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TSALeUNe
post Dec 19 2012, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Dec 19 2012, 05:51 PM)
can u categories them according to their classes
just like top 10 DPS in lyn thread...
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Yes, good suggestion, i'll go that later tonight.
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post Dec 19 2012, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Dec 19 2012, 05:51 PM)
can u categories them according to their classes
just like top 10 DPS in lyn thread...
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 19 2012, 05:56 PM)
Yes, good suggestion, i'll go that later tonight.
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If you wanna do top DPS stuff, don't do it base on a boss kill. Do it base on unbuff DPS.

e.g: Using a sever is going to make u kill ghom faster am i right? Besides, stacking DPS is not that hard, there are players here who went for balance as well.

Just my two cents.

p.s: oh wait, read wrongly. Paiseh..

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post Dec 19 2012, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 19 2012, 05:56 PM)
Yes, good suggestion, i'll go that later tonight.
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really wanna do that? for me, it's ok to see all Barb in top killer... that will show how IMBA is HoTA Barb... and hopefully The Nerf Hammer will come soon. muahahaha~
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 19 2012, 06:01 PM)
really wanna do that? for me, it's ok to see all Barb in top killer... that will show how IMBA is HoTA Barb... and hopefully The Nerf Hammer will come soon. muahahaha~
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post Dec 19 2012, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 05:59 PM)
If you wanna do top DPS stuff, don't do it base on a boss kill. Do it base on unbuff DPS.

e.g: Using a sever is going to make u kill ghom faster am i right? Besides, stacking DPS is not that hard, there are players here who went for balance as well.

Just my two cents.
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Do it based on unbuffed DPS? Who play D3 with unbuffed DPS?
It doesn't reflect the actual game play.
This test is meant to show the real DPS in the game.
Basically i think we allow all players to use all sort of skills/gears they want (except gears swapping).
Of course, players can do the video with unbuffed DPS. No issues on that.

Sever doesn't give faster kill, unless the player can kill Ghom in one blow.

As for balance build, imo, if you can do Ghom MP10, you have got a decent + balance build.
Glass canon can't do Ghom, generally.
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post Dec 19 2012, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 19 2012, 06:01 PM)
really wanna do that? for me, it's ok to see all Barb in top killer... that will show how IMBA is HoTA Barb... and hopefully The Nerf Hammer will come soon. muahahaha~
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unlikely... bcos barb hota is so small radius compared to dh bolas or cm wiz for instance...

it's not fair to really compare with other class skills which are good in normal gameplay due to larger aoe.
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post Dec 19 2012, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 19 2012, 06:01 PM)
really wanna do that? for me, it's ok to see all Barb in top killer... that will show how IMBA is HoTA Barb... and hopefully The Nerf Hammer will come soon. muahahaha~
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I hope to see top killers from other class too.
Keep the video flowing in.

P/S I hope Blizz will buff WD in the next patch.


Added on December 19, 2012, 6:13 pm
QUOTE(wlcling @ Dec 19 2012, 06:09 PM)
unlikely... bcos barb hota is so small radius compared to dh bolas or cm wiz for instance...

it's not fair to really compare with other class skills which are good in normal gameplay due to larger aoe.
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Indeed. Bola can hit more with bigger radius.

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post Dec 19 2012, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 19 2012, 06:08 PM)
Do it based on unbuffed DPS? Who play D3 with unbuffed DPS?
It doesn't reflect the actual game play.
This test is meant to show the real DPS in the game.
Basically i think we allow all players to use all sort of skills/gears they want (except gears swapping).
Of course, players can do the video with unbuffed DPS. No issues on that.

Sever doesn't give faster kill, unless the player can kill Ghom in one blow.

As for balance build, imo, if you can do Ghom MP10, you have got a decent + balance build.
Glass canon can't do Ghom, generally.
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24% to demon? Hello? Is Ghom not a demon? LOL.

Who play D3 with unbuffed DPS? well diabloprogress ranks players according to that and other criteria as well.

Real game DPS? Sure, spamming HOTA reflects your real game DPS. I'll write to Jay Wilson to ask him to let me spam cluster arrows as well.

Yeah, 90percent players here can do Ghom MP10.

Here's a question for you. 21% to spike trap, 29% to elites, MoD and i don't see 1.5mil damage. The most i see is 1.2mil. Tell me again how is HOTA not broken??? Or the only thing that matters to you is real DPS in game??


Added on December 19, 2012, 6:25 pm
QUOTE(wlcling @ Dec 19 2012, 06:09 PM)
unlikely... bcos barb hota is so small radius compared to dh bolas or cm wiz for instance...

it's not fair to really compare with other class skills which are good in normal gameplay due to larger aoe.
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I don't get 1mil on my bola. So yeah..

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Take 2


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Monk 83k dps
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post Dec 19 2012, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 06:24 PM)
24% to demon? Hello? Is Ghom not a demon? LOL.

Who play D3 with unbuffed DPS? well diabloprogress ranks players according to that and other criteria as well.

Real game DPS? Sure, spamming HOTA reflects your real game DPS. I'll write to Jay Wilson to ask him to let me spam cluster arrows as well.

Yeah, 90percent players here can do Ghom MP10.

Here's a question for you. 21% to spike trap, 29% to elites, MoD and i don't see 1.5mil damage. The most i see is 1.2mil. Tell me again how is HOTA not broken??? Or the only thing that matters to you is real DPS in game??
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You can't have LS if you want a socket Sever.
So, if you want LS, you get lower damage.
I just sold my Sever few days ago. I don't see how Sever can give a faster kill.

diabloprogress can show you the stats. Those are "paper" stats.
But how fast you can kill or damage you can dish out is another story.

Yes, we see most players have balance build.

Yes, real DPS matters. I don't see why it isn't relevant in game.
HOTA is broken because you don't see 1.5 on screen? Hmm... odd one. I think you gotta ask Jay Wilson. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 19 2012, 06:25 PM)
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Thanks. I'll update tonight.

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 19 2012, 06:42 PM)
You can't have LS if you want a socket Sever.
So, if you want LS, you get lower damage.
I just sold my Sever few days ago. I don't see how Sever can give a faster kill.

diabloprogress can show you the stats.
But how fast you can kill or damage you can dish out is another story.

Yes, we see most players have balance build.

Yes, real DPS matters. I don't see why it isn't relevant in game.
HOTA is broken because you don't see 1.5 on screen? Hmm... odd one. I think you gotta ask Jay Wilson.  laugh.gif


Added on December 19, 2012, 6:43 pm
Thanks. I'll update tonight.
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Pretty much shows how u have not much idea of how the game is atm.

How can Sever not give a faster kill? 24% to demon at 1k DPS? Please, explain to me. I'm all ears.

Yeah how much damage you can dish out depends on the skills you have which atm is pretty unbalanced.

How is HOTA not broken? can you please explain? Infact, while you are at it, please explain how is barbs not broken?

Please ALeUNe, go brush up on your understanding.
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Err.. Ghom considered elite rite..?

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 06:24 PM)
24% to demon? Hello? Is Ghom not a demon? LOL.

Who play D3 with unbuffed DPS? well diabloprogress ranks players according to that and other criteria as well.

Real game DPS? Sure, spamming HOTA reflects your real game DPS. I'll write to Jay Wilson to ask him to let me spam cluster arrows as well.

Yeah, 90percent players here can do Ghom MP10.

Here's a question for you. 21% to spike trap, 29% to elites, MoD and i don't see 1.5mil damage. The most i see is 1.2mil. Tell me again how is HOTA not broken??? Or the only thing that matters to you is real DPS in game??


Added on December 19, 2012, 6:25 pm

I don't get 1mil on my bola. So yeah..
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I don't get 1 million crits on my barb either... so those guys who is clearing ghom under a minute has really good gear.

consider barb hota is only doing 400% dmg per attack. there are not much other dmg passive that can be spamed together...

on the other hand, a dh can be doing bolas and put 3 sentries for a lot of % dmg per second. unfortunately steady aim can't be used to solo ghom. bliz should give dh a new passive like 10% chance to hit for 1000% crit dmg
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Dec 19 2012, 07:21 PM)
I don't get 1 million crits on my barb either... so those guys who is clearing ghom under a minute has really good gear.

consider barb hota is only doing 400% dmg per attack. there are not much other dmg passive that can be spamed together...

on the other hand, a dh can be doing bolas and put 3 sentries for a lot of % dmg per second. unfortunately steady aim can't be used to solo ghom. bliz should give dh a new passive like 10% chance to hit for 1000% crit dmg
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That's not the point. I get 1.2m from echo blast. but yeah i have good gears.

DPS is DPS am i right? So, a 200k buffed barb out DPS-ing a 260k unbuff DH is not right man.

new passive? huh? man, if blizz is going to do smth, please buff WD first and nerf barbs. Sure i want more buffs from Blizz but now the class that needs a buff is WD.


Added on December 19, 2012, 7:31 pmbut forget it la, TS is a barb and he'll never admit barbs are OP.

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 06:48 PM)
Pretty much shows how u have not much idea of how the game is atm.

How can Sever not give a faster kill? 24% to demon at 1k DPS? Please, explain to me. I'm all ears.

Yeah how much damage you can dish out depends on the skills you have which atm is pretty unbalanced.

How is HOTA not broken? can you please explain?  Infact, while you are at it, please explain how is barbs not broken?

Please ALeUNe, go brush up on your understanding.
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You need LS, 1K DPS without socket aka CD is no good.
Without LS, just imagine you fight ghom with a 3% LS from you bow + without gloom.

There is an obvious imbalance... as far as I see, it is the Witch Doctor.
Not for other class for now.

Let Blizz fix WD first. laugh.gif


Added on December 19, 2012, 7:50 pm
QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 07:28 PM)
but forget it la, TS is a barb and he'll never admit barbs are OP.
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I play all class of heroes.
Well, WD is the weakest link.


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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 19 2012, 07:48 PM)
You need LS, 1K DPS without socket aka CD is no good.
Without LS, just imagine you fight ghom with a 3% LS from you bow + without gloom.

There is an obvious imbalance... as far as I see, it is the Witch Doctor.
Not for other class for now.

Let Blizz fix WD first.  laugh.gif


Added on December 19, 2012, 7:50 pm
I play all class of heroes.
Well, WD is the weakest link.
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Sure, u just won't admit barbs are broken. Cool..

The thing is, you can easily get LS other where right? hint: belt? passive? So, having no LS on the sever isn't really a deal breaker.

So we don't get LS cuz is just gonna handicap us even further. We play around gloom.

HOTA is a nice single target DPS. no doubt about it. Spamming HOTA is crazy enough. Spamming HOTA in berserker mode? LOL.

p.s: We all know WD is the weakest and monks have the WORST passive. But at least they excel in other areas. WD have good crowd control. Monks are good support if they choose to do so. Wiz? no idea. DH? good DPS char.

BARBS? Everything from every class.

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Not true about Monk passive, we have OP passive; even the name is OP: Pacifism: user posted image

While you are under a Stun, Freeze, Fear, or Charm effect, all damage taken is reduced by 75%.

It is OP because:

- Only ONE monster in the whole game has the ability to stun you, and that’s the Armaddon in Act 4.
- NO monster in the whole game has the charm ability, AT ALL.

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^^ wah i love this skill , wotb cant forever utilise
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 19 2012, 08:12 PM)
Not true about Monk passive, we have OP passive; even the name is OP: Pacifism: user posted image

While you are under a Stun, Freeze, Fear, or Charm effect, all damage taken is reduced by 75%.

It is OP because:

- Only ONE monster in the whole game has the ability to stun you, and that’s the Armaddon in Act 4.
- NO monster in the whole game has the charm ability, AT ALL.

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2 monster. Butcher stun also.

But then wafak with that passive biggrin.gif

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