... this show the seller onli wan to sell the item off asap....


p/s: kingmaker not reali mentioned clearly in the conversation before transaction...
"Gniwri Leon: so all bundled cd's+card+all cables/converter/manual+coolviva/orri heatsink??"

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post Mar 15 2006, 01:35 AM

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kingmaker_20, you should check the items first before you leave....
anything missing you can ask him. (if it is COD)

agree with others, check with storm, see is there any accessory provided by the graphic card manufacture.


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Gniwri Leon: so all bundled cd's+card+all cables/converter/manual+coolviva/orri heatsink??
neophyteheaven: yup
neophyteheaven: correect


this is the problem...
kingmaker_20 double confirm with him and he/she say correct!! doh.gif

better check with the storm...
see did he give the true statement or not...

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post Mar 15 2006, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(LarharT @ Mar 15 2006, 01:26 AM)
should ask storm either the card come with converter. anyway, i think he already mention there are no converter and maybe he accidently say yes without notive the word converter.
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I'll pm storm88.

How can he accidently mention that?
If i sell something to you but not perfect as i promised,how?
All the mentioned bundled item is important for me if im going to sell off and get new one.
Acctually nothing accidently here,you mention those accesories so that i will buy it.
So if every seller din't provide the item with what they had promissed,isit ok?I guess no.
This is more into "cheat/lie to sell the item on the spot"

Latest he open a [WTS] thread after agree to refund:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=263607

And he close the thread by mentioning "FFK CASE"
I ffk you or you ffk me?? shakehead.gif
I had been very polite with you and waiting for months,and this is what you reply me?

The first thing,why he agree with the accesories that mentioned by me?
You got the point?
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post Mar 15 2006, 01:44 AM

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RM410 for 6600gt + stock cooler+cm coolviva+video out cable I think the deal is not bad. If for me I dun need the driver CD(outdated) and manuals. I think when you mentioned :so all bundled cd's+card+all cables/converter/manual+coolviva/orri heatsink??
Then he said "yup correct". His responce could just be he will give you all those come to him in original pakage when he bought the card. Ya know not all brands gc come bundle the same items. Some got converter some don't. Some got free games some don't. Maybe if you said "so all bundled cd's+card+all cables / converter / manual +coolviva /orri heatsink+RM100 KFC voucher?? He also answer you "Yup correct" lah. ppl something blur blurly made mistakes.
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post Mar 15 2006, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Mar 15 2006, 01:35 AM)
kingmaker_20, you should check the items first before you leave....
anything missing you can ask him. (if it is COD)

agree with others, check with storm, see is there any accessory provided by the graphic card manufacture.
this is the problem...
kingmaker_20 double confirm with him and he/she say correct!!  doh.gif

better check with the storm...
see did he give the true statement or not...
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I dont mind if he tell the truth,what accesories he include with the GPU.
If i know only those accesories will be provided.i will certainly won't buy from him.

The first thing he was not honnest.

No point asking storm88,because those accesories was agreed by him and not storm88.
So Neo is the one dishonnest and intended to cheat as long the card must be sold.
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post Mar 15 2006, 01:51 AM

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pity you,.....

but what to do,... money is in his bank now..... sad.gif

Never mind,.... next time he try to sell something spoil his threat smile.gif
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post Mar 15 2006, 01:55 AM

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Can ask him buy you a DVI converter and molex connector and send all those item maa.. Including driver CDs..
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post Mar 15 2006, 01:56 AM

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yea
seeseng got a point man. btw kingmaker is the card running fine? if it is i think its not really a big problem man. chill out.
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post Mar 15 2006, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(wong638 @ Mar 15 2006, 01:51 AM)
pity you,.....

but what to do,... money is in his bank now.....  sad.gif

Never mind,.... next time he try to sell something spoil his threat  smile.gif
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wahahaha.. u r reali good.. so u r the one always goto spoil ppl threads?


by the way... i think seller should take the responsibility...
since he answered "yup.. correct"...

no point asking storm88 for tat... the problem is from the seller...
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post Mar 15 2006, 01:58 AM

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King correct me if i'm wrong. The main point in this case is in these 3 lines?
Gniwri Leon: so all bundled cd's+card+all cables/converter/manual+coolviva/orri heatsink??
neophyteheaven: yup
neophyteheaven: correect


Btw the card is AGP or PCI-E?

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post Mar 15 2006, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(JONSETAn @ Mar 15 2006, 01:55 AM)
Can ask him buy you a DVI converter and molex connector and send all those item maa.. Including driver CDs..
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common its ony rm400 invovle here. already foc cool viva kawan. masih mau DVI convertor ++ molex convertor? omg.
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post Mar 15 2006, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Mar 15 2006, 01:44 AM)
RM410 for 6600gt + stock cooler+cm coolviva+video out cable I think the deal is not bad. If for me I dun need the driver CD(outdated) and manuals. I think when you mentioned :so all bundled cd's+card+all cables/converter/manual+coolviva/orri heatsink??
Then he said "yup correct". His responce could just be he will give you all those come to him in original pakage when he bought the card. Ya know not all brands gc come bundle the same items. Some got converter some don't. Some got free games some don't. Maybe if you said "so all bundled cd's+card+all cables / converter / manual +coolviva /orri heatsink+RM100 KFC voucher??  He also answer you "Yup correct" lah. ppl something blur blurly made mistakes.
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I don't think its a good deal with only that accesories included while the confirmed accesories are diffrent.For me important thing is the orriginal accesories that include when we purchase from retailer.For you it might be satisfied but not for me and maybe not for others too.
Nothing blur here.I even confirm with him twice and he said YESS!That's insane,he should check everything before confirm with a YES.Even he could mention it before post it,if he is a honnest seller.

seeseng@
If you order char kueay teow and the waiter just serve you without fish balls,prawns,vege,only white kuey teow with ketchup served.You will ate it without asking him anything?and again it might satisfy you but not for others.
Don't bring in kfc or other issue which not related to this case.

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 15 2006, 02:00 AM)
common its ony rm400 invovle here. already foc cool viva kawan. masih mau DVI convertor ++ molex convertor? omg.
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Yea seems that Rm400 is a good deal for 6600GT + coolviva.. I experienced this kind of thing when buying graphic card here a long time ago. The driver we can download from website, the games can buy from pasar malam sweat.gif , DVI, Y-molex connector and Video cable can buy from shop..
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post Mar 15 2006, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(kingmaker_20 @ Mar 15 2006, 02:02 AM)
I don't think its a good deal with only that accesories included while the confirmed accesories are diffrent.For me important thing is the orriginal accesories that include when we purchase from retailer.For you it might be satisfied but not for me and maybe not for others too.
Nothing blur here.I even confirm with him twice and he said YESS!That's insane,he should check everything before confirm with a YES.Even he could mention it before post it,if he is a honnest seller.

seeseng@
If you order char kueay teow and the waiter just serve you without fish balls,prawns,vege,only white kuey teow with ketchup served.You will ate it without asking him anything?and again it might satisfy you but not for others.
Don't bring in kfc or other issue which not related to this case.
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yes kingmaker...
if he provided the full items as provided by the manufacturer, then it is ok eventhough he did mention about the converter or others things. we can't force him and said, even the box doesn't provide the item and you did mention to me, you must buy for me, this will be too much...and our intention was on the graphics card with bundle items in full as original package provided...
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QUOTE(kingmaker_20 @ Mar 15 2006, 02:02 AM)
I don't think its a good deal with only that accesories included while the confirmed accesories are diffrent.For me important thing is the orriginal accesories that include when we purchase from retailer.For you it might be satisfied but not for me and maybe not for others too.
Nothing blur here.I even confirm with him twice and he said YESS!That's insane,he should check everything before confirm with a YES.Even he could mention it before post it,if he is a honnest seller.

seeseng@
If you order char kueay teow and the waiter just serve you without fish balls,prawns,vege,only white kuey teow with ketchup served.You will ate it without asking him anything?and again it might satisfy you but not for others.
Don't bring in kfc or other issue which not related to this case.
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If you order char kueay teow and the waiter just serve you without fish balls,prawns,vege,only white kuey teow with ketchup served.You will ate it without asking him anything?<--- dis thg

bro, but rite now its serving u with white kuey teow with ketchup, prawns and vege. just without fish ball. i think its ok kua.

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post Mar 15 2006, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(JONSETAn @ Mar 15 2006, 02:08 AM)
Yea seems that Rm400 is a good deal for 6600GT + coolviva.. I experienced this kind of thing when buying graphic card here a long time ago. The driver we can download from website, the games can buy from pasar malam sweat.gif , DVI, Y-molex connector and Video cable can buy from shop..
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but if it does bundle/come along with the graphic card, seller shall take the responsibility...
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 15 2006, 02:09 AM)
If you order char kueay teow and the waiter just serve you without fish balls,prawns,vege,only white kuey teow with ketchup served.You will ate it without asking him anything?<--- dis thg

bro, but rite now its serving u with white kuey teow with ketchup, prawns and vege. just without fish ball. i think its ok kua.
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oh, this statement i do not agree...
unless you agreed...
else i will cancel or ask for more items to be added...

usually the hawker will tell you, "ok, today we are out of this items..bla bla bla" one!!
before you buy it.

eventhough they didn't tell you, and the item should be there but finished,
they will add more other item to replace the item they don't have...

rugi lah if the hawker didn't add one of the items...
this is call cheating...

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post Mar 15 2006, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(wong638 @ Mar 15 2006, 01:51 AM)
pity you,.....

but what to do,... money is in his bank now.....  sad.gif

Never mind,.... next time he try to sell something spoil his threat  smile.gif
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Thanks man for carring,but that's not a good way to solve a problem. smile.gif


QUOTE(JONSETAn @ Mar 15 2006, 01:55 AM)
Can ask him buy you a DVI converter and molex connector and send all those item maa.. Including driver CDs..
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Nop,no more mistake.I've give him time and wasted my time.


QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 15 2006, 01:56 AM)
yea
seeseng got a point man. btw kingmaker is the card running fine? if it is i think its not really a big problem man. chill out.
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It is a big problem eventhough the card working fine.If i want to sell of the card again,how much it will fetch with only those accesories?


QUOTE(seeseng @ Mar 15 2006, 01:58 AM)
King correct me if i'm wrong. The main point in this case is in these 3 lines?
Gniwri Leon: so all bundled cd's+card+all cables/converter/manual+coolviva/orri heatsink??
neophyteheaven: yup
neophyteheaven: correect
Btw the card is AGP or PCI-E?
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Yes that's the main point.
Its a PCI-E card.


QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 15 2006, 02:00 AM)
common its ony rm400 invovle here. already foc cool viva kawan. masih mau DVI convertor ++ molex convertor? omg.
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Coolviva is not important if im selling off the card in future,the orriginal and his word YES for the bundled accesories is the main thing.
Coolviva cost you RM40 for new one,and its a big thing?If im selling this card with those accesories provided by Neo,will you buy it?If yes kindly pm me for fast deal.

Why i bother open this thread,because he agreed with the bundled item that i've mention.I never know what is included with Colorful 6600GT,so for makesure i ask him twice and he say YESS!so the 2x YESS means all the item i mentioned will be included.Then only i Agree to buy it.If he say NO only this and this included,i will certainly cancel the deal.

In the first place he LIE/CHEAT.Why so?
That's the main problem.I got cheated.
Some of you might say its ok with those thing.But again its not ok for me or others.
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post Mar 15 2006, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Mar 15 2006, 02:11 AM)
but if it does bundle/come along with the graphic card, seller shall take the responsibility...
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I believe on his promise and YESS that the item i mention in the conversation included.That's why i proceed with that deal.
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post Mar 15 2006, 02:32 AM

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I think it's miscommunication problem la. Let him come to explain later lor.

so all bundled cd's+card+all cables/converter/manual+coolviva/orri heatsink??

so all bundled cd's+card+all cables+converter+manual+coolviva+orri heatsink??

When you asked him that you meant the second 1. All + together. For him. Maybe. Just maybe he think the " / " mean "or". Well in normal english the / mostly mean "or". Just my 2cents. Dun flame me sweat.gif

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post Mar 15 2006, 02:33 AM

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kingmaker_20, discussion, no offence ya...

eventhough he gave the full items and want to ask for refund?
erm, this is abit too much lah, unless you sell it to another party...

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Mar 15 2006, 02:33 AM)
kingmaker_20, discussion, no offence ya...

eventhough he gave the full items and want to ask for refund?
erm, this is abit too much lah, unless you sell it to another party...
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Humm.You guys still don't understand.I bought ths card because of the card itself and the bundled item!!Too much?nah im asking for what he had mention to provide,i am the victim here,even if i sell off this card i'll loose much.Just because i believe his word.Or Ne can refund me some $$ for some accesories he didn't provide, i requested that before but he don't want to take any responsbility.
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I understand that you feel being cheated la. But I think not his origin intension to cheat you la. Risking screw up few years forum reputation for just DVI converter and bundle games. He's not so stupid gua... He sure know if cheat you for so few item you sure complain or black list him mah. Anyway I got a friend finding 2nd hand good performance gc. Will ask him tomorrow night he want or not your gc. RM400 rite?
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Bro, i dunt think he's lyin....

Coz i have the exact same card bought from bulk also, and Yes, whut he gave u was the exact FULL BOX received by me also, minus the Cool Viva. Just Card+HS+Driver+MAnual+BOX no Converter+Cable+Games.

For the price of rm400 + CM Cool Viva i think u have a steal there....
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QUOTE(kingmaker_20 @ Mar 15 2006, 02:02 AM)
I don't think its a good deal with only that accesories included while the confirmed accesories are diffrent.For me important thing is the orriginal accesories that include when we purchase from retailer.For you it might be satisfied but not for me and maybe not for others too.

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Hmmm.. isint that what you are getting now? except of the driver CD.
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QUOTE(seeseng @ Mar 15 2006, 03:15 AM)
I understand that you feel being cheated la. But I think not his origin intension to cheat you la. Risking screw up few years forum reputation for just DVI converter and bundle games. He's not so stupid gua... He sure know if cheat you for so few item you sure complain or black list him mah. Anyway I got a friend finding 2nd hand good performance gc. Will ask him tomorrow night he want or not your gc. RM400 rite?
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Hey,you still don't understand.Its not only about DVI converter and games,try to understand the main point---->HE lied to me that all the budled item will be included,if he has no intention to cheat why he didn't correct the item will be included before deal?and after the deal he don't want take any responsiblity?if i sell something which i say this items will be included with the item you buy,later after you receive it,the item i should provide and told you before was not there.Sure u'll complain and if you complain,of course i'll try to refund back as im the one said to you that all the items will be included.

Yes RM400.Thank you.



QUOTE(aLpHa da eViLz @ Mar 15 2006, 09:03 AM)
Bro, i dunt think he's lyin....

Coz i have the exact same card bought from bulk also, and Yes, whut he gave u was the exact FULL BOX received by me also, minus the Cool Viva. Just Card+HS+Driver+MAnual+BOX no Converter+Cable+Games.

For the price of rm400 + CM Cool Viva i think u have a steal there....
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Ok fine,he's not lyin but why he did mention YESS twice when i confirm with him?i know that's the item included with the card,but i buy his card because he said all the item i mention will be included.If he tells that only the item he got when purchase it will be provided,its fine.---->He tell the truth.


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