Guys which better?
WKL No. 1
859.6 DPS
6%
23%
161 DEX
3% LS
Os
WKL No. 2
881.3%
6%
25%
152 DEX
2.7% LS
OS
Monk Discussion V4, guides, opinions and builds for Monk!
Monk Discussion V4, guides, opinions and builds for Monk!
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Dec 19 2012, 03:56 PM
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Guys which better?
WKL No. 1 859.6 DPS 6% 23% 161 DEX 3% LS Os WKL No. 2 881.3% 6% 25% 152 DEX 2.7% LS OS |
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Dec 19 2012, 04:00 PM
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2nd WKL looks better due toe more lightning damage and higher dps, the 10 dex and 0.3% lifesteal is not a huge deal compared to the dps and extra lightning damage
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Dec 19 2012, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(Slythape @ Dec 19 2012, 04:00 PM) 2nd WKL looks better due toe more lightning damage and higher dps, the 10 dex and 0.3% lifesteal is not a huge deal compared to the dps and extra lightning damage what about the damage range?? should i look at that as well? the first one has a higher min dmg but low on the max dmg.This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 19 2012, 04:06 PM |
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Dec 19 2012, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(MoMoTear @ Dec 19 2012, 03:45 PM) aim 5k armor + 600ARAdded on December 19, 2012, 4:07 pm QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 04:06 PM) what about the damage range?? should i look at that as well? the first one has a higher min dmg but low on the max dmg. I look at the damage range instead of the paper dps.This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Dec 19 2012, 04:07 PM |
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Dec 19 2012, 04:11 PM
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Dec 19 2012, 04:20 PM
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...lightning skill 2% more damage scales in accordance with your total damage is king, 'nuff said.
This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 19 2012, 04:22 PM |
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Dec 19 2012, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Dec 19 2012, 04:20 PM) Agreed. In long term it adds a hell more EDPS as you can have 7 tornados out each with 2% more damage. It scales...@Moba..was wondering since you got a monk and a barb...which toon do you prefer? U dont have to answer if you dont want to...just curious cause I might be tempted to build a HoTA barb just for the lulz... @2890..damn you got lots of golds to splash...me bet either WKL comes in from 300M onwards? This post has been edited by gladfly: Dec 19 2012, 05:18 PM |
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Dec 19 2012, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 19 2012, 05:17 PM) Agreed. In long term it adds a hell more EDPS as you can have 7 tornados out each with 2% more damage. It scales... Nah is 190-230m range la. Well, i hit jackpot few days ago. So now, can easily roll a new char no problem.@Moba..was wondering since you got a monk and a barb...which toon do you prefer? U dont have to answer if you dont want to...just curious cause I might be tempted to build a HoTA barb just for the lulz... @2890..damn you got lots of golds to splash...me bet either WKL comes in from 300M onwards? This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 19 2012, 05:24 PM |
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Dec 19 2012, 05:30 PM
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Dec 19 2012, 05:32 PM
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Dec 19 2012, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 05:24 PM) Nah is 190-230m range la. Well, i hit jackpot few days ago. So now, can easily roll a new char no problem. Ahah..your 250Dex mempo sold for 100m??? lol..Thats decent priced WKL, but let it be known now least if you are not warned..WKL = cookie cutter build meaning it ties you to FoT + SW/cyclone build. If you depart fromt his cookie cutter build....the WKL become a mediocre weapon. But still I love my WKL to death..hence still sticking to it even though I had brief moments thinking of selling it. A 928 DPS 6/20 893LoH OS WKL... |
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Dec 19 2012, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 19 2012, 05:17 PM) Agreed. In long term it adds a hell more EDPS as you can have 7 tornados out each with 2% more damage. It scales... My monk takes precedence over my barb whenever I'm in the mood to do coop games however I do have a DH waiting to make her presence felt in pvp.@Moba..was wondering since you got a monk and a barb...which toon do you prefer? U dont have to answer if you dont want to...just curious cause I might be tempted to build a HoTA barb just for the lulz... @2890..damn you got lots of golds to splash...me bet either WKL comes in from 300M onwards? |
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Dec 19 2012, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Dec 19 2012, 05:39 PM) Ahah..your 250Dex mempo sold for 100m??? lol.. lol. 100m is jackpot to you? Nah, ammy went for 1.1 ish bil after tax. That's jackpot.Thats decent priced WKL, but let it be known now least if you are not warned..WKL = cookie cutter build meaning it ties you to FoT + SW/cyclone build. If you depart fromt his cookie cutter build....the WKL become a mediocre weapon. But still I love my WKL to death..hence still sticking to it even though I had brief moments thinking of selling it. A 928 DPS 6/20 893LoH OS WKL... LS > LOH =D |
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Dec 19 2012, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 04:06 PM) what about the damage range?? should i look at that as well? the first one has a higher min dmg but low on the max dmg. i'll only bother about dmg range if it's on my main handAdded on December 19, 2012, 5:45 pm QUOTE(cowithgun @ Dec 19 2012, 05:30 PM) lolThis post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 19 2012, 05:45 PM |
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Dec 19 2012, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 05:41 PM) Ghahaha..never had more than 100M so now you know I am a poor fag..LS>LoH FACT, trying bid a similiar LS 928 DPS WKL? Sorry mine was a drop which I sold and was returned/resold to me Added on December 19, 2012, 5:56 pm QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 19 2012, 05:44 PM) AFAIK, it doesnt make any difference mainhand or off hand for monks. Skills calculated from active weapon right?But I only got to know recently that SW scales with IAS, hence....faster weapons generates more powerful vortexes...intriguing... This post has been edited by gladfly: Dec 19 2012, 05:56 PM |
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Dec 19 2012, 07:50 PM
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Dec 19 2012, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 19 2012, 07:50 PM) Actually, IIRC, that is for barbs, for monks there is no difference whether it si main or off hand. A good read can be found here:http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6202181225EG Sweeping Wind As I showed above, for an individual weapon, the weapon speed does not matter for total Cyclone damage contribution, just weapon DPS. This situation becomes more complicated when you are dual wielding however. Just to continue my example, let's assume we are now dual-wielding both weapons from my previous example.Because your overall base attacks per second while dual-wielding is an average of your weapons, our new attacks per second is 1.5 (multiplied by % attack speed on gear and the 15% attack speed boost from dual-wield, but this contribution is not significant for this example because that would affect both weapons equally).If you recall, the damage of SW and Cyclone is "set" based on which hand is active when you use the ability. Let's see what happens when our active weapon is both of the ones in this example.If we "set" our damage with our slow main hand weapon, Cyclone will be hitting for 20 damage per shock again, for 120 total damage. Our overall attacks per second is now 1.5 however, which makes our Cyclones spawned per second 0.75 (1.5 APS * 50% Crit). So Cyclones are adding 90 DPS on average (120 dmg * 0.75). This is more than just this weapon alone.If we "set" our damage with our fast off-hand weapon, Cyclone will be hitting for 10 damage per shock with a total of 60 damage. Again, our overall attacks per second is 1.5 and we are getting 0.75 Cyclones per second. Cyclone is only adding 45 DPS in this situation (60 * 0.75). This is less than with just this weapon alone. Credit to Rehwyn. |
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Dec 19 2012, 09:39 PM
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As promised. As away if you have any questions |
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Dec 19 2012, 10:05 PM
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Dec 19 2012, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(waklu @ Dec 19 2012, 09:39 PM) Tempest Rush: Northern Breeze? Tailwind too fast to pick up gold? I should try it too. Your pickup radius is incredible. Health Link Elites is bug at the moment... Thanks for the video... I got something idea to improve my Tempest Rush now... Added on December 19, 2012, 10:28 pm QUOTE(2890 @ Dec 19 2012, 10:05 PM) 131k DPS with WKL??? That's crazy!Normally I would say 2.7 LS without LoH is not enough... but with that damage.... you tell me! This post has been edited by cowithgun: Dec 19 2012, 10:28 PM |
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