no need to send RMA... clearly it's not official charger... get back to your seller see if his willing to give you the original charger... or else, it's no use... and if you're willing to fork out some money, go grab the original charger at shop...

I'm worry more about BSOD later due to the throttling...

been contemplating to buy it on steam or not since yesterday... 25% discount right now on steam... not sure if Asian region of the store has the same offer or not... should be the same....

I dont have any issue on the screen, though you can feel it a little bit soft on keyboard.... but it's nothing serious... it won't break that easily...

except for the screen bezel... somehow the bezel deformed a little bit... must have been newly developed defect coz I didn't notice it before...

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it's not really an issue but merely a discomfort among us thinking the HDD is working at such high temperature... easily solved by moving the HDD to ODD if you have concerns...

Y500 in Malaysia is FHD as well...

actually its not overkill... when I was on my desktop, I can't seem to be able to fill up 8GB RAM so I assumed something similar on laptop as well... so I figured, well 8GB is enough for me... what happen is, on few occasions (which happens to me more often than not) the 8GB is filled to almost to the brim!!! and at one time, after I played games I checked the memory usage, it's almost 100% while gaming!!! so, I would say 16GB is not overkill and 8GB is just enough...

I do go around looking for the answer, one thing that I think that might cause this is that even though nVidia has dropped the name of TurboCache, I think the technology of using system memory for frame buffer is still present on laptop GPUs similar to AMD's HyperMemory... the difference is that AMD is honest about it telling their customer that the GPU does indeed equipped with the tech, but nVidia keep it quiet... I can't find it in any spec sheet... but the evidence seems to be pointing that they do have TurboCache in their GPU... though it's only my theory coz I can't find the definitive evidence on this (and I'm not bother to look deeper... ) and my friend did mentioned the same thing as well...

another occasion that always hit high memory usage for me is whenever I'm downloading games from Steam... I dont know why Steam used so much memory while downloading and slowing my whole system down (though I would say the part to be blamed for the slow system is the HDD), but the memory usage can hit 90%...

so, unless you're using your laptop only for office stuff + surf the net I'm pretty sure you'll feel 8GB is just nice... anything less is unfavorable... luckily, it's easily upgradable...

if I'm not mistaken, malaysian unit only come with 2nd GC right? you can buy seperately if you want the other stuff...

Stock is 1.35V? I didn't know this...

anyway, it is said that DDR3L (1.35V) is backward compatible with DDR3 (1.5V)... So, if it's mixed DDR3L will run with 1.5V. I can't say for sure for this, maybe you want to refer to someone else as well... I might be wrong.

that's some ultra low voltage there... I checked mine both module is running at 1.5V... hmmm...

though, I just realized that my memory module is mixed... one is 1600MHz, one is 1333MHz... luckily it runs perfectly so that would mean the system can take 1600 + 1333...

yeah, that's why I'm kind of angry...

I dont bother to check that time coz I figured "A Lenovo tech guy should know their spec better than me"... well, can say it's my ignorance on that part when I know all along only 10% of tech guy in a computer shop really know about computer...

luckily the system can accept the difference... well, I might just go buy pair 8GB 1600 when I'm back in Malaysia perhaps...

I think the OKR on Win8 doesn't have the creation of factory image... only current image I think... Ive heard this multiple times as well...


My "Games" metro apps always crash, like 95% of the time... though I dont bother to find the reason why coz it's not critical for me... I barely on metro nowadays other than getting my apps list... but I believe it happens after certain update... coz I dont experience any crash when I first install win8...

Nope, Y500/Y400 got the official caddy for UltraBay... Y580/Y480 can use any third party caddy available on the market...

while I agree I find that the Lenovo apps are useful, but you might be wrong of them "not running on their own" or "take up memory"... they do take up memory, just it doesn't take a lot... and some people actually bothered with the boot time caused by them...

Anyway, if you want to download them you can always go to the website and download the utilities... it's available.

I think the reason Lenovo goes that way for their OKR is because of built-in Win8 recovery already provide the "Reset to Factory" though I think that could mean you lost temporarily all the Lenovo apps until you download and install them again...

Go to the shop and claim back, that would mean I'm still stuck with 8GB then... Well, with Steam downloading games consuming 90% of the memory, I dont really feel like it... it's like, "not future proof"...

I do write about how laptop's RAM usage is different from desktop in last few post (i think it's last page) and that's the reason I dont like the idea of 8GB on laptop... it is just enough for me... plus, I tend to multitask a lot... Chrome with multiple tabs is always open, media player in the background, and then gaming as well, I tend to use a lot of memory in one session...

some will think 16GB is overkill, for me it's not...

now I remembered I have hundreds RAW image need to be processed as well...

If you're using 5400 rpm mechanical HDD, i think that's normal... I do experience that when download speed reached >1.5MB/s (sometimes, I think my download speed is capped because of HDD )

but if you're using SSD, maybe you want to check what's using the disk too much...

This post has been edited by mrl: Feb 16 2013, 11:28 AM

before I own this laptop, I thought the performance is comparable... heck, even the benchmark score only differ somewhere around 200points in 3dMark11 compare to my previous desktop (Core i7-2600K SandyBridge, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, GTX550Ti). I can't seem to be able to run it on the extremities, the worst I squeeze the juice is when I do video encoding (which I didn't do a lot), photo conversion (from RAW to JPG) and gaming (well, only the graphic is squeezed though)... I can't get a lag with that system...

on this laptop, Steam download is good enough to send me to my TV while waiting for the game to install

but still this is a great laptop... will I get another Lenovo's performance line up in the future? sure I am...

Haha... it's just to tell ppl that the performance isn't comparable... pure performance desktop still wins.... the benchmark scores sure can lie... probably because the benchmark doesnt tell the whole story of usage....

From my experience on both OS, if you find win7 is faster it just means win7 is easier to navigate. Though I guess that's the whole story of an OS...

I just plug my mouse on the left and keyboard on the right last time... nowadays I end up using all USB already... but yeah, on the right side it's very messy with wire... but that's better than it happens on left side... vent could get obstructed...

other than travelling, I remove the battery. Reason is simple, to prolong the baterry life...

the heat from the laptop sure will shorten the already short battery life...

last time I checked, newegg malaysia actually order stuff from newegg US well... you can order from newegg through newegg malaysia by filling up the order forms they provide last time. though I'm not so sure if that's still the case... been some time I checked them out...

At first i played on this setup as well and no need to say much, it is very uncomfortable for hand to withstand that heat especially for someone that comes from desktop scene... i will recommend external keyboard if you game for long time... i myself pick up nostromo in the end to avoid the heat...

have you checked the BIOS that it will select USB for boot?

I would say check for a sealed box.

but if you still want to check, compare the spec against the official spec from lenovo website (I think we have it at the front page?) or from the box and you can use Device Manager to check the hardware and compare it...

regarding this, I would say no one will recommend you to upgrade... even I as win8 user will have a hard time to recommend you the upgrade...

not because it's bad... but it takes some time to get used to the new interface... some people can't even get used to it and stop using it...

the best recommendation is, find some way to use it without activating it (i think release preview is still valid...) and try it yourself... if you don't like it, you can revert back without wasting hundreds... mind you that Win8 Pro upgrade version is super expensive now...

I think I got a little mix up here... sorry for confusion...

you'll have to buy a Win7 laptop by 31st Jan 2013 to get RM50 Win8 upgrade...

And after you buy the laptop, you have to buy upgrade by 28th Feb 2013... so, yeah... you're right... it's until 28th... no extra fee needed (guaranteed if you register for the upgrade on your own... shop might take fee, I dont know... maybe, maybe not... but they should not...)

for Dota 2, I dont know if Nostromo is suitable... it can be if you're willing to spend some time configuring the Nostromo to your liking... the lack of keys is what makes it a little bit painful in competitive and fast pace games, I guess... Logitech keypad has more keys but it's use more or less the same with Nostromo...

if configuring, testing and getting used to new config is not your thing, I'd say stay away from keypads and get full keyboard instead... having an x-input compatible gamepads (xbox360 gamepad for windows) is the more reason to stay away from Nostromo as it has some driver conflicts against few numbers of games... plus the latest driver isn't compatible with Windows 8 that you'll need an older driver to run it on Win8 and I dont think Razer is going to release a Windows 8 compatible driver ever given their reputation with softwares and the newly release Orbweaver....

so, if you still want a keypad get the latest Orbweaver (which is uber expensive) or get the logitech's keypad (i dont know if it's still in the market)... else, go for full keyboard... that's my suggestion...

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