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PadeGP
post Dec 9 2012, 09:09 PM

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Goooooooooooooooooooool.....
Terbaik giler mahali....


Added on December 9, 2012, 9:11 pmGoopal ooooooo gopal...
Kalo xkerana tekanan & kritikan byk pihak smpai mati la ko xkn guna mahali ni...

Mahali terbaik....


Added on December 9, 2012, 9:16 pm
QUOTE(AKace @ Dec 9 2012, 08:53 PM)
amar dgn style defensive midfield mcm pondan nya

bunyamin. aku pun pelik kenapa thai tak tumpu attack kat flank kiri kita

aku harap second half nanti takde masalah laser. polis dgn rela patut buat kerja baik sikit la
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Aku mmg xpenah suka amar drp 2010 lg.... lembik mcm pondan... keje nk delay bola je... pastu takot nk mintak bola...
Midfield taik mcm tu


Added on December 9, 2012, 9:17 pm
QUOTE(AKace @ Dec 9 2012, 08:53 PM)
amar dgn style defensive midfield mcm pondan nya

bunyamin. aku pun pelik kenapa thai tak tumpu attack kat flank kiri kita

aku harap second half nanti takde masalah laser. polis dgn rela patut buat kerja baik sikit la
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Aku mmg xpenah suka amar drp 2010 lg.... lembik mcm pondan... keje nk delay bola je... pastu takot nk mintak bola...
Midfield taik mcm tu

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post Dec 10 2012, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Prince of Andalus @ Dec 10 2012, 12:58 AM)
OKS ckp posisi bad adalah free role... kiri kanan pergi mcm kat SEA games tahun lepas.. kiri kanan hidup kaki dia..
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Mmg bro.. badd kena bg free role... harap lepas abis aff ni... rajagopal patut try bad main midfield plak.. safiq tu xmampu offer anything except freekick....
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post Dec 10 2012, 09:24 PM

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Please gopal....
Kalo safiq xmenyumbang ape2 khamis ni....
After AFF2012 drop la safiq tu... try pakai combo bad-shakir-gary
Plssss gopal... safiq xmampu offer defensive... xmampu dribble... thru ball hancus..

Plsss gopal plsss......
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post Dec 13 2012, 11:12 PM

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The most overrated player ever.... safiq rahim
Can't dribble
Can't defend
Can't tackle
Can't make thru ball

Only & only rely on freekick...

Amar rohidan?
Nothing to say never like him though we win aff2010 with this guy...
Nothing to offer

Rajagumpal.... stop experiment.. some performer in league should be in the team...
norfarhan
Piya
Roya
Ismail faruki
Ashaari
Shukor adan
Hairuddin omar
Asrarudin
Nazmi faiz
Rozaimi
Fandi othman
Irfan fazail

Tolong gumpal jgn pundek lagi lps ni....
Drop safiq
Drop amar
Drop bunyamin
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post Dec 14 2012, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(nenasoren @ Dec 14 2012, 12:16 AM)
ade orang marah sangat Amar. Kalau ko betul2 teliti game Amar malam ni, banyak wei die contribute. Ada la satu slack goal tu, tapi overall kalau orang yg tengok game secara bijak akan perasan he is one of the anchor yang stop Thai. Yang bercakap kutuk Amar tu main PES je kee kat rumah.
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Bro, aku main universiti... aku main liga selangor. Ada masalah ke?
Takotnyer ko sorg je yg main PES....
Ko adik bradik amar ke yg nk marah sgt org kutuk dia...
Org lain dlm ni sume komen player & gumpal... ko je aku tgk selalu komen pasal org lain punya komen...
Aduyai bro, rilex rr komen masing2.. bior je lah...


Added on December 14, 2012, 11:05 am
QUOTE(aweeff @ Dec 14 2012, 05:38 AM)
Arghhhh sialan ar atitude player Malaysia! Kalau macam ni perangai kau orang.... Mmg terasa lanjiou perjalanan beribu KM aku ke Bangkok! Bangsat! Walaupun ramai kutuk Aidil atas persembahannya atlest dia menghargai kehadiran penyokong yg datang dari jauh.. Yg lain boleh jalannnnnnnnn!!! pukiiiiiii
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Bro aweef,
Patutlah aritu masa lwn loas n indon... player msia g tepuk2 tangan lambai2 peminat almost whole stadium except UM... masa lawan indon aritu yg aku tgk aidil, alex n farizal je p salute kt UM...
Xreti nk hargai peminat setia la player msia ni
Puiiii

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post Dec 19 2012, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(waruna @ Dec 19 2012, 09:31 AM)
Bagi aku pulak, turning point dia masa malaysia kalah dengan spore 0-3. Tapi kat situ sbenarnya klimaks atau penambah perasa selepas 5 siri winless friendlies. tu yg org bengang tu. friendlies lawan 10 org siap xleh menang. jgn kata nak menang, kontrol bola pun tak.

Aku rasa kalau kalah tapi main best, cuma luck je yg tak memihak diorang (eg: kena tiang berpuluh kali, GK lawan banyak saves, etc etc), perkara macam "Rajagobal Apa Yang Kau Buat" ni takkan berlaku..

itu pandangan aku la, org lain tak tau laugh.gif
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aku setuju...
kalo kalah tp leh nampak.. ada gerakan2 cantik.. byk percubaan kearah gol.. permainan tersusun.. midfield control game... kalah gak.. nak wat camne... dh takdir..

ini dh la kalah.. midfield ke laut.. stop ball hancus.. passing hancus... game plan mcm xbrape ada... asek sepak long ball je.. dh la kt depan tu mat yo je.. bkn tinggi mane.. lain la gomez ke drogba ke...

ditambah plak.. ramai yg perform dlm liga x dipanggil... asek muka tu je...

tu sebenarnyer yg org ramai marah....
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post Dec 19 2012, 04:17 PM

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ye ke bg peluang secukupnyer?
joseph kallang bg skali peluang lwn australia xperform.. then terus xpanggil...
adakah ashaari diberi peluang secukupnyer?
bagaimana dgn piya?
nrofarhan langsung tak dipanggil....
nurul roya x dipanggil...
ismail faruki?
shukor adan?
hai o?

kalo safiq n amar xperform byk kali pun.. still dpt main..
tp kalo player lain.. skali x perform.. lgsg xpercaya dh

ooooo gumpal
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post Dec 19 2012, 05:00 PM

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for me ashaari & kunalan.. 2 very different style..
kunalan is like dirk kuyt.. very hardworking.. but offer nothing more.. where ashaari is more like typical 4-3-3 left striker... can shout both left n right... can score left n right.. can dribble.. can make thru ball... a luis garcia type...

xpe la kalo gumpal dh suka sgt kunalan tu... at least kalo ada someone like ashaari... time kite ketinggalan... time perlukan gol leh masukkan ashaari sbg super sub... ini tgk bench.. FAKRI... aduyai...

at least ada hai o and shukor adan... time ketinggalan time perlukan gol.. leh masukkan diorg.. leh start main set piece.. leh start pump bola ke kotak penalti... tp tgk bench.. FAKRI ada.. aduyai

ini yg org ramai meluat sebenarnyer.....

and i still dont think some group of player really gumpal give enough chances
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post Dec 19 2012, 06:30 PM

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Mmg ada yg dipanggil tp xgrab chances... tp kena tgk blk posisi gumpal letak.. kalo salah posisi mcmane nk perform...
Xavi hernandes p letak wing kanan confirm xperform.. lari laju xleh... dribble xleh.. sah2 kwn tu xkn perform... cuba letak midfield.. punya la maut control game control ball... dictate game... bla bla bla...

Sama la suh ashaari main wing kanan.. pastu main 4-4-2... suh lak kwn tu main stail kunalan turun naik turun naik mmg xmo la dia....

Amik baddrol pastu main wing kiri.. mampus la kwn tu xperform....
Tgk OKS letak baddrol box to box midfield.. terus menyinar... terus nampak power giler...
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post Dec 19 2012, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(exkaizen @ Dec 19 2012, 06:35 PM)
Itu pasal xsemua player bleh sesuai dgn tactical coach... smile.gif so mungkin tu parts of the reason... Star2 player yg perform xmain... Kot

Kadang2 coach suruh play odd position so dia boleh ada option kalau benda yg berlaku mcm kes lawan thai hari tu berlaku... Substitution is not always a good option... amar sendiri rasa weird bila main posisi cb... Tu yg gol...[SIZE=7]
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hahahahaha kelas ayat ko bro.. sungguh tajam menikam kalbu
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post Dec 19 2012, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 19 2012, 07:48 PM)
bagi aku tak salah kalau coach drop pemain kalau die takleh ikut tactical expectation. Coach kene pikir the whole balance of the team. bukan pk individual players je.
sebab tu kita takleh judge players nt players based on performance dekat liga semata mata. kelantan main cara lain. terengganu guna cara lain. so lojikla national team pon ada core dier sendiri. mana boleh rojak je masuk national team pastu expect result yang sama.

Xbtol tu bro... sume negara select player based on performance liga.. tiba2 hebatnyer kite pilih sbb lain... very funny...
Mcmane kekuatan seseorg player.. itu tugas coach la nk pikir strategi cmane... taktikal mcmane... kalo xleh pikir strategi yg berkesan baik xyah jadi coach bg ke org lain.

lagi pon keadaan pon langsung tak sama la. dekat liga malaysia boley la player kelantan main relek control game sebab ade time and space. tapi dekat international level, bende tu tak ade. kita tak boleh nak harap dengan individual skill je kita boleh layak tanpa team balance yang tepat.

Ooo sbb ada time n space... bkn sebab hodak pandai guna strategi ke? Masa butler main long ball... masa karathu main long ball...

Masihkah ingat 3 serangkai berbisa one touch football antara ashaari-hadi-manaf yg sgt berjaya oleh irfan bakti... tp napa bila time butler xjadi... sbb taktikal coach lain2...

Kalo sape2 mmg btol2 ikuti team kedah n selangor.... amar bkn 1st choice coach.... safiq selalu je irfan benchkan dia tu...
Tp gumpal amik gak buat core....

nanti result kita akan tgk sama macam 2007. players power gila kot sorang2 sorang dalam liga. tapi bila plug and play dalam national team tak jadi pon. kene belasah jer.


Added on December 19, 2012, 7:54 pm

tak marah bro.  biggrin.gif
aku have to admit aku agak bias pada Amar rohidan. My weakness i guess. i suke underdog unsung hero water carrier people and i think Amar is one of them. Alone die limited. tapi macam gak kunalan die adalah part of the glue that stick the team together.

aku rasa kritikan pada die adalah overboard sebab semata2 die tak buat kerje safiq rahim. yang bersalah di sini adalah safiq. tapi amar yang kene cover. overrall amar sendiri, tackling dan positioning dier bersih. tapi kene kerje overtime nak cover safiq.
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post Dec 19 2012, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(exkaizen @ Dec 19 2012, 08:42 PM)
Aku dah pening... Mane satu bro aressandro reply dgn bro padegp.. tongue.gif


Added on December 19, 2012, 8:45 pmBtw... Kita mmg lain dr nt negara lain.... NT negara lain develop by club... Tp negara kita... Team negeri atau club harapkan player harimau muda... So of course la coach yg handle harimau muda mcm rg pilih player yg dah lama dgn dia berbanding player lain.... Dia hanya akan ambil player lain kalau proven lebih better dr player dia dr kacamata dia... Mcm alex, wan zack...

So kalau aku... Aku salahkan team negeri yg xde proper youth development to supply players for NT..... Kalau team negeri boleh supply player... Xde la team mcm harimau muda wujud... Kalau ada as the name je... Tp player supply still from negeri...
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Tp kena ingat btol2 bro... alex terpilih sbb pemain kesayangan gumpal injured last minit.... alex dh blk phg bro ngan gopi siap tweet ucap selamat berjaya kpd harimau malaya....

So kesimpulan dia kalo player lain nk tumpang merasa main malaysia... player2 kesayangan gumpal kena injured la...
Kasik safiq injured... kasik amar injured... kasik fakri injured... baru la org lain dpt tumpang merasa sarung jersi negara

Oooo gumpal....

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post Dec 19 2012, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Dec 19 2012, 08:52 PM)
tak tau lak aku coach kena ikut corak permainan players..bukan the other way around..hahaha pelik  biggrin.gif
aku baca smp 2013 je.
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Bro, ko salah paham kenyataan aku... setiap player kena ikut arahan coach.. taktikal coach...
Tp utk coach terapkan taktikal dia... dia xleh syok sndiri... kena tgk kekuatan n kelemahan yg setiap player dia ada.... itu maksud aku...
Meh aku eleborate lebih sket... contoh mudah... kalo amik kunalan... sesuai ngan open game.... dia bole bwk bola laju smpai hujung corner flag.... kalo kite ketinggalan let say 2-0 meaning opponents dh main close game... 10 player behind ball... defend ramai dlm kotak... space jd kecik n sempit... dlm keadaan n situasi mcmni... adakah perlu lg kunalan... aku rasa x. Sbb time mcmni kite perlukan player yg bole work out dlm angle yg kecik n sempit... time mcmni kite perlukan player mcm ashaari ke joseph kallang tie ke... itu maksud aku....

Bila dh desperate sgt 10 minit lg tinggal... ketinggalan 2-0 sesuai la cari set piece... pump bola ke gol... tp apakah kejuboran nyer bila pump bola yg ada kt depan mat yo je.... sbb tu masa mcm ni kite perlukan hairuddin omar or player yg sewaktu dgnnyer...

Itu maksud aku........ ooooo gumpal
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post Dec 19 2012, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Dec 19 2012, 09:09 PM)
masalahnya ko tadi cakap lain..amik ashaari pastu suh dia main lari mcm kunanlan...

haizzz pening aku.

coach datang : ok aku nak korang main cmni ---> pastu dia buang la player yg dia rasa x sesuai dgn taktik dia..
xda taktik paling perfect dalam dunia ni derr..aku igt lg France lwn Spain baru2 ni..pergh posession spain xyah cakap la . pastu nak dekat habis france masuk kan giroud..tetiba lak score 1-1

takde taktikal perfect..tiki taka ke total football ke..tu semua sedap mata memandang la. Mana holland naib juara world cup? hilang di euro... lemas..tenggelam...

aik?? coach sama..player sama?? apa alasan tetiba boleh out? player pon x injured? main total football semua bergerak..haaa
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Pandai ko spin ayat aku bro... bila masa aku ckp amik ashaari pastu suh dia main lari mcm kunalan...
Ape yg aku ckp dh coach dh tau ashaari type player bkn suka sgt drop bwh giler2 turun bantu defend.. sbb tu dia xnampak perform bila diberi peluang...
Ape yg perlu coach kena pandaikan situasi dgn kelemahan n kekuatan player tersebut....

Mcm aku ckp sebelum ni la terpulang la gumpal nk amik sape main team dia...
Nk amik safiq n amar pastu yg lain sume adik bradik dia... pak sedara dia... menantu dia... abg ipar dia... lantak la kalo itu yg mampu sesuaikan ngan taktikal dia...

BUT.... kalo xperform xdpt result... ko kena jwb la.. itu saja... ape yg susahnyer....

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post Dec 19 2012, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Dec 19 2012, 09:29 PM)
rasanya kalau hendak dipanjangkan lagi cerita, walaupun mereka gagal untuk ke pusingan seterusnya, para peminat Oranje masih menaruh harapan kepada encik Bert van marwijk,namun persatuan bolasepak diraja belanda memutuskan untuk mencari jurulatih baru

manakala di Malaysia.... laugh.gif
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Biasa la bro... malaysia ni sindrom umno.... kite kena bersyukur dgn yg byk berjasa pada negara... bla bla bla...
Jgn buat perubahan... nanti rosak negara... bla bla bla....
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post Dec 19 2012, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(azfamy @ Dec 19 2012, 09:40 PM)
Don't mistook my points bro. When I say 'not surely fail', i don't mean 'surely pass'. Dlm kata lain, I meant, 'tidak semestinya (akan) gagal', bukannya 'semestinya tidak (akan) gagal'.
And the 'gap' I was talking about is the gap in quality between OKS 1st eleven and his subs (i.e. gap within the team). Bukan gap antara team kita & team lawan.
Fine lah if RG have better record. Tapi kan dlm mana2 prospectus ada ckp "past history is not a gerenti of future performance". Ramai jugak selection dia yg aku agree with sbrnya e.g. Fadhli, Mahali, Asrar, Guru, Gary, Wan Zack, Baddrol, Wan Zack, Safee, Mat Yo, Shakir (the striker). But I just can't accept the fact that Safiq is undroppable, and not even to the bench!!
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Agree with u bro...
Kalo duk asek sebut sejarah lama je... asek sebut kemenangan lama ye... kejayaan lama ye... susah la gitu xkn maju ke mane2 la...
Xleh pecat sebab byk berjasa... susah la kalo pemikiran gitu...
Pecat bkn bermakna x kenang jasa seseorg... but life has to move on with new ideas new principal...


Added on December 19, 2012, 9:50 pmGuys,
Kul 10 mlm ni.. channel 801.. rancangan formasi bincang pasal harimau malaya bersama richard scully n rizal hashim...

Best ni...

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post Dec 19 2012, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(nenasoren @ Dec 19 2012, 10:09 PM)
Thailand pun x dapat main sedap kat padang artificial tu, tapi congrats la Singapore pandai eksploit kekuatan masing2.

Apa opinion pasal Matyo? Aku macam deep inside kurang sikit dgn dia ni sebab dia mcm tak masuk dengan game team. Dia ok dribble, create chance sendiri.. tapi still tu je ah. Create chance sendiri or create satu dua chance orang lain. Dia tak involve sangat dgn style direct attacking Raja. Macam Safee, walaupun dia ni finishing tetiba teruk, tengok positioning dia, cara dia lari off ball, memang kena dengan game Malaysia. Matyo bagi aku macam a luxury we dont need. Power, skillful, tapi can backfire our own gameplay.

Toksah la kait bola dengan politik. Nampak sangat kurang bijaknya diri awak tu. Sekian terima kasih!
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Ehhhh nk smash plak...
Xpuas hati habaq la bro...
Forum bola nk suka2 luahkan perasaan.. masing2 punya pendapat ikut la.... poyo lebih lu bro!!!!
ape kata lu pm aku no hp lu bro.... kite sembang berdua plak sedap sket...

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post Dec 19 2012, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(azfamy @ Dec 19 2012, 11:16 PM)
My opinion. Since i feel Msia should play 451 or its variation, so ada 1 spot jer for an out-and-out striker. Assuming dua2 on-form, I will pick Safee over MatYo. Like u said about Safee, better off the ball runs, good build and strength, good aerial, more direct, less fancy, a more complete striker. More suited in a lone striker formation with direct play. Syakir pon nampak style cam Safee sket, ada potential.

MatYo sesuai main off the main striker mcm dlm formation kegemaran RG 442. MatYo skillful tapi kenkadang unnecessarily slows down the attacking momentum when u want to be more direct. Kawan2 dah siap berlari naik atas, dia nak try beat a player plak. By the time dia out-dribble his opponent, musuh dah mark kawan2 yg lari tadi. Note that Mayo suka try to out-dribble lawan from a (static) standing start, which is slow. On the bright side, he can  judiciously use his dribbling ability to hold the ball, e.g. when isolated alone upfront and need to wait for cavalry.

Tapi tu lah, nak drop Mayo ni sensitif sket, nanti ramai fans mengamok plak.  sweat.gif
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agree bro


Added on December 19, 2012, 11:26 pm
QUOTE(nenasoren @ Dec 19 2012, 11:16 PM)
Uuuh. Takutnye dekat awak yang sorang tu. sembang kosong laa gayanyaa deme ni. Perwira papankunci tahap ke sebelas namanya ni. Ko ni aku dah samakan tahap hackline je. Bezanya hackline borak dalam forum fokus kalau pasal bola dia borak pasal bola bukan politik kehkeh. Dah ko nak borak ape pun masing2 punya hal laa malas layan ko dah.

Kembali pada bola, aku agree dengan brader Azfamy ni. Matyo suka dribble dari standing start. Orang cam ni actually bes kalau dia dalam team OKS, yang main possession kaw kaw. Kalau direct macam tak penting sangat la bagi aku.

Datuk Subahan ada cakap nak drop players yang down masa AFF. midfield aku tak kesah sangat, tapi harapnya dia jangan drop Apek. Apek silap sikit jee time first game tu gila tak adil kalau kene drop.


Added on December 19, 2012, 11:18 pmPlus, aku rasa kalau pasal drop Matyo tu fans tak ngamuk dah.. bukan kelate doh diooo
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sembang kosong x sembang kosong...
kalo brani pm aku no hp lu bro.. kite tgk sapa sembang kosong sape sembang berisi..
org hulur kita sambut....


Added on December 19, 2012, 11:29 pm
QUOTE(iconia17 @ Dec 19 2012, 11:23 PM)
4-4-2 is a good formation. provided our midfield 2 is very strong and have excellent off ball positioning.

but still 4-5-1 is the way to go. we have the like of irfan gary, nazmi coming through the ranks. not to mention gurusamy comeback. he own the midfield vs SG when we defeat them last time. safiq can still prove everyone is wrong. we have experience with the likes of piya and zairo. Ismail faruqi still can improve. this is just a waste of talent if we keep playing 4-4-2

forgot shakir also there. damn who say we dont have talent?zz
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btol tu bro.. actually kite byk midfield berkualiti..


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post Dec 21 2012, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(jijul84 @ Dec 21 2012, 08:04 AM)
Team Malaysia FC ‏@TeamMalaysiaFC

'Saya akan memilih pemain yg cemerlang di Liga Malaysia sahaja selepas ini.'- Rajagobal

- Finally.
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hahahahhaahahaha gumpal berkata2....
ntah btol ntah tidak kite tgk pasni...
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post Dec 23 2012, 03:07 PM

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Aku mmg xsuka giler babi kt si gumpal ni.... xsuka lgsg amar n safiq sejak 2010 lg...

Bila aku ckp dlm n kite main teruk xda sistem xnampak cara main bola yg tersusun.. ada hamba Allah dlm ni ckp poya nk main tiki taka la bla bla bla...

Mmg bg aku gumpal ni aku xbrape nampak game plan dia... main pump ball je...
At least kalo kalah tp main tersusun main nampak game plan.... midfield distribute bola cantik.... ok la lg compare dh la kalah main mcm gampang....

Tp still subra salah... bkn gini cara nk yer... ini lg akan hancurkan keharmonian kem negara...

Ape la bodo flying spaghetti monster ni ... ape ko ckp tu sume btol.... tp aduyai



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