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yuhhaur
post Dec 20 2012, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 20 2012, 02:29 PM)
As far as 200k dps monk is concerned, mp5 is ezpz.
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post Dec 20 2012, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 20 2012, 02:33 PM)
i guess my shitty 60k dps have it easier since you know, i take shit RD damage, right? laugh.gif

in all seriousness, it isn't all EZPZ for me but hey, managed to farm that 10 act 1 keys, moved on to act 2, and so far gotten 1 key out of the 5 or 6 kills i had on him laugh.gif

ill be seeing that... honest green man for a while lol.
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post Dec 20 2012, 02:40 PM

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I don't do belial. KW then finish. restart and I'll be inside the vault. rinse and repeat.
Vault I do 5NV + THAT huge group of mobs.
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post Dec 20 2012, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 03:30 PM)
Dude, it does not work like that. 100k DPS with 3% LS leeches you 3k life but RD gives you 10k damage back. 200k DPS with 3% LS leeches you 6k life but RD gives you 20k damage back. Is not as simple as you pointed out. I'm too lazy to elaborate.

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No it does not work like that either.

ME: 83k dps
Basing on D3up.com stats:

Fists of Thunder - Thunderclap
DPS 180920
Average Hit 73775
Damage Range 17919 - 37199
Critical Hit 94970 - 197153

Life Steal/Hit Avg 796.77
Life on Hit/Hit Avg 1211.25
LPS (APS*(LoH+LS)) 4924.31
Spirit Generation 14.71 spirit/sec

Quazacolt: 66k dps
Fists of Thunder - Thunderclap
DPS 144143
Average Hit 55354
Damage Range 14716 - 29925
Critical Hit 61220 - 124489

Life Steal/Hit Avg 243.56
LPS (APS*(LoH+LS)) 634.23
Spirit Generation 15.62 spirit/sec

Moba: 120k dps
Fists of Thunder - Thunderclap
DPS 263124
Average Hit 78311
Damage Range 14700 - 29845
Critical Hit 107164 - 217572

Life Steal/Hit Avg 422.88
LPS (APS*(LoH+LS)) 1420.88
Spirit Generation 20.16 spirit/sec

2890: 112k dps
Fists of Thunder - Thunderclap
DPS 261753
Average Hit 78456
Damage Range 20828 - 42194
Critical Hit 100806 - 204217

Life Steal/Hit Avg 423.66
LPS (APS*(LoH+LS)) 1413.46
Spirit Generation 20.02 spirit/sec
Gear Bonus +10% Damage

The per-hit is the actual damage we need to talk about. Look at the red numbers. I believe the RD is calculated from there. those with >2.0 att spd gets RD hit harder per seconds due to the fact that he hit harder per sec.

QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 03:30 PM)
RD aside, do u think blackthrone pants + chest is good for monks???
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inna pants are BiS for monk. tanker monk can go for BT chest (like what I am right now)


Added on December 20, 2012, 3:48 pmMore:
Waklu's Skorn: 123k dps
Fists of Thunder - Thunderclap
DPS 269378
Average Hit 157531
Damage Range 53404 - 72236
Critical Hit 286779 - 387909

Life Steal/Hit Avg 1858.87
Life on Hit/Hit Avg 197.5
LPS (APS*(LoH+LS)) 3516.39
Spirit Generation 10.26 spirit/sec


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post Dec 20 2012, 03:49 PM

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So, waklu do you feel pain on RD elites?
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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 03:48 PM)
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I think that's what i meant because the LS is base on the damage you are dealing. Right?

But the mechanics here is that RD first then LS so high DPS gonna suffer more because of that. RD is like a ticking bomb for high DPS char.

oh btw, that gear bonus +10% is SoJ bonus right? How do you calculate WKL lightning skill bonus?

p.s: Skorn that good meh???

p.s.s: But merging BT and Inna's pants is kinda bad i think. You get bonus from neither parts.
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no idea. but you can read up:
http://d3up.com/b/204761#dps-math

I pening kepala seeing the figures
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post Dec 20 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 03:48 PM)
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p.s: Skorn that good meh???

p.s.s: But merging BT and Inna's pants is kinda bad i think. You get bonus from neither parts.
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Skorn hit hard. real hard with native 130%-200% CD somemore. +OS the CD shall go up to 300%. But in order to effectively use skorn, you need to stack lots of Att spd to make it worth.

Skorn

me use BT chest+boot, inna head+pant
there are ppl use BT chest+ammy, inna head+pant, nat ring+boot

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post Dec 20 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 03:55 PM)
I have an insane TWH belt that i just can't drop. Man, don't tell me i have to drop mempo or TWH meh..

C'mon monk gurus, any more feedback??
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your way is going for dps monk. those choose BT are tanker monk.

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post Dec 20 2012, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Dec 20 2012, 03:57 PM)
alamak got parasite la inside monk thread.
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now only you know how can monk thread roll 4 generations? Of course it was parasite-ed.
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 20 2012, 04:07 PM)
tak pe la we're all here to help each other as fellow monks. even if there are parasites, if they are also monks, does it make a difference?
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you are not talking about me don't you tongue.gif I spam so much here so I take the 1st slot of being parasited
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(sexbomb @ Dec 20 2012, 04:09 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
from one thread to another and from one platform to another
just gotta bare with it i guess
will stock up on ridsect anda baygon when im active again

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make sure to spray on yourself to get the immunity rolleyes.gif

So, anymore skorn user does not 1hit himself vs RD?
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:22 PM

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If you don't take AR then you'll reduce your AR down to 4xx, with your 4k+ armor it is no good IMHO on higher MP levels.
MP1? screw it any rojak also can.

If I was you, I'll stick with the mempo.
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 20 2012, 04:24 PM)
...depends on the other stats of your mempo; dex > 190, ias = 9 & life % = 12 then ok.
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his mempo:
196dex, 75AR, ASI 9%, Life12%CHC3.5%. End game mempo.

BiS mempo:
+80 Resistance to All Elements
Attack Speed Increased by 9%
+12% Life
+200 Dexterity
+1 Random Magic Properties roll 6% CHC

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post Dec 20 2012, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 20 2012, 04:32 PM)
Unless you abadone your resolve (not the passive skill nor pun intended) and you pick OWE, I dont think you can afford to lose more AR on your toon bro. Its a bad idea to go below 500AR no matter how good your life sustain stats are.

However, if I am you, I'll picked Vit as EHP wise Vit>AR and pants tend to give up to 200 Vit compared 80AR. Also, Vit is cheaper than AR..i.e a 150 Vit is much cheaper than 75AR. ( Iam a cheapskate) If you chose BT chest, the loss of AR can be compensated, but you plus gain tonnes of Vit, hence EHP.

Your mempo has CC? jackpot..lol. Keep the mempo. BIS liao. So you go no choice but get Inna pants + chest lor. Get a Vast expense with AR then...expensive but me sure you can afford it..hehehe..and yes the 130 dex bonus is to good to pass.
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@2890 no need OwE, his gears are ALL AR gears.
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:39 PM

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no no no don't go OwE route. that is the bad choice to go OwE on your current setup.


Added on December 20, 2012, 4:39 pm
QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 20 2012, 04:35 PM)
i'm using mostly my DH gears or gears i kept after i upgrade my DH. so, now buying new gears to use OWE is gonna cost and i don't wanna burn any more gold man.

Man, monk is like... aduhhhh
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Added on December 20, 2012, 4:40 pm
QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 20 2012, 04:38 PM)
Seems like Inna Chest + Pants is the easiest way out but you need to have AR on them. It gonna cost you smile.gif
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inna pants: 50AR cost at least 30mil. I checked for this day by day so that I can motivate myself in getting one
inna chest: me dun dare to look at it

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post Dec 20 2012, 04:47 PM

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@2890, actually you can try to work out your ammy as it is only a +4RNG rolled ammy. It still got room to improve.


Added on December 20, 2012, 4:49 pm@2890, find a Vile Ward that can get rid of the INT roll.


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post Dec 20 2012, 04:57 PM

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because in native inna Vast does not roll AR. IK, Tal, Zuni & BT all roll AR.
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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Dec 20 2012, 04:56 PM)
Can i be a tanker monk? =p kinda stuck with my current built.. Change my previous shenlong with +OS (-200% cd) with 5.9 LS and 1.8k loh =(
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tanker monk: 6k armor+600AR+5%LS+1kLoH. Itu saja. make sure you don't die @ MP10 is the target.

Wowow @fe3doe is a monk w/o inna!
You don't need that much INT. get a better BT chest that rolled armor/str to replace the INT if you wanna be tanker.


Added on December 20, 2012, 5:04 pm
QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 20 2012, 05:00 PM)
Not sure if its the best choice. RA get CHD roll 90% above, since its cheaper than a socket and you need to get a gem for it. losing 4-5% CHD is not a big deal.
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swapping out the pants' 58dex emerald (downgrade pants to 4x dex) for weapon use is also not a big deal whistling.gif

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 20 2012, 05:06 PM)
And why on earth you are using the worst passive ever..Pacifism?????? Lulz....
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because cow said so tongue.gif

QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 19 2012, 08:12 PM)
Not true about Monk passive, we have OP passive; even the name is OP: Pacifism: user posted image

While you are under a Stun, Freeze, Fear, or Charm effect, all damage taken is reduced by 75%.

It is OP because:

- Only ONE monster in the whole game has the ability to stun you, and that’s the Armaddon in Act 4.
- NO monster in the whole game has the charm ability, AT ALL.

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post Dec 20 2012, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(qicquser @ Dec 20 2012, 05:11 PM)
High CHD also means high RD risk. Burst damage gonna hurt you back. I would go for high Atk spd + CC
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die by RD in chainsaw manner is better than 1shotted huh? tongue.gif


Added on December 20, 2012, 5:16 pm
QUOTE(fe3doe @ Dec 20 2012, 05:14 PM)
Testing for mp10 gorm.. Lol.. 3min.. Lol super noob.. Normally will used duel weilding for dodge.=p
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don't worry, I also 3min.

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