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post Dec 5 2012, 07:23 PM, updated 13y ago

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Mr Tan Soo Min aka tsmin84 selling a Alienware M11x R2. Last Wednesday (28 Nov) I bank in RM 1250 for the M11x. The day before bank in, we discuss a little. I did sms him and call him. I ask him does he have previous record of selling stuff. He give me a number, the person name (Rashidi Awang Abu) and what he sold (Aspire 4743).

So I give him a call, he sound nice and fine. He said he operate CC and HP shop. i ask him to cod at my location but he couldnt because got business. So he offer me to use Nationwide courier to post the laptop and he will cover the cost as well. So the next day I bank in to him. So i ask him to give me tracking number after post the laptop.

On nov 29 he sms me "otw to office sending u later. dont worry already send" . so I ask him to give me tracking number again, he replied "bro my man will forward to you" . At 8:45pm night, he give me a code " cd 152056688my " . I buy and sell a lot in lowyat. So I know this is poslaju tracking number. Not nationwide. Then 10:11pm he sms "sorry i think they send wrong code. urs was nationwide. will forward to you later on". after few hours i sms him "how is it" few times already.

On nov 30 he sms me, "sorry for the late, im on my way to office get it for u the code. I might send it to u before 1:30pm, or do inform me if u receive parcel ". after two hours i sms him how is it, he replid "30min". In 1:30pm, he said "bro really sorry.. im getting mistake dis time. my man today only send ur item. im so sorry on that, pls gv me ur acc. I will rebate rm50 for my mistake. ur item code cd 174414078 already send out just now. im sorry "

at this time i already think he is very fishy. i reply him, are u sure u use nationwide. the code is invalid. he reply me using poslaju coz nationwide we cant send out by today.

at the end of the day, never rebate, no email me the slip.

Dec 1, he say if still not rcv today. i will refund to me and he say seriously have post. The code until now also I couldnt track.

Dec 2, he say he will transfer the money from CIMB to my Maybank account by today and give me a reference number. As I didn't encounter transfer before. I don't know what to do with reference number. He told me he use GIRO transfer which need 2 to 3 working days for me to receive

Dec 3, he ask me did I receive the parcel. Obviously NOTHING !! he tell me he will go check it by tomorrow morning and he asked CIMB, told me that I will receive my payment after 6pm.

Dec 4, he told me he just called CIMB and ask me to wait until tomorrow morning. If not the amount will return to his account and he will withdraw and bank in for me.

Dec 5, I still haven't receive any money. 4:18pm he say he in CIMB now withdraw money and I might have it before 5:30pm.
4:40 pm he told me his friend going to bank in RM900 for me and after 7pm will be another RM400.

Just now 6:09pm he say he will get the money later, the guy (not sure who) are on the way.

His phone number: 012 5098 139

CIMB number: 07350007643521

Still can call in but not one answer, just reply my SMS



Forumer you are complaining against: tsmin84 aka Mr Tan Soo Min

Item being sold/bought: M11x R2

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2601702&hl=

Date of transaction: 28 Nov

This post has been edited by Xirality: Dec 5 2012, 07:54 PM
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post Dec 5 2012, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(ali_boulala @ Dec 5 2012, 08:36 PM)
dudeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
hes a newbie...
always practice COD when dealing with member <1 year
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im so stupid sad.gif
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post Dec 5 2012, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(ali_boulala @ Dec 5 2012, 08:49 PM)
next move - police report.
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is it effective? the other buyer also have same problem.


Added on December 5, 2012, 9:33 pm
QUOTE(ekudz @ Dec 5 2012, 09:11 PM)
never trust a newbie ... especially in selling things .. please do COD 1st ..
TS, this mistake is rookie mistake
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think in a bright side, luckily not 10k lost. btw, the seller number still can call in, no pick up

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post Dec 6 2012, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(ChooseACase @ Dec 5 2012, 10:49 PM)
After seeing your case here, bro. I try to dig dig for you, and i found something fishy here.
one of the thread created by tsmin84
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2600351&hl= selling this acer aspire. The photo is taken from
http://benyouhui.it168.com/home.php?mod=sp...o=album&id=6150 ( baolianliang )- china -  so mean he is stealing picture from this guy.
In this thread he posted the ad   Nov 23 2012, 04:42 AM, and he get pm from http://forum.lowyat.net/user/ideal2u @  Nov 23 2012, 10:28 AM
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
and item sold @  Nov 24 2012, 08:13 AM , this is so fast.
And look furthermore inside, i found that tsmin84 and ideal2u might be the same guy !!!
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The way of typing of this 2 person is almost the same as you can see here. I
n the most weird part they log off the same time !!!
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Maybe you will need to ask admin to check their ip. Hope this info can help you.
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omg! yah! i got another number. which i get from another buyer. he said he open cc and hp shop also. but when i ask him is it mr tan soo min and say is ideal something i cant hear clearly , he say no. he say he only use maybank and another bank! wtf

so the one i call is also the ideal guy i speak with just now!

edit: the another buyer, he bought rm600 cpu from another chinese forum. but he also havent receive. his location in kl as well.

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post Dec 6 2012, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(ChooseACase @ Dec 6 2012, 01:16 AM)
Bro, i understand you are a trader, but seem like you are not doing your homework before you bank-in the money.
after i search about the alienware u know what i found. http://obsoletegamer.com/the-alienware-m11x-r2-review/
He got the notebook photo from here.
Anything this Tan soo min sound like a women name to me, i don't think is the real culprit name. Try search the name using the 2 phone number you got. 0125098139- tsmin84 0164612555- ideal2u
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haiz ya. i blame myself for that. this is the first and last time i do postage. next time all COD.
tomorrow i will update the address for his shop and link from the another buyer. let just call him Winson.




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post Dec 6 2012, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(ChooseACase @ Dec 6 2012, 01:16 AM)
Bro, i understand you are a trader, but seem like you are not doing your homework before you bank-in the money.
after i search about the alienware u know what i found. http://obsoletegamer.com/the-alienware-m11x-r2-review/
He got the notebook photo from here.
Another thing this Tan soo min sound like a women name to me, i don't think is the real culprit name. Try search the name using the 2 phone number you got. 0125098139- tsmin84 0164612555- ideal2u

This is the info i got from Cari.com
http://cforum4.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=v...ead&tid=2916562

    * 真实姓名        :  JENNY ANG HUI PHENG
    * 联络电话号码  : 016-4612555
    * 电邮/Msn      : jenny@ideal2u.com
    * 地址              : 2A-SH-04,
      LINTANG HAJJAH REHMAH
      11600 JELUTONG
      GEORGETOWN,PULAU PINANG
157036568009
maybank

Please Asap to go to make police report.
I think you better contact with this jenny ang to check who is this tan soo min.
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http://www.tagter.com/web/about_us.asp?fid=&web=ideal2u-YK

His name is start with Teo
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post Dec 6 2012, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(ChooseACase @ Dec 6 2012, 01:37 AM)
You mean he told you his name is Winson? can i have the exact Cimb account you bank in- such as full name and account no. I try to help you check with my member in Cimb Bank.
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no no. the other buyer he told me in nov 28 is not actually a malay. is a chinese call winson. he buy two cpu from this guy and also havent receive. he bought earlier than me.

the cimb number is on my first post. Name: Tan Soo Min

thank you so much bro. need to hunt this man down before many ppl get scam!


Added on December 6, 2012, 1:44 am
QUOTE(ChooseACase @ Dec 6 2012, 01:42 AM)
How you bank in to him ?? do you keep record ? The full name of the Cimb account holder you bank into is ?
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yes. cimb receipt is with me

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post Dec 6 2012, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Dec 6 2012, 01:48 AM)
TS, your location in Penang as well? which area?
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sunway subang. if im at penang sure find this fella!
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post Dec 6 2012, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(ChooseACase @ Dec 6 2012, 01:47 AM)
I think this Tan soo min belongs to a girl. I will check it out for you.
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Added on December 6, 2012, 2:07 am
QUOTE(StratOS @ Dec 6 2012, 01:59 AM)
You can PM the seller and let him know about this dispute. If he didnt show up then just make police report with all the evidence you have got in your hands.. thumbup.gif

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OT:

Not sure is his dupe or not but this davidsakir guy is quite suspicious also..

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...sult_type=posts

Can check he ask people PM best price since he join yesterday 10:09PM till 10:15PM. Recorded total of 12 PM best price post in 6 minutes.  sweat.gif
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dafuq! maybe he want help bump thread rclxub.gif

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post Dec 6 2012, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Dec 6 2012, 02:12 AM)
After some checking, this is all related

tsmin84

Ykay84

ideal2u

And all of them is a dupe of real person here

teoyeku
I hv check teoyeku sales thread and i found his phone number

0174366666 (SOURCE)

From there i found this

user posted image
SOURCE

If, u do check the products he sell, just similar as what u found earlier

user posted image
SOURCE
After that, i google tan soo min in FB, and luckily i found him (Yes, he is a guy, judging from the profile pic)

user posted image
SOURCE

How do i confirm he is the TAN SOO MIN we talking about? I check his fren list,

user posted image

And YK TEO is in his fren list.

user posted image
SOURCE

So, either Tan Soo Min has been used, or they really gang up together to scam, we dont know about that.

But, what i do know, they are close fren at least (Check the chat box), and i guess thats is the Cyber Cafe he talking about on his sales.

user posted image

And this is how teoyeku looks like

user posted image
Not enuf to believe? Recognize this?  thumbup.gif

user posted image

I guess none of the address is his, but this might be closed
SOURCE

as you can see the ad posting using his main number, 0174366666 from his main acc here, teoyeku

So, good luck TS. Report them both or we see what he will respond.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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man. this is deep. first time encounter scam. dono where to start from. actually im a sabahan just come kl to study. stay in kl for few months only. apis where is ur location? perhaps we can discuss with Winson( the other victim) together report
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post Dec 6 2012, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(johnny82 @ Dec 6 2012, 07:14 AM)
who is the bank account under?
i think ts should just private msg the friends
ask him bring the culprit out
else all their name go polis
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now i still dont know which fella scam me. so many people. I think this weekend I will meet up with that winson.


Added on December 6, 2012, 7:53 am
QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Dec 6 2012, 06:55 AM)
Not a cent bro. Err.. why?
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is it a good idea if I sms warn them I will lodge police if not giving me back the money? Telling them I have all their details.


Added on December 6, 2012, 7:55 am
QUOTE(Nyanmaru @ Dec 6 2012, 03:51 AM)
seriouslybroh,sorry for u.but u shouldnt have made the purchase when seeing his post count.

if u see some people here,they put their succesful transaction customer's list.that is proof that he is indeed a seller,not a scammer.

if buying from someone with no record,COD is the only option.

btw,lodge a police report.if can get an address from him paste it in /k/.we will help you brows.gif
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this will be the last time I buy from postage unless they have more than 10 successful tradelist.

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post Dec 6 2012, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 6 2012, 08:25 AM)
Go and make police report 1st la!
Before you get more hurt!
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i will do it this weekend or tomorrow. this week busy with test sad.gif


Added on December 6, 2012, 10:19 am
QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Dec 6 2012, 09:50 AM)
Yes thats a gud idea ts. Let them know. Pm teoyeku about this thread.
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okay. pming him now.


Added on December 6, 2012, 10:20 am
QUOTE(reijikageyama @ Dec 6 2012, 08:48 AM)
I got a Mutual friend with Gigawhite Black. I'll check with my friend and see how it goes, will PM you about any updates.
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looking foward from you. thanks rclxms.gif


Added on December 6, 2012, 10:26 amAlready pm all account and number. Waiting for their reply. I told them tomorrow is the last day for them to refund me.

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post Dec 6 2012, 12:16 PM

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UPDATE: Just now 0164914555 Mr Teo call me. He say Tan Soo Min is using his identity.

Mr Teo open CC before and Tan Soo Min is his ex worker. Now the CC is sold and all the PC is sold. Last left 2 unit Tan Soo Min is sold to another buyer (Winson).

And about the alienware. He say that laptop is long time ago. But he didn't mention to me the laptop is with him or sold already or not.

Now he is going to find Tan Soo Min for using his identity (open CC and HP shop)
Mr Teo say he have a police friend and just now Mr Teo ask about my detail (got bank in slip or not, when bank in etc)

Hope I'll be getting my money back soon.
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post Dec 6 2012, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Dec 6 2012, 12:22 PM)
Dont get too excited 1st bro.. dont cool down until u see your money in.
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because I sms him telling that I got all their details and warn them. but i didn't tell him this thread. the account tsmin could be run by his ex worker Tan Soo Min.

Yesterday I call him mention who is Tan Soo Min, he say don't know. Just now when he call me, he say suddenly remind him of his ex worker Tan Soo Min

edit : I sms to all the phone numbers. lol

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post Dec 6 2012, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Dec 6 2012, 01:29 PM)
Just proceed with your police report to push them. Many case like this, false hope from seller to make sure you wont bother to do a police report or at least drag you to not do a police report.

No need to give face on this case, just make a police report. OR you can do it this way, give him a time frame when to refund you. No money in then do police report. thumbup.gif
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yup. I give him time frame until tomorrow. If no, I meet up with another victim to do report in police station.
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post Dec 6 2012, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Dec 6 2012, 01:32 PM)
Remember to update the first post with the scan or picture image of the police report as prove to the seller you have made a real report. icon_rolleyes.gif
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sure will. now waiting update from those numbers. vmad.gif
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post Dec 6 2012, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(funnybone @ Dec 6 2012, 01:50 PM)
I think you can get paid really well by being a web investigator...your work is awesome thumbup.gif
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THANKS ABANG APIS ! biggrin.gif


Added on December 6, 2012, 5:55 pmUPDATE : The boss (Mr Teo) said he went to his house, nobody there. And within today and tonight he will find him out. There are 3 victim total up he said.
Me, Winson and another malay guy also from KL. Tonight he will update if there's anything.

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QUOTE(ChooseACase @ Dec 6 2012, 09:21 PM)
I think you should contact Tan soo min in facebook also, i got a feeling Yeo is behind all these thing here. They are closed friend, how can he "forgotten" him and remind of him suddenly.
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Just now Winson called me how the situation going. We decided to lodge police report tomorrow if tonight we couldn't get the money.
If they have the will to give us back, they already did. We don't care Teo or Tan Soo Min which one of them cheat us, we report both of them.
Too many lies.


UPDATE: Promise to bank in RM250 cash + RM500 cheque as he not enough cash and another RM500 settle within next week friday.


Added on December 8, 2012, 12:43 amMr Teo said don't contact or call Gigawhite, Miss Jenny. This person have nothing to do with this whole thing. I will close thread for now. Mr Teo already paid me RM750. The rest will settle next week. People who help me are much appreciated rclxms.gif

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post Dec 14 2012, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(steven.sl86 @ Dec 14 2012, 10:19 AM)
go to his FB page and post this tread
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He already refund me RM250. Now left RM1000. RM500 cheque I still didn't receive and another RM500 he will bank in to me.
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post Dec 14 2012, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(ChooseACase @ Dec 14 2012, 03:04 PM)
Better follow closely,  on Dec 6 he say he will bank in cheque. now is 14th, take so long to clear?
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Dec 6 he say bank in cheque. So Dec 7 is he bank in cheque actual day. Then follow up is weekend so can't receive. I receive it at Dec 10 which is Monday.

In my current amount it did credit RM500 but available don't have. Then Dec 11 it debit my RM500. I called him, he say check in Dec 12.

Then after few hours he call me back (as he is busy), he say that one of my full name letter spell wrong or wrote wrong. So they debit back my RM500.

Last night he say go bank in my RM500 (not the cheque), he say he went few branch but all didn't work. That time is around 12pm++ midnight.

Just now call him, he say will bank in at 5 something afternoon.

Today must settle all the money because last week he promise me to clear within this Friday

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