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zweimmk
post Dec 20 2012, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 20 2012, 12:43 AM)
Yes.. at only a 215nm and will begin to drop as you trying to hit max power before shifting. And due to the close ratio gearbox, you practically shift straight into your max torque and then start losing torque again.. rinse and repeat.. and hence.. still torqueless wonder.

The 3000 rpm in between will see you having less than 200nm of torque.
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So would the Honda NSX engine still be considered a torqueless wonder? I assume it should also be the case if it also has a close ratio gearbox.

Honda C32B.
206kW at 7300 rpm and 304Nm at 5300 rpm.

Just curious.
zweimmk
post Dec 20 2012, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 20 2012, 08:50 AM)
How can it be torqueless when it has 304nm of torque? Do you all actually understand why we call it a torqueless wonder? You might not unless you have driven one and when i say drive, I don't mean test drive the car on a straight road trying to do the century dash. The car works great if you are trying to gun the fastest quarter mile or century dash as you don't feel the lack of torque. Drive it like an everyday car in urban traffic or drive it up Genting and you will understand why we call it the torqueless wonder.

It is less apparent in the FD2R and the term originally coined for the B16s and B18s where the slightly less displacement made it a handicap in the torque curve aka usable torque regions.

The C32B engine is 3.2 liters and large displacement means large amount of torque. You don't call that torqueless wonder. A large displacement engine also means a lot of usable torque at lower RPM. That is the opposite of the smaller engine capacity of the other Type Rs.
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Understood. I get the picture now, there is very little usable bottom end torque.

The family actually did own a B16 EH9 sedan some 17 odd years ago, and from what I remember driving it, it had a fantastic rev and nice roar on the highway. I remember driving it along federal highway midnight, what a rush!

 

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