QUOTE(lksing78 @ Dec 19 2012, 05:51 PM)
Yes, good suggestion, i'll go that later tonight.How fast can you kill?, Ghom @ MP10
How fast can you kill?, Ghom @ MP10
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Dec 19 2012, 05:56 PM
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Dec 19 2012, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Dec 19 2012, 05:51 PM) QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 19 2012, 05:56 PM) If you wanna do top DPS stuff, don't do it base on a boss kill. Do it base on unbuff DPS. e.g: Using a sever is going to make u kill ghom faster am i right? Besides, stacking DPS is not that hard, there are players here who went for balance as well. Just my two cents. p.s: oh wait, read wrongly. Paiseh.. This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 19 2012, 06:00 PM |
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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 05:59 PM) If you wanna do top DPS stuff, don't do it base on a boss kill. Do it base on unbuff DPS. Do it based on unbuffed DPS? Who play D3 with unbuffed DPS? e.g: Using a sever is going to make u kill ghom faster am i right? Besides, stacking DPS is not that hard, there are players here who went for balance as well. Just my two cents. It doesn't reflect the actual game play. This test is meant to show the real DPS in the game. Basically i think we allow all players to use all sort of skills/gears they want (except gears swapping). Of course, players can do the video with unbuffed DPS. No issues on that. Sever doesn't give faster kill, unless the player can kill Ghom in one blow. As for balance build, imo, if you can do Ghom MP10, you have got a decent + balance build. Glass canon can't do Ghom, generally. |
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 19 2012, 06:01 PM) really wanna do that? for me, it's ok to see all Barb in top killer... that will show how IMBA is HoTA Barb... and hopefully The Nerf Hammer will come soon. muahahaha~ unlikely... bcos barb hota is so small radius compared to dh bolas or cm wiz for instance...it's not fair to really compare with other class skills which are good in normal gameplay due to larger aoe. |
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Dec 19 2012, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 19 2012, 06:01 PM) really wanna do that? for me, it's ok to see all Barb in top killer... that will show how IMBA is HoTA Barb... and hopefully The Nerf Hammer will come soon. muahahaha~ I hope to see top killers from other class too. Keep the video flowing in. P/S I hope Blizz will buff WD in the next patch. Added on December 19, 2012, 6:13 pm QUOTE(wlcling @ Dec 19 2012, 06:09 PM) unlikely... bcos barb hota is so small radius compared to dh bolas or cm wiz for instance... Indeed. Bola can hit more with bigger radius.it's not fair to really compare with other class skills which are good in normal gameplay due to larger aoe. This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 19 2012, 06:13 PM |
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Dec 19 2012, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 19 2012, 06:08 PM) Do it based on unbuffed DPS? Who play D3 with unbuffed DPS? 24% to demon? Hello? Is Ghom not a demon? LOL.It doesn't reflect the actual game play. This test is meant to show the real DPS in the game. Basically i think we allow all players to use all sort of skills/gears they want (except gears swapping). Of course, players can do the video with unbuffed DPS. No issues on that. Sever doesn't give faster kill, unless the player can kill Ghom in one blow. As for balance build, imo, if you can do Ghom MP10, you have got a decent + balance build. Glass canon can't do Ghom, generally. Who play D3 with unbuffed DPS? well diabloprogress ranks players according to that and other criteria as well. Real game DPS? Sure, spamming HOTA reflects your real game DPS. I'll write to Jay Wilson to ask him to let me spam cluster arrows as well. Yeah, 90percent players here can do Ghom MP10. Here's a question for you. 21% to spike trap, 29% to elites, MoD and i don't see 1.5mil damage. The most i see is 1.2mil. Tell me again how is HOTA not broken??? Or the only thing that matters to you is real DPS in game?? Added on December 19, 2012, 6:25 pm QUOTE(wlcling @ Dec 19 2012, 06:09 PM) unlikely... bcos barb hota is so small radius compared to dh bolas or cm wiz for instance... I don't get 1mil on my bola. So yeah..it's not fair to really compare with other class skills which are good in normal gameplay due to larger aoe. This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 19 2012, 06:25 PM |
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Take 2
start: 0:08 End: 4:03 duration: 235 secs Monk 83k dps |
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Dec 19 2012, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 06:24 PM) 24% to demon? Hello? Is Ghom not a demon? LOL. You can't have LS if you want a socket Sever. Who play D3 with unbuffed DPS? well diabloprogress ranks players according to that and other criteria as well. Real game DPS? Sure, spamming HOTA reflects your real game DPS. I'll write to Jay Wilson to ask him to let me spam cluster arrows as well. Yeah, 90percent players here can do Ghom MP10. Here's a question for you. 21% to spike trap, 29% to elites, MoD and i don't see 1.5mil damage. The most i see is 1.2mil. Tell me again how is HOTA not broken??? Or the only thing that matters to you is real DPS in game?? So, if you want LS, you get lower damage. I just sold my Sever few days ago. I don't see how Sever can give a faster kill. diabloprogress can show you the stats. Those are "paper" stats. But how fast you can kill or damage you can dish out is another story. Yes, we see most players have balance build. Yes, real DPS matters. I don't see why it isn't relevant in game. HOTA is broken because you don't see 1.5 on screen? Hmm... odd one. I think you gotta ask Jay Wilson. Added on December 19, 2012, 6:43 pm QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 19 2012, 06:25 PM) Take 2 Thanks. I'll update tonight.» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « start: 0:08 End: 4:03 duration: 235 secs Monk 83k dps This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 19 2012, 06:46 PM |
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 19 2012, 06:42 PM) You can't have LS if you want a socket Sever. Pretty much shows how u have not much idea of how the game is atm.So, if you want LS, you get lower damage. I just sold my Sever few days ago. I don't see how Sever can give a faster kill. diabloprogress can show you the stats. But how fast you can kill or damage you can dish out is another story. Yes, we see most players have balance build. Yes, real DPS matters. I don't see why it isn't relevant in game. HOTA is broken because you don't see 1.5 on screen? Hmm... odd one. I think you gotta ask Jay Wilson. Added on December 19, 2012, 6:43 pm Thanks. I'll update tonight. How can Sever not give a faster kill? 24% to demon at 1k DPS? Please, explain to me. I'm all ears. Yeah how much damage you can dish out depends on the skills you have which atm is pretty unbalanced. How is HOTA not broken? can you please explain? Infact, while you are at it, please explain how is barbs not broken? Please ALeUNe, go brush up on your understanding. |
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Err.. Ghom considered elite rite..?
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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 06:24 PM) 24% to demon? Hello? Is Ghom not a demon? LOL. I don't get 1 million crits on my barb either... so those guys who is clearing ghom under a minute has really good gear.Who play D3 with unbuffed DPS? well diabloprogress ranks players according to that and other criteria as well. Real game DPS? Sure, spamming HOTA reflects your real game DPS. I'll write to Jay Wilson to ask him to let me spam cluster arrows as well. Yeah, 90percent players here can do Ghom MP10. Here's a question for you. 21% to spike trap, 29% to elites, MoD and i don't see 1.5mil damage. The most i see is 1.2mil. Tell me again how is HOTA not broken??? Or the only thing that matters to you is real DPS in game?? Added on December 19, 2012, 6:25 pm I don't get 1mil on my bola. So yeah.. consider barb hota is only doing 400% dmg per attack. there are not much other dmg passive that can be spamed together... on the other hand, a dh can be doing bolas and put 3 sentries for a lot of % dmg per second. unfortunately steady aim can't be used to solo ghom. bliz should give dh a new passive like 10% chance to hit for 1000% crit dmg |
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Dec 19 2012, 07:21 PM) I don't get 1 million crits on my barb either... so those guys who is clearing ghom under a minute has really good gear. That's not the point. I get 1.2m from echo blast. but yeah i have good gears.consider barb hota is only doing 400% dmg per attack. there are not much other dmg passive that can be spamed together... on the other hand, a dh can be doing bolas and put 3 sentries for a lot of % dmg per second. unfortunately steady aim can't be used to solo ghom. bliz should give dh a new passive like 10% chance to hit for 1000% crit dmg DPS is DPS am i right? So, a 200k buffed barb out DPS-ing a 260k unbuff DH is not right man. new passive? huh? man, if blizz is going to do smth, please buff WD first and nerf barbs. Sure i want more buffs from Blizz but now the class that needs a buff is WD. Added on December 19, 2012, 7:31 pmbut forget it la, TS is a barb and he'll never admit barbs are OP. This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 19 2012, 07:31 PM |
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Dec 19 2012, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 06:48 PM) Pretty much shows how u have not much idea of how the game is atm. You need LS, 1K DPS without socket aka CD is no good. How can Sever not give a faster kill? 24% to demon at 1k DPS? Please, explain to me. I'm all ears. Yeah how much damage you can dish out depends on the skills you have which atm is pretty unbalanced. How is HOTA not broken? can you please explain? Infact, while you are at it, please explain how is barbs not broken? Please ALeUNe, go brush up on your understanding. Without LS, just imagine you fight ghom with a 3% LS from you bow + without gloom. There is an obvious imbalance... as far as I see, it is the Witch Doctor. Not for other class for now. Let Blizz fix WD first. Added on December 19, 2012, 7:50 pm QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 07:28 PM) I play all class of heroes. Well, WD is the weakest link. This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 19 2012, 07:50 PM |
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 19 2012, 07:48 PM) You need LS, 1K DPS without socket aka CD is no good. Sure, u just won't admit barbs are broken. Cool..Without LS, just imagine you fight ghom with a 3% LS from you bow + without gloom. There is an obvious imbalance... as far as I see, it is the Witch Doctor. Not for other class for now. Let Blizz fix WD first. Added on December 19, 2012, 7:50 pm I play all class of heroes. Well, WD is the weakest link. The thing is, you can easily get LS other where right? hint: belt? passive? So, having no LS on the sever isn't really a deal breaker. So we don't get LS cuz is just gonna handicap us even further. We play around gloom. HOTA is a nice single target DPS. no doubt about it. Spamming HOTA is crazy enough. Spamming HOTA in berserker mode? LOL. p.s: We all know WD is the weakest and monks have the WORST passive. But at least they excel in other areas. WD have good crowd control. Monks are good support if they choose to do so. Wiz? no idea. DH? good DPS char. BARBS? Everything from every class. This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 19 2012, 07:55 PM |
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Not true about Monk passive, we have OP passive; even the name is OP: Pacifism:
While you are under a Stun, Freeze, Fear, or Charm effect, all damage taken is reduced by 75%. It is OP because: - Only ONE monster in the whole game has the ability to stun you, and that’s the Armaddon in Act 4. - NO monster in the whole game has the charm ability, AT ALL. This post has been edited by cowithgun: Dec 19 2012, 08:21 PM |
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^^ wah i love this skill , wotb cant forever utilise
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 19 2012, 08:12 PM) Not true about Monk passive, we have OP passive; even the name is OP: Pacifism: 2 monster. Butcher stun also.While you are under a Stun, Freeze, Fear, or Charm effect, all damage taken is reduced by 75%. It is OP because: - Only ONE monster in the whole game has the ability to stun you, and that’s the Armaddon in Act 4. - NO monster in the whole game has the charm ability, AT ALL. But then wafak with that passive |
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