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cks2k2
post Feb 25 2013, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 24 2013, 10:40 PM)
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post Feb 25 2013, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Feb 25 2013, 02:05 PM)
That 1 cannot even withstand RPG 7 la. It did not win any of them.  tongue.gif
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actually was the damage from rpg or because it got thrown into the pillars by the rpg?

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post Feb 25 2013, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 25 2013, 05:59 PM)
I doubt it.
The design is not viable for military at all.
what is the role for it? biggrin.gif
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post Mar 2 2013, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(AKace @ Mar 2 2013, 12:32 AM)
i wanna see his reaction when our special forces breached his front door
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Go in screaming: "yippee kai yay motherf*cker!"
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post Mar 2 2013, 01:40 AM

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<Serius mode>

I think KDN has to seriously rethink its (sometimes inept) response once the dust has settled.
I respect our men in uniform but can't help but feel that they've been let down by KDN's (and in effect the govt's) indecisiveness.

Some things to think about:

1. Re-org of military assets
Instead of being fixated with that little red dot (who are like our best-est buddies now, to the point that we want to see them in 90 mins), more military assets should be relocated to this new hot-spot.

2. Rethinking our strategy/response and operational capability
Is our police/military properly equipped both in terms of equipment and training to deal with such incidents (terrorism/unconventional attacks)?
i.e. we supposedly "surrounded" these infiltrators yet a big number were able to escape into plantations and the sea?
Signals corp supposedly jammed their comms - yet they can still call their boss in phillipines?
Our boys got jumped first by the infiltrators? I thought they were being monitored round-the-clock?
Intel totally missed the fact they had much heavier weapons than initially thought?

3. Exactly who should be in charge?
It is unclear who should be in charge - police or military - and when - to the point everyone is asking (and asking again) why police got sent in and not military?
What is the SOP? Some say it's police jurisdiction cos they're on our soil, but given that we're dealing with a bunch of battle-hardened armed intruders shouldn't the military take over?
No disrespect to VAT/UTK but the army might be a better choice in this situation.
At the same time the relevant ministers seem to very "lepas tangan" attitude.

4. Please tell us what's going on instead of a total media blackout
It's infuriating that with the local media blackout that we have to depend on the phillipines media for information.
This lack of clear information does nothing but induces fear, rumor-mongering and paranoia.
Please, our country is "under attack" - we demand to know (without sacrificing confidential info) what's going on.

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post Mar 2 2013, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 2 2013, 01:44 AM)
agreed..btw, does the conflict over? coz there's pinoy news said remaining kiram followers surrendered and the prince dead..
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post Mar 2 2013, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 2 2013, 01:54 AM)

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1. i thought sat phone can be jammed?

2. i think this national security act should be reviewed.
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post Mar 2 2013, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Varezart @ Mar 2 2013, 08:03 PM)
2 commando fallen, 3 injured.
Kinda disappointed to hear that. Last time I remember someone in Kopitiam brag about how powerful our commando really are. I guess that's not true and our commando are not really that much different from other commandos.
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commandos are not soldiers with iddqd god-mode turned on.
look at the history of other commando units like the SAS, sayaret matkal etc and they've had their casualties as well.

QUOTE(Einjahr @ Mar 2 2013, 08:15 PM)
seasoned fighters from MNLF and Abu Sayaf is hard to beat, do you think they're just 'tourists' as Hisham claimed?
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this.
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post Mar 2 2013, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(Varezart @ Mar 2 2013, 08:21 PM)
Are they equivalent to commando? All I keep hearing is they are just terrorists/gunmen but not specific info of their rank.
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lol. they are not part of any formal military - despite calling themselves the royal army - where got rank?
more likely bunch of pirates/rebels with years of battle experience.
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post Mar 2 2013, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(Varezart @ Mar 2 2013, 08:26 PM)
Yeah..that's what I thought as well. Just a bunch of pirates/rebels.....
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a big difference is formal military got rules of engagement (who/when/where to shoot/not shoot) and conduct of war (geneva convention etc).

militants/terrorists tak kisah, anything goes for them.
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post Mar 2 2013, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 2 2013, 08:31 PM)
A lot of people think the word commando means super-hero, or at least something close to it. In the popular mind, they're thought of as the ultimate elite soldier, the solution to every problem.
The fact is, a commando is just someone trained to fight under a specific set of circumstances.
He's the guy you send in when there are more bad guys than good guys, when surprise is the only advantage you can get in an operation.
When it works, commandos seem unstoppable. Those are the operations that make the papers. When it doesn't work, commandos get killed just as dead as anyone else. - Michael Westen
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When ppl think of commando, they think of:

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post Mar 2 2013, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(Varezart @ Mar 2 2013, 08:38 PM)
So, how does someone who are not military train being so powerful that they are fear by SAS and manage to kill  2 Malaysian commando?
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not formally trained but trained by other terrorists with plenty of real fighting experience + religious/national fanaticism + no code of conduct = dangerous
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post Mar 2 2013, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(Varezart @ Mar 2 2013, 09:07 PM)
Well, that's what some ktard make it sound like. I remember someone in kopitiam talk as if commando are some kind of superman. Can't remember which thread.
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we said they are GOOD.
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post Mar 13 2013, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Mar 13 2013, 01:18 PM)
Why would Singapore need F-35's considering the region its operating in.
This is sooo true across the globe.
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they're interested mostly in the vertical lift-off capability.

QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Mar 13 2013, 01:20 PM)
mau bodek Amirikana..
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they are one of the security participants along w/ Israel.

QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 13 2013, 01:26 PM)
I think Singapore will only buy the F-35 when the technology become much more mature.

btw did they misquote him? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Mar 13 2013, 02:07 PM)
Their F-15SG's are not even 10year old right?
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i think misquote. should be the f-5s which are almost EOL.
the f15sg is probably around 2.5-3 years old.
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post Mar 16 2013, 09:29 PM

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so i got to tour Singapore Navy's RSS Intrepid today.

in b4 yinchet and atreyuangel jelly yo

The Intrepid (meaning: fearless) is the 2nd ship of the Formidable class, a multi-mission stealth frigate based on the French LaFayette class.
The lead ship RSS Formidable was built in France; RSS Intrepid was built locally by ST Marine.

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With a Sikorsky Seahawk in the back.
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post Mar 16 2013, 09:36 PM

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But first let's look at some of the heat the navy boys pack when boarding vessels:

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HK 416 w/ red dot sight

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HK MP5K PDW w/ stock folded

Not shown: the venerable M4 Carbine and some Sig Sauer pistols.
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post Mar 16 2013, 10:22 PM

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Harpoon launchers

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OTO Melara 76mm gun, seen from the bridge
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post Mar 17 2013, 09:05 PM

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Inside the Intrepid - not for big guys

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Sikorsky Seahawk on the flight deck of the Intrepid


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post Mar 22 2013, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(aztechx @ Mar 22 2013, 05:27 PM)
Waaaa cik su got new pants!!!
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post Mar 22 2013, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 22 2013, 09:47 PM)
yup m72 LAW.
btw which ammo it is using?
anti structure or enhanced capacity? hmm.gif
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i would like to see how kebal those sulus are against this baby.

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