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Oman Orders Eurofighters And Hawks
By Anthony Osborne tony_osborne@aviationweek.com

he Sultanate of Oman has finally signed a long-awaited contract to buy 12 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter aircraft.

The deal, signed in Oman on Dec. 21, also includes eight Hawk jet trainers and in-service support. In all, the deal is worth £2.5 billion ($4.06 billion).

Manufacturing of the aircraft is due to begin in 2014, with first deliveries in 2017. The new Typhoons will replace Oman’s aging fleet of Sepecat Jaguars, while the new Hawk Advanced Jet Trainers (AJTs) are likely to replace the fleet of Hawk 100s used for training.

Negotiations with Oman have been continuing for more than three years, and were recently complicated by difficulties with a trio of corvettes destined for the Omani Navy that were being built in the U.K.

The sale of the Typhoons is part of a major drive to sell British defense equipment to Middle Eastern countries. U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron continues to lobby the government in Abu Dhabi for a possible sale of the Typhoon for the United Arab Emirates and was reportedly in meetings with officials about the aircraft during a recent visit to Dubai in November.

Hailing the Oman deal, Mr Cameron said: “Boosting exports is vital for economic growth and that’s why I’m doing all I can to promote British business in the fastest growing markets so they can thrive in the global race.”

“Every country in the world has a right to self-defense and I’m determined to put Britain’s first-class defense industry at the forefront of this market, supporting 300,000 jobs across the country,” Cameron said.

Along with the sales drive to the UAE, BAE Systems is continuing to work on the sale of a second batch of Typhoons to Saudi Arabia. However the company is struggling to reach an agreement on price, and it warned earlier this week that its 2012 earnings could be affected should a pricing agreement not be reached.

Saudi Arabia has so far taken delivery of 24 out of 72 Typhoons it ordered under the Al-Salam deal, reportedly worth around £4.5 billion. Test flying has now commenced on the first batch of aircraft in the final 48 destined for Saudi Arabia. These aircraft had been due to be built in-country, but a contract change announced earlier this year will see the aircraft now being completed in the U.K. at BAE Systems facilities in Warton, Lancashire.

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Added on December 22, 2012, 10:56 pmpersonal opinion,
Oman typhoon 12+8 Hawk need USD 4.0 Billion with maintenance , for our MMRCA project, if 18 Typhoon sure more than 4.0Bilian around USD 4.8 billion, i thin is hard for our Gov have RM 14.x billion budget to buy Typhoon, so i think Rafale/F18 more cheaper solution.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Dec 22 2012, 11:03 PM

12.4 billion hanya 12+8 Hawk, kalau 18 Typhoon sudah mahu 14.x Billian, sudah terlalu mahal lah, saya tak nampak gov, mampu beli dengan 14.x billion. banyak orang akan marah gov pakai 14.x billion beli Typhoon. harga ini sudah boleh beli F35, beli 1x tak mungkin BAE bagi pasang dekat Malaysia lah, Typhoon consotium 4 negara, susah nak deal utk offset dan technologi transfer.
Saya tengok Refale atau F18 lagi ada harapan di sini.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Dec 27 2012, 04:26 PM

thanks reply， not really understands this , can explain more a bit. also what is SOB

This post has been edited by waja2000: Dec 27 2012, 05:22 PM

hopefull SGPV not select outdated Mica VLS, at lease ESSM and NSM

2013 SH already come with silent hornet cost expected 80mil++ with new engine, AESA, new cockpit etc, old super hornet already 70mil.
Gripen Ng and Su-30mkm already around 100mil perunit for 2013 price. we buy 50mil for su30mkm in 2003, is impossible to getting 55mil for 1 unit for 2013, also su-30 already upgrade to AESA and some electronic from su-35. price for fighter increase very fast for pass 2~3 year.

any model gov buy for MRCA it will cost around usd 2.5~3 Bil for 18 unit， if typhoon maybe more than 3.0Bil


for trend this is last few year 3/4 generation fighter can sell on market, sure all fighter manufacture will get sale many as possible. around 2018~2020 start we move to stealth fighter. the EF2000/Rafale/Su-30-35/gripen possible be phase out from market.



This post has been edited by waja2000: Dec 29 2012, 11:42 PM

42mil is us navy home price also it is 2010, for export is different, some more our country not have military alliance with us. price sure more expensive.
Super Hornet Block III or some call silent hornet or Advance Super Hornet also. Block II already 5~6 year a go product.
went you order jet from them, they have to RnD/customize your version to suite your country communication/ data links/radar, event AEW etc this is also add to the cost, that why need 3~4 later only can delivery for your after order.




http://aviationintel.com/2011/11/06/more-i...-configuration/

Your link is 2008 estimation. Got news china maybe will buy it at 85mil each
For Su-30, India this month deal for 42 So-30mki caost usd3.0Bil , around usd 71mil each.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/N...le1-980190.aspx

This post has been edited by waja2000: Dec 30 2012, 02:43 AM

http://www.defensenews.com/article/2012090...se-Cuts-Sweden-
Switzerland usd 3.2bil for 22 gripen ef.

copy fr net
"Defense-Aerospace.com's July 2006 report attempting to estimate the true cost of western fighters placed the JAS-39C Gripen at over $68.9 million per plane based on the offer to Poland, and estimated the plane's program cost (R&D amotized) at $78.7 million. To give the reader a quick idea of how that benchmarks, costs for the F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet were estimated at $ 78.4/ 95.3 million, the Eurofighter at $ 100-120/ 120-145 million, and the F-35 Lightning II at $ 115 LRIP / 112.5 million. Read the full report here. The report also noted Saab's official response of $35-40 million per plane flyaway costs, however, and acknowledged the problems involved in calculating per-plane figures based on foreign orders due to other costs and terms. "


went if we buy new su30mkm, sure will buy latest improvement on on the plane, so price for 2013 estimate usd 90-100. if sh or su30mkm can get price around usd60mil, typhoon and rafale no need to work so hard. price is different to big.
nvm just see and wait next year than know.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Dec 30 2012, 12:13 PM

C295 AEW used israel system, so no hope goverment will buy it.
Hopefully RMAF consider Saab2000 Erieye AEW&C too, please dont buy Saab340 AEW, price just 40% more, but get double performance

Saab2000 AEW&C
- detect range 450km
- range more than 3600km
- cruise speed 600km
- endurance 9.5 hour
- price only 160/170million

Saab340 AEW
- detect range 250km
- range around 2000km
- cruise speed 450km (too slow, hard follow jet fighter)
- endurance 4~6 hour
- price around 120million

This post has been edited by waja2000: Jan 6 2013, 06:15 PM

any hint than dassault Aviation today got full pages Rafale advertisement on China Press paper, ths is 2nd time on this week, few day go just half pages. big possible rafale wins the contract ?

hard to compare J17/J10 with Rafale, J17/10 both just single engine and different class, our country Airforce more like in twin engine like Rafale due to our country geographic, also twin engine more safe protection. also our country defance system not compatible to chinese system, if buy J17/J10, need more complex integration to our system.
but for future went chinese J-31/J-20 stealth fighter ready around 2017 it maybe better than Rafale.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Feb 10 2013, 07:07 PM

our local company already local make rifles (under license), very short range missiles, also military transport vehicle, future will be 8x8 or 8x6 military vehicle

This post has been edited by waja2000: Feb 11 2013, 04:22 PM

http://malaysiaflyingherald.wordpress.com/...ds-future-plan/

look like Army already send pilot to train attack Heli Tiger,
hopefully with sulo issue will getting more early.

at lease getting 2~4 unit Tiger HAD first.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Mar 9 2013, 11:25 AM

still think Saab 340 AEW not suitable for TUDM,
saab 2000 or Embrace 145 more suitable,
Saab 340 and 2000 already end for commercial market but still sell for military used.

hope fully order aircraft MPA too.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Mar 22 2013, 01:52 PM

i believe every new military device sure have problem during starting use, also need time for fully operational，and supplier will collect data and fix it and continue to delivery remaining unit.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Mar 28 2013, 01:52 PM

just wait and see the response true or not

This post has been edited by waja2000: Mar 28 2013, 02:18 PM

we also need many surveillance radar, MPA event AEW&C to reduce number on security personal

if have free time can read

RAFALE ADVANCES IN ACHIEVING COMMERCIAL SUCCESS

http://www.defesanet.com.br/rafale/noticia...cesso-comercial

use google chrome it will ask translate to English.

widely know in Defance industry...
Germany not select due to political reason...
believe is bcos germany support NGO funding.... gov not really happy on it.

http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/internation...-funding/542978
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/20...c_131834257.htm

This post has been edited by waja2000: Apr 18 2013, 12:38 PM

it happened on 2010, and gov should know about it ... SGPV gowing LOI to bousted on end Dec 2011. i also heard alot defance industry people said like that. for me i think we should get something like 3300tons, not 2700tons, MICA VLS too weak performance


This post has been edited by waja2000: Apr 18 2013, 12:52 PM