Toyota 2.4 was it removed from Malaysians market

So serious? Which model?

Sound like no protein-sure, for existing buyer.

This post has been edited by kimsim: Mar 14 2013, 06:19 PM

Now suddenly they are selling 2.5 only, there was so much complaint on 2.4,

Haha I knew it since day 1 toyota is crap haha

Another deadly real-life small-overlap collision.
Toyota Altis crashed into back of highway maintenance lorry.





IIHS small-overlap crash test explained:

I think if i'm going to crash (eg unable to stop in time), i'll try to crash with more car body surface as possible to absorb the impact. The small overlap crash seems to focus on the weakest point of the car frame, less structure surface, will high force, the result is high pressure and high damage.

In theory yes. But what if you think you can avoid an accident altogether? What will the other car driver do? Probably try to evade. Can you really aim for the other car dead on, when it is time to do so? Also when there is still time to steer the car consciously into a certain direction, then can't you avoid the accident?

I'm afraid it is not that easy.

Btw. the Citroen DS (from 1955) was designed to redirect the car in an accident, so it doesn't hook on like the Camry does. It should behave similar to the Volvo in the test... That was 1955.

instinctively, most drivers would try to steer away from an impact, not steer into it.
(that is where ESC comes in)

emm.... right, not that easy to use logic to overcome the instinct...
anyway, personally i not quite like to steer into other lane to avoid accident as it might cause motorcyclist or other car in trouble, and prone to lost control. I might just keep the steering straight and brake hard...

braking hard is the last resort (reduce as much speed as possible before impact)
but its usually better to avoid collision in the first place.
just make sure you know incoming and beside you no other vehicles (you sure know, if you're an alert driver before the situation happens)

Alan, you can safely steer away from dangerous provided your vehicle come equipped with Electronic Stability Control (ESC/VSC/ESP/DSC).
If safety is your main concern, don't buy car with "tin kosong" specifications.

Imagine below situation happen to you (or your love one)...
The next episodes of your life will be depend on ESC/VSC/ESP/DSC.



Toyota Camry (referring to below pictures) skidded and crashed due to no safety features like ESC/VSC/ESP/DSC.
This small-overlap collision not so deadly. Probably crashed into crumple object at lower speed.







Photos credit to:

wah.. so many vcs believers here, it helps but it wont guarantee the vehicle under control, even r35 also can ramp into tree.

just for example from the video, a bike coming fast behind on the right, the sudden sway of the car cause the motorist airborned and dead, i think i'll rather keeping straight to dent my car (which has good crash test rating) and claim insurance.. just bring up a point la, i don't force anybody to agree with the point...

Why the 2.5 is not equipped with below for the price we pay and this makes the car with no proper safety for RM181K I can buy alternative car with the below features.

Electronic Stability Control
Electronic Stability Control (ESC) helps drivers to avoid crashes by reducing the danger of skidding, or losing control as a result of over-steering. ESC becomes active when a driver loses control of their car. It uses computer controlled technology to apply individual brakes and help bring the car safely back on track, without the danger of fish-tailing.

Why do I need it?
Australian research shows that ESC reduces the risk of:

● Single car crashes by 25%
● Single 4WD crashes by 51%
● Single car crashes in which the driver was injured by 28%
● Single 4WD crashes in which the driver was injured by 66%*

No other active safety device has such potential to reduce single car crashes