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post Jan 4 2013, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 4 2013, 02:33 PM)
with enough damage, positioning and using the right skills at the right time, why not?
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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 4 2013, 02:35 PM)
yea why not, not that you need to have to facetank ghom scenario brows.gif
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i think i need some time to get used to positioning, kinda slow reaction now lol
facetank looks like alot more easier now on a single target since there is not much to care about if leeching hp isint a problem
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post Jan 4 2013, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Jan 4 2013, 02:41 PM)
3%LS cannot facetank ghom mp10 meh?
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2.2% LS with 70k dps without LoH is slightly under borderline on ghom mp10.
by that, i basically can't take additional direct dmg from ghom himself/his minions and/or rakanoth.

that's what i gathered from the mp10 sessions so far smile.gif
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post Jan 4 2013, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Jan 4 2013, 03:05 PM)
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i think i need some time to get used to positioning, kinda slow reaction now lol
facetank looks like alot more easier now on a single target since there is not much to care about if leeching hp isint a problem
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But then 99% of time you are not 1vs1.
Cmon pick up the challenge you can do it!
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 4 2013, 03:19 PM)
2.2% LS with 70k dps without LoH is slightly under borderline on ghom mp10.
by that, i basically can't take additional direct dmg from ghom himself/his minions and/or rakanoth.

that's what i gathered from the mp10 sessions so far smile.gif
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Its really hard with 2.2% LS with 70k DPS trying to do MP10 ghom, for the simple reason that the life sustain from LS is not stable unlike LoH which is linear.
You have to factor the times when you dont crit...i.e doing normal damage...which..OMFG..LS is virtually useless.

Hence, for monks..CC is prefered than CD in LS build since the more crits you deal, the more efficient LS becomes. If you stack too much CD and neglect CC, your life sustain tends to end up like yoyo...where you get minimal sustain for a few hits and one big heal when you crit, which at times..you may run out of life before that happens.
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post Jan 4 2013, 04:00 PM

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why shenlong dont have LS rolls!!!

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post Jan 4 2013, 04:03 PM

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Told you shenlong is not BIS weapon for monk, but I admit it looks cool like boxing glove.
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post Jan 4 2013, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 4 2013, 04:03 PM)
Told you shenlong is not BIS weapon for monk, but I admit it looks cool like boxing glove.
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And the coool hoduken effect....cool.

Dont la like that..Shenlong got LS ...just you have to sacrifice the socket for it lor...

@Paranoid: When ajak farming for 4 hijau again...lulz

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post Jan 4 2013, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jan 4 2013, 03:45 PM)
Its really hard with 2.2% LS with 70k DPS trying to do MP10 ghom, for the simple reason that the life sustain from LS is not stable unlike LoH which is linear.
You have to factor the times when you dont crit...i.e doing normal damage...which..OMFG..LS is virtually useless.

Hence, for monks..CC is prefered than CD in LS build since the more crits you deal, the more efficient LS becomes. If you stack too much CD and neglect CC, your life sustain tends to end up like yoyo...where you get minimal sustain for a few hits and one big heal when you crit, which at times..you may run out of life before that happens.
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i got 47.5% crit chance... so... laugh.gif
my LS is pretty linear with almost 1.8aspd and that high amount of cc.

it's just not enough because if i 1v1 ghom, he's gonna hit me. it's only possible because with other people carrying me, ghom hits them, not me.

all that said. i got 2.2 +2.5 LS now whistling.gif
2mil for around 2-4k dps downgrade (old WKL was 78x dps, new is 74x) but i got 2.5% more LS. pretty good tradeoff i'd say.

and yea, i've never been fond of CD. i've ALWAYS been going for crazy CC since the very beginning. (LS/WKL before the trend too!)
if anything, im fairly confident to claim that i am pretty much ahead of trend, i just don't have the luck (mp8 NO KEY WHOO!) nor the time (paragon 26, lol) to actually make it a proven reality (other monks are doing on my behalf lol) wink.gif
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jan 4 2013, 04:12 PM)
And the coool hoduken effect....cool.

Dont la like that..Shenlong got LS ...just you have to sacrifice the socket for it lor...
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I believe that those pls who go for shenlongs, in order to make use of it, opt for 2k LoH route.


Added on January 4, 2013, 4:14 pmShanlong set needs 2.5APS to shine. nuff said


Added on January 4, 2013, 4:16 pm
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 4 2013, 04:13 PM)
i got 47.5% crit chance... so... laugh.gif
my LS is pretty linear with almost 1.8aspd and that high amount of cc.

it's just not enough because if i 1v1 ghom, he's gonna hit me. it's only possible because with other people carrying me, ghom hits them, not me.

all that said. i got 2.2 +2.5 LS now  whistling.gif
2mil for around 2-4k dps downgrade (old WKL was 78x dps, new is 74x) but i got 2.5% more LS. pretty good tradeoff i'd say.

and yea, i've never been fond of CD. i've ALWAYS been going for crazy CC since the very beginning. (LS/WKL before the trend too!)
if anything, im fairly confident to claim that i am pretty much ahead of trend, i just don't have the luck (mp8 NO KEY WHOO!) nor the time (paragon 26, lol) to actually make it a proven reality (other monks are doing on my behalf lol) wink.gif
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yay can facetank ghom already. Can't wait to have some action.

Just like what we did last night with sexbomb, he facetank, i hide at corner to see.

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post Jan 4 2013, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jan 4 2013, 04:12 PM)
And the coool hoduken effect....cool.

Dont la like that..Shenlong got LS ...just you have to sacrifice the socket for it lor...

@Paranoid: When ajak farming for 4 hijau again...lulz
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i love shenlong and im planning to stick with it.. my current LoH is about 1.4k. i will only have problem when there are rd minions. rd bosses manageable.


bila bila pun boleh! i always up for monk party.
i juz realized i dont hav ur btag in my list yet also
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post Jan 4 2013, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Jan 4 2013, 04:27 PM)
i love shenlong and im planning to stick with it..  my current LoH is about 1.4k. i will only have problem when there are rd minions. rd bosses manageable.
bila bila pun boleh! i always up for monk party.
i juz realized i dont hav ur btag in my list yet also
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post Jan 4 2013, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 4 2013, 04:13 PM)
yay can facetank ghom already. Can't wait to have some action.

Just like what we did last night with sexbomb, he facetank, i hide at corner to see.
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still not too confident on doing a 1v1 with mp10 ghom. however i shouldn't need to back off in a 3/4 player mp10 run now, and i definitely don't need to take a huge dps sacrifice by borrowing your LS weapon haha.

that said, act 3 in torchlight 2, in between TL2 camp/bidded the LS WKL, and haven't actually got to use the weapon yet. still free of blood stains whistling.gif
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post Jan 4 2013, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jan 4 2013, 04:13 PM)
I believe that those pls who go for shenlongs, in order to make use of it, opt for 2k LoH route.


Added on January 4, 2013, 4:14 pmShanlong set needs 2.5APS to shine. nuff said


Added on January 4, 2013, 4:16 pm
yay can facetank ghom already. Can't wait to have some action.

Just like what we did last night with sexbomb, he facetank, i hide at corner to see.
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if 2 person face ghom senario
ghom only has a buffed hp? or does his damage amplifies as well?
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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Jan 4 2013, 04:40 PM)
if 2 person face ghom senario
ghom only has a buffed hp? or does his damage amplifies as well?
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multiplayer only buffs hp these days
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post Jan 4 2013, 04:49 PM

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who is using WKL+EF?

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post Jan 4 2013, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Jan 4 2013, 04:49 PM)
who is using WKL+EF?
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I can use EF+WKL
I can use BS+WKL
I can use EF+BS
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post Jan 4 2013, 04:57 PM

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which combi best for higher mp?
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post Jan 4 2013, 05:04 PM

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^^just use 2H-skorn and don't have to worry about combi.
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QUOTE(paranoid @ Jan 4 2013, 04:57 PM)
which combi best for higher mp?
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Best combi for higher MP

EF + WKL for solo..because fear scatters the mobs

FoA + WKL for coop...stun is awesome smile.gif

Or as Moba said...LS Skorn.. FTW but I really cannot see a monk swing so slow...1.6 APS??? beh tahan

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jan 4 2013, 05:05 PM)
FoA + WKL for coop...stun is awesome smile.gif

Or as Moba said...LS Skorn.. FTW but I really cannot see a monk swing so slow...1.6 APS??? beh tahan
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not awesome for the guy that got picked up by SB laugh.gif

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