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mingisms
post Oct 18 2013, 10:09 PM

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Wow dude. Thank you so much for being so generous and thorough. Belanja you makan if you come up to KL!

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post Oct 19 2013, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(manutd96 @ Oct 19 2013, 12:06 PM)
I want to ask too? For nilai/iktibar questions in p2/3 for sej, must we ans in full sentence like kita harus mempertahankan negara or just mempertahankan negara like many ans scheme give?
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As far as I know, full sentence. Each point must be in a different sentence. Especially nilai questions. Separate each nilai, don't just go "antara nilai ialah kegagahan, bijaksana dan cinta akan negara."

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post Oct 19 2013, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Oct 19 2013, 12:21 PM)
Hi guys, just wanna share with you all some bit of information which may clear up some confusion.

Thus I have been told by my BM tuition teacher whom teaches at SMK DU, whom also examines SPM BM paper, that all that marks BM paper are of the Malay race so therefore it is okay to put in some words spoken by The Prophet ,know as Hadis if I am not mistaken, as long as it is accurate and fitting the context.

For example,

Cara-cara menambahkan ilmu pengetahuan.

> One of the points
Hadis bermaksud "Carilah ilmu hingga ke negara China" menunjukkan bahawa ilmu ada di mana-mana dan tuntutlah ilmu setinggi yang boleh. Ilmu yang dituntut pula tidak terhad kepada cabang ilmu sains dan teknologi malah dalam pelbagai bidan ilmu supaya insan berilmu yang terhasil merupakan insan yang kamil* dan seimbang dari segi jasmani, emosi, rohani dan intelek.

*Kamil bermaksud sempurna.

Hope this helps smile.gif
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Is your teacher Pn Azrina? I'm from DU. She gave us a ceramah a couple of weeks back and was pissed off cos no one really listened. I have some notes from the ceramah but it's nothing new.

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post Oct 19 2013, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 19 2013, 12:35 PM)
Ah, thank you.  rclxms.gif  
Maybe do some of the older past years to familiarize yourself then move on to SBP/MARA papers?
Anyways, I was wondering, how do you guys answer Moral questions that ask us to menerangkan our tindakan(2 marks per question). Do you write :

Saya akan berjumpa dengan ibu-bapa pelajar. Saya akan berbincang tentang tindakan anak mereka membuli pelajar lain.

or

Saya akan berjumpa dengan ibu bapa pelajar untuk berbincang tentang tindakan anak mereka memebuli pelajar lain.

Write both points in a sentence or two? Oh and anyone wanna share their pendidikan moral essays? smile.gif
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You can just start with main point and continue with "untuk..." in the same sentence smile.gif

I have my Moral essays but not sure if good because my teacher is inexperienced.

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post Oct 19 2013, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 19 2013, 12:42 PM)
Hm, may I see how you write it please? smile.gif
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Sorry, misread your question. Edited my post above. I keep misreading things! Probably shouldn't attempt to multitask while baking, wtf.

Will upload a little later. Gotta put the cheesecake in the fridge.
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post Oct 19 2013, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Oct 19 2013, 12:50 PM)
Oh so you are from DU...hmm female tag hmm.gif
Jack? Wait maybe not...may I know who are you?  tongue.gif

Yeah great minds think alike  brows.gif
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I don't go for her tuition, so nope, not Jac. You probably don't know me. I'm like Batman
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post Oct 19 2013, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(manutd96 @ Oct 19 2013, 01:08 PM)
Haha im not sure who are u but I saw alot of photos about du graduation day. Im from dj im nt sure when is mine...
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I'm probably not in them! BECAUSE I AM BATMAN. Ok seriously this thread is about SPM. HAHAHHA.

QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 19 2013, 01:09 PM)
I've to clarify that I'm not from KL . I'm from P.D , the once sleepy-town known for its beaches ( not anymore ) , and from a rural school that came about just 20 years ago .
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My school's not very much older than yours at 25, but I guess it's more urban. Do your teachers make an effort to teach well and conduct seminars and stuff like that? Mine's a little lackluster in that department, although I've had mostly excellent teachers this year.

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Oct 19 2013, 01:08 PM)
So more reasons to get to know you.  brows.gif
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Just let me be Batman.

QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 19 2013, 01:08 PM)
No... I'm Batman, stop misleading people  mad.gif


Ok you can be Batman on Sundays. Every other day is mine.
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post Oct 19 2013, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 19 2013, 01:31 PM)
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Let's just say my school has a very rural-like mentality . Efforts have been made to lift it up these few years , but results are still pretty much the same . Most of our upper-secondary teachers are complacent , my Maths/Add Maths teacher is highly incompetent , you won't even believe me . She can't even solve certain PMR questions .

Most of the students from P.D aim for PD High School , the 'top' one --- mine is considered the worst . Perceptions , you can change them .

Oh and we have one Pure Science class only ( no sub-science ) , it's supposed to be the elite class right ? Almost half of us failed in subjects like English , BM , Maths , Add Maths , Chemistry , and Biology . Also , none of the candidates ( 2012 ) scored an A+ for English last year .

I was pretty much thrown into a sea and had to teach myself to swim or let myself drown , when I was in form one . I chose this school simply because it would be convenient for me to travel back and forth , and also partly because I wanted to prove everyone wrong , that I could excel even in one of the worst schools in P.D ( big ambitions I know , I was 12 )  .

Amidst all these , I don't have any regrets --- I have made great friends who are so honest and pure due to their upbringing ( we don't have any students with rich parents here , at most , middle-income parents )
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Good on you for being motivated, man. You're a real inspiration. notworthy.gif

Elite classes are pretty much pure bull though, considering how easy it is to score 7As in PMR. Half my class failed Add Math. rclxms.gif
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post Oct 19 2013, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Oct 19 2013, 01:25 PM)
your school sekolah kluster whistling.gif Shouldn't it be Batwoman?  laugh.gif
Just hope J-tube don't come out. That wall of text procedure.  doh.gif
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Sekolah Kluster honestly doesn't mean anything. Students are still the same.

QUOTE(kilofi @ Oct 19 2013, 01:28 PM)
perhaps you reckon your school is awesome?
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Our canteen food is the best. Also, I have the best BM, English, Math, Physics, Chem and Add Math teachers. Cannot complain already.

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post Oct 19 2013, 01:53 PM

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Here are my moral essays. Note: I wasn't using the same kata kuncis as you guys, I was using my teacher's notes. I also wrote in separate paragraphs cos I had no clue about anything YAY

http://imgur.com/a/hAZwW

PLS EXCUSE MY UGLY HANDWRITING KTHANKS
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post Oct 19 2013, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(kilofi @ Oct 19 2013, 05:20 PM)
Are you DU'rians'?
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yeeep. are you?
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post Oct 20 2013, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(cuzuamazing @ Oct 19 2013, 09:51 PM)
that actually made me want to see her real picture blink.gif
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I don't think anyone actually knows what I look like. My name just inspires thoughts of Batman (or Batwoman)
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post Oct 20 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 20 2013, 10:30 AM)
Even if this was accurate, next thing we know, the Ministry sees this, then they use the backup paper. Then it gets leaked again and then they use another backup paper and we end up reading everything anyways rclxm9.gif
No, you only have to change for the pendahuluan.

Petikan membincangkan tentang <changed word> blah blah blah
So guys, may I know how you all write your Novel for BM? Oh and is there any websites with good SPM essay samples? I can't seem to find any good ones which are not too short.
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NO TENTANG AFTER MEMBINCANGKAN, that's grammatically wrong! Just "petikan membincangkan <isu>" smile.gif
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post Oct 20 2013, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(kilofi @ Oct 20 2013, 02:34 PM)
I'm DU'rians' too, hey that's great mind I had a feeling I saw you in school before.
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WHO ARE YOU

(there are like 257 form fives we've probably seen each other before)

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post Oct 20 2013, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 20 2013, 02:31 PM)
Oh sorry, didn't know that, but then again, my Bahasa is nothing special. Thanks for correcting me!
Yea, would like to know this too. I usually write simple short sentences cause I spend too much time on Komsas.
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Novel:

(a) Pendahuluan, 2 isi, Penutup
(b) Pendahuluan, 3 isi, Penutup

Generally, that's the formula. Doesn't need a lot of elaboration because it's only worth 7/8 marks. If I'm not mistaken each isi is worth 2 marks. Isi and huraian (contoh teks) should be good enough.

Bahasa marks are just for flow, syntax, grammar and spelling. Nothing fancy.

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post Oct 20 2013, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(kilofi @ Oct 20 2013, 02:43 PM)
Sorry, I cant exposed my identity here
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HAHAHHA fair enough.
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post Oct 20 2013, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 20 2013, 02:55 PM)
Yea, that's how I do it. But how do you write your contoh teks if you dont mind me asking.
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something along the lines of

Satu nilai yang terpapar dalam novel Konserto Terakhir ialah kerajinan. Contohnya, Hilmi bersikap rajin untuk meningkatkan kemahiran muziknya. Dia tetap menghadiri kelas muzik Encik Abu Bakar walaupun terpaksa berkerja keras sebagai pembantu stesen minyak Shell.
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post Oct 20 2013, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Heartnsoul @ Oct 20 2013, 03:31 PM)
I see. That's how I do it too. I thought when you said contoh teks, you meant an exact extraction from the novel. blink.gif  The notes my teacher gave had those.
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omg no. nooo. unless you're giving like teknik plot or something i guess ://
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post Oct 20 2013, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(maximR @ Oct 20 2013, 04:54 PM)
I see there's still some minor confusion when it comes to B.M . Hopefully this will clear things up :

Marks are awarded to ISI only . No need pendahuluan , penutup , or anything [ you'll need those for English only ] .

Elaborations should be short and succinct . No need specific snippets of the novel , not even in teknik plot ! LPM isn't so cruel . Here are some examples :

Berdasarkan satu novel yang anda telah kaji , huraikan dua latar masyarakat yang terdapat dalam novel tersebut . [7m]

Jawapan :

Novel yang saya kaji ialah Papa ... ( akhirnya kau tewas jua ! ) . Antara latar masyarakat yang terdapat dalam novel ini ialah masyarakat yang tabah menghadapi dugaan hidup . Buktinya , Jeffri tabah menghadapi dugaan iaitu isterinya Intan Maliana yang jatuh koma setelah melahirkan anak kembarnya . Latar masyarakat seterusnya ialah masyarakat yang gigih berusaha untuk mencapai kejayaan . Buktinya , Intan Julia gigh meneruskan pelajarannya walaupun terpaksa menerima hakikat bahawa ibunya koma sehingga mencapai keputusan yang cemerlang dalam peperiksaan SPM .


ISI : 2 + 2 = 4 marks
BAHASA : 3 marks

Berdasarkan dua novel yang telah anda kaji , huraikan teknik plot yang terdapat dalam novel tersebut .

Novel yang saya kaji ialah Papa dan Konserto Terakhir . Teknik plot yang terdapat dalam novel Papa ialah teknik imbas kembali . Contohnya , Mak Cik Noraini mengingati kembali peristiwa Intan Maliana yang mengalami komplikasi yang serius setelah melahirkan Intan Julia .

Teknik plot yang terdapat dalam novel Konserto Terakhir ialah teknik dialog . Contohnya , Hilmi berbual-bual dengan Hayati di kebun sayuran milik Datuk Johari pada waktu malam .


ISI : 2+2 = 4 marks
BAHASA : 4 marks

You don't need to memorise specific quotes from the novel to support teknik plot dialog .
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awesome, thanks.
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post Oct 20 2013, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(flamemusic @ Oct 20 2013, 10:13 PM)
Yep I did, but I can only find Chemistry's. For physics and biology what I found is 2012's. By the way thank you @1insane.
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Found them yesterday, I'll link you in a bit.

PHYSICS: http://www.scribd.com/doc/175461135/Modul-...tion-and-Scheme
BIO: http://cikguadura.files.wordpress.com/2013...us-bio-2013.pdf

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