QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Dec 9 2012, 04:35 PM)
Pardon my ignorance
Are you saying that a candidate who scored in Band 9 of IELTS a few years ago going to college will become less proficient in his / her English upon graduation?
Of course not, it is just that IELTS is not deemed as a valid proof of english proficiency after 2 years. It is the qualification itself that expires, not your english proficiency. I am equally confused why is this happening, but that is the way how it works. BEC would be better as a longer lasting qualification.
There's nothing to apologize, I wasn't really referring to you since you made the distinction after all.
QUOTE(grumpyorang @ Dec 9 2012, 06:02 PM)
If you're still looking for English classes and you are a working professional, you might have to consider that most students in CEFL are younger/in their teens whereas British Council houses more older adults (a lot of internationals). If you don't feel awkward being in a class with younger kids around 15 (I imagine you should be about 10 years older than them), then so be it.
Teaching wise, more teaching staff in CEFL are local Chinese who have apparently obtained some 'teaching' certificate. I can tell you that if you're looking for native English speakers, you can definitely find more of them in British Council.
Location wise, CEFL have more outlets and is more accessible. British Council only have 2 centers in PJ/KL area. State and Jalan Ampang.
Also, bear in mind that you have to sit for a placement test in CEFL. It's not necessary that you'll get into the CPE class (highest level) so you might be placed in the "lower" level with even younger rich kids....also, I think in terms of frequency of exams, IELTS definitely have more exam sittings (can be up to about 4 in a month) whereas you need to study for the CPE for at least 1 year before sitting for it (that is if you're stream to the CPE class at the first place)...sure you have the determination for it?
TS is looking for an institution that offers english language proficiency qualification for working adults. While the teaching quality provided by the British Council may be better, they are not a institution that provides a qualification like BEC. With his current english proficiency, TS may have a hard time trying to get into a CPE class, but he certainly could get into a BEC class.
QUOTE(reconnaissance @ Dec 9 2012, 06:20 PM)
Please, ignorance is a heavy word for ignoramus themselves.
Cambridge refers to Cambridge International Examinations, a segment of the University of Cambridge Local Examination Syndicate (UCLES) branded under Cambridge Assessment, which is a non-teaching department of the University of Cambridge.
All of them are heavy associated with the university itself, and the naming derived from the parental organization, which is the primary University of Cambridge.
Added on December 9, 2012, 6:23 pm
Another follow-up. Intermission may have been mistaken or overlooked that particular detail, but those that accepts and confirms it without research as though they did are even worse.
The teaching is certainly not from University of Cambridge as you stated.
I think you have misunderstood the situation here. When people ask people about classes, what they are concerned is usually the teaching itself. I have never said that CEFL has nothing to do University of Cambridge, nor did I say that it is not a worthy qualification. I was merely pointing out the fact that the center itself does not conduct classes which are taught by tutors from University of Cambridge. Given the high cost of such tuition classes, some people may have such false expectations and therefore this distinction must be made.This post has been edited by Intermission: Dec 9 2012, 10:22 PM