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Ahn3hn3h
post Sep 1 2013, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Sep 1 2013, 02:29 AM)
As UW, pointed out, on that matter we are not to judge, and we do not know the whole story as you and me are not even the members of the church, i decline to say anything about it...........i do discuss this matter with my friend before he said this back to me "who are you to judge?"

Judgement belong to God solely, and the case is still ongoing in the court who know if he really guilty or not?

If you feel disturbed on this matter, pray to God for guidance smile.gif
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No one is judging anyone here. Wisdom is the ability to discern false prophets.

I thank God that he gave me the ability to discern the true motives and intentions of those who preaches in church. Amen

Luke 12:57 (NKJV)

57 “Yes, and why, even of yourselves, do you not judge what is right?

Hosea 4:6 (NKJV)

6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
Because you have rejected knowledge,
I also will reject you from being priest for Me;
Because you have forgotten the law of your God,
I also will forget your children.

Isaiah 11:2-3 (NKJV)

2 The Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him,
The Spirit of wisdom and understanding,
The Spirit of counsel and might,
The Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord.

3 His delight is in the fear of the Lord,
And He shall not judge by the sight of His eyes,
Nor decide by the hearing of His ears;
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post Sep 1 2013, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Sep 1 2013, 03:28 PM)
if that so, do refrain from speaking about it in the public for by doing so it make you look like a desperate person who is having a personal grudges against the said person instead pray to the Lord for the pastor to repent, whatever he did in the church that is not your concern, it's the members of that church to decide............you can only pray

while i am at it, you should listen to sermon of pastor Nick Vujicic live right now at DUMC.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/dumcmy
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No I do not personally judge anyone openly in public and hold any grudges against anyone. If there's anything amidst in someone's preachings and sermons, I'll just refrain from attending future talks by him.

Afterall why would I want to spoil someone's rice bowl?
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post Sep 2 2013, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 2 2013, 05:33 PM)
God never promise that exact word "Rich" in the corporate world sense but very consistently God use the word prosperity which is the actual meaning.
Not Reward with riches in this life but provide with an abundance in this life which is there is a difference. That means more than enough.
It's in the scripture.
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Bro UW, please clarify what is the meaning behind abundance which you speak of?

Does it mean the ability to order 10 plates of food when you eat out and only able to eat 1 plate sending the rest to the collection bins?

Does it mean we can buy a few SUVs and keep them in our garages for display while only use 1 at most all the time?

The ability to change your iPhone every 6 months or every year?

Over excess will only lead to vanity and how can we call that a blessing from God which it only destroy mankind and tempts man to sin?

If only the richest in the world would share their excess wealth with everyone else and keep enough to lead a pleasant life until he returns to dust, then there would be less suffering.
If only the trillions of dollars were spend to improve public amenities and improving civillian lives instead of funding world wars.

Can you afford to tell that to your rich elite church members which are a lifeline to your organization's bank accounts?

The printing of money and inflation is also a good example of vanity that we can learn as a lesson.

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post Sep 3 2013, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 3 2013, 10:16 AM)
Hi Ahn3hn3h,

Abundance means having more than enough, as to how that materialize, that is in the hands of God to each person.
Not for me to decide.

How sure are you, everyone who have excess will be lead to a vanity?
You seem to generalize a lot. David had riches so abundant, He gave it almost all to rebuild God's temple. He's a king mind you,
far richer than the billionaires of today.

Have you not read in Luke 16 where being honest, trustworthy and one who knows his priority are the requirements?

No. God never asked us to use his blessings in vain.
He gives us so that we use it to help others.

Luke 16:9 (NLT)
Here's the lesson: Use your worldly resources to benefit others and make friends. Then, when your earthly possessions are gone, they will welcome you to an eternal home.

This involves paying back to your parents, your in laws, relative, neighbors, Church, charity, the homeless you meet in the street, etc.

I don't know why you have such explosive negative thoughts of others.

Don't you know God does not want us to harbor bitterness and resentment towards others?

1 Corinthians 13:4-5
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

That IS a command from God. Not to keep any records of wrongs. It means to forgive.

I know you may not be a perfect Christian, in fact nobody is, (myself included) but the irony is, if you know you're not perfect, don't put your high expectation on others as well.

Well I agree with you, the elite Rich should give back to society, by all means they should!, but what they do with their blessings, that is not for us to decide.
Let God deal with them. When I say let God, I really mean let God have the say and the right (we back off), our part is to keep loving others as Christ commanded.

I'm sure we have far better things to do than to feel resentment towards Rich elite Church members. I for one won't waste my time thinking about this.
We all have our own life to consider not others.
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There is no generalization made and I firmed that excess only leads to vanity.It's a FACT

Selfishness and greed is synomymous with abundance. They are mutually dependent.Even if you relate inheritance brought down by by decendence, the sins of the forefathers are brought down to the latest offspring.

When you have abundance, there is high tendency that one would have it go to waste which is a sin when there are so many homeless mouths to feed out there on the streets.

1 John 2:15-17 (NKJV)

Do Not Love the World

15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of the world. 17 And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever.

Will your Father bless you with something which will destroy your soul and character? Is spoiling your child considered a blessing?

Our Heavenly Father will make sure that we'll not suffer to unbearable conditions while temporary on earth and he'll prepare us a nice home when we past on in life.

1 Corinthians 10:13 (NKJV)

13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.

1 Timothy 6:10 (NKJV)

10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

1 Timothy 6:9 NKJV)

9 But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition.

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post Sep 3 2013, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Sep 3 2013, 09:08 AM)
Can God help reduce petrol price and decrease burden of the ppl in Malaysia?
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This you have the ask the people who governs the economy and central banks if they're willing to free the people up from slavery.
Or share their wealth with the public so that the money can return back to the country reserves.

Maybe we can ask the pastors and mega churches that pray for Solomon's wisdom to be bestowed upon politicians to start war in the name of Jesus?


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post Sep 3 2013, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 3 2013, 11:16 PM)
Erm, Abraham wasn't destroyed, David wasn't destroyed, Neither was Soloman destroyed by greed, neither were they greedy.
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You mean they were very rich with money which is today's most associated word with wealth?

Today's definition of wealth is mostly measured with monetary value. How many properties, cars and gold you have which does not get compared with monetary value?

I give it to that fat humpty dumty pastor who seek for Solomon's wisdom so that his country would go to war. I don't blame him for doing that because he's been paid handsomely by warlords to go on TV to give a speech like that.
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post Sep 3 2013, 11:59 PM

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I've already said you can't have abundance without greed and selfishness in the same context.
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post Sep 4 2013, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 4 2013, 12:03 AM)
Abraham lied about his wife - Fear
David Killed Bersheba husband - lust
Soloman many wives - lust

All these is to prove 2 things

1. No one could obey the 10 commandments perfectly.
2. It has nothing to do with abundance or money.
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Just a simple question. You think a poor man can afford poligamy and comitting adultery?
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post Sep 4 2013, 12:15 AM

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I have yet seen a poor man who could afford a Playboy lifestyle.


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post Sep 12 2013, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 10 2013, 03:04 PM)

excerpt....

Today, many Christians see the rapid erosion of biblical authority in the name of ‘science’, but are afraid of taking a stand. They often feel intimidated by aggressive atheists, and even by theologians often seeking to justify the liberties they have taken with God’s Word. They are unaware of the huge amount of evidence, especially surfacing recently, supporting what Paul and the Lord Jesus took for granted—that Genesis is real history.

It’s for unbelievers, too...
Our next printed newsletter will share the story of how a similar conference in Australia led to the conversion of a sceptical young Singaporean biological PhD student.
Using scientology to debunk Christ and his works?

Jesus overlooked and took things for granted?

Clearly this is starting to sound like anti-Christ stuff.

The weakest victims that often fall prey to such modern day anti Christ teachings are often the very educated one with high qualifications. These group of people's careers depend heavily on throwing support for sciences and technology. They're often left in the dilemma of having to take sides between Jesus's humble teachings on world science evidences which lean towards atheism and satanic influences.

If you ask a scientist with PhD qualification or a doctor to take a stance between faith in Christ or modern science works/medicine, what kind of answers is expected of them?
Clearly their job depends heavily on their PR marketing theories.
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post Sep 12 2013, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 12 2013, 04:49 PM)
you know, when you don't read properly or understand properly of what is posted, the result is as what you've posted.
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Then tell me if I was actually opposing such event or I was seconding it?

Before you accuse me of posting irrelevent reply, tell me if you've understood what I wrote as well.
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post Sep 25 2013, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(vincabby @ Sep 20 2013, 10:22 AM)

Fast forward a few months and my wife and I find ourselves deciding to visit some prominent churches in our city, as well as churches that we have preached at in the past. She would wear a mini-skirt, I would wear some baggy jeans with a hat put on backwards, with big diamond earrings in my ears, and we would pretend like we didn’t know much about how “church worked.” In almost every single church no one would say hi to us, people would simply stare at us, I had people in services tap me on my shoulder and tell me to take my hat off… Some of my Pastor friends didn’t even recognize it was me and were absolutely shocked when I revealed myself. All in all… most places left me not wanting to ever come back. I remember in one service I couldn’t even focus on the message because I was so infuriated as to how this one lady treated me. I wanted to tell her I’m an ordained minister and read off my rap sheet out of some misplaced sense of pride, but I managed to keep it together. Then I got it.

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Do not challenge and use God's name in vain. There is a limit.

It is because of such allowance and soft stances that many of today's churches are getting destroyed and corrupted. They are compromising on church rules for the sake of increasing the size of congregation without realizing the risks involve.

It is these sort of churches that are emerging in the US that are slowly opening up the house of worship to gay marriage acceptance and lucriferian members because they are slowly becoming thirsty for more membership numbers.

Why is membership so important that many modern day churches are slowly compromising their traditional strict rules? Simply admit it.

You need MONEY to fund your lavish lifestyles and your megachurch operations. They insists that you need to tithe at least 10% of your income to your church or else you're robbing GOD of his blessings. Tell that to the masters of pyramid marketing.

Just imagine, if you're a church CEO with a congregation of a few thousand with each member giving tithes of 10% of their income obediently on average to your organization. You'll be one of the most cunning businessman ever!
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post Sep 25 2013, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Sep 25 2013, 11:33 PM)
10% of your total income for tithe is not necessary a must but out of your heart will, my salary is less than 1.5k every month after epf and sosco deductions, i still have other commitments too so after deducting everything, i actually tithe more than 10%, as i said it is up to your heart will
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Of course they never say it's compulsory a must but once you're a devoted brainwashed believer the whole situation changes. The psychology of guilt will make you think of it as if it's LAW.

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