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jorineb
post Mar 14 2006, 01:26 PM, updated 20y ago

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Forumer you are complaining against : livon79
Item being sold/bought : Kingston 512MB 533Mhz DDR2
Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=55&t=258310
Date of transaction : kena ffk, so there's no transaction done
Amount of money involved : RM140
Details of the complaint : Win my auction on 11/03, but then dun wanna COD. SMS never reply. PM never reply. Hope mod will consider to put him in MO. Waste my phone credit and time, also wasted serious buyer time.
Any extra details : 0192728765 - Steven

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He signed on today and still dun wanna reply my pm nor sms.

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Some forumers who experienced ffk case by livon79:
kev da man - graphic card
emmeir - hdd
wtm0325 - ??
Austin - ffk RM1100 worth of goods
max_cjs0101 -processor

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post Mar 14 2006, 01:33 PM

3 ngien yiu 3 ngien :(
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alamak!!
at least give a call to cancel before the COD.... sweat.gif
how long you have been waiting there? sweat.gif

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post Mar 14 2006, 01:37 PM

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Threadstarter is my gf. She's been waiting there whole day yesterday. But luckily, she work there. If not, I would have skinned him vmad.gif
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post Mar 14 2006, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Mar 14 2006, 01:37 PM)
Threadstarter is my gf. She's been waiting there whole day yesterday. But luckily, she work there. If not, I would have skinned him vmad.gif
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wow, thank goodness...
else we will keep waiting there till night... doh.gif
it is good to make a call if planning to cancel the order... sweat.gif
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post Mar 14 2006, 02:12 PM

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same thing here la.....
pm me ask me to ook graphic card then went silent. i don't even have his phonenumber and lucikly i have a few more buyers.
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post Mar 14 2006, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Mar 14 2006, 01:37 PM)
Threadstarter is my gf. She's been waiting there whole day yesterday. But luckily, she work there. If not, I would have skinned him vmad.gif
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skinned him then pour some honey onto his flesh and unleash some madagascar croach onto it or some "wong mama" tongue.gif
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post Mar 14 2006, 06:44 PM

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livon79 have many ffk case. he also ffk my hdd. never reply pm. next time, deal his sell item and ffk him too..
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post Mar 14 2006, 07:00 PM

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come on him again ? doh.gif

he got many leceh case adi why still clean and not in the blacklist or MO list ?

last time gets into trouble wif some forumer then create new account shakehead.gif
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post Mar 14 2006, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(emmeir @ Mar 14 2006, 06:44 PM)
livon79 have many ffk case. he also ffk my hdd. never reply pm. next time, deal his sell item and ffk him too..
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He is selling items here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=262554&hl=

You may try to order from him and ffk him lol. tongue.gif
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post Mar 14 2006, 08:52 PM


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been ffk by him once, lucky i got buyer tht time..
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post Mar 14 2006, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(broken_string @ Mar 14 2006, 07:00 PM)
come on him again ? doh.gif

he got many leceh case adi why still clean and not in the blacklist or MO list ?

last time gets into trouble wif some forumer then create new account shakehead.gif
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that is how things work here. sometimes its just troublesome to ban someone's account tongue.gif
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post Mar 14 2006, 09:12 PM

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Besides jorineb, for those who mentioned that they got ffk by livon70, can you guys provide more details to the case?

Another thing is, I understand some may have some issues with livon79, however, please wait for a few days to give livon79 sometime to come forth to explain before requesting him to be listed.

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post Mar 14 2006, 09:17 PM

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wah... suiteng is a female... jorineb her gf? =.=" interesting,, hehehe

neway... yea.. livon79 still dealing here... can we do something bout it? dun ffk him lar...
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Mar 14 2006, 09:17 PM)
wah... suiteng is a female... jorineb her gf? =.=" interesting,, hehehe

neway... yea.. livon79 still dealing here... can we do something bout it? dun ffk him lar...
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Everything is possible, she cannot be my gf meh? tongue.gif
I'll get jorineb to list out the names of the ppl kena ffk by livon79 before.
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post Mar 14 2006, 11:48 PM

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post Mar 15 2006, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Mar 14 2006, 09:12 PM)
Besides jorineb, for those who mentioned that they got ffk by livon70, can you guys provide more details to the case?

Another thing is, I understand some may have some issues with livon79, however, please wait for a few days to give livon79 sometime to come forth to explain before requesting him to be listed.

Thank you smile.gif
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this is not the first time as i know

and always give crap reasons when ppl ask tongue.gif
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post Mar 15 2006, 05:20 PM

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post Mar 15 2006, 06:12 PM

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dunno lah, maybe he got his reason, but he ffk me RM1100 worth of goodies and last minute never reply my phone call.
So I hav to cancel a trip to KL on yesterday. sad.gif

I am not the first time deal with him, so I giv him chance lor. smile.gif

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post Mar 15 2006, 06:16 PM

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actually my case is considered as non-ffk case....hehe......he promised me tat cod with me at 12.45pm+ or something liddat....forgot oledi....i waited there for many hours oledi.......finally he came oledi.....haihz....me scare to deal with him oledi....
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QUOTE(jon89 @ Mar 15 2006, 06:16 PM)
actually my case is considered as non-ffk case....hehe......he promised me tat cod with me at 12.45pm+ or something liddat....forgot oledi....i waited there for many hours oledi.......finally he came oledi.....haihz....me scare to deal with him oledi....
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how's he look?
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QUOTE(Austin @ Mar 15 2006, 06:12 PM)
dunno lah, maybe he got his reason, but he ffk me RM1100 worth of goodies and last minute never reply my phone call.
So I hav to cancel a trip to KL on yesterday. sad.gif

I am not the first time deal with him, so I giv him chance lor.  smile.gif
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Wah... lucky you haven't make your trip yet. Let's see livon79 got anything to say or not. Always login but never bother to come here defend himself.
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QUOTE(emmeir @ Mar 15 2006, 09:44 PM)
how's he look?
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How he looks like ah? Dunno how to describe oh....... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jon89 @ Mar 16 2006, 08:16 PM)
How he looks like ah? Dunno how to describe oh....... sweat.gif
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Like thief lor.Cheat so many people and enjoy the money until forget to pay. sweat.gif
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post Mar 16 2006, 09:36 PM

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livon79 3rd chace to defend himself.. but he didn't visit this thread...

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post Mar 17 2006, 10:26 AM

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Consider this the 4th time

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Livon oso offered me a price but when i pm him he didn't reply oso causing me to lose buyers.. mad.gif Details here

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=260796
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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Mar 17 2006, 01:39 PM)
Livon oso offered me a price but when i pm him he didn't reply oso causing me to lose buyers.. mad.gif Details here

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=260796
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0.O kawan ur case memang tak ader kena mengena. he already stated, for fast deal. u 2 dayz after he wrote dat ony pm him. sure no news.

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i was supposed to meet livon79 on Friday 1pm @KL Sentral to COD my 17" LCD monitor tat he ordered previously, i reach there around 12sumting, while waiting for him i went to hav my lunch, den i giv him a call but he told me he cant make it at 1sumting coz sumting urgent, so i said 2.30, he sez ok, so i just wait n wait til 2.30, by 2.30 i giv him another call. he told me he need 15min to reach as he's going to bank to deposit sum money, so i just waited, after waiting another hour,3sumting n i cant wait anymore, i giv him a call + sms, nobody pickup + sms not delivered, i've decided rush n meet d nex client coz i was in a hurry, i got 9deals tat day,still b4 i left i gav him a sms,but not delivered,til nite time 11.30pm he told me he got sumting urgent so he cant make it, n asked me 2 meet him d nex time i go KL Sentral

i've deal wif tis guy a couple of times before, eventhough he's alwiz late for my deal still he manage to make it, he never MIA-ed, moreover imagine who will MIA if d person already paid deposit for sumting?

he gave me a 320gb harddisk as deposit for my 17" Brand New LCD, if he MIA he gonna lose alot, so to u ppl out there, hopefully u can giv him a chance + sumtime to explain.... thumbup.gif
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sorry 各位
我是livon79生意上的拍檔
因為匯款上出現了一些問題
所以先會遲了跟大家成交
最快應該會在一星期內匯款將到大馬
你們的貨的我們是有需要和有興趣的
但如果你們的貨是已經有人要我只好說聲抱歉
因為是我匯款上出錯另到大家拖延了
如果未出售的貨
我們都會要的
到時livon79會跟大家聯絡
所以希望大家原諒
如果有任何問題可以聯絡我的
email=ivychan15@hotmail.com
因為我是hk人英文不太好
所以希望大家可以用中文對話
再係到跟大家先說聲對不住拖誤了大家的時間



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QUOTE(樂天小怡 @ Mar 18 2006, 10:53 AM)
sorry 各位
我是livon79生意上的拍檔
因為匯款上出現了一些問題
所以先會遲了跟大家成交
最快應該會在一星期內匯款將到大馬
你們的貨的我們是有需要和有興趣的
但如果你們的貨是已經有人要我只好說聲抱歉
因為是我匯款上出錯另到大家拖延了
如果未出售的貨
我們都會要的
到時livon79會跟大家聯絡
所以希望大家原諒
如果有任何問題可以聯絡我的
email=ivychan15@hotmail.com
因為我是hk人英文不太好
所以希望大家可以用中文對話
再係到跟大家先說聲對不住拖誤了大家的時間
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i think i saw ur nickname in tinha forum..

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I guess it could be merely a misunderstanding, according to the girl livon is probably having cash flow problem cos there was a delay in TT Transfer payment from his debtor ( I guess ) and so next week livon will try to contact all the seller to complete the deal. smile.gif
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Why must find someone come to explain? Why can't livon79 come here to explain by himself since he's so free to login to LYN?

As you can see... livon79 login today again.
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If he don't wanna be in sh*t list then he should come and explain by himself instead of finding some chick from other forum to explain. Duhhhh..
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我不是已經解釋原因嗎?
而且livon79因為還要處理我地其他業務所以在論壇出現時間已經較少
如果你要等他回覆你
應該都要等好耐下時間
我係為在唔希望大家繼續誤會落去
而且我作為佢既合作伙伴我幫佢先同大家解釋下先姐
我都係兩個論壇既管理員
都好明白大家會員既心態
所以先跟大家做一個交代先
做生意係好講個承信我地都好明白
所以有今次既問題發生我都好抱歉
因為問題出在我身上
不過如果你仲係不滿我都無辦法
只好講聲抱歉
而LNT FORUM既管理員要對LIVON79如何處分我都無辦法
只好接受
不過可以比我睇到你地LNT論壇既處事作風囉
作為HK人既我覺得你地好處處逼人咁姐
大家都可以放心
LIVON79一定會回應大家只係時間上問題
因為現在的他實在好忙
再一次跟大家說聲抱歉

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Yea....why dun we giv him some time? Last time he kept giving me empty promises....but in the end he finally done cod with me (but waited a few hours there at ktm station)......
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I'll leave it to the MOD to decide then.
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QUOTE(樂天小怡 @ Mar 18 2006, 08:17 PM)
我不是已經解釋原因嗎?
而且livon79因為還要處理我地其他業務所以在論壇出現時間已經較少
如果你要等他回覆你
應該都要等好耐下時間
我係為在唔希望大家繼續誤會落去
而且我作為佢既合作伙伴我幫佢先同大家解釋下先姐
我都係兩個論壇既管理員
都好明白大家會員既心態
所以先跟大家做一個交代先
做生意係好講個承信我地都好明白
所以有今次既問題發生我都好抱歉
因為問題出在我身上
不過如果你仲係不滿我都無辦法
只好講聲抱歉
而LNT FORUM既管理員要對LIVON79如何處分我都無辦法
只好接受
不過可以比我睇到你地LNT論壇既處事作風囉
作為HK人既我覺得你地好處處逼人咁姐
大家都可以放心
LIVON79一定會回應大家只係時間上問題
因為現在的他實在好忙
再一次跟大家說聲抱歉
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is she is from Hong kong...any admin can proof the ip if from hong kong ip???
if yes...then we will wait... smile.gif
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Mar 16 2006, 09:20 PM)
Like thief lor.Cheat so many people and enjoy the money until forget to pay. sweat.gif
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please becareful with ur words...
did i CHEAT/CON any money here?(from my memory..i just owing some 1 1 piece of ram for RMA)
still got few forumer also owing me money...for my disc..
and i bought 3 units MP3 from BROT...he refuse to warranty ..since the items still under warranty...


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QUOTE(livon79 @ Mar 19 2006, 12:35 AM)
please becareful with ur words...
did i CHEAT/CON any money here?(from my memory..i just owing some 1 1 piece of ram for RMA)
still got few forumer also owing me money...for my disc..
and i bought 3 units MP3 from BROT...he refuse to warranty ..since the items still under warranty...
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Please say something relevant to this topic.
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QUOTE(livon79 @ Mar 19 2006, 12:35 AM)
please becareful with ur words...
did i CHEAT/CON any money here?(from my memory..i just owing some 1 1 piece of ram for RMA)
still got few forumer also owing me money...for my disc..
and i bought 3 units MP3 from BROT...he refuse to warranty ..since the items still under warranty...
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then what your point here?
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QUOTE(livon79 @ Mar 19 2006, 12:35 AM)
please becareful with ur words...
did i CHEAT/CON any money here?(from my memory..i just owing some 1 1 piece of ram for RMA)
still got few forumer also owing me money...for my disc..
and i bought 3 units MP3 from BROT...he refuse to warranty ..since the items still under warranty...
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Finally u come here but out off topic.Don't be loser here. icon_idea.gif

Please beware with ur promise.
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QUOTE(livon79 @ Mar 19 2006, 12:35 AM)
please becareful with ur words...
did i CHEAT/CON any money here?(from my memory..i just owing some 1 1 piece of ram for RMA)
still got few forumer also owing me money...for my disc..
and i bought 3 units MP3 from BROT...he refuse to warranty ..since the items still under warranty...
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sorry not mean to....
but u still owe me RM55 since Dec 05
i submit the streamyx to u and u promise me that i can get RM55 rebate once my streamyx is approved.....
my streamyx have been approved but still no sign of ur cash rebate....
sent PM but no reply.....
waiting for ur reply.....and hoping to receive asap
10x ya.......
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I just want to see his explaination, but he came up with some unfruitful comments. grumble.gif
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this guy seriously doesn't deserve to make deals in lyn at all
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1 week time to defend himself have just passed.... wonder what is the decision now?
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So, how's the status now? 1 week already pass. Have MOD decided to put livon79 into MO or just let him go again?
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kids with no money wanna play rig....sighz...

blacklist him straight
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15. livon79 - Irresponsible trader by not following through the end of the deals for a number of times. More information here - [Link]


Update: livon79 added to M.O. list.

Reason: It is very unethical for someone to settle on a trade and not following through it. Moreover, even after1 week of grace period, livon79 failed to turn in a proper reason (reporting in a topic and providing a reason is different). Lastly, any ethical trader would come forth himself to explain the situation with support from other members and NOT expect other members to come forth to explain and keeping himself distant from it.

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