An incomplete SP guide for those interested in crafting;

http://last-chaos.org/viewtopic.php?t=1412

Bloody hell >.<: That's almost 1.4k sp total for ALL smithing alone. Guess I gotta ramp up the sp farming machine.

2 sets? Heh That's still a better option than going to the bald guy npc for refining. With that dude, 10 sets of any stones or elements is still a NO insurance >.<:

Umm have any of you guys/gals notice that today's lag + dcs is a bit over the top?

@H3dg3h0g
For a rough example;

WHITE mobs = 1k xp, 1k sp xp
YELLOW mobs = 2k xp, 900 sp xp
RED mobs = 2.5kxp, 800 sp xp

So yeah I also agree that if anyone wants to SP farm, it's recommended to do green or white mobs. Although some would suggest yellows also works best, I feel that training on greens and whites cuts the training time a bit, less risky if certain mobs are of aggro types compared to yellows which usually have higher dmgs + defs.

This post has been edited by eq8all: Aug 6 2006, 08:38 PM

@Boyboy
Nice deets there bro I been curious about sand golems. A player in k6 chatted with me before and suggested that when I gain the sufficient level, I should head on to s.golems. It's because of that soft sand quest item is so hard to drop apparently. Now I know it's gonna be white at level 27 "

Yeah at earlier stages when I wanted to start on LC, CubeTech really bummed me out because at that time not even their FTP dl link was working and they host the client on FileFront (FF). I'm not too crazy on FF since those don't work too consistent for me but weirdly enough it worked fine when I dl'ed the client. Hope the guys at CubeTech can upload a BT file for the client instead.

@H3dg3h0g
Good job in posting those helpful links hedgie Hopefully it can cover some bases for any prospective players. Yeah this thread needs more proper posts anyway.

@sniperwolf
Well hope you guys can settle for a channel in good time. I got a growing number of inquiries from those looking for an expert armor smith and I'm keen to refer them to you wolf? I haven't got to suggest to them on the how-tos, terms or service charges but I guess if they're interested enough, they should be able to negotiate things with you. One player from the guild -=Rebirth=- is also looking for any expert weapon smith to craft his level 37 staff. I'll be glad to forward these players to LYN.Alliance from time to time if possible. I'm not looking for any opportunities, it's just a friendly gamer to gamer fun thing .

@jenniferjen
There's this guy in k6 where I'm based at, a knight I think, is a pretty wicked farmer/gatherer. He always open his stall like once every 2-3 nights and sells all quality stones and all elements. No herbs/plants though BUT we're talking in the range of 50-100pcs of quantities for everything and his price is like 500-750 gold ONLY for each o.O. Not a really bad deal I'd say. But unfortunately I must also add that maybe the guy got discouraged by lack of interest by other crafters because he don't seem to be regularly open. I'm hoping that he won't give up on selling crafting materials.

If he ever open the stall again or if there's any other similar offerings by other players, I'll SS them and post it here. Better yet, I'll PM them when I get the chance just to encourage them to farm more, and convince them that there's crafters around in need.

If the CubeTech helpdesk could work any better, they can rest assured now because I'd just submitted what could be the world's longest e-support ticket for their reading pleasure.

The points is quite a lot so I couldn't manage to trim a lot of it down but hey since NO ONE from their side is bothered to spend 15 minutes to update the notices for these issues and God knows that mouse glitch for laptops issues have been there since Day 1 of OB. So yeah they got time to read a few love novels and my ticket for toilet time...=p

@ashchia
Sup ash. Sorry for the late reply and yeah I'm based in k6 too.

The only prob currently is that I'm sporadically on or off and taking a temp break because I'm a bit caught up in reworking my guild's website (umm no mine isn't LYN.Alliance >.<).

On another note, does anyone notice how slow is the Cubetech team in reworking the official website? I've sent 2 emails already for them to look into basic stuff like proper game and stats guides for all classes and a revamped notices section to include features available from the Korean or Japanese versions of LC? Both are pretty much generic ideas that's assumingly thought up by maybe hundreds of players by now...

@siew14
Usually unless if anything goes awry at updates or after maints (it usually have a 50% chance >.<), lag problem would mostly affect our more international friends a bit more than us.

Yeah jen I got around to read the off. notices about those dungeons. Just in time too.

@lazo
Heh We got zaakath, jen aka lav_ender, sniperwolf here and the guys/girl can be better guardians for you. Just scroll up for the previous posts for more deets. So better try to ignore or nicely tell those potential guardian pms off ok?

This is the latest ranks from http://www.playgate.net/
How I figured by http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

Screenie 1;
(to figure which column ranks which category of MMOG, which you can see after you scroll down a bit at playgate's page)


OK so beta MMORPGs are in the LEFT - most column

So when you go to playgate's page, scroll down to those 3 columns;



Just hover the cursor on the top limegreen text for the 1st spot in beta category (that one with 343.47 figures), it's Last Chaos!

This post has been edited by eq8all: Sep 2 2006, 04:09 PM

More than any other at this time, I AM rooting for BOTH Cubetech and LC, but the long way until they get some basics straight is seriously depleting my patience.

Now by basics, I meant char stats for one and stats makes or breaks builds. If it means items dependency to counter this subject for LC, then I'll happily 'hang up' my crystal twinblades definitely...Rappelz is on its way *winks at jen =p*

Every MMOG or LC related fan forum seems to have a more active 'knights' discussions. Not entirely our fault either, if anyone can figure that the chars' stats formulaes are screwed at the moment. And this is applicable to ALL classes in one way or the other actually.

If I recall correctly, there's a 15-17 Dex req for both Royal and Temple Knights' one or 2 skills. OK..granted if it's set to have NO apparent effect till job/class change level (31 for change 32 for skills), but what if it's just a blind req? If LC's Dex would work normally as it should like in other MMORPGs, I don't think I'll be a making a case for this.

LC Korea had been featured on PlayGate.net's ranks since February '06 (gained 3rd place in fact...) and from that we can speculate that while rankings aren't necessarily a good gauge, it's not a short route to get into that 3rd place.

So I'll give and take a good 7 months to a year old (a fair enough assessment as to what our English version is based on..) worth of in-game weaknesses that the English version players are currently being subjected to? Not to mention that content is being phased and betas are run to actually measure players' reception to the game and minor stuff like language conversion errors.

A post in LCdotorg forums suggests that LC Taiwan/HK is phasing OUT potions from NPCs. Is there any confirmation to this or really 50% of LC Taiwan/HK are too leet in alchemy skills or they can regen that good?

This post has been edited by eq8all: Sep 3 2006, 04:42 AM

lol come to think of it, that's already been happening since past month in k6. I don't know or am I entirely sure of which part that makes rogues overpowered but I'm sure as heck that all their 'pre' class change skills are devastating enough.

@sniperwolf
That's where the problem lies with knights. If stats are already screwed systematically, skills can only compensate to what's already flawed. I think it's more fair if royals have not too high default dmgs compared to temples, BUT with far higher offensives and FAR FAR less defs. Dual swords with no added block rating means royals should pwn more if royals are to balance stats with skills.

I'm not saying temples should stick with being mere meat tanks. But in other MMORPGs and even solo RPGs, remember knights or paladins are always with the best party buffs (not as good as mages or sorcs but still...) in terms for phy dmgs and added defs. If there's more skills like that for temples, let's just say temples would be the best option as point guys or girls in any wars. I mean toons with party buffs and can't be killed in 1 hits is a HUGE asset for warring guilds.

Just remember what I've posted before...LC Korea was ranked 3rd at playgatedotnet like 7 months ago. Chances are by now, there's already rampant macroers and exploiters in other versions before (God forbid >.<) it hits in massive scale to the English version.

40+ HS FFS...

What I meant before is *ahem* self acquired application macros or 3rd party ones (specifically bots), not from any built-in game features which is yeah those normal keyboard macros for commands in Lineage 2.

And this previous game I've done which is Priston Tale 4 years ago, pots are dupe-able with NO required 3rd party addons but it was in fact an exploit that went on from 2 years of beta till launch >.<:

Let's hope it won't take that long for LC. HS are WAY more market disrupting than pots.

Not to mention LOL ... I think people would get very annoyed to be suddenly ganked by 5 rogues with +8 dags out of nowhere as additions for unneeded weekly events.

This post has been edited by eq8all: Sep 4 2006, 06:02 PM

My initial expectation(s) from LC was a f2p that can emulate Lineage II's strengths. Although realistically, L2 private shards will always be the better option.

We can't necessarily expect massive castle raids/sieges and/or ultra uniques (boss mob) like valakas like L2 but at least to have crafting available to all races/classes, 'mini' or watered down versions of sieges and territorial or economical means of control for guilds (hence better depth and objective for PvP or wars) with better contents for both soloists and groups.

So far the better (or actually..worse) part of L2 that LC had craptacularly bested is the grind for sp xp. Not to mention that the sp system vs. success/failure rates is hopelessly tied and flawed with more leaning towards failure rates. The final blow is that the system is beginning to instill anxiety for the reason why I'd left Silkroad Online which is...'forced soloing'...in the general play-style of the current player pop.

There's gotta be more to this I hope... LC is still No.1 on playgate.net's 'beta' MMOG ranks. It can't possibly be at that spot with what we currently have.