QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 29 2013, 02:20 PM)
Abundance can include material.
Read Back I said about death; here I repeat for you, since it's very obvious your english is faulty.
Perhaps you don't understand the crucial point whether it's time for a person to be Home with Jesus.
Everyone has an appointed time on Earth. When it's time to go, it's time to go. Doesn't matter the means how one die.
So at that point of time, God will allow it to bring the person home.
But If the said person is meant to live for reasons only known to God , He or She has the right to a healthy body because our Lord Jesus Christ paid for it.
Twice it is mentioned in the OT and repeated in the NT,
By His stripes we were healed?
Yes I know there are many natural sickness and there are many who are not healed.
But that does not negate the truth. It never does.
Nice try but that is not what it means. You always like to hide behind "oh it's only spiritual".
The word Heal in this context is rapha. The very same word used when God heal his people in the OT of their physical ailment.
Spiritual always effect the physical. Remember that. That is why the Bible teaches our warfare always start at Spiritual realm first.
But it always affect the physical non the less. Every Christians knows this.
Back in the OT, before Jesus came the people had to suffer the consequences of their own sins and hence was inflicted judgement.
But When Jesus came, IT is by His wounds we were redeemed back to God. Jesus was punished so that we need not.
And time and time again the word Salvation in the greek and hebrew not only encompass Eternal life but everything in wholeness?
The word Soteria means welfare, prosperity, deliverance, preservation, salvation, safety? So Healing is involved?
Nice try nothing. Its called CONTEXT. Physical healing is out of context in this passage in Is 53. Its about transgression, iniquities, peace.Read Back I said about death; here I repeat for you, since it's very obvious your english is faulty.
Perhaps you don't understand the crucial point whether it's time for a person to be Home with Jesus.
Everyone has an appointed time on Earth. When it's time to go, it's time to go. Doesn't matter the means how one die.
So at that point of time, God will allow it to bring the person home.
But If the said person is meant to live for reasons only known to God , He or She has the right to a healthy body because our Lord Jesus Christ paid for it.
Twice it is mentioned in the OT and repeated in the NT,
By His stripes we were healed?
Yes I know there are many natural sickness and there are many who are not healed.
But that does not negate the truth. It never does.
Nice try but that is not what it means. You always like to hide behind "oh it's only spiritual".
The word Heal in this context is rapha. The very same word used when God heal his people in the OT of their physical ailment.
Spiritual always effect the physical. Remember that. That is why the Bible teaches our warfare always start at Spiritual realm first.
But it always affect the physical non the less. Every Christians knows this.
Back in the OT, before Jesus came the people had to suffer the consequences of their own sins and hence was inflicted judgement.
But When Jesus came, IT is by His wounds we were redeemed back to God. Jesus was punished so that we need not.
And time and time again the word Salvation in the greek and hebrew not only encompass Eternal life but everything in wholeness?
The word Soteria means welfare, prosperity, deliverance, preservation, salvation, safety? So Healing is involved?
Its spiritual.
Nice try twisting passages into pretexts.
Do you understand that SIN in the OT is likened to the incurable disease called leprosy.
Go and study in Lev where when God heals a leper, he goes through the elaborate ceremony
which is same for sin offering.
Aug 29 2013, 02:27 PM

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