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 The newbie guide to power supply units, Questions and comments are welcomed

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post Jul 28 2013, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Jul 28 2013, 01:18 AM)
assuming all other hardwares are same. will upgrading to a higher wattage but more efficient psu consume more electricity?

eg from a bronze 650W to platinum 860W
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The PSU will draw all the necessary power required. If your rig consumes around 300W of power, the unit will provide with that amount of wattage. Heck, this will make your PSU lasts longer since the PSU load gets lower and runs cooler, and increases efficiency.

Here's an excerpt of my article:
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However, the PSU efficiency is not constant; it changes with respect to how much load on the PSU. Take a look at the efficiency graph of a Cooler Master PSU.
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So, to make it clear, the PSU attains its highest efficiency at around 50% of the load.
That means should I get a PSU such that the peak draw is at 50% of the load? Nope in most cases
The reason behind it is because most of the time your PC is idling. However, there are some exceptions as well, for example, for those folding rigs.


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post Aug 13 2013, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(GBros @ Aug 13 2013, 05:14 PM)
Wrong, I would say the biggest competitor of those top-tier quality brands. biggrin.gif
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When? Price? brows.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Aug 13 2013, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(GBros @ Aug 13 2013, 05:29 PM)
Will appears on the market anytime this month or early next month, confirmed. Pricing will be revised when landed on local market. Almost full line up from lowest to highest end. brows.gif
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post Aug 13 2013, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(GBros @ Aug 13 2013, 05:29 PM)
Will appears on the market anytime this month or early next month, confirmed. Pricing will be revised when landed on local market. Almost full line up from lowest to highest end. brows.gif
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Lowest price? ...and wattage?
Spoil a bit la... tongue.gif
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post Aug 16 2013, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(GBros @ Aug 16 2013, 06:19 PM)
80+ Gold, modular & fair pricing. tongue.gif
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post Aug 16 2013, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(Edifier @ Aug 16 2013, 04:34 PM)
A near perfect score on JonnyGuru's review! " This unit is awesome..." - and that would be our G series 650 watt power supply - more details here:

Seasonic G Series 650W PSU Review
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I have the 550W version... Powers up all my hardware perfectly... brows.gif flex.gif
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post Aug 16 2013, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(GBros @ Aug 16 2013, 08:09 PM)
Most probably at RM249 & RM299 for 500W/600W respectively.
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Whoa... very, very nice price indeed... brows.gif drool.gif
Is the Golden Green is the lowest-end in the lineup? tongue.gif
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post Aug 16 2013, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(mavezai1984 @ Aug 16 2013, 08:17 PM)
299 for 80+ gold modular psu is a no brainer. drool.gif
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With almost Seasonic-like quality.... brows.gif drool.gif
GBros
Got fanless PSU? brows.gif

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post Aug 16 2013, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Aug 16 2013, 11:11 PM)
Here's the PSU Positioning from Super-Flower

Golden Green HX - 80+ Gold
Golden Green - 80+ Gold (Rosewill Capstone)
Golden King - 80+ Platinum (Rosewill Tachyon)
Leadex Gold - 80+ Gold, Full Modular, Lighted connector
Leadex Platinum - 80+ Platinum, Full Modular, Lighted connector*/**
Leadex Titanium - 80+ Titanium, Full Modular, Lighted connector*/**

*Unfortunately certain competitors complaint so these must be marketed as Platinum for now.
**Will come with fully individually sleeved cables on later model. No modding required. Price is for fully sleeved cables

All PSUs come will 5 years 1:1 exchange warranty. Large buffer, short wait time.
All PSUs will be semi modular/fully modular.
No white level, bronze, or silver will be offered. You get the best of the best quality, along with the best possible price.

The only complaint on Super-Flower, which is the "availability" would not apply since all these will be available in Malaysia. The Golden Green HX will be available some time next week or the week after. The Golden Green and Golden King have been offered here for some time under Rosewill branding. Leadex is the new flagship, albeit a bit fancy, will be available in September. Leadex 1000W will be available together with the Golden Green HX though.
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No fanless PSU here... sad.gif
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post Aug 17 2013, 12:22 AM

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post Aug 17 2013, 12:23 AM

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Edited.

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post Aug 17 2013, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(CyntrixTech @ Aug 16 2013, 11:34 PM)
There is:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=...Story5&reid=244

But are you ready to pay RM 599 for this? This is the same as Golden King...but fanless brows.gif
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Prices for all Super Flower PSUs available here? brows.gif

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post Aug 19 2013, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(angah_as @ Aug 19 2013, 12:01 PM)
Hi all PSU expert..
I want to know, if I want to use a low power processor(AMD E350, 25W idle) + high power PSU(true power 550W). the power consumption for the PSU is still depend on the CPU(low power).
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It depends on the CPU... The PSU will supply the required power... wink.gif
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post Dec 16 2013, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Dec 16 2013, 12:27 AM)
bought a Cooler Master 550W Real Power but its so hot when system full load.
but the website mention "Operation Temperature  0~40°(Nominal Input Voltage)"
this is over 40'c,make the room,gpu also increase temperature
what is the temperature when u guys full load ?
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Rig specs? Possibly the unit has been overloaded...
Note that the 550W Real Power has only 360W on the +12V rail... tongue.gif
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post Dec 16 2013, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Dec 16 2013, 09:56 AM)
sorry i got very limited knowledge on psu, and my rig is :

intel g2020
2 x 4gb ram
ati radeon asus 7950
hdd
dvd rom
asrock b75m-dgs r2.0
550W Real Power

how to make sure or test it is overloaded ?

actually i saw the website write there 40'c same with others brand psu.
i am worry if buy another psu also having the problem.
what is you psu temperature ?
thanks
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7950? shocking.gif No wonder la...
You should get a quality unit... Most likely the unit is operating at nearly full load... sweat.gif
The unit may not be able to deliver the rated power at rated temperatures...

I'm surprised that your unit still survives... tongue.gif

My power supply is dead quiet and runs very cool though... It's a Seasonic Gold rated unit BTW...

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post Dec 16 2013, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Dec 16 2013, 10:06 AM)
ya,its full load.
and i am tight budget,and saw the requirement for 7950 is 500w.
since i dont have many hdd or fan so i bought this unit.

do i need to get good brand or high watt psu to solve this problem ?
planning to get corsair cx500
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Quality 500W power supply...
How about the Super Flower Golden Green HX 500W for RM249 from GBRos@Garage Sales?
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post Dec 16 2013, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Dec 16 2013, 10:25 AM)
icic,looking for psu.
Super Flower Golden Green HX 500W RM249
corsair cx500 RM199.
i guess the corsair is fit the my budget.
do u have others suggestion without RM200 ?
thanks thanks
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Not much really... There's the Antec VP550 Strictly, but unfortunately no distributor carry them anymore... sad.gif
The Super Flower unit is better though, and don't skimp on the PSU as this is the 'heart' of your system unit... If it fails and the unit is a cap ayam unit, then your hardware may risk damage...
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post Dec 16 2013, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Dec 16 2013, 02:56 PM)
i am using cooler master 550w,this is not cap ayam and enough watt but why i change to antec vp550,Super Flower Golden Green HX 500W ,corsair cx 500 can solve the heat problem ?
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Not cap Ayam, but the fact is the Real Power series isn't a decent unit.... CX series aren't good either... You are paying for the Corsair brand only..
Most likely the unit is overheating is the fact that the PSU fan used isn't decent, or the fan controller itself is bad. tongue.gif
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post Dec 23 2013, 07:19 PM

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Some interesting findings about the Super Flower Golden Green HX:
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/tra...Df7XG3pHn8qrHsw

This site reviews the 400W unit, but the fact is the Golden Green HX uses CapXon (CrapXon) caps as the main cap.

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Looks like I may not recommend this unit as this unit has subpar caps on the main and secondary, although the unit performs very well...

However, I'm not sure whether the quality of CapXon units has improved, or otherwise... unsure.gif

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post Dec 27 2013, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Dec 27 2013, 09:53 AM)
Very questionable topic and u guys point it out smile.gif .
This review is for the 400W, not sure how about the 500 and 600W units from HX series.
Similar case like FSP Hexa 400W which having bad review, while 500W is still a decent unit hmm.gif .
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Even the 500W unit has CrapXon caps on it... sweat.gif

http://www.playwares.com/xe/32466442

The Leadex do use CrapXon caps, but it is on the Modular board, where there is literally very little/no electrical load most of the time.

Don't get me wrong, even though Super Flower do make nice units, having subpar capacitors on a gold rated unit is simply unacceptable. doh.gif

Update: Even the Super Flower site also said that the HX series use Taiwanese caps, but they should have been used better ones, like Teapo, for example.

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