QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 24 2013, 10:40 PM)
win all.
Military Thread V8, Ops Daulat
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Feb 25 2013, 02:15 PM
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Feb 25 2013, 06:20 PM
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Mar 2 2013, 12:42 AM
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Mar 2 2013, 01:40 AM
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<Serius mode>
I think KDN has to seriously rethink its (sometimes inept) response once the dust has settled. I respect our men in uniform but can't help but feel that they've been let down by KDN's (and in effect the govt's) indecisiveness. Some things to think about: 1. Re-org of military assets Instead of being fixated with that little red dot (who are like our best-est buddies now, to the point that we want to see them in 90 mins), more military assets should be relocated to this new hot-spot. 2. Rethinking our strategy/response and operational capability Is our police/military properly equipped both in terms of equipment and training to deal with such incidents (terrorism/unconventional attacks)? i.e. we supposedly "surrounded" these infiltrators yet a big number were able to escape into plantations and the sea? Signals corp supposedly jammed their comms - yet they can still call their boss in phillipines? Our boys got jumped first by the infiltrators? I thought they were being monitored round-the-clock? Intel totally missed the fact they had much heavier weapons than initially thought? 3. Exactly who should be in charge? It is unclear who should be in charge - police or military - and when - to the point everyone is asking (and asking again) why police got sent in and not military? What is the SOP? Some say it's police jurisdiction cos they're on our soil, but given that we're dealing with a bunch of battle-hardened armed intruders shouldn't the military take over? No disrespect to VAT/UTK but the army might be a better choice in this situation. At the same time the relevant ministers seem to very "lepas tangan" attitude. 4. Please tell us what's going on instead of a total media blackout It's infuriating that with the local media blackout that we have to depend on the phillipines media for information. This lack of clear information does nothing but induces fear, rumor-mongering and paranoia. Please, our country is "under attack" - we demand to know (without sacrificing confidential info) what's going on. This post has been edited by cks2k2: Mar 2 2013, 01:40 AM |
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Mar 2 2013, 01:45 AM
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Mar 2 2013, 02:01 AM
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Mar 2 2013, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Mar 2 2013, 08:03 PM) 2 commando fallen, 3 injured. commandos are not soldiers with iddqd god-mode turned on.Kinda disappointed to hear that. Last time I remember someone in Kopitiam brag about how powerful our commando really are. I guess that's not true and our commando are not really that much different from other commandos. look at the history of other commando units like the SAS, sayaret matkal etc and they've had their casualties as well. QUOTE(Einjahr @ Mar 2 2013, 08:15 PM) seasoned fighters from MNLF and Abu Sayaf is hard to beat, do you think they're just 'tourists' as Hisham claimed? this. |
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Mar 2 2013, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Mar 2 2013, 08:21 PM) Are they equivalent to commando? All I keep hearing is they are just terrorists/gunmen but not specific info of their rank. lol. they are not part of any formal military - despite calling themselves the royal army - where got rank?more likely bunch of pirates/rebels with years of battle experience. |
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Mar 2 2013, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Mar 2 2013, 08:26 PM) a big difference is formal military got rules of engagement (who/when/where to shoot/not shoot) and conduct of war (geneva convention etc).militants/terrorists tak kisah, anything goes for them. |
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 2 2013, 08:31 PM) A lot of people think the word commando means super-hero, or at least something close to it. In the popular mind, they're thought of as the ultimate elite soldier, the solution to every problem. When ppl think of commando, they think of:The fact is, a commando is just someone trained to fight under a specific set of circumstances. He's the guy you send in when there are more bad guys than good guys, when surprise is the only advantage you can get in an operation. When it works, commandos seem unstoppable. Those are the operations that make the papers. When it doesn't work, commandos get killed just as dead as anyone else. - Michael Westen |
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Mar 2 2013, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(Varezart @ Mar 2 2013, 08:38 PM) So, how does someone who are not military train being so powerful that they are fear by SAS and manage to kill 2 Malaysian commando? not formally trained but trained by other terrorists with plenty of real fighting experience + religious/national fanaticism + no code of conduct = dangerous |
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Mar 13 2013, 01:18 PM) Why would Singapore need F-35's considering the region its operating in. they're interested mostly in the vertical lift-off capability.This is sooo true across the globe. QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Mar 13 2013, 01:20 PM) they are one of the security participants along w/ Israel.QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 13 2013, 01:26 PM) I think Singapore will only buy the F-35 when the technology become much more mature. btw did they misquote him? QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Mar 13 2013, 02:07 PM) i think misquote. should be the f-5s which are almost EOL.the f15sg is probably around 2.5-3 years old. |
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so i got to tour Singapore Navy's RSS Intrepid today.
in b4 yinchet and atreyuangel jelly yo The Intrepid (meaning: fearless) is the 2nd ship of the Formidable class, a multi-mission stealth frigate based on the French LaFayette class. The lead ship RSS Formidable was built in France; RSS Intrepid was built locally by ST Marine. ![]() ![]() With a Sikorsky Seahawk in the back. |
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But first let's look at some of the heat the navy boys pack when boarding vessels:
![]() HK 416 w/ red dot sight ![]() HK MP5K PDW w/ stock folded Not shown: the venerable M4 Carbine and some Sig Sauer pistols. |
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![]() Harpoon launchers ![]() OTO Melara 76mm gun, seen from the bridge |
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![]() Inside the Intrepid - not for big guys ![]() Sikorsky Seahawk on the flight deck of the Intrepid |
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