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SUS2890
post Dec 26 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 26 2012, 04:21 PM)
Monk would surely appreciated the WC from barb so that they can tank infront, while leaving the DH to shoot at the back. CM Wizzy to freeze lock, and barb to deal damages alongside with DH.

How's your MP10 uber session goes?
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i'm barely do ubers but the last time i did them i was fine. I have 500AR so i won't die that easily.
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post Dec 26 2012, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 26 2012, 04:24 PM)
i'm barely do ubers but the last time i did them i was fine. I have 500AR so i won't die that easily.
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I meant what's your role in the uber party?
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post Dec 26 2012, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 26 2012, 04:25 PM)
I meant what's your role in the uber party?
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lol. dmg dealer i suppose? what else can a DH do? oh btw, if the party sucks, i'll get TA to rez ppl. XD
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post Dec 26 2012, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 26 2012, 04:21 PM)
Do not burst down RD elites, then you'll be fine. You need patience on RD elites
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if i play patiently it wont be a problem..i juz wanna build my monk till i can discard the serenity from the skill slot and use other skill such as exloding palm or sumthing
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post Dec 26 2012, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(fallenking @ Dec 26 2012, 04:26 PM)
if i play patiently it wont be a problem..i juz wanna build my monk till i can discard the serenity from the skill slot and use other skill such as exloding palm or sumthing
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WOI! cannot say you wanna discard serenity man. Or else later ppl call u arrogant. I tried to say i didn't want to be serenity dependent and got shot by a monk here saying is arrogant to do so.
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post Dec 26 2012, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(fallenking @ Dec 26 2012, 04:26 PM)
if i play patiently it wont be a problem..i juz wanna build my monk till i can discard the serenity from the skill slot and use other skill such as exloding palm or sumthing
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build a monk that discard OWE first so u can have more freedom in passives...not good to have 2 passives locked down. STI + OWE.
if you wanna ditch serenity, maybe go for wave of light > blinding light. good stun skill.

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post Dec 26 2012, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(fallenking @ Dec 26 2012, 04:26 PM)
if i play patiently it wont be a problem..i juz wanna build my monk till i can discard the serenity from the skill slot and use other skill such as exloding palm or sumthing
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My monk just can't do without serenity -ascension in mp10 ...sad but true however it can be discarded for any lower mp than the highest.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 26 2012, 04:32 PM
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post Dec 26 2012, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 26 2012, 04:30 PM)
My monk just can't do without serenity -ascension in mp10 ...sad but true.
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considering your gear, i honestly find it hard to believe laugh.gif
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post Dec 26 2012, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(fallenking @ Dec 26 2012, 04:26 PM)
if i play patiently it wont be a problem..i juz wanna build my monk till i can discard the serenity from the skill slot and use other skill such as exloding palm or sumthing
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It is doable without serenity, even in MP10. That's for sure.
Everyone can do it.

It is just less practical.
For me, it just doesn't quite make sense to drop such skill.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 26 2012, 04:32 PM)
It is doable without serenity, even in MP10. That's for sure.
Everyone can do it.

It is just less practical.
For me, it just doesn't quite make sense to drop such skill.
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How?

If doable means 1 death for every 2 packs of elite then no go.

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post Dec 26 2012, 04:33 PM

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im not being arrogant man..if i cant do higher MP w/o serenity than i know that my monk is not good enuff..its sumthing worth a try..@@
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 26 2012, 04:32 PM)
How?
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Just drop it from your skill setup. See if you survive or not.
I did the Ghom@MP10 without serenity.
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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 26 2012, 04:29 PM)
build a monk that discard OWE first so u can have more freedom in passives...not good to have 2 passives locked down. STI + OWE.
if you wanna ditch serenity, maybe go for wave of light > blinding light. good stun skill.
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agree.

1. discard OwE
2. discard STI

I did 2. still funding for option 1.

Now MP10 uber run I use Chant of resonance (for more spirit regen so that I can spam MoC to the party) + TGP (I would want to have some dodge) + OwE

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 26 2012, 04:34 PM)
Just drop it from your skill setup. See if you survive or not.
I did the Ghom@MP10 without serenity.
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Of course, Ghom@mp10 can do however certain elite packs can be dreadful.
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post Dec 26 2012, 04:36 PM

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^ I think is not about dropping the skill but to dependent less on it. That skill imo is ideally for oh shit moments.

I think serenity is kinda identical to smokescreen. It makes you a lazy player.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Dec 26 2012, 04:34 PM)
Just drop it from your skill setup. See if you survive or not.
I did the Ghom@MP10 without serenity.
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me2. ghom w/o serenity but that does not count on actual gameplay. Ghom was the most headache boss but now shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 26 2012, 04:32 PM)
How?

If doable means 1 death for every 2 packs of elite then no go.
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K...I...T...E.

No serenity means you cant face tank all the time. But I do agree you can ditch serenity as long you got good life sustain, high EHP and good timing skills on potion, teleport out before the Ohhhhhhh FFFFFFUUUUU moments
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QUOTE(fallenking @ Dec 26 2012, 04:33 PM)
im not being arrogant man..if i cant do higher MP w/o serenity than i know that my monk is not good enuff..its sumthing worth a try..@@
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i'm not calling you arrogant. I had the same idea as you when i tried to roll a monk few pages ago. Some "monk" here called me arrogant for wanting to rely less on serenity. Epic huh.
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 26 2012, 04:35 PM)
Of course, Ghom@mp10 can do however certain elite packs can be dreadful.
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Put it this way, you still die when you fight certain bad-ass elites, with or without serenity.

It is doable for sure. But I don't see a point to drop it.

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Dec 26 2012, 04:34 PM)
TGP (I would want to have some dodge) + OwE
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speaking of TGP, i was using it with you since i can benefit from your MOE.

but i realized after going back to solo doing belial, f***er is 2 shotting me if i am not dodging without resolve (which requires 3-4 hit to kill me, and before 3 hit ever lands assume i wont dodge, my LS or life glove is enough to recover me back up)

funny how i never viewed resolve being that critical and just used it all the time because i was comfortable with it back since my tanking days.

and despite nerf, to me it is a day/night difference in mp5 belial fight (1 being effortless faceroll, while the other being a few retries)

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