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jchue73
post May 5 2008, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ May 5 2008, 03:42 PM)
Dunno about you guys lar but form factor (small) is more important to me since my wife is mainly using it to watch DVD niah. Low power and silence is more important for me.


Nice... smile.gif But the problem is it's only good for DVDs and probably 720p material. I think it'll choke with 1080p mkv stuff and Bluray/HDDVD.
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post May 5 2008, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 5 2008, 08:15 AM)
I intend to setup HTPC for HD with resolution 1920x1080. File play mostly TS, vob and blu ray. In this case, are the graphic card more important than the cpu, ram or the MB?
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Graphics card would not be so important when playing ts / mkv files because the are not hardware accelerated. They rely solely on raw CPU power. So CPU is important in his case. If you only play Bluray / HDDVD material, yes, graphics card is important.

But why worry? Just get a ATI 2400 Pro / XT or ATI 3450 and ýou're good to go for Bluray / HDDVD playback for HTPC purposes. If you plan to playback 1080p mkv files, be prepared to have a high end C2D or C2Q CPU in addition to the graphics card suggested above.
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post May 6 2008, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(kepco @ May 5 2008, 10:51 PM)
it depend on what player we use to play h.264/x.264 files (720p and 1080p included), there is no HA for VLC so C2D E6xxx series is prefer at bare minimum, but if using Media Portal or Media Player Classic, C2D E4xxx series should be fine due ot these player utilize HA.


The reason why some front end players can and cannot support HA is because some players are crappy and difficult to set up filters and some not. When the GPU does not support HA, whatever front end player is used would not make a difference.

Unless of course you have an ATI 2X00/3X00 series graphics card and your mkv files are encoded with newer level 4.1 x264 streams, you would not have HA for mkv playback. Period.

QUOTE(kepco @ May 5 2008, 10:51 PM)
to ozak: today PC component still doesn't ready for BD play back yet, for example, there is no hardware exist yet (rumour got lah) for video/audio stream on HDMI cable, the price paid for BD drive can get a lower end pc already. Today graphic card processing power are able to handle BD 1080p resolution just fine but there is no stable playing player yet.
Actually, you can get to stream 8 channel LPCM audio together with video via HDMI... Intel based G35 chipset (which apparently only Asus has made one) does this. But they are still at their infancy. Having said that, the Intel X3500 onboard video sucks with no HA. Which is why you need a beefy C2Q CPU on that Asus P5E-VM HDMI mobo. The other one that should do this is NVidia 8200/8300 mobo chipsets.


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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ May 5 2008, 04:26 PM)
Not too big with HD stuff but I did try out most of the 1080p stuff from MS's HD site. No frame drops from there.
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Not too sure what or how the 1080p files from MS's website are encoded... But if you play 1080p mkv containers encoded with x264 / AVC prior to level 4.1 profile (which most mkv files out there are), then you will have problems.


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QUOTE(mytech @ May 5 2008, 08:48 PM)
anyone tried mobo with 780G chipset ... is it (built-in GPU) powerful enough to play 1080p with AM2 X2 5000+ ?
plan to start funding for one HTPC with this mobo.....any comment?
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If you're just interested in 1080p playback from Bluray / HDDVD disc, it is enough.

However, 1080p playback from mkv files will not get HA because most mkv files generally are encoded prior to level 4.1 x264 ! Safest would be to go with a 780G chipset and a powerful Phenom CPU. But then again, there are many reports of 780G mobos out there not being able to support Phenoms... sad.gif

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post May 8 2008, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ May 6 2008, 07:39 PM)
HTPC no need too high end specs to work right? I mean, unless you want to play HD/ 1080i/p videos, an Intel Pentium DC should do fine, right?
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What are you planning to do with your HTPC if you're not going to play HD/1080i/p videos? blush.gif
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post May 8 2008, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(LExus65 @ May 7 2008, 05:52 PM)
now i'm still thinking get a IGP board like coming p45, or just settle with a x2 or evne phenom x4 and 3450, can use for folding too hehe............
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You should not be aiming for P45 but the G45 instead.
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post May 8 2008, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ May 8 2008, 12:24 AM)
not everyone so demanding mah.

people like me, DVD also good already.
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Yes, sadly I have lots of DVDs too. But mkv containers nowadays carry 1.5MBps DTS sound compared to DVDs which normally carry 448kbps or at most 768kbps. Video bitrate is also higher on DVDs.
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post Jun 26 2008, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(boonhoong @ Jun 22 2008, 08:57 PM)
The one Bluray drive I saw for PC was advertised at RM1299 shakehead.gif At that price, I might as well get PS3 whistling.gif
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I think the one you saw is a writer as well. Just a player alone is around RM 800++ if I'm not wrong.

Besides, there are lots of things a PC can do that a PS3 can't.


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QUOTE(westthen @ Jun 26 2008, 03:32 PM)
hey guys i'm planning to assemble an HTPC...how much would usually one cost...

can it be done anywhere in the region of 1k-1.5k?

i have lost touch on how much does those SFF casing cost now...any cheap ones? or decent priced ones?

besides that any motherboard that u guys can recommend? Last i read abt recommendation was the bio star TG690...
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1.5k is not enough unfortunately. The 690 chipset is old. Best is to get the AMD 780G or the Nvidia 8200 chipset.

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post Aug 2 2008, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(vey99 @ Aug 1 2008, 09:33 PM)
Samsung 32" (Wanna move up to 40" sony full hd)


Errr, if you want a full HD LCD TV, go with at least a 46" and above. Maybe a 42". With 40" size of TV, you won't see a difference playing 720p and 1080p material.

If you need 40", I'd suggest to invest in a HD Ready panel with 100Hz.

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