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alg7_munif
post Dec 31 2012, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(aragongon @ Dec 31 2012, 01:11 AM)
12V battery is used to start the engine in conventional car. It is used once per trip normally. In PC, the engine is started multiple time with EV on and off. So my questions are:

1. In PC, 12V battery tear and wear more than those conventional car?

2. How often 12V battery need to be changed?

3. If PC 144V battery full or half, but 12V battery is drained, can we still start the car? or can run it in EV mode only?


Added on December 31, 2012, 1:21 am

Cheapest PC in Singapore is SGD 138,988 (= RM347,470).

For comparison, latest Mercedes E200 in Malaysia sold at the price of RM363,060 (extra RM15,950 only); 86 in Singapore sold at the price SGD 185,988 (extra SGD47,000 only).

Are the Singaporean PC owner crazy or what?  blink.gif
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PC engine is not started by a normal 12V starter, instead the engine is started by one of the EV motors through the power split device:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/hybrid-car7.htm
http://eahart.com/prius/psd/
alg7_munif
post Feb 13 2013, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(kasumen @ Feb 8 2013, 12:13 AM)
Seems that few of you think that pc still has better FC compare to conventional car during jam. I have not done such analysis before but somehow I feel that pc is not suitable in bad traffic area like KL city as the fuel will be consumed to charge the battery.
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Why PC can save more in a traffic jam:
1) When you arrive at a traffic jam from a higher speed, you will slow down and PC will capture some of the energy back into the battery. Normally the battery will be more than half full upon reaching the jam.

2) Depending on how long is the traffic jam, sometimes the battery charge is enough to get you crawling through the traffic without starting the engine. This will contribute a major fuel saving compared to leaving the engine idle.

3) Even when the jam is longer, the car will only start its engine and runs it at the most efficient speed to charge the battery and after a while it will stop again. This is much more efficient than an idling engine doing nothing but powering the air cond compressor for a long time.

Your air cond at home only needs 1hp to cool the entire room but letting your engine idle to produce more power than neccessary is a waste of energy. You would think that the extra power is not that much but if you release the brakes, you know that the engine is actually producing enough power to move the car at a crawling speed without even pressing the throttle.

The PC on the other hand only starts the engine to generate the required electricity. After that it will shut off again. The stored energy is then used to power the aircond and it will only be used to move the car when required. Compared this to an idling engine that is producing enough power for the aircond and to move the car all the time while in a traffic jam.

 

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