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post Jan 23 2014, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 23 2014, 04:54 PM)
Ha. I'm leading the youth in my Church.

Not easy task. What to change?

The usual. Insecurity, Emotional hurts, etc.

How I don't get burn out?

My focus is on God to provide me the strength.
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Depend la...

Like the tmn bilon one, the leader is damn blady rich POS. He get burden ah?

Got one time he preach la, it is not good to be rich, you should humble your wealth before god...when he himself stay in a 7 storey mansion with luxury cars.

Like i say, different church got differnt situation...i dunno yours.

But i know that one, the leader conspire with the core leaders there, to give preferential treatment...treat the rest like nazi persecuting jews.
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post Jan 23 2014, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 23 2014, 01:25 PM)
If you're familiar with the Bible, we call this spiritual blindness.
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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 23 2014, 04:30 PM)
wrong...don't be brainwashed.

Yes priority is god but if you don't feel belonged to a church, you will definitely burn out.

Fellowship is very important. Of course no church is perfect but this tmn billion one is a piece of shiit. If there was a riot and people burn it down, i wouldn't feel sorry for it. In fact i will cheer it.

I served in one music ministry...lots of politics. Ya know what the leader told me off, he accuse me of wanting to join to learn up the audio stuff so when i master it, i will leave and profit elsewhere. What he doesn't know that i've been paying his salary indirectly via my 10% offerings and this is how i get treated for volunterring to serve. He made me attend rehearsals for 5 hours a week. He and his cohorts refuse to teach me, even with my own initiative to ask, wasn't entertained by the click group. But there was another guy who belonged to his cg (krony), that new guy within 4 weeks is already in charge of the RM40k lighting system, video and sound later on. While i was there for 4 months doing nothing. After that, i quit. I complain to my friend who work full time at church. Apparently, even his ministry have come into loggerhead with this leader. Bottom line is, see the initial warning signs if the ministry/church don't seem right, don't continue. There are some satan infested people even in church.

My fren at Ciiitttyy Harvvvvessssttt, served many years there, no doors was definitely open for him..why? It happened on the very day that when i attended a rally, they had some big shots comingfrom America, my fren forgot to greet them...and for that reason, he was given counselling and demoted. Outrageous. When i read the paper about KH and his wife apparent diversion of funds to her pop career, i wasn't surprise.

If something is not right, bail out. There are many churches out there. I am sure you will find the right one.

If you stay at unhappy church, even god open the door for you, you will not enter because by staying there, signafies your refusal to receive the open door.
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since u went city harvest, did u meet the lady in my profile pic? u shook her hand? smooth or not? har? har? har? drool.gif
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post Jan 23 2014, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(mobileapps @ Jan 23 2014, 05:57 PM)
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since u went city harvest, did u meet the lady in my profile pic? u shook her hand? smooth or not? har? har? har?  drool.gif
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Correction...spiritual awakening

Not blindness...

Awake...from the crap politics of church.

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My fren went, not the spore one la, the Sunway Ciiitttyyy Harvveessttt.


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post Jan 23 2014, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 23 2014, 06:00 PM)
Correction...spiritual awakening

Not blindness...

Awake...from the crap politics of church.

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My fren went, not the spore one la, the Sunway Ciiitttyyy Harvveessttt.
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aiyaa..

last time i was there for frens wedding, didnt notice the amoi accountant also.

next time i go i try again... oooh so hot.. milf liao. wub.gif
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post Jan 23 2014, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 23 2014, 06:00 PM)
Correction...spiritual awakening

Not blindness...

Awake...from the crap politics of church.

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My fren went, not the spore one la, the Sunway Ciiitttyyy Harvveessttt.
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PV 128 City Harvest also same group as sunway city harvest?
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post Jan 23 2014, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(mobileapps @ Jan 23 2014, 06:02 PM)
aiyaa..

last time i was there for frens wedding, didnt notice the amoi accountant also.

next time i go i try again... oooh so hot.. milf liao.  wub.gif
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bro, dont, if not God kill you. My friend fornicated church member. He died in accident.
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post Jan 23 2014, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Z1000 @ Jan 23 2014, 06:02 PM)
PV 128 City Harvest also same group as sunway city harvest?
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Dunno...my fren quit harvest like 6 years ago.

But the church wierd one..i read in singapore forums, every sunday service, the members will come up and say he sacrifice his HDB apmt to contribute the church fund, another one say he sell his motorbike so he can take MRT to work - proceeds go to church, another one say he suppose to use $$$ for son education but go to church fund.

Wah the pastor songlap all way.

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post Jan 23 2014, 06:05 PM

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bro, dont, if not God kill you. My friend fornicated church member. He died in accident.
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laugh.gif we all will die someday. u wanna live forever meh? tongue.gif
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post Jan 23 2014, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(mobileapps @ Jan 23 2014, 06:05 PM)
laugh.gif we all will die someday. u wanna live forever meh?  tongue.gif
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bro, go ahead, find good christian one. See you die or not. Even in singapore one young man tries to got afetr another man wife. God told the pastor. and pastor warn the young man. He left church. I believe God would have killed him if he went ahead.
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post Jan 23 2014, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 23 2014, 04:30 PM)
wrong...don't be brainwashed.

Yes priority is god but if you don't feel belonged to a church, you will definitely burn out.

Fellowship is very important. Of course no church is perfect but this tmn billion one is a piece of shiit. If there was a riot and people burn it down, i wouldn't feel sorry for it. In fact i will cheer it.

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Top most priority is still God. To stay or leave a church, depends on God's will, ie what God wants us to you. God want us to stay, stay, God say leave, then leave. Sometimes God tells us to do difficult stuff but from there His grace, strength & wisdom is more for us to do the task/mission/work.

I'm sure you have heard or read of God asking Pastors to take over problematic churches. Something like nobody want to take the big task but God telling them, go do, I your God am with you. They obeyed God & did. This is example from Msia ya.
You might say this is full time, they called to minister, etc. But working outside the church also(marketplace), we are supposed to seek God as to career & major decisions. Now with this Allah thing going on, the most basic question is when time come, will we make a stand or get scared & dont dare go church?

Fellowship, the socializing thing, depends on personality. I find it very tiring, read book or nowadays computer/smartphone better, no people bising2 give more stress. If leader lagilah.

In Msia, many of us are 1st generation CHristians. We bring with us the 'old self' from previous religion. Churches also attract a lot of troubled people looking for love, joy peace,etc. End up, we see these weird characters around.
Some people very sensitive one, sikit2 butthurtt. tongue.gif

Anyway, the flawed nature of humans is why our focus should be on God, humans often times fail us.


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post Jan 23 2014, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 23 2014, 05:50 PM)
This is what i call godly karma la..

I tell you one story la...my fren very innocent one, he went to this church with good intention. Then one day, the youth pastor accuse him of going after girls, and told the other guys whom he gave preferential treatment to go after the girls to prevent outsiders like my fren from "polluting" their gene circle..wtf.

My fren was so hurt, he was shock to be accuse of that but he kept quiet.

One day this stupid buffalo pastor suffer some illness end up bedded in hospital. my stupid fren some more want to pray for his recovery. I told him, yes pray for his recovery, but make sure his suffering is prolong a bit longer, so he can feel my friend's pain and so that he can be humbled (pastor).

This is right what, we want everybody to be blessed but we also want them to feel some prolong pain so they can learn from that. Remember the story of Joseph who was betrayed by his brothers, sold as a slave. Then Joseph became a successful minister in Egypt. When Canaanland had a famine, his brothers came to Egypt to beg for food, but they did not recognise Joseph.

Joseph didn't immediately forgave them, he punish them first by inserting some stuff in thier baggage and accuse them of theft, he then imprisoned the eldest son (one of the main conspirators who sold Joseph to the merchant traders as a slave)...

After his brothers panicked and worried, only then Joseph reveal his true self and gave them all the provisions he can.
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Actually Joseph didn't want to give himself away, that's why He played that game. He didn't do it in an unforgiving sense.
He did it Just to keep his secret intact.

Anyway as Christian, we don't hold grudges. Jesus says to love your enemies. There is a divine reason for it.
You know why? When you have an unforgiving heart, you put yourself into bondages where
it gives the enemy (satan) chances to attack you. You'll face a lot of problem in your spiritual life.


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post Jan 23 2014, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ Jan 23 2014, 05:53 PM)
Depend la...

Like the tmn bilon one, the leader is damn blady rich POS. He get burden ah?

Got one time he preach la, it is not good to be rich, you should humble your wealth before god...when he himself stay in a 7 storey mansion with luxury cars.

Like i say, different church got differnt situation...i dunno yours.

But i know that one, the leader conspire with the core leaders there, to give preferential treatment...treat the rest like nazi persecuting jews.
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Even if you are not rich, one of the blessings of being a Christian is that you won't have to feel any worry or burden about life.

Because God is the one who will provide.

Many Christians have found and live out this blessing.

But people who don't know God, will naturally to get worried in life.


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post Jan 23 2014, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Z1000 @ Jan 23 2014, 06:04 PM)
bro, dont, if not God kill you. My friend fornicated church member. He died in accident.
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Not God. Satan.


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post Jan 23 2014, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 23 2014, 09:33 PM)
Not God. Satan.
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God does pre emptive strike sometimes. God does and has continuesly judge. its his nature.

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post Jan 23 2014, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(Z1000 @ Jan 23 2014, 09:35 PM)
God does pre emptive strike sometimes. God does and has continuesly judge. its his nature.
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Upon first reaction, many people take the word judgement in a negative connotation. If you understand the New Covenant, those who have accepted Christ will be judge for their good work not Salvation.

My preposition is based on 2 Corinthians 5:16-21

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post Jan 23 2014, 09:49 PM

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ive been a sinner, and i kinda backslide and stray away from God.. now i donno where im heading will God forgive me?
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QUOTE(terry98000 @ Jan 23 2014, 09:49 PM)
ive been a sinner, and i kinda backslide and stray away from God.. now i donno where im heading will God forgive me?
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Of course God will forgive you but that's not the point.

The important thing is when will you stop wasting time and get connected to God seriously? biggrin.gif


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post Jan 23 2014, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Z1000 @ Jan 23 2014, 06:07 PM)
bro, go ahead, find good christian one. See you die or not. Even in singapore one young man tries to got afetr another man wife. God told the pastor. and pastor warn the young man. He left church. I believe God would have killed him if he went ahead.
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if she is a good christian, she wont be persuaded to partake in fornication. If she does, she isnt good. so your point is invalid biggrin.gif

on the other hand, nothing you nor anyone can do, that will ever surprise God and make Him does things He never expect to do.
Everything has been pre determined long before we are even born. Live or die, has already been set. You can never change it, otherwise in doing so nullifies God's omniscience and predetermination.

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post Jan 23 2014, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(mobileapps @ Jan 23 2014, 10:09 PM)
if she is a good christian, she wont be persuaded to partake in fornication. If she does, she isnt good. so your point is invalid biggrin.gif

on the other hand, nothing you nor anyone can do, that will ever surprise God and make Him does things He never expect to do.
Everything has been pre determined long before we are even born. Live or die, has already been set. You can never change it, otherwise  in doing so nullifies God's omniscience and predetermination.
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While it's true nothing ever surprises God but it doesn't mean all our actions have been predetermined by God.

I think some people are confuse with this 2 thing.

Whichever decision we make at point A (Let say there are 8 options to choose at point A) that will lead to destination B. God does not force our hand to decide, say option No.3

What Omniscience means is that whether we choose option 1st or 6th or 8th, God will know.

You get it? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(mobileapps @ Jan 23 2014, 10:09 PM)
if she is a good christian, she wont be persuaded to partake in fornication. If she does, she isnt good. so your point is invalid biggrin.gif

on the other hand, nothing you nor anyone can do, that will ever surprise God and make Him does things He never expect to do.
Everything has been pre determined long before we are even born. Live or die, has already been set. You can never change it, otherwise  in doing so nullifies God's omniscience and predetermination.
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