Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
149 Pages « < 115 116 117 118 119 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

> LYN Christian Fellowship V6 (Group), God Loves you.

views
     
prophetjul
post Aug 29 2013, 02:27 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,268 posts

Joined: Oct 2010

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 29 2013, 02:20 PM)
Abundance can include material.

Read Back I said about death; here I repeat for you, since it's very obvious your english is faulty.

Perhaps you don't understand the crucial point whether it's time for a person to be Home with Jesus.

Everyone has an appointed time on Earth. When it's time to go, it's time to go. Doesn't matter the means how one die.
So at that point of time, God will allow it to bring the person home.

But If the said person is meant to live for reasons only known to God , He or She has the right to a healthy body because our Lord Jesus Christ paid for it.
Twice it is mentioned in the OT and repeated in the NT,

By His stripes we were healed?

Yes I know there are many natural sickness and there are many who are not healed.

But that does not negate the truth. It never does.


Nice try but that is not what it means. You always like to hide behind "oh it's only spiritual".

The word Heal in this context is rapha. The very same word used when God heal his people in the OT of their physical ailment.

Spiritual always effect the physical. Remember that. That is why the Bible teaches our warfare always start at Spiritual realm first.
But it always affect the physical non the less. Every Christians knows this.

Back in the OT, before Jesus came the people had to suffer the consequences of their own sins and hence was inflicted judgement.
But When Jesus came, IT is by His wounds we were redeemed back to God. Jesus was punished so that we need not.

And time and time again the word Salvation in the greek and hebrew not only encompass Eternal life but everything in wholeness?

The word Soteria means welfare, prosperity, deliverance, preservation, salvation, safety? So Healing is involved?
*
Nice try nothing. Its called CONTEXT. Physical healing is out of context in this passage in Is 53. Its about transgression, iniquities, peace.
Its spiritual.

Nice try twisting passages into pretexts.

Do you understand that SIN in the OT is likened to the incurable disease called leprosy.
Go and study in Lev where when God heals a leper, he goes through the elaborate ceremony
which is same for sin offering.
prophetjul
post Aug 29 2013, 02:29 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,268 posts

Joined: Oct 2010

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 29 2013, 02:25 PM)
That why's I said we are the spiritual Israelite.
Doesn't matter, God loves us still the same.
God removed the curse of the law but
He did not remove his blessings.  smile.gif
*
Ouch.....now she says spiritual and yet she wants the laws.

Then your grace theology is flawed. Its like that of the galatians

The law encompasses the blessings and curses in Lev.

You cannot have one without the other.

Which is it?


TSunknown warrior
post Aug 29 2013, 02:30 PM

/k/ Legend
*******
Senior Member
6,240 posts

Joined: Jul 2005
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 29 2013, 01:55 PM)
Avoiding what you said, are you?

Did I content DUMC for its worship style or for supporting heretic like Jean Lim?

SO did I say contemporary worship is heretic or were you LYING?
*
You did both, here it is again. Doesn't matter whether you content for DUMC, FGA, etc. Makes no difference.

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 23 2013, 08:50 AM)
Yes....at least some of them are.
Most charis churches try to attract the young and naïve by having contemporary concerts in the guise of worship.
Are worldly ways of attraction pleasing to the Lord inspite of noble intentions?


Bear in mind:
*
TSunknown warrior
post Aug 29 2013, 02:31 PM

/k/ Legend
*******
Senior Member
6,240 posts

Joined: Jul 2005
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 29 2013, 02:09 PM)
What were the purposes of His healings and power ministry?

To shew that God does not want us to be sick?

OR to fulfil prophecies ?
1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted  , to proclaim liberty to the captives , and the opening of the prison to them that are bound ;  2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
*
Oh the irony of your comprehension.
prophetjul
post Aug 29 2013, 02:32 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,268 posts

Joined: Oct 2010

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 29 2013, 02:30 PM)
You did both, here it is again. Doesn't matter whether you content for DUMC, FGA, etc. Makes no difference.
*
QUOTE
Most charis churches try to attract the young and naïve by having contemporary concerts in the guise of worship.
Are worldly ways of attraction pleasing to the Lord inspite of noble intentions?



HERESY?

Or are you misleading others here about me? nod.gif
TSunknown warrior
post Aug 29 2013, 02:32 PM

/k/ Legend
*******
Senior Member
6,240 posts

Joined: Jul 2005
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 29 2013, 02:13 PM)
I am asking this question because we cannot compare ourselves to Jesus when it comes to healing and power.
There is a purpose for the demonstration of His power. 
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified , and sent into the world , Thou blasphemest ; because I said , I am the Son of God?  37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.  38 But if I do , though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know , and believe , that the Father is in me, and I in him.
*
Who is comparing ourselves to Jesus's power?

Comprehension problem again? Yes. nod.gif
prophetjul
post Aug 29 2013, 02:34 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,268 posts

Joined: Oct 2010

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 29 2013, 02:31 PM)
Oh the irony of your comprehension.
*
You can say the same of yerelf about interpreting my grouse of DUMC's worship style as heresy.

OR are you purposely misleading people here about me?
TSunknown warrior
post Aug 29 2013, 02:34 PM

/k/ Legend
*******
Senior Member
6,240 posts

Joined: Jul 2005
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 29 2013, 02:27 PM)
Nice try nothing. Its called CONTEXT. Physical healing is out of context in this passage in Is 53. Its about transgression, iniquities, peace.
Its spiritual.

Nice try twisting passages into pretexts. 

Do you understand that SIN in the OT is likened to the incurable disease called leprosy.
Go and study in Lev where when God heals a leper, he goes through the elaborate ceremony
which is same for sin offering.
*
NO it's not out of context.
The leper was completely and physically healed.


prophetjul
post Aug 29 2013, 02:36 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,268 posts

Joined: Oct 2010

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 29 2013, 02:34 PM)
NO it's not out of context.
The leper was completely and physically healed.
*
Its out of CONTEXT because it does not fit into the Is 53 passage as physical.

Easy to pick verses and make doctrines. That's how cults are born.
TSunknown warrior
post Aug 29 2013, 02:40 PM

/k/ Legend
*******
Senior Member
6,240 posts

Joined: Jul 2005
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 29 2013, 02:29 PM)
Ouch.....now she says spiritual and yet she wants the laws.

Then your grace theology is flawed. Its like that of the galatians

The law encompasses the blessings and curses in Lev.

You cannot have one without the other.

Which is it?
*
Under the New Covenant, we can. God removed the curse of the law but no where His word mentioned He removed his blessings. It's explained in detailed in here.

First We will receive the blessings of Abraham (that's 1) and the Holy Spirit (that's 2)

there highlight big in case you want to say "it's only the holy spirit" rolleyes.gif

Galatians 3:13-14

13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us-- for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE "-- 14in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
TSunknown warrior
post Aug 29 2013, 02:41 PM

/k/ Legend
*******
Senior Member
6,240 posts

Joined: Jul 2005
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 29 2013, 02:32 PM)
HERESY? 

Or are you misleading others here about me?  nod.gif
*
Well that's proof enough of your contempt of the thought of contemporary worship.
TSunknown warrior
post Aug 29 2013, 02:44 PM

/k/ Legend
*******
Senior Member
6,240 posts

Joined: Jul 2005
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 29 2013, 02:34 PM)
You can say the same of yerelf about interpreting my grouse of DUMC's worship style as heresy.

OR are you purposely misleading people here about me?
*
Most people in here knows you're one who likes to create dissension.
No need for me to mislead anyone.
TSunknown warrior
post Aug 29 2013, 02:46 PM

/k/ Legend
*******
Senior Member
6,240 posts

Joined: Jul 2005
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 29 2013, 02:36 PM)
Its out of CONTEXT because it does not fit into the Is 53 passage as physical. 

Easy to pick verses and make doctrines. That's how cults are born.
*
Spiritual will lead to physical.


TSunknown warrior
post Aug 29 2013, 02:48 PM

/k/ Legend
*******
Senior Member
6,240 posts

Joined: Jul 2005
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 29 2013, 02:29 PM)
Then your grace theology is flawed. Its like that of the galatians
*
Grace is NOT a theology.

GET THAT RIGHT.
prophetjul
post Aug 29 2013, 02:54 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,268 posts

Joined: Oct 2010

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 29 2013, 02:40 PM)
Under the New Covenant, we can. God removed the curse of the law but no where His word mentioned He removed his blessings. It's explained in detailed in here.

First We will receive the blessings of Abraham (that's 1) and the Holy Spirit (that's 2)

there highlight big in case you want to say "it's only the holy spirit"  rolleyes.gif

Galatians 3:13-14

13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us-- for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE "-- 14in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
*
I have been through this with you before

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written , Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written , Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. 15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed , no man disannulleth , or addeth thereto . 16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made . He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
You are making up your own theology about the material blessings.

This passage is about the spiritual tieup with Abraham.

a) of faith - spiritual

b) curse of the law- death- spiritual

c) what is the promise? Material? No...the blessing of Abraham is Jesus Christ, his seed.

so that the curse can be broken.

Do you think you will inherit Abraham's blessings of land and nations?

prophetjul
post Aug 29 2013, 02:55 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,268 posts

Joined: Oct 2010

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 29 2013, 02:41 PM)
Well that's proof enough of your contempt of the thought of contemporary worship.
*
My contempt....or as you would have Misled others to imply that I said Contemporary worship was heresy?

Changing words now are we?
prophetjul
post Aug 29 2013, 02:56 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,268 posts

Joined: Oct 2010

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 29 2013, 02:44 PM)
Most people in here knows you're one who likes to create dissension.
No need for me to mislead anyone.
*
Like no need to mislead that I imply that contemporary worship was HERESY?
TSunknown warrior
post Aug 29 2013, 03:00 PM

/k/ Legend
*******
Senior Member
6,240 posts

Joined: Jul 2005
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 29 2013, 02:54 PM)
I have been through this with you before

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.  10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written , Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.  11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.  12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.  13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written , Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:  14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.  15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed , no man disannulleth , or addeth thereto .  16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made . He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
You are making up your own theology about the material blessings.

This passage is about the spiritual tieup with Abraham.

a) of faith - spiritual

b) curse of the law- death- spiritual

c) what is the promise?  Material?  No...the blessing of Abraham is Jesus Christ, his seed. 

so that the curse can be broken.

Do you think you will inherit Abraham's blessings of land and nations?
*
And I WILL go though this with you again.

Don't think that word only pertain to blessings specifically to Abraham about land.
Being a son of daughter of Abraham means you're a spiritual Israelite which means any blessing given to Israel is yours in the context of
God's promises to his children, for in Christ, there is no jew nor gentile. God loves all of us enough to permit his blessings.

prophetjul
post Aug 29 2013, 03:00 PM

10k Club
********
All Stars
12,268 posts

Joined: Oct 2010

Need I post it again?


QUOTE
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 23 2013, 01:37 PM)

Fuyoooo, this guy will claim every Church that has contemporary style of worship as heretic, only his one is the truth. lol.

If this gets posted in DUMC, don't know if you will get bombarded by DUMC or not.

*



Here, you are LYING.

Where did I say contemporary worship is heretic?

What did I say was wrong with DUMC?

Pls stop spouting LIES.

Pls discuss objectively and Truthfully as a Christian.



TSunknown warrior
post Aug 29 2013, 03:01 PM

/k/ Legend
*******
Senior Member
6,240 posts

Joined: Jul 2005
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 29 2013, 02:55 PM)
My contempt....or as you would have Misled others to imply that I said Contemporary worship was heresy?

Changing words now are we?
*
Oh looky "changing words"

wow that's suppose to make me cringe. rolleyes.gif

149 Pages « < 115 116 117 118 119 > » 
Bump Topic Topic ClosedOptions New Topic
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0935sec    0.34    5 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 9th December 2025 - 10:23 AM