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Simulator Centre Set to Make Malaysia Regional Training Hub for Helicopter Pilots

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EC725 medium helicopter (photo : NS Shah, Bernama)

SUBANG JAYA: Malaysia will become Asia-Pacific's training hub for helicopter pilots and crew, with the setting up of a regional simulator centre here in January 2013.

Defence Minister Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi said the simulator centre, which is a joint venture by the European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company (EADS) and Boustead Heavy Industry Corporation, would act as a training centre for EC225/725 copters as well as a helicopter maintenance, repair and overhaul centre.

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"Southeast Asia's helicopter market is one of the fastest growing and Malaysia is well placed to meet demands for this dynamic growth through comprehensive cooperation projects with various companies," said Dr Ahmad Zahid.

The minister was at the Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah airport where he received the first two of 12 EC725 medium-lift helicopters for the Royal Malaysian Air Force.

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The 12 helicopters, with a price tag of RM2.3bil, will be used for search and rescue operations, troop transport and utility missions.

He said the copters, by the French Eurocopter Group, would compliment and eventually replace the 20 aging Sikorsky S-61A-4 Nuri helicopters bought in 1968.
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Vietnam Soldiers Exercise with Missiles on the Shoulder

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The Gunners export 12.7 mm from the University's team, 16, 141 Regiment, 312th Division (legion 1) standard firing practices (all photos : BaoDatViet)

Recently, Non Army forces and the Northern People's Non participate in live firing exercises in shooting TB1.

Tactical maneuvers, firing of Non Army forces and the Northern People's Non 2012 took place in the country towards the 40th anniversary of victory "Hanoi - Dien Bien Phu in the air" (12/1972-12/2012).

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The export team 12.7 mm of the regular army target practice to destroy low-flying aircraft in daytime conditions.

This is an integrated testing for the division and each artillery gunners of the unit. Although the Gunners made all shot in daytime and night conditions are difficult, but each hail of bullets fly out of the barrel of the cannon is a target destroyed.

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Join maneuvers, firing the gate teams militia of the provinces and cities in the north.

Coordination between the statistics, the export team; cleverly making use, creativity between theory and practice, skillfully manipulating shot in the last shot of the gunner from the military regions, army corps, troops who ... has helped 100% export team to destroy the target. It, confirmed bravery, qualifications and ability to handle situations in combat and mastery of technical equipment and weapons of the soldiers not.

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The sniper team export 12.7 mm of Thac Ba Hydropower Joint Stock Company (Yen Bai) target practice killing day

The tireless efforts of the officers and soldiers of the artillery unit key non-military and militia forces today as a manifestation of belief, determination followed the heroic tradition of air force hero in the "Dien Bien Phu on" 12/1972.

Here are a few pictures at the rehearsal:
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Export team A-72 missiles (Vietnam called SA-7) in the 241 Brigade (1st Corps) aircraft target practice shot fired.
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The export team low-range missiles, the A-72 in Military Region 1 target coordinate destroy low-flying aircraft.
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Export team-aircraft guns 12.7 mm drill size radiation at night.
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The joy of the soldiers after the shoot down "enemy aircraft" flying targets M96.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 4 2012, 07:28 AM)
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Cool! any future callsign for this EC like those Nuri?
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Cool! any future callsign for this EC like those Nuri?
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if we get more of heli than we will have 1.
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What requirement to own M16 at home?
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What requirement to own M16 at home?
I always want one.
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join the army...
then ur barrack is ur home...
thus u have ur m16 at home...
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What requirement to own M16 at home?
I always want one.
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Malaysia near impossible to get 1.
unless you are buying from the black market which warrant you a death penalty if caught.
US would be much easier to own 1.

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they are old fag mah.
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Dec 4 2012, 09:12 AM)
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smuggling in a M16 is a better option than having to live in shitty barracks plus they don't always give you a rifle
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My current place is actually around 50kmish from the famed RAAF F-111 airbase. They had museum operating there but did not visit yet as I do not have car there...

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Army pilots stage mutiny over chopper fears
By Ian McPhedran | 5 December 2012 Wednesday | 11:23AM

Tiger chopper pilots stage mutiny over safety fears
Mutiny follows aircrew being hit with cockpit fumes
Defence denies mutiny, says it has support of crew

DOZENS of Army pilots have conducted a mini-mutiny by going on "strike'' and refusing to fly new Tiger attack helicopters after aircrew were hit by cockpit fumes for the third time this year.

The latest emergency occurred at the Cultana military training area in South Australia on November 4 after earlier incidents in March and July. The fleet was not grounded after the third incident.

"The crew applied the standard procedure for smoke or fumes in the cockpit and landed safely at El Alamein Airfield,'' Defence told News Limited.

Pilots were angered by the decision not to suspend flying and aircrew from the Darwin-based 1st Aviation Regiment voted against flying, effectively a mutiny, until all safety concerns were addressed.

The emergency was isolated to the air conditioning unit of a single European built and Brisbane assembled Tiger Armed Reconnaissance Helicopter (ARH).

Tiger flying was "suspended'' in March and July this year due to cockpit fumes and since 2007 the aircraft has recorded 24 "fume incidents'' which is on a par with other military aircraft.

Defence refused to acknowledge that pilots had actually refused to fly and put the lack of flying down to "a prolonged period in the field and absence from home''.

It did acknowledge aircrew concerns and said a lull in activity was not unusual during "maintenance reset and administration catch-up on return to the unit''.

"Steps being taken by the Chain of Command to address 1st Aviation Regiment aircrew concerns have the full support of the aircrew,'' Defence said.

The army is still flying its Tiger training aircraft at Oakey in southern Queensland and other nations including Germany and France, that chalked up 4000 Tiger hours in Afghanistan, continue to operate the machines.

The Army's 22 Tigers (16 in Darwin) were built by European giant EADS and its subsidiary Eurocopter and assembled in Brisbane by Australian Aerospace at a cost of $2 billion.

A well-placed source said many military pilots were shocked that army pilots were allowed to vote not to fly effectively defying senior officers who judged the aircraft safe to operate.

"Usually you have to fight to stop military pilots from flying,'' a source said.

Defence confirmed that the 1st Aviation Regiment fleet had not flown since the incident at Cultana Training Area on November 4.

"There has been no scheduled operational flying of the ARH aircraft by the 1st Aviation Regiment in Darwin since the fumes incident at Cultana,'' it said.

During the emergency, the two-person crew of the tandem Tiger Helicopter had to open small weather windows inside the cramped cockpit as they conducted a sideslip manoeuvre to rapidly circulate air and dissipate the acrid fumes.

In the second incident in July, the window was jammed shut after not being checked during pre-flight inspections so the crew was forced to take the risky step of blowing the canopy off to ventilate the cockpit.

The source of the fumes in the first two incidents has been identified as a faulty capacitor in older models of a power module in the aircraft's multi-function display system.

It is understood a dud air conditioning unit was responsible for the Cultana event and it was isolated to a single aircraft - number 05 off the production line.

According to whistleblowers, safety concerns have prompted several pilots to commence discharge procedures.

In the past year, 22 helicopter pilots have left the army including two from the 1st Aviation Regiment.

Last September, the officer in command of the 1st Aviation Regiment's 162 Reconnaissance Squadron, Major Hayden Archibald, told News Limited that he would love to go to Afghanistan with the Tigers.

The Army was criticised during the inquiry into the death in Afghanistan of pilot Lieutenant Marcus Case where air force investigators highlighted examples of Army's inability to meet operational airworthiness regulations.

Unlike the Navy and RAAF the Army's operational airworthiness authority is non-pilot anmd Forces Commander Major General Mick Slater.

EUROCOPTER ARH "AUSSIE'' TIGER HELICOPTER

* Armed reconnaissance attack helicopter built from 80 per cent carbon fibre

* Two-person crew in tandem configuration equipped with helmet mounted sights

* Hellfire anti-armour missiles, 70mm rockets, 30mm cannon, armoured cabin

* Integrated laser sensors

* Cost about $70 million


http://www.news.com.au/business/worklife/a...r-1226530364627

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Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus announced today via video message at the USS Enterprise (CVN 65) inactivation ceremony that the third Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier will be named USS Enterprise.

“Mabus selected this name to honor USS Enterprise (CVN 65), the Navy’s first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, which was inactivated today in Norfolk, Va. Commissioned in 1961, CVN 65 served for over than five decades”, according to the news release dated December 1, 2012.

“The USS Enterprise was the first of its kind, and for 51 years its name has been synonymous with boldness, readiness and an adventurous spirit,” said Mabus. “Rarely has our fleet been without a ship bearing the name. I chose to maintain this tradition not solely because of the legacy it invokes, but because the remarkable work of the name Enterprise is not done”, Mabus said (source: http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=15708 ).

The new USS Enterprise, designated CVN 80, will be the “ninth ship to bear the name.”
USS Enterprise and subsequent Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carriers will provide improved “warfighting capability, quality of life improvements for Sailors and reduced life cycle costs.”

The Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier will be 1,092 feet in length and have a beam of 134 feet. The flight deck will be 256 feet wide, and the ship will be able to operate at speeds in excess of 34 knots.” The Ford class has a unit cost of over $13.5 billion dollars. Enterprise will be built by Huntington Ingalls Industries-Newport News Shipbuilding in Newport News, Virginia.

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Rafale charm offensive with Indian news crew.

VIDEO: NDTV's Vishnu Som Flies In The Rafale
8 December 2012 Saturday

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Statement On Apache Win In Indian Parliament
10 December 2012 Monday

After formally announcing the CH-47F Chinook's victory in the Indian Air Force's heavy copter competition last week in Parliament, the Indian defence minister has now officially confirmed Boeing's AH-64D Apache Block III win as well. Here's the full statement in Parliament today:

Indian Air Force (IAF) is procuring Chinook Ch-47F heavy-lift helicopters and AH-64D Block-III Apache helicopters from Boeing Company of USA. In the two separate proposals initiated by Indian Air Force (IAF) for procurement of 15 Heavy Lift Helicopters and 22 Attack Helicopters, M/s Boeing of United States of America (USA) with Chinook CH-47F(I) and 'Apache' AH-64D respectively, has emerged as the L1 Vendor. The Acceptance of Necessity (AoN) cost for 15 Heavy Lift Helicopters and 22 Attack Helicopters is Rs.2468.41 Crores and Rs.3094.98 Crores respectively. However, final cost of the Contracts would depend upon outcome of the Contract negotiation with the L1 Vendor.

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wow India is going full speed in lots of high profile procurement.
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Dec 10 2012, 08:35 PM)
baru mau reporting in... tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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uncle zim banyak perlahan.
dah lama buka thread baru karang baru nak reporting in. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 10 2012, 08:35 PM)
wow India is going full speed in lots of high profile procurement.
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India used to have only Pakistan to fear, now added with the growing strength of the PRC's military might. India did go to war with PRC in the 1960s or 1970s..

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uncle zim banyak perlahan.
dah lama buka thread baru karang baru nak reporting in. laugh.gif
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uncle ada kursus la for 4 days at PD last week, then work, dating then go to Bkt Jalil last nite.. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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India used to have only Pakistan to fear, now added with the growing strength of the PRC's military might. India did go to war with PRC in the 1960s or 1970s..
uncle ada kursus la for 4 days at PD last week, then work, dating then go to Bkt Jalil last nite.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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I know that.
btw their own HAL heli tak boleh guna kah?
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 10 2012, 08:48 PM)
I know that.
btw their own HAL heli tak boleh guna kah?
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dunno lar, heard its doing OK, not like their indigenous MBT program, last2 kena buy T-90 jugak tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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dunno lar, heard its doing OK, not like their indigenous MBT program, last2 kena buy T-90 jugak  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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too much songlap in their mbt program. until government scare to throw money in. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 10 2012, 08:51 PM)
too much songlap in their mbt program. until government scare to throw money in. laugh.gif
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pity la, got potential in their MBT program, nama mender ek, Arjun kan?

Vietnam also slowly building up their military forces, due to PRC's influences. When we do joint-military exercise lak with Vietnam?
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pity la, got potential in their MBT program, nama mender ek, Arjun kan?

Vietnam also slowly building up their military forces, due to PRC's influences. When we do joint-military exercise lak with Vietnam?
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want join exercise with vietnam not that easy 1 especially Navy exercise.
nak jaga hati banyak orang.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 10 2012, 08:57 PM)
want join exercise with vietnam not that easy 1 especially Navy exercise.
nak jaga hati banyak orang.
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pity, better if ASEAN nations have stronger military co-operation with each other...
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pity, better if ASEAN nations have stronger military co-operation with each other...
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Well only if we have big budget on hand.
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pity, better if ASEAN nations have stronger military co-operation with each other...
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if there are same enemy.. if not.. hard to make it happen.. politics, that's the main problem

china can try claiming Natuna sea when they take over spratley.. and Indonesia will join other ASEAN country going to war.. no matter what..
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Chechen militants ?they have a lot of cool stuff


Hamas - supplied by Chechen militants- funded by Saudi arabia - protected by the US - which also protects Israel - who is at war with Hamas

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Hey guys since when the government order 2 migs 29?
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Hey guys since when the government order 2 migs 29?
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i doubt ppl here will know....
mymill got more reliable sources ler mang...
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i doubt ppl here will know....
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already get my answer there.
it our old migs refurbish. with new engine and etc.
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already get my answer there.
it our old migs refurbish. with new engine and etc.
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eh..nice bird!! But what is it? not very good with dassault birds..
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Heheh confirmation of what I have been hearing all this time, our MKM can bring MICA under its wings
prolly the only Sukhoi because of the French avionics system? hmm.gif
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Heheh confirmation of what I have been hearing all this time, our MKM can bring MICA under its wings
prolly the only Sukhoi because of the French avionics system?  hmm.gif
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Malaysia has accepted its first two of 18 Sukhoi Su-30MKM multirole fighters at NPK Irkut's aviation plant in Irkutsk, Siberia. Six aircraft will be shipped to the country during June and July, says Irkut president Oleg Demchenko, with another six to follow in October and November and the final batch to be delivered in the second half of 2008.

Acquired under a $900 million-plus deal, the aircraft are based on the Indian air force's Su-30MKI, but use French and Russian-sourced avionics, targeting and electronic warfare equipment in place of Indian and Israeli technology. Malaysia is considering buying Thales's TopSight helmet-mounted display and MBDA's Mica medium-range air-to-air missile to equip its new aircraft, but will initially use Russian-supplied equipment.

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I suspect it will only be use when 2nd batch mkm is order.
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it have been long confirm. since 2007. biggrin.gif
I suspect it will only be use when 2nd batch mkm is order.
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chait.. how can I miss this

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I'm more interested on the Thales's TopSight gooding yo.
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The Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon is the western world’s most prolific fighter of the last 40 years.

Even if medium and long range air-to-air massiles, such as the AIM-7 Sparrow and the AIM-120 AMRAAM,  have been integrated in the F-16 since 1986 for the BVR (Beyond Visual Range) engagements, the Viper was born in response to LWF (Light Weight Fighter) program, for a small and agile fighter: the USAF needed a small, cheap, maneuverable airplane to flank the F-15 Eagle, its air superiority fighter, to face the small Soviet fighters, such as the MiG-21 in close combat.

Indeed, Red and Green Flags, Tiger Meetings, and any other major western exercise feature tons of Vipers (the universal F-16’s nickname) of all types and ages and, almost daily, F-16 from different air forces take part to DACT (Dissimilar Air Combat Training) sessions against the most modern fighter jets, sometimes playing the Aggressor role.

Therefore, understanding which are the advantages and the disadvantages of F-16 against the modern western fighters in DACT sessions, based on pilots accounts and most widely known fighter jets characteristics (Rules of Engagement within the training scenario, pilots skills and other factores which may have a significant impact on the outcome of a dogfight will be ignored), can be interesting.

According to one of the more experienced of the U. S. Air Force Viper’s pilots, Lieutenant Colonel Philipe “Rico” Malebranche, the F-16 can do very well against the F-15. The F-16 is small, light and agile: although it has a lower maximum speed and rate of climb, it has a smaller Radar Cross Section and, once on the merge, it’s harder to spot. Furthermore, its turn rate is impressive: it does not lose much energy in turns (unlike, for instance, a Mirage 2000) and can outmaneuver the F-15 in low altitude dogfights.

However, the toughest of the fighter jet to face in aerial combat, at least if you are seated in an F-16, is the F-22 Raptor: “It’s not a matter of trying to kill him, but to see how long you can survive!” as “Rico” says in “Viper Force: 56th Fighter Wing–To Fly and Fight the F-16″ book by Lt. Col. Robert “Cricket” Renner USAF (Ret.).

WVR engagements versus the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet can be quite challenging as well.

The F-16 has a higher thrust-to-weight ratio than the “Super Bug” and this is an advantage Viper drivers can exploit in close air combat: “we can climb 3,000 feet above the F-18, then bunt over to put him in the HUD (Head Up Display) for a gun shot” Malebranche, who has also been an exchange pilot in a U.S. Navy Hornet Squadron, says.

However, while it bleeds energy faster than the F-16, the “Rhino” is much better than the Viper if the dogfight gets slow, because the Hornet handle high angles of attack and point the nose at the opponent easier.

And how can the Viper perform against the Eurofighter Typhoon?

During more or less  a decade of service with the Italian Air Force, the F-16 has been extensively used to train Typhoon pilots in WVR engagements. According to the Italian pilots, the F-16 matches the F-2000 under 10,000 feet. But above FL100 the Typhoon becomes quite difficult to beat since its superior aerodynamics give the Eurofighter can out maneuver the Viper at every engagement.


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SHAH ALAM: RMN’s first 75 metre training ship, pre-commissioning unit Gagah Samudera (loosely translated Sea Power?) was launched and named at the NGV Tech shipyard in Sinjangkang, Selangor, today (Dec 14, 2012).

The first of two ship class, pennant number 271, is definitely way much bigger than most of the FACs currently in service with the RMN today.

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PCU Gagah Samudera prior to her launch today at the NGV Tech shipyard

I am no naval architect but I assumed if money was available and if the RMN want to recapitalise its FAC fleet, it will not be difficult to up-armed a new variant with a 76/57mm gun, four SSM, a six pack ESSM launcher and torpedoes, from the basic design which was procured from Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering. The two training ship is only fitted with a 30mm MSI Seahawk turret on the B mounting just below the bridge. Pintle mounted machine guns could also be fitted to outside the bridge and along the deck aft.

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A profile pix of the Gagaah Samudera. A helo deck is at aft but no hangar

Both ships are also fitted with a helo deck aft which could accomodate a Fennec or Super Lynx for landings but there is no hangar. According to the profile provided by RMN, the ship is fitted with an X-band/S-band navigation radars and an Eletro Optical director, which were unnamed. The ship is to be fitted with a Samsung Thales FCS.

As a training ship, Gagah Samudera has a top speed of 20 knots from two propellers driven by two MAN diesel engines. A combat variant probably need four diesel engines and water jets to have a more respectable burst speed, however.

Gagah Samudera numbers
Length 76.5 metre
Displacement 1270 ton
Crew 45
Trainees 80
endurance 21 days
Speed 20 knots
Twin diesel engines
X-band navigation radar
S-band navigation radar
2 RHIB.

After the launching, Gagah Samudera will undergo a fitting and commissioning period up to six months (if the RMN is lucky!). It is not expected to be ready for LIMA 2013 however (March 26-30). As I wanted to go back I did not find out the type of radars and EO director to be fitted nor whether the Samsung Thales FCS is just a fire control system or a scaled down Combat Management System. But tomorrow is just another day isnt it?

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 13 2012, 01:14 PM)
it have been long confirm. since 2007. biggrin.gif
I suspect it will only be use when 2nd batch mkm is order.
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second batch MKM? 1st batch pun dh buat our neighbours menggelupur.. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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second batch MKM? 1st batch pun dh buat our neighbours menggelupur.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 14 2012, 10:34 PM)
2nd batch itu letak kat Labuan tak kacua siapa pun. laugh.gif
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within striking range of Manila dan Makassar AFB.. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 14 2012, 10:34 PM)
2nd batch itu letak kat Labuan tak kacua siapa pun. laugh.gif
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Got a source from inside!
the will likely no 2nd batch MKM

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within striking range of Manila dan Makassar AFB.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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still very far from them.
mayb buy a few brahmos to add some spice. laugh.gif

QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 14 2012, 10:38 PM)
Got a source from inside!
the will likely no 2nd batch MKM

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kan dah ada Irbis-E radar.
perhaps some money to further upgrade it? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 14 2012, 10:42 PM)
still very far from them.
mayb buy a few brahmos to add some spice. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(budi bahasa budaya kita @ Dec 14 2012, 10:45 PM)
amboi amboi yin.. brahmos dia mau ye.. nakal betul yin ni tauuu
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amboi amboi yin.. brahmos dia mau ye.. nakal betul yin ni tauuu
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what i want the most is storm shadow missile.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 14 2012, 10:42 PM)
still very far from them.
mayb buy a few brahmos to add some spice. laugh.gif
kan dah ada Irbis-E radar.
perhaps some money to further upgrade it? laugh.gif
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hahahaha
Maybe they like the Rafale AESA? whistling.gif
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hahahaha
Maybe they like the Rafale AESA?  whistling.gif
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boleh ker?
letak RBE2aa kat mkm? hmm.gif
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boleh ker?
letak RBE2aa kat mkm? hmm.gif
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that's why I said maybe
hahahaha
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my friend(works with TUDM) said there was whisper of 2nd MKM purchases any truth to this whisper?
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my friend(works with TUDM) said there was whisper of 2nd MKM purchases any truth to this whisper?
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The biggest rumors come from trade-in of the old migs with 6 MKM with a discounted price.
Our 1st batch MKM might get some upgrade as well.
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The biggest rumors come from trade-in of the old migs with 6 MKM with a discounted price.
Our 1st batch MKM might get some upgrade as well.
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ah right, i have another question
what would they do with our old mig? i always wondered how they make money from that
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ah right, i have another question
what would they do with our old mig? i always wondered how they make money from that
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not sure they might refurbish it and sell to other nation or they are going to use it themselves.
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not sure they might refurbish it and sell to other nation or they are going to use it themselves.
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would other nation buy an old model of MIG?
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would other nation buy an old model of MIG?
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there would. Myanmar or any other exsoviet country for example.

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there would. Myanmar or any other exsoviet country for example.
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but some country manufacture will deny that trade right? like US...
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but some country manufacture will deny that trade right? like US...
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how so?
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how so?
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i read somewhere if any nation who wanna buy american asset from third country need american senate approve to get it..
i dunno about Russia deal...

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but some country manufacture will deny that trade right? like US...
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depend!
Pinoy also interested!
it is a bargain as the MIG is heavily upgrade!
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depend!
Pinoy also interested!
it is a bargain as the MIG is heavily upgrade!
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if they are heavily upgraded could it still compete with latest model?
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if they are heavily upgraded could it still compete with latest model?
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because of airframe hours and still limited tech can be push into the old can!
any country that buys our MIG need to upgrade the air frame, and some of new tech can't be fitted be it.
it is quite costly for TUDM and can be prove cost effective to the budget.
Instead we buy new tech
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QUOTE(budi bahasa budaya kita @ Dec 15 2012, 05:50 PM)
tak boleh ke kita angkat eurofighter dan rafale sekaligus bersama sistem aew&c boeing..

rasa-rasanya jet pejuang mana maintenance dia amat tinggi ??
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British,
pasal apa?
Tengok Tornado sudah la Hanger pun kene ekon!
menyampah aku!
lagi pun Typhoon dah terbukti byk masalah waktu kat Penang haritu!
aku soal salesman Bae byk lak cakap dia, kene smash skit lagi diam terus,
tak dapat aku goody bag!

cis!
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British,
pasal apa?
Tengok Tornado sudah la Hanger pun kene ekon!
menyampah aku!
lagi pun Typhoon dah terbukti byk masalah waktu kat Penang haritu!
aku soal salesman Bae byk lak cakap dia, kene smash skit lagi diam terus,
tak dapat aku goody bag!

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i read somewhere if any nation who wanna buy american asset from third country need american senate approve to get it..
i dunno about Russia deal...
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Not sure about that.
if high profile assets it will require US approval.
In russian deals it is a proposal from their government not ours.
but it seem like it get lots of interest.
US at one times have offer the trade in of our Hornet. to make way for larger amount of SH.
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QUOTE(budi bahasa budaya kita @ Dec 15 2012, 05:50 PM)
tak boleh ke kita angkat eurofighter dan rafale sekaligus bersama sistem aew&c boeing..

rasa-rasanya jet pejuang mana maintenance dia amat tinggi ??
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EF2000 no thanks.
A Big NO.
Seperti yang arteyu kata banyak masalah.
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 15 2012, 06:03 PM)
British,
pasal apa?
Tengok Tornado sudah la Hanger pun kene ekon!
menyampah aku!
lagi pun Typhoon dah terbukti byk masalah waktu kat Penang haritu!
aku soal salesman Bae byk lak cakap dia, kene smash skit lagi diam terus,
tak dapat aku goody bag!

cis!
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pesawat nak ekon? boleh blah lah...
baik gov bagi aku bajet ekon for my instrument lab...
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because Bae is vry good in marketing their product!
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QUOTE(budi bahasa budaya kita @ Dec 15 2012, 10:31 PM)
ceciter ceciter pedie masalah2 eurofighter dia ni bang atreyuangel yang kami semua kasihi  blush.gif
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Ok, cerita paling senang paling public dan tak akan menyebabkan aku tido lokap ialah!
Typhoon ni tak seswai ngan cuaca panas serta humidity tinggi kat Malaysia nih.

waktu eks tu byk karenah, air condition tuk sembur pesawat ni toksah kata la (pasal hanger Btrwth ni open hanger)
Depa kene sapu liquid (chemical apa aku tak tau) kat body pesawat tu tuk prolong dia punya life, ada skali tu tetiba satu typhoon rasanya kat runway tgh taxi, berasap
tak tau apa kes, masuk balik hanger.

jadi waktu LIMA dassault dah tau kes nih, depa park Rafale tengah2 panas, bila nak buat show, naik terus terbang sedangkan Typhoon plak kne datang dari Btwrth pasal ground EQ depa kat sana!

jadi nilaikan sendiri!
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Ok, cerita paling senang paling public dan tak akan menyebabkan aku tido lokap ialah!
Typhoon ni tak seswai ngan cuaca panas serta humidity tinggi kat Malaysia nih.

waktu eks tu byk karenah, air condition tuk sembur pesawat ni toksah kata la (pasal hanger Btrwth ni open hanger)
Depa kene sapu liquid (chemical apa aku tak tau) kat body pesawat tu tuk prolong dia punya life, ada skali tu tetiba satu typhoon rasanya kat runway tgh taxi, berasap
tak tau apa kes, masuk balik hanger.

jadi waktu LIMA dassault dah tau kes nih, depa park Rafale tengah2 panas, bila nak buat show, naik terus terbang sedangkan Typhoon plak kne datang dari Btwrth pasal ground EQ depa kat sana!

jadi nilaikan sendiri!
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keke.
ada cerita osa ker?
Anyway SH ftw. beberap Bulan yang lepas MIDA telah adakan perbincangan panjang lebar ngan Boeing dan beberapa syarikat US.
dengar kata it goes well. CTRM mungkin dapat contract besar. biggrin.gif
lepas 1 minggu lebih BAE come out with the 10bil deals. laugh.gif

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keke.
ada cerita osa ker?
Anyway SH ftw. beberap Bulan yang lepas MIDA telah adakan perbincangan panjang lebar ngan Boeing dan beberapa syarikat US.
dengar kata it goes well. CTRM mungkin dapat contract besar. biggrin.gif
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Ada tp takle la cerita! brows.gif
SH is actually is can be consider almost a done deal, no matter what are the procurement of MMRCA
the SH still going to be inserted to the inventory nod.gif

btw the 10bil story is proven to be fake!
just a fantasy of one journalist name AM (reversed)
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Ada tp takle la cerita!  brows.gif
SH is actually is can be consider almost a done deal, no matter what are the procurement of MMRCA
the SH still going to be inserted to the inventory  nod.gif

btw the 10bil story is proven to be fake!
just a fantasy of one journalist name AM (reversed)
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haha.
memang kena paksa beli ini. macam migs deal dulu. biggrin.gif
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So we are procuring SH with probably Rafale at the same time?

two new MMRCA model to be bought?
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QUOTE(ET-Force @ Dec 16 2012, 12:45 AM)
So we are procuring SH with probably Rafale at the same time?

two new MMRCA model to be bought?
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SH might win all.
or we might be seeing gripen lease deal as well.

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SH might win all.
or we might be seeing gripen lease deal as well.
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So, bye2 to Rafale?

1 more thing, are we trading all of out hornet to get SH?
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QUOTE(ET-Force @ Dec 16 2012, 12:50 AM)
So, bye2 to Rafale?

1 more thing, are we trading all of out hornet to get SH?
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thing can change anytime. laugh.gif
beside winner are not announce yet.
no we are not trading any hornet out.
we just upgrading it.

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 16 2012, 12:52 AM)
thing can change anytime. laugh.gif
beside winner are not announce yet.
no we are not trading any hornet out.
we just upgrading it.
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why cant us spilt 50% for SH 50% for rafale?

would love to both also. hahaha
but i know it is imposible because both plane are not same.

tech. used also almost not the same.

hard to get maintenance ain't?
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wanna challenge SG maybe. y no buy stealth plane? T-50 look good. kekekekke
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QUOTE(acam2812 @ Dec 16 2012, 01:10 AM)
wanna challenge SG maybe. y no buy stealth plane? T-50 look good. kekekekke
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bahhh,, T-50 wont be ready at least before 2018, maybe later...

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we can book early T-50MKM version. kekekekkekeke... currently is there any other country in SEA having stealth planes?
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we can book early T-50MKM version. kekekekkekeke... currently is there any other country in SEA having stealth planes?
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QUOTE(ET-Force @ Dec 16 2012, 01:03 AM)
why cant us spilt 50% for SH 50% for rafale?

would love to both also. hahaha
but i know it is imposible because both plane are not same.

tech. used also almost not the same.

hard to get maintenance ain't?
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Maintenance is not a problem.
we just need to setup a new department for Rafale.

the big problem is the budget. IIRC we only allocate USD1bil for the 8-18 jets.
I highly doubt if there will given special budget. biggrin.gif
if you split I dun think we can get the desire amount of aircraft.
it is a whole differ story compare to the migs case. IIRC we get the migs very cheaps price.
the rafale price tags in whole new level.

Saab were playing it smartly "lease the gripen perhaps they even throw in AEW deals as well".
I'm seeing these deals is much higher for split buying.
special budget for AEW is highly possible compare to special budget for jet fighter

QUOTE(acam2812 @ Dec 16 2012, 01:10 AM)
wanna challenge SG maybe. y no buy stealth plane? T-50 look good. kekekekke
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we did not challange SG.
Airforce have to fill in the gap when the migs retire.

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/conspiracy/
Sebenarnya masa Dr.M berkuasa pihak US memang tak duduk senang policies Dr. M yang agak aggresive terhadap Singapore.
apabila Dr. M dah retire US pun dah turunkan weapons restriction kat Malaysia.
pada masa yang sama pertukaran politics kat US dan kuasa China pun menjadi factor utama AS membenarkan Malaysia membeli senjata yang higher standard.
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SH merupakan salah satu MMRCA yang tulen sekali kalau dibandingkan ngan fighter yang lain.
Malah saya pasti SH memang higher standard compare to EF dan rafale.
dengan SH block 2 offer kat Malaysia akan tingkatkan kuasa udara kita.
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QUOTE(budi bahasa budaya kita @ Dec 16 2012, 03:07 AM)
Australia punya F/A-18 super hornet.. ujian pengeboman dia.. dasattttt !! kababooooooooooommm !!!! shocking.gif

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tak payah ambik itu.
Saya lebih suka kalau kita ambik JSM. cuma bayar cost integration aje.
tak ada masalah politic or restriction.
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QUOTE(budi bahasa budaya kita @ Dec 16 2012, 03:15 AM)
yinchet.. kalau betul-betul nak angkat F/A18 Super Hornet.. mau paling kurang angkat sekali peluru berpandu ni
pastu buat joint-excercise dengan Australia.. indon kalau tahu ni mesti terkencing ke terberak terus diaorang  brows.gif kababooom.. range atas >370 km tu !!


jet MMRCA Malaysia kena mesti pasang taring terbaik.. jangan jadi cam kes dulu nak mengaum nampak gigi rongak pula, habis jiran semua gelak besar je.

antara taring terbaik untuk jet MMRCA Malaysia kalau angkat F/A-18  icon_idea.gif

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rasanya kita tak dapat JASSM. tak tau lar. tak salah kalau kita tanya mana tau dapat juga. laugh.gif
JSOW mungkin boleh dapat.

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QUOTE(ET-Force @ Dec 16 2012, 12:50 AM)
So, bye2 to Rafale?

1 more thing, are we trading all of out hornet to get SH?
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SH deal is more to political factors, to pleased the US!
same like what we did during the MIG, we buy MIG the US merajuk and we have to buy Hornet in small number

Maybe same again this time, in small number, the current hornet is heavily upgraded and maybe an addition about 10 plane or more while we will keep the current hornet
so the line will be more like this
18MKM (Air superiority) + 6MKMII (Pure interceptor)
18 Rafale/Typhoon (MMRCA)
12 Gripen (Leased until MMRCA come)
8 F18D (Upgrade Hornet) + 10 F18E/F (Super Horney)
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QUOTE(budi bahasa budaya kita @ Dec 16 2012, 12:59 AM)
camtu pula..

bukan ke perancis dan UK lebih kurang sama je dia punya cuaca ?? semua pun eropah gak.

lain citer la kalau super hornet.. amerika punya cuaca, ada bahagian kat tempat diaorang yang dekat sama cam malaysia..
cam yang korang tengok citer cowboy amerika lawan red indian tu.. cuaca kat sana ada yang betul-betul panas terik, tapi humidity rasanya malaysia tinggi lagi.

kalau cuaca la yang jadi point atreyuangel nak bash eurofighter, maka pilihan yinchet iaitu superhornet la pilihan terbaik nampak gayanya bukannya rafale. whistling.gif
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macam aku cakap la, Rafale depa jemur tengah panas, BAe ada buat ke waktu lima?

ada satu lagi point, Rafale dah ada cop Battle Proven waktu kat Libya
long range mission, bomber protection, deep striking etc2
Typhoon ada? whistling.gif

lagi satu, baru2 ni BAe kecoh dapat tembak Meteor, sedangkan Rafale dah lama tembak meteor nih!
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 16 2012, 07:30 AM)
macam aku cakap la, Rafale depa jemur tengah panas, BAe ada buat ke waktu lima?

ada satu lagi point, Rafale dah ada cop Battle Proven waktu kat Libya
long range mission, bomber protection, deep striking etc2
Typhoon ada?  whistling.gif

lagi satu, baru2 ni BAe kecoh dapat tembak Meteor, sedangkan Rafale dah lama tembak meteor nih!
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Thats why I prefer the Rafale, quite durable, excellant avionics and BATTLE PROVEN....tho SH also quite good, and since US weather also got hot and humid, its also not manja like Typhoon..

QUOTE(acam2812 @ Dec 16 2012, 11:24 AM)
prefer angkat F-35.
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F-35 already running into some problems..
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is it because F-35 is running on single engine?

So if we get f-18 SH do we get the F-18F (2 seater) or F-18E (single seater)?



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QUOTE(budi bahasa budaya kita @ Dec 16 2012, 12:59 AM)
camtu pula..

bukan ke perancis dan UK lebih kurang sama je dia punya cuaca ?? semua pun eropah gak.

lain citer la kalau super hornet.. amerika punya cuaca, ada bahagian kat tempat diaorang yang dekat sama cam malaysia..
cam yang korang tengok citer cowboy amerika lawan red indian tu.. cuaca kat sana ada yang betul-betul panas terik, tapi humidity rasanya malaysia tinggi lagi.

kalau cuaca la yang jadi point atreyuangel nak bash eurofighter, maka pilihan yinchet iaitu superhornet la pilihan terbaik nampak gayanya bukannya rafale. whistling.gif
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ape gila ke ape? buat perbandingan berdasarkan tengok cite cowboy? doh.gif dei btw europe cuaca ada 4 season , UK winter sgt harsh la.. & summer panas tapi tak macam malaysia kita panas terik hujan badai sepanjang tahun tau?
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If they won which ever jet... Is it easy to integrate into our overall defense system?


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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 16 2012, 07:09 AM)
SH deal is more to political factors, to pleased the US!
same like what we did during the MIG, we buy MIG the US merajuk and we have to buy Hornet in small number

Maybe same again this time, in small number, the current hornet is heavily upgraded and maybe an addition about 10 plane or more while we will keep the current hornet
so the line will be more like this
18MKM (Air superiority) + 6MKMII (Pure interceptor)
18 Rafale/Typhoon (MMRCA)
12 Gripen (Leased until MMRCA come)
8 F18D (Upgrade Hornet) + 10 F18E/F (Super Horney)
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lolol.
banyak wet dream.

QUOTE(acam2812 @ Dec 16 2012, 11:36 AM)
is it because F-35 is running on single engine?

So if we get f-18 SH do we get the F-18F (2 seater) or F-18E (single seater)?

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not because of single engine.
it is because it new tech and the performance is not up to the standard as the paper 1st proposed.
lack of funding.

Two seater.
we are getting block 2 as well.
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QUOTE(minizian @ Dec 16 2012, 01:40 PM)
If they won which ever jet... Is it easy to integrate into our overall defense system?
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can the only thing is money.
Anyway most of our system are western block.
Even our Russian equipment is modded with western tech into it.

QUOTE(souless223 @ Dec 16 2012, 01:41 PM)
Malaysia needs more frigate
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sure we already order 6 units.
would be the most advance ship in TLDM fleet.
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are we getting in F18G Growler like Aussie did?
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are we getting in F18G Growler like Aussie did?
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we currently don't need Growler.
we need decent amount of fighter jets.
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QUOTE(budi bahasa budaya kita @ Dec 16 2012, 01:15 PM)
ada sampai dekat 40celcius macam Malaysia tak ??
..cuaca macam kat Malaysia kau letak hot dog tengah-tengah panas masa acara LIMA tu,
10 minit lepas tu dah boleh makan dah aku ingat, masak dengan sempurna hot dog tu..  laugh.gif

kat UK ke Perancis ke boleh buat camni ke ?? citer cowboy aku pernah la tengok cowboy nak mati kehausan sebab panas terik, jenuh mencari pokok kaktus nak ambil air dari akar dia  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

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Ada lagi satu faktor cuaca, iaitu humidity!


QUOTE(minizian @ Dec 16 2012, 01:40 PM)
If they won which ever jet... Is it easy to integrate into our overall defense system?
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Yep, as we're using european and american avionics even with teh MKM!

QUOTE(budi bahasa budaya kita @ Dec 16 2012, 01:54 PM)
yinchet Atreyuangel lupa masukkan AWACS / AEW&C

kalau jadi la kita angkat super hornet patut ally terus dengan Australian Air Force..
boleh belajar dengan diaorang camne diaorang setting diaorang punya AEW&C dan super hornet sampai boleh kababommm camni sekali  icon_idea.gif

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AEW datang skali ngan jet. E2D kalau full SH squadron, setakat 10 bijik tak dapek yoo.

Kalau Typhoon Casa 295 (tp no to Israel parts, BAe kata depa bleh buat)

Dassault.. err aku lupa hahhaha
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Militants battle Pakistani police after attacking airport
By Jibran Ahmad | 16 December 2012 Sunday | 7:20 pm

PESHAWAR, Pakistan (Reuters) - Militants holed up in a half-built house in the northwestern Pakistani city of Peshawar battled security forces on Sunday after taking part in an attack on a nearby airport the previous night, officials said.

All five of the militants who were holed up in two buildings under construction were killed by the afternoon, a provincial government and army official said.

The shoot-out erupted hours after an attack on Peshawar airport. The military declared the airport secure after killing five attackers who rammed an explosives-laden vehicle into the outer wall of the airfield and battled guards after dark on Saturday.

The raid on the airport was the biggest assault on a high-profile military facility in Pakistan since gunmen stormed an air base in the province of Punjab in August, and underscored the resilience and reach of Pakistan's Taliban insurgents.

The Pakistani Taliban, who have been fighting for more than five years to overthrow the state, said they had sent 10 men to attack the airport.

"Five militants were hiding in an under-construction house near Peshawar airport," said Mian Iftikhar Hussain, a spokesman for the provincial government, on Sunday.

"All of them were suicide bombers. They had weapons and hand grenades."

One policeman was killed and two wounded in the clash on Sunday, he said.

During the Saturday night attack on the airport, three rockets slammed into a nearby residential area. Health and police officials said at least four civilians had been killed and 45 wounded in the flurry of blasts and gunshots.

Authorities sealed off the airport, which handles military and civilian traffic, during the attack and suspended flights.

The gritty streets of Peshawar, the gateway to the Khyber Pass and Afghanistan beyond, have often been shaken by bomb attacks and shootings, but residents said this was the first significant raid on the heavily guarded airport.

(Reporting By Jibran Ahmad; Editing by Robert Birsel)


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World Air Forces 2013
By Tone Eye | 11 December 2012 Tuesday

The Ruag sponsored World Air Forces 2013 provides worldwide military fleet data compiled from the Flightglobal databases.

The report also includes global fleet analysis from the Flightglobal’s Insight team.

http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/media...013-101015.aspx

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sure we already order 6 units.
would be the most advance ship in TLDM fleet.
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bro, Gowind tu frigate or SGPV?
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bro, Gowind tu frigate or SGPV?
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SGPV itu cuma nama project. laugh.gif
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Australia: Helicopter pilots fleeing army over pay
By Ian McPhedran | 12 December 2012 Wednesday | 12:00AM

SENIOR army helicopter pilots are flying the coop for better pay and conditions in the booming oil and gas industry.

The trend has emerged amid a string of near-disastrous cockpit-fume incidents in the army's new attack helicopters - the full extent of which can now be revealed.

Twenty-two pilots have left in the past year, including 12 majors, with the others being instructors or very experienced line pilots.

An insider said "at least eight more have effectively left" but were officially taking leave until it expired, while another 15 were in the process of "separation administration".

Many of these pilots will go to the oil and gas industry where companies will hire between 30 and 50 pilots for the expanding North West Shelf operation in 2013.

It costs taxpayers more than $2 million to train a military pilot. A senior army pilot can earn up to $100,000 a year but will work often long and uncertain hours.

Pilots flying to offshore oil and gas platforms can earn twice that amount for far fewer hours.

The final straw for many of the pilots was the army's decision not to pay its pilots a $17,000-a-year "capability bonus" negotiated by RAAF pilots.

The exodus reflects the increasing shift of defence force engineers to the booming mine industry.

The lure of better pay has contrasted with increasing concerns over safety in the military.

Last week pilots allegedly refused to fly Tiger helicopters from the Darwin-based 1st Aviation Regiment.

Up to seven of the aircraft have had dangerous levels of fumes inside the cockpit.

The fumes displace oxygen and lead to impaired judgment similar to that caused by alcohol - while continued exposure can result in death.

One two-person crew overcome by fumes had no memory of landing their seven-tonne machine.

It also stated that the 24 fume incidents recorded by the Tiger fleet was par for the course with military aircraft.

"That is just laughable, it is significantly higher than other aircraft type as statistics from the Directorate of Defence Aviation and Air Safety show," a source said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/helic...6-1226534832410
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RI gets new Navy, Air Force chiefs
Bagus BT Saragih, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | National | 17 December 2012 Monday | 1:39 PM

President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono inaugurated Adm. Marsetyo as the new Navy chief of staff and Air Marshall Ida Bagus Putu Dunia as the new Air Force chief of staff in a ceremony at the State Palace on Monday.

Marsetyo replaces Adm. Soeparno, who will retire. Marsetyo was previously Soeparno's deputy.

Ida Bagus, who formerly served as head of the Military Education and Training Command, replaces Air Marshal Imam Sufaat.

A number of Cabinet members, including Indonesian Military Commander Adm. Agus Suharyanto, attended the ceremony.

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Japan Aims To Launch F-3 Development In 2016-17




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Sometime around 2030, if U.S. Air Force plans come to pass, a fighter that leaps ahead of Lockheed Martin F-22 and F-35 technology will enter U.S. service. At about the same time, if Japan's plans come to pass, a similarly advanced fighter will enter service on that side of the Pacific.

It might be the same fighter. Merging Japan's 2030s requirement into evolving U.S. plans for post-F-35 fighters seems to make great industrial sense. Japan plans to begin developing a homegrown fighter within five years, with the aim of beginning production under the designation F-3 around 2027. The defense ministry wants to lay the groundwork to go its own way by investing in stealth technology and building its own powerful fighter engine.

IHI Corp. is to develop a technology-demonstrator engine of 15 metric tons (33,000 lb.) thrust, according to an official document seen by Aviation Week.

Mitsubishi Heavy Industries is already building a small airframe technology demonstrator, the ATD-X Shinshin, which the ministry expects to test in the fiscal year beginning April 1, 2014. Mitsubishi Heavy is also very likely to build the F-3, which Japanese officials expect will carry a pilot.

Full-scale development would begin in 2016 or 2017 and the first prototype would fly in 2024-25, according to the ministry's plans. Series production is to begin in 2027 and the type would begin replacing Mitsubishi Heavy Industries F-2 strike fighters in the first half of the 2030s. In the second half of that decade it would begin replacing Boeing F-15Js. The F-15s are older but are likely to remain the mainstay of Japan's air-defense squadrons, with suitable upgrades (see following article).

The exact status of the ministry's plans is unclear, but they probably represent what it hopes to achieve, with some expectation of obtaining approval. It projects production of about 200 F-3s, which would follow the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning into Japanese service. Japan has decided to buy 42 F-35s and may build parts of them. The U.S. Navy and U.S. Air Force tentatively plan to begin fielding new fighters in 2030-35, the former sometimes using the name F/A-XX and the latter referring to its proposed F-X.

Two years ago, the ministry disclosed a research effort for what it called the i3 Fighter, intended to assemble a suite of advanced technologies for a future combat aircraft—or, some suspect, to be offered to the U.S. as a Japanese contribution to the next U.S. fighter. The ministry's Technical and Research Development Institute is leading the i3 Fighter work.



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Indonesian air traffic control was unaware that the crashed Sukhoi Superjet 100 was an airliner because it had been coded as a Sukhoi Su-30 fighter.

Flight-data personnel at Jakarta, having received a flight plan for the Superjet's demonstration, coded the aircraft as an Su-30 because the database being used did not include the twinjet.

Investigators probing the fatal Superjet crash on 9 May indicate that this misleading entry influenced a crucial decision to permit the airliner to descend to low altitude in a mountainous region, shortly before it struck terrain.

The inquiry also reveals that the aircraft was inadvertently set on its fatal collision course by the pilots who, distracted, failed to keep the aircraft turning during an orbit.

When Jakarta approach accepted responsibility for the Superjet during its flight, the controller checked the aircraft type through his radar display.

Owing to the coding, the data indicated that the aircraft was an Su-30. The controller believed the aircraft was a military fighter flying to the Bogor region for a test flight. Bogor is the location of the Atang Sanjaya military training area.

As the aircraft headed south from Jakarta the Superjet pilot requested a descent to 6,000ft and an orbit.

Indonesia's National Transportation Safety Committee says this request was based on the pilot's preparation for a runway 06 approach when the aircraft returned to Jakarta Halim airport. This approach differed from an earlier demonstration flight that day, which had used the opposite-direction runway 24.

Cockpit-voice recordings show that the captain explained to another individual on board that the descent and orbit were intended to bleed altitude in order to avoid being too high for the 06 approach.

The NTSC says the Jakarta approach controller was "not concerned" about the boundaries of the training area, which had an upper airspace limit of 6,000ft.

"The [controller] assumed that a military aircraft was eligible to fly in this area," it adds. "As a result [he] approved the aircraft to descend to 6,000ft."

While the earlier demonstration flight had turned left, northeast of Mount Salak, and headed back to Jakarta, the second flight instead performed a right-hand orbit which took its flightpath directly north of the peak.

Ironically, as the aircraft turned, the captain demonstrated the terrain-awareness function to a customer representative in the cockpit. Because the aircraft, at this point, was pointing northeast the terrain ahead was relatively flat, and the captain said there was "no problem with terrain at this moment".

To perform the orbit the pilot sequentially adjusted the heading selector - setting it to 333°, then 033°, 103°, 150° and 174°. Investigators believe the crew became distracted by discussions about fuel consumption with the customer representative, and did not notice when the Superjet dutifully rolled out onto its selected heading, 174°, which took it south towards Mount Salak.

By the time the pilots adjusted the heading selector again, to 325°, nearly a minute had gone by since the aircraft exited its orbit. The new heading turned the aircraft into the mountain peak, generating terrain-avoidance warnings which the pilots disregarded as being false.

None of the 45 occupants survived the impact. The NTSC says Jakarta approach had been busy handling several other flights and did not notice that radar contact had been lost with the Superjet for more than 20min. Only after the controller contacted Halim tower, the NTSC adds, did he realised the missing aircraft was a civil airliner.
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TUDM perlu 27 Eurocopter EC725

KUANTAN 19 Dis. - Tentera Udara Diraja Malaysia (TUDM) memerlukan 27 unit helikopter pengangkut jarak jauh, Eurocopter EC725 bagi menggantikan sepenuhnya perkhidmatan 28 unit Sikorsky S61A-4 Nuri yang digunakan sejak 1968.

Panglima Tentera Udara, Jeneral Tan Sri Rodzali Daud berkata, perolehan 12 unit Eurocopter EC725 adalah tidak mencukupi.

Sehubungan itu katanya, sebagai langkah interim, TUDM akan menggunakan 15 helikopter Nuri yang akan ditambah baik bagi meningkatkan keupayaannya sehingga kesemua 27 buah Eurocopter EC725 diterima.

"Kita (TUDM) akan menunggu bila penggantian akan dilakukan dan sekiranya kita menerima kesemua 27 helikopter ini (Eurocopter EC725), perkhidmatan Nuri akan ditamatkan," katanya.

Beliau berkata demikian pada sidang akhbar selepas Majlis Pengenalan Pesawat Eurocopter EC725 kepada Sultan Pahang, Sultan Ahmad Shah selaku Kolonel Yang Dipertua TUDM di sini hari ini.

Yang turut hadir, Menteri Besar, Datuk Seri Adnan Yaakob.

Rodzali berkata, pihaknya bagaimanapun berterima kasih kepada kerajaan kerana meluluskan perolehan 12 Eurocopter EC725 yang mana pesawat berteknologi tinggi itu akan meningkatkan keupayaan dan keberkesanan operasi TUDM secara menyeluruh.

"Perolehan 12 pesawat ini akan selesai menjelang 2014 nanti, yang mana pada tahun depan, insya-Allah sembilan buah lagi akan diterima dan yang terakhir pada awal 2014.

"Saya penuh yakin, menjelang 2015, kesemua helikopter beserta anak-anak kapal akan beroperasi sepenuhnya bagi melaksanakan setiap tugas yang diberikan," katanya.

Mengenai aspek penempatan, beliau berkata, lapan Eurocopter akan ditempatkan di Pangkalan Udara Kuantan di sini manakala empat lagi di Pangkalan Udara Labuan, Sabah.

Katanya, kriteria utama pemilihan kedua-dua pangkalan udara itu adalah berdasarkan kepada kepentingan strategik, kawasan operasi serta infrastruktur yang sedia ada.

Sementara itu, Sultan Ahmad Shah yang ditemui pemberita selepas majlis tersebut bertitah, perolehan 12 unit Eurocopter EC725 berkenaan merupakan satu kebanggaan kepada TUDM.

"Ini satu penghargaan daripada kerajaan Malaysia dan saya sebagai Kolonel Yang Dipertua TUDM merasakan kita tidak boleh ketinggalan dalam memiliki aset-aset ketenteraan yang terkini," titah baginda.


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Raytheon to provide targeting ATFLIR pods to Malaysia under FMS
By Editorial | 20 December 2012 Thursday | 09:20 AM

PROJECT INFO

Project Name: NASC - Advanced Targeting Forward Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) Pods - Malaysia

Project Status: Awarded

Project Type: Parent

Project Start Quarter: Q4 2012

Project End Quarter: Q3 2017

Project Value (USD): 25.7 Million

Project Sector: Vehicle and Aircraft Electronics

Project Description:

The US Naval Air Systems Command (NASC) has awarded a contract to Raytheon Company for six Advanced Targeting Forward Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) pods in support of the F/A-18 C/D aircraft for the Government of Malaysia under the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) programme.

The contract will be performed at McKinney, Texas; El Segundo, California; Midland, Ontario, Canada; and the Harlow, Essex, United Kingdom. It is estimated to be completed in July 2017.

The US$25.7 million firm-fixed-price delivery order was awarded in July 2017.

Project Location: McKinney, Texas; El Segundo, California, USA, North America; Midland, Ontario, Canada; and the Harlow, Essex, United Kingdom.

BIDDING COMPANIES

Tender Award Date: 19/12/2012

Awarded to: Raytheon Company

Bidding Companies: Raytheon Company.

http://www.strategicdefenceintelligence.co...ysia_under_fms/
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pardon my lack of knowledge but what is
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anyway smalam singgah kementah terkejut nak masuk kena ada surat tunjuk sebab untuk naik ke tingkat sekian².aku nak siapkan keje access door ngan newstv digital signage.so takde surat tak bleh masuk.abis tinggal tool box ngan kabel tinggal kat atas.

pesal smalam ada sprm datang singgah ka?ada sesapa keje kt kementah?
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the dildo shaped thingie on the F18 used for guiding PGMs and nav

QUOTE(^KamilskaZ^ @ Dec 22 2012, 12:36 AM)
anyway smalam singgah kementah terkejut nak masuk kena ada surat tunjuk sebab untuk naik ke tingkat sekian².aku nak siapkan keje access door ngan newstv digital signage.so takde surat tak bleh masuk.abis tinggal tool box ngan kabel tinggal kat atas.

pesal smalam ada sprm datang singgah ka?ada sesapa keje kt kementah?
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Oman Orders Eurofighters And Hawks
By Anthony Osborne tony_osborne@aviationweek.com

he Sultanate of Oman has finally signed a long-awaited contract to buy 12 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter aircraft.

The deal, signed in Oman on Dec. 21, also includes eight Hawk jet trainers and in-service support. In all, the deal is worth £2.5 billion ($4.06 billion).

Manufacturing of the aircraft is due to begin in 2014, with first deliveries in 2017. The new Typhoons will replace Oman’s aging fleet of Sepecat Jaguars, while the new Hawk Advanced Jet Trainers (AJTs) are likely to replace the fleet of Hawk 100s used for training.

Negotiations with Oman have been continuing for more than three years, and were recently complicated by difficulties with a trio of corvettes destined for the Omani Navy that were being built in the U.K.

The sale of the Typhoons is part of a major drive to sell British defense equipment to Middle Eastern countries. U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron continues to lobby the government in Abu Dhabi for a possible sale of the Typhoon for the United Arab Emirates and was reportedly in meetings with officials about the aircraft during a recent visit to Dubai in November.

Hailing the Oman deal, Mr Cameron said: “Boosting exports is vital for economic growth and that’s why I’m doing all I can to promote British business in the fastest growing markets so they can thrive in the global race.”

“Every country in the world has a right to self-defense and I’m determined to put Britain’s first-class defense industry at the forefront of this market, supporting 300,000 jobs across the country,” Cameron said.

Along with the sales drive to the UAE, BAE Systems is continuing to work on the sale of a second batch of Typhoons to Saudi Arabia. However the company is struggling to reach an agreement on price, and it warned earlier this week that its 2012 earnings could be affected should a pricing agreement not be reached.

Saudi Arabia has so far taken delivery of 24 out of 72 Typhoons it ordered under the Al-Salam deal, reportedly worth around £4.5 billion. Test flying has now commenced on the first batch of aircraft in the final 48 destined for Saudi Arabia. These aircraft had been due to be built in-country, but a contract change announced earlier this year will see the aircraft now being completed in the U.K. at BAE Systems facilities in Warton, Lancashire.


Added on December 22, 2012, 10:56 pmpersonal opinion,
Oman typhoon 12+8 Hawk need USD 4.0 Billion with maintenance , for our MMRCA project, if 18 Typhoon sure more than 4.0Bilian around USD 4.8 billion, i thin is hard for our Gov have RM 14.x billion budget to buy Typhoon, so i think Rafale/F18 more cheaper solution.

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Deal For 42 More Su-30MKIs Signed
By Shiv Aroor | 24 December 2012 Monday | 3:55 PM

HAL Statement: Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) signed a contract for 42 numbers of Su-30 MKI frontline Fighter Aircraft with the Ministry of Defence and Russian firm Rosoboronexport in New Delhi today. "HAL's total responsibility for this supersonic multirole aircraft has now gone up to 222. This will further boost our confidence and operations as we have already delivered 119 Su-30 aircraft to the Air Force. We will continue to contribute to the country's defence preparedness", says Dr. R. K. Tyagi, Chairman, HAL. The deal was inked by Dr. Tyagi on behalf of HAL with the Ministry of Defence. Mr. S. Subramanyan, Managing Director of HAL's MiG Complex signed the contract with Mr. A. A. Mikheev, Deputy General Director of Rosobornexport.

One hundred fifty seven Indian vendors are involved in providing 13,350 components of the aircraft while another 19,450 components are manufactured at HAL's Nasik and Koraput Divisions, adds Dr. Tyagi.

The Su-30 MKI project provides solid platform to indigenous manufacturing and technical competence creating hundreds of direct and indirect jobs. HAL's hand-holding with private entrepreneurs has also ensured creation of strong infrastructure and quality avionics products.

Su-30 MKI is a two-seater, highly manoeuvrable, supersonic, multirole aircraft for day and night operations in all weather conditions. The aircraft is fitted with two turbojet AL-31FP engines and is equipped with state-of-the-art avionics from Russian, Western and indigenous sources.

The project has enabled HAL to master niche technologies of aircraft building and absorb new technologies in manufacturing areas like machining, forming, welding, assembly, testing and aircraft system checks. The aircraft airframes are made at Nasik, engines at Koraput, accessories at Hyderabad (communication and navigation), hydraulic, pneumatic and fuel aggregates and instruments at Lucknow and avionic displays and INGPS at Korwa. Overhauling and repairs of Su-30 MKI have already commenced in the dedicated lines set up at Nasik.

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thread becoming slow this month yinchet and brother artu more updates plox biggrin.gif
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more here:
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How come this one do not have aerial refuelling receptacle like the one they usually shown in LIMA?
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berita terbaru pasal MMRCA

Oman order RM12.4 Billion deal dengan eurofighter.. arab saudi katanya order 70 lebih eurofighter, blok arab sekarang ni semua pakat nak pakai eurofighter


kalau malaysia dapat deal dengan BAE Systems paling kurang pun untuk buat certain part eurofighter, terutamanya finishing part bagi pak arab ni di Malaysia..
rasanya kita pun akan dapat untung juga nanti.. lagi-lagi kalau pak arab nak hantar repair eurofighter diaorang boleh gak guna jalan laut terus ke malaysia


Malaysia jadi HQ Asia Pacific BAE Systems.. harap deal diaorang dengan pak arab tu, Malaysia pun dapat juga untung dia..
katanya nak bina jet perang ni di perak, kalau nak eksport ke arab rasanya tak akan ada banyak masalah kalau guna jalan laut..
minta British bawa dia punya aircraft carrier gedabak punya besar untuk bawa eurofighter yang dipasang di Malaysia eksport kepada pak arab tu

12.4 billion hanya 12+8 Hawk, kalau 18 Typhoon sudah mahu 14.x Billian, sudah terlalu mahal lah, saya tak nampak gov, mampu beli dengan 14.x billion. banyak orang akan marah gov pakai 14.x billion beli Typhoon. harga ini sudah boleh beli F35, beli 1x tak mungkin BAE bagi pasang dekat Malaysia lah, Typhoon consotium 4 negara, susah nak deal utk offset dan technologi transfer.
Saya tengok Refale atau F18 lagi ada harapan di sini.

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hi bro, if in OZ can ask to go to Empire shooting range hahaha
if in Malaysia maybe can go for pistol range

QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 27 2012, 04:24 PM)
12.4 billion hanya 12+8 Hawk, kalau 18 Typhoon sudah mahu 14.x Billian, sudah terlalu mahal lah, saya tak nampak gov, mampu beli dengan 14.x billion. banyak orang akan marah gov pakai 14.x billion beli Typhoon. harga ini sudah boleh beli F35, beli 1x tak mungkin BAE bagi pasang dekat Malaysia lah, Typhoon consotium 4 negara, susah nak deal utk offset dan technologi transfer. 
Saya tengok Refale atau F18 lagi ada harapan di sini.
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I've talked with the procurement team, actually 2 of them only la not the whole team
Can buy Typhoon but it will only be the one that fly as all the cost will be put together to bear that SOB!
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Can buy Typhoon but it will only be the one that fly as all the cost will be put together to bear that SOB!
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thanks reply, not really understands this , can explain more a bit. also what is SOB

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thanks reply, not really understands this , can explain more a bit. also what is SOB
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hahaha Son of a B****,
see Typhoon not just only expensive to buy but also expensive to maintain and operate!
in order to make sure that jet fly, all other aeroplane have to be grounded to channel the money to operate typhoon!

Malaysia is not like Oman or Saudi where they have money to spare!
even Rafale is expensive, but the credibility and function match the price tag if compare to the typhoon!

SH would be the greatest choice but only TUDM get what they want and less restriction!
IIRC even OZ got their hands full with Super Hornet restriction by the US
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 27 2012, 04:46 PM)
hi bro, if in OZ can ask to go to Empire shooting range hahaha
if in Malaysia maybe can go for pistol range
I've talked with the procurement team, actually 2 of them only la not the whole team
Can buy Typhoon but it will only be the one that fly as all the cost will be put together to bear that SOB!
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F-35: Still on Asia’s Radar?
By Trefor Moss | 27 December 2012 Thursday

Several Asian countries are interested in the American F-35 JSF. But Canada’s U-turn on buying the jet won’t encourage Asian partners to sign up any time soon. Will the program survive?

http://thediplomat.com/2012/12/27/asia-eye...arily/?all=true


Added on December 28, 2012, 12:15 am2013 LIMA Programme.

http://navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/.../lima-2013.html


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QUOTE(piala dunia matlamat kita @ Dec 27 2012, 09:52 PM)
sekurang-kurangnya industri pertahanan Malaysia kena buat semua peluru dan bom sendiri untuk atasi masalah restriction US ni.

saya sokong open source punya idealogi.. kalau dapat open source code penuh..
kita boleh alter sampai ke tahap kernel dia sekali dan gain full control of the system without any restriction at all.

kita kena lahirkan pakar bom dan peluru berpandu pintar yang amat tepat dan dahsyat, kita yang tersendiri.
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Masalah restriction US ni hanya tertakluk pada barang US, Gripen pun ada barang US jugak
Typhoon aku tak pasti, tp depa still boleh influence tuk restrict barang US dlm sesuatu aset tu!

Buat bom sendiri mmg boleh buat, tetapi kalo ko letak kat Hornet ikut suka suki takde dpat kebenaran US congress ko igat apa akan jadi kat Malaysia?

Tak payah cakap pasal hacking us software laa, tgk OZ cukup, hack system Hornet/Super Hornet samapi full capability, tp last2 apa pun tak jadi
pasal benda tuk guna tu takde. Bila nak guna third party punya barang kene mintak kelulusan congress.

Hornet tu punya sensitif, nak dispose bolt atau screw pun kene ada written document atau some sort of acknowledgement dari US tau tak?
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QUOTE(piala dunia matlamat kita @ Dec 27 2012, 09:42 PM)
aku ada fikir camtu, si atreyuangel ni melenting semacam je takut uni dia tak dapat projek MMRCA tu  whistling.gif

kalau dapat F/A 18 macam Australia ada.. siap ally lagi dengan Australia, kalau boleh sign terus deal dengan kerajaan Australia buat excercise sekali, tumpang tempat dia nak buat excercise sekali maunya indon dan china gerun wehh.. bom F/A-18 tu memang gempak sungguh.

yang akan rasa paling tercabar nanti mesti jiran kita kat indon.. rasa cam tersepit sungguh je nanti.  brows.gif
pilihan yinchet yang minat sungguh F/A-18 ni sebenarnya bagus kalau nak psycho jiran kita.

selamba je diaorang pergi buat bombing excercise guna F18 tepi highway.. kalau buat kat sini maunya terus jadi bahan politik

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aku melenting sama satu brand tu je, pasal aku tau cerita sebalik tabir, macam mana dah kene sepak terajang keluar as contender pon boleh masuk balik, sedang kan semua feasebility sama SWOT stadi tu dah kata liability brand tu teruk!
tu pasal aku boleh conclude silap2 fleet lain tak terbang pasal nak jaga dia sorang.


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QUOTE(piala dunia matlamat kita @ Dec 27 2012, 09:42 PM)
aku ada fikir camtu, si atreyuangel ni melenting semacam je takut uni dia tak dapat projek MMRCA tu  whistling.gif

kalau dapat F/A 18 macam Australia ada.. siap ally lagi dengan Australia, kalau boleh sign terus deal dengan kerajaan Australia buat excercise sekali, tumpang tempat dia nak buat excercise sekali maunya indon dan china gerun wehh.. bom F/A-18 tu memang gempak sungguh.

yang akan rasa paling tercabar nanti mesti jiran kita kat indon.. rasa cam tersepit sungguh je nanti.  brows.gif
pilihan yinchet yang minat sungguh F/A-18 ni sebenarnya bagus kalau nak psycho jiran kita.

selamba je diaorang pergi buat bombing excercise guna F18 tepi highway.. kalau buat kat sini maunya terus jadi bahan politik

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If I want to choose a jetfighter it would definitely Gripen.
Malahan ia adalah paling murah dari segi operation cost.
lebih murah daripada F-16

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sekarang indonesia order banyak f-16. so these have to be look at.

Kalau pasal US part on gripen ia telah dikurangkan. favor Malaysia to buy F-18SH and lease 18Gripen.

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If I want to choose a jetfighter it would definitely Gripen.
Malahan ia adalah paling murah dari segi operation cost.
lebih murah daripada F-16

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ini fuel consumption.
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sekarang indonesia order banyak f-16. so these have to be look at.

Kalau pasal US part on gripen ia telah dikurangkan. favor Malaysia to buy F-18SH and lease 18Gripen.
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why not, but I remember the team wanted only the NG version!
since the deliver timeline would be similar!
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why not, but I remember the team wanted only the NG version!
since the deliver timeline would be similar!
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I wont surprise if the whole MMRCA deals worth around USD3bil deals.
it would be like SH + MKM trade in with migs + AEW&C.
MKM deals would be seeing MIKA + topsightI + Brahmos.
Would be a bonus if we went towards leasing gripen. - most probably with commitment on buying gripen ng in its. laugh.gif

y usd3bil?
Army gets USD3bil on av8
Navy gets USD3bil on SGPV
it would be logical if we see USD3bil for MMRCA. laugh.gif
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budget wise, should just get SH or MKM.
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I wont surprise if the whole MMRCA deals worth around USD3bil deals.
it would be like SH + MKM trade in with migs + AEW&C.
MKM deals would be seeing MIKA + topsightI + Brahmos.
Would be a bonus if we went towards leasing gripen. - most probably with commitment on buying gripen ng in its. laugh.gif

y usd3bil?
Army gets USD3bil on av8
Navy gets USD3bil on SGPV
it would be logical if we see USD3bil for MMRCA. laugh.gif
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im just wondering which aircraft will be bought
so curious xD
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im just wondering which aircraft will be bought
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budget wise, should just get SH or MKM.
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18SH + 6-18MKM.
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right now, I am much more eager for the SPGV project!
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tunggu LIMA2013 to see more agreement regrading SGPV.
I hope we get aster and nsm.
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either way wouldn't the SGPV take another 3 years to receive?
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either way wouldn't the SGPV take another 3 years to receive?
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i hope mindef take gripen.with that budget can get so many quantity.no quality lose when buying gripen
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i hope mindef take gripen.with that budget can get so many quantity.no quality lose when buying gripen
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SH, Gripen ng and Su-30mkm cost around USD55mil each.
all three are good to grab.

Rafale and EF just some overprice jetfighter. biggrin.gif
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sure as long as you are warganegara Malaysia and meet the requirement.
you can PM http://forum.lowyat.net/user/KitZhai for more info.
his thread. biggrin.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...253&hl=military


I see then you can't.
how about joining wataniah then

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hopefull SGPV not select outdated Mica VLS, at lease ESSM and NSM
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those politician just put too much bs.
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SH, Gripen ng and Su-30mkm cost around USD55mil each.
all three are good to grab.

Rafale and EF just some overprice jetfighter. biggrin.gif
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2013 SH already come with silent hornet cost expected 80mil++ with new engine, AESA, new cockpit etc, old super hornet already 70mil.
Gripen Ng and Su-30mkm already around 100mil perunit for 2013 price. we buy 50mil for su30mkm in 2003, is impossible to getting 55mil for 1 unit for 2013, also su-30 already upgrade to AESA and some electronic from su-35. price for fighter increase very fast for pass 2~3 year.

any model gov buy for MRCA it will cost around usd 2.5~3 Bil for 18 unit, if typhoon maybe more than 3.0Bil


for trend this is last few year 3/4 generation fighter can sell on market, sure all fighter manufacture will get sale many as possible. around 2018~2020 start we move to stealth fighter. the EF2000/Rafale/Su-30-35/gripen possible be phase out from market.



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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 29 2012, 11:24 PM)
2013 SH already come with silent hornet cost expected 80mil++ with new engine, AESA, new cockpit etc, old super hornet already 70mil.
Gripen Ng and Su-30mkm already around 100mil perunit for 2013 price. we buy 50mil for su30mkm in 2003, is impossible to getting 55mil for 1 unit for 2013, also su-30 already upgrade to AESA and some electronic from su-35.
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source?
SH
Old SH cost about r $42.72 million at 2010 price tag.
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewl...ag-spirali.html
btw there is no silent hornet. but there is SH block 2. under the road map.
it is expected to cost about USD55-60mil

MKM
AESA radar is not super expensive btw. it wont cost over 10mil even you take some electronic from su-35 it just wont add up to 100mil per unit.
for your info SU-35 just cost about USD65mil
http://rt.com/business/news/sukhoi-shows-o...-agile-fighter/

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source?
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Old SH cost about r $42.72 million at 2010 price tag.
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewl...ag-spirali.html
btw there is no silent hornet. but there is SH block 2. under the road map.
it is expected to cost about USD55-60mil

MKM
AESA radar is not super expensive btw. it wont cost over 10mil even you take some electronic from su-35 it just wont add up to 100mil per unit.
for your info SU-35 just cost about USD65mil
http://rt.com/business/news/sukhoi-shows-o...-agile-fighter/
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42mil is us navy home price also it is 2010, for export is different, some more our country not have military alliance with us. price sure more expensive.
Super Hornet Block III or some call silent hornet or Advance Super Hornet also. Block II already 5~6 year a go product.
went you order jet from them, they have to RnD/customize your version to suite your country communication/ data links/radar, event AEW etc this is also add to the cost, that why need 3~4 later only can delivery for your after order.




http://aviationintel.com/2011/11/06/more-i...-configuration/

Your link is 2008 estimation. Got news china maybe will buy it at 85mil each
For Su-30, India this month deal for 42 So-30mki caost usd3.0Bil , around usd 71mil each.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/N...le1-980190.aspx

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42mil is us navy home price also it is 2010, for export is different, some more our country not have military alliance with us. price sure more expensive.
Super Hornet Block III or some call silent hornet or Advance Super Hornet also.  Block II already 5~6 year a go product.
went you order jet from them, they have to RnD/customize your version to suite your country communication/ data links/radar, event AEW etc this is also add to the cost, that why need 3~4 later only can delivery for your after order.

http://aviationintel.com/2011/11/06/more-i...-configuration/

Your link is 2008 estimation. Got news china maybe will buy it at 85mil each
For Su-30, India this month deal for 42 So-30mki caost  usd3.0Bil , around usd 71mil each.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/N...le1-980190.aspx
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adui that 1 SH block 2. on international road map upgrade; it use to called silent hornet in the past few thread ago.
But it were rebrand as SH block 2.
btw have you ever heard of nato standard? all the US fighter and his allies fighter communication, data link follow nato standard
you only paid the R&D money for more powerful radar.
MKM have dual datalink standard 1 of them is Russian standard and another is Nato standard using Thales systems.

also unless you able to provide the real price tag for the SH.
in 2002 our SH package deals were around USD1.48bil
which include weapons, PESA, additional several spare engine and 18units SH.
if we went for the new SH block 2 it will cost around USD60mil at most.

you can't divide the Super sukhoi-30MKI procurement cost like that as they already conclude to add tons of improvement over its.
so expect huge portion of money in the development cost.
also you just debunk your own point on MKM cost around USD100mil.

Where is source on gripen cost about USD100mil?



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adui that 1 SH block 2. on international road map upgrade; it use to called silent hornet in the past few thread ago.
But it were rebrand as SH block 2.
btw have you ever heard of nato standard? all the US fighter and his allies fighter communication, data link follow nato standard
you only paid the R&D money for more powerful radar.
MKM have dual datalink standard 1 of them is Russian standard and another is Nato standard using Thales systems.

also unless you able to provide the real price tag for the SH.
in 2002 our SH package deals were around USD1.48bil
which include weapons, PESA, additional several spare engine and 18units SH.
if we went for the new SH block 2 it will cost around USD60mil at most.

you can't divide the Super sukhoi-30MKI procurement cost like that as they already conclude to add tons of improvement over its.
so expect huge portion of money in the development cost.
also you just debunk your own point on MKM cost around USD100mil.

Where is source on gripen cost about USD100mil?
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http://www.defensenews.com/article/2012090...se-Cuts-Sweden-
Switzerland usd 3.2bil for 22 gripen ef.

copy fr net
"Defense-Aerospace.com's July 2006 report attempting to estimate the true cost of western fighters placed the JAS-39C Gripen at over $68.9 million per plane based on the offer to Poland, and estimated the plane's program cost (R&D amotized) at $78.7 million. To give the reader a quick idea of how that benchmarks, costs for the F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet were estimated at $ 78.4/ 95.3 million, the Eurofighter at $ 100-120/ 120-145 million, and the F-35 Lightning II at $ 115 LRIP / 112.5 million. Read the full report here. The report also noted Saab's official response of $35-40 million per plane flyaway costs, however, and acknowledged the problems involved in calculating per-plane figures based on foreign orders due to other costs and terms. "


went if we buy new su30mkm, sure will buy latest improvement on on the plane, so price for 2013 estimate usd 90-100. if sh or su30mkm can get price around usd60mil, typhoon and rafale no need to work so hard. price is different to big.
nvm just see and wait next year than know.

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 30 2012, 10:35 AM)
http://www.defensenews.com/article/2012090...se-Cuts-Sweden-
Switzerland usd 3.2bil for 22 gripen ef.

copy fr net
"Defense-Aerospace.com's July 2006 report attempting to estimate the true cost of western fighters placed the JAS-39C Gripen at over $68.9 million per plane based on the offer to Poland, and estimated the plane's program cost (R&D amotized) at $78.7 million. To give the reader a quick idea of how that benchmarks, costs for the F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet were estimated at $ 78.4/ 95.3 million, the Eurofighter at $ 100-120/ 120-145 million, and the F-35 Lightning II at $ 115 LRIP / 112.5 million. Read the full report here. The report also noted Saab's official response of $35-40 million per plane flyaway costs, however, and acknowledged the problems involved in calculating per-plane figures based on foreign orders due to other costs and terms. "
went if we buy new su30mkm, sure will buy latest improvement on on the plane, so price for 2013 estimate usd 90-100. if sh or su30mkm can get price around usd60mil, typhoon and rafale no need to work so hard. price is different to big.
nvm just see and wait next year than know.
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not necessary we are going to buy the latest.
MKM would be seeing adding topsighti, mika missile and AESA radar.
Few thing to cower with the swedish and swis deals cover the development cost of Super gripen aka GripenE/F.
were eastimated to cost around USD5bil.

july 2006?
the article is way too outdated. it were already more than 6 years.
F-35 no longer be that cheap. a F-35A currently inflated up to USD170mil.

F-18SH and Gripen c cost significantly lower down compare to the said copy text.

Anyway I rest my case here.
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definitely hoping for griphen/mkm/sh
screw the others.
Malaysia doesn't need an "Apple logo" aircraft biggrin.gif
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Happy 2013 to all the Lowyat crew.

The hurdle of Malaysia's general election has to be passed before the RMAF MMRCA selection can even begin.

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The hurdle of Malaysia's general election has to be passed before the RMAF MMRCA selection can even begin.

Cheers.
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Happy New Year Xtemujin and all /k Military geng!
Yep, could be all major military procurement will be signed after GE!
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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Jan 1 2013, 12:27 PM)
atre a fighter pilot?even the entire No.20 Skn can't handle him
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Old man, That because I'm ohsem and handsome and young.... did I mention YOUNG!!!!

hahahahaha
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try to contact the mindef for more information.
Or you can always check here!

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Old man, That because I'm ohsem and handsome and young.... did I mention YOUNG!!!!

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hoho..my schoolmate is a fighter pilot at gong kedak base...not sure rank now..last time Capt "Montel"..hahaha..u know any with that nickname?
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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Jan 1 2013, 11:44 PM)
hoho..my schoolmate is a fighter pilot at gong kedak base...not sure rank now..last time Capt "Montel"..hahaha..u know any with that nickname?
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if gong kedak must be with the MKM!
I can ask around hahahaha
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 2 2013, 12:09 AM)
if gong kedak must be with the MKM!
I can ask around hahahaha
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Kuching AFB got what skuadron?

my bro got send there.. next month i think...
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QUOTE(sleep_snore @ Jan 2 2013, 12:16 AM)
Kuching AFB got what skuadron?

my bro got send there.. next month i think...
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fighter is
Hawk and Hornet but under rotation basics!

other is transport and heli squadron!
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 2 2013, 12:17 AM)
fighter is
Hawk and Hornet but under rotation basics!

other is transport and heli squadron!
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he said he almost sure that he wont be in fixed-wing..

segan nak tanya lebih2.. kang dia cakap, aku yang solja kau pulak yang excited.. hahaha biggrin.gif
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Old man, That because I'm ohsem and handsome and young.... did I mention YOUNG!!!!

hahahahaha
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its not like im that old.one civilian year equals five infantry years
QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jan 2 2013, 12:09 AM)
if gong kedak must be with the MKM!
I can ask around hahahaha
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go figure,anyone with the name montel is either in the air force or armoured corps
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my bro got send there.. next month i think...
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Kuching?

kesian..
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QUOTE(sleep_snore @ Jan 2 2013, 12:25 AM)
he said he almost sure that he wont be in fixed-wing..

segan nak tanya lebih2.. kang dia cakap, aku yang solja kau pulak yang excited.. hahaha biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Jan 2 2013, 12:27 AM)
its not like im that old.one civilian year equals five infantry years

go figure,anyone with the name montel is either in the air force or armoured corps
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wait.. you in mechanize, what is the difference?

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We are more grounded towards our british roots.the armoured corps only has tanks and recce vehicles,mech is under infantry branch.

KAD je letak mech dan tanks bawah satu administration

we don't have the manpower like you guys to organise units into divisions

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minimun height 1.62 cm?An asian army looking for tall people?good luck

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what about all the shorties?the army is missing the biggest recruiting markets.the small and the idiots

I don't see a reason for such stringent minimum height requirement except for availability of clothing

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what about all the shorties?the army is missing the biggest recruiting markets.the small and the idiots

I don't see a reason for minimum height  requirement except for availability of clothing
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SEALs have lean bodies because they spend a lot of time in the water

muscles are for insecure pussies!
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SEALs have lean bodies because they spend a lot of time in the water

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and i know it's late..still, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

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EC-725 Akan Ditempatkan di Kuantan dan Sabah

Perolehan pesawat

Beliau berkata, perolehan kesemua 12 buah pesawat EC725 akan selesai menjelang 2014.

"Pada awal bulan ini, kita telah terima dua buah helikopter ini. Insya-Allah pada tahun 2013 kita akan terima sembilan lagi dan yang terakhir akan diterima pada awal tahun 2014.

"Saya yakin menjelang tahun 2015, kesemua helikopter berserta anak-anak kapal akan beroperasi sepenuhnya iaitu bagi melaksanakan setiap tugas yang diberikan," katanya.

Mengenai aspek penempatan, beliau berkata, lapan Eurocopter akan ditempatkan di Pangkalan Udara Kuantan di sini manakala empat lagi di Pangkalan Udara Labuan, Sabah.

Katanya, kriteria utama pemilihan kedua-dua pangkalan udara itu adalah berdasarkan pada kepentingan strategik, kawasan operasi serta infrastruktur yang sedia ada.

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Extended Endurance Could Get C295AEW Back on the Indonesian Radar

Posted by Tamir Eshel

Airbus Military has begun flight-testing a modification to add winglets to the C295 medium transport and surveillance aircraft – one of a series of product developments underway on the market-leading type.

By increasing the lift-drag ratio the winglets are expected to improve performance in the takeoff, climb and cruise phases of the flight. For the C295 these extensions would contribute to hot and high runway performance, increased range and endurance, and reduced fuel consumption – driving lower operating costs.

The first flight of the wingletted Airborne Early Warning (AEW) configured aircraft took place in Spain on 21 December. Data from the flight test program will help evaluate the potential benefit and feasibility to incorporate winglets into the C295 design.

Extending the mission endurance of this aircraft is considered a critical requirement for Airbus Military, in order to meet the Indonesian Air Force requirement for Airborne Early Warning aircraft. Indonesia is already shopping for such aircraft, and, according to Air Force Chief of Staff ACM Imam Sufaat, larger platforms would be required for the country’s AEW mission, particularly in terms of endurance. It is expected that the improvements gained by those winglets would be sufficient to get the C295 into the game. The Indonesian market is considered a strategic market for the aircraft. In early 2012 Indonesia placed an order for nine C295 aircraft, the first delivered by the end of last year. Airbus Military is also helping its local partner PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PT DI) to modernize its manufacturing facilities to enable local assembly of these planes.

Few months earlier Airbus Military and missile developer MBDA performed flight demonstration of an armed C295 maritime patrol aircraft, carrying an instrumented Marte MK2/S anti-ship inert missile installed under the left wing. The flight was the first of a series of trials planned in a joint Airbus Military – MBDA collaboration to validate the aerodynamic integration of Marte on the C295. Subsequent flights will include handling qualities tests and aircraft flight performance tests. The C295 will be the first fixed-wing aircraft configuration for the missile. Marte Mk2/S is already integrated on the AW-101 and the NFH-90 naval helicopters.

The MBDA Marte MK2/S missile is a fire-and-forget, all-weather, medium-range sea-skimming anti-ship weapon system, equipped with inertial mid-course guidance and radar homing terminal guidance, and capable of destroying small vessels and heavily damaging major vessels. The missile has a weight of 310 Kg and is 3.85 m long. In the anti-submarine warfare (ASW) role, the C295 is already in-service carrying the MK46 torpedo.

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Published: 5/01/2013 at 12:00 AM
   
Ukraine will deliver its first batch of T-84 Oplot main battle tanks to the army in May, army chief Prayuth Chan-ocha said yesterday.

Under the staggered delivery schedule, five of the tanks will be delivered in May, with another 50 tanks due by the end of 2015, he said. The army has ordered a total of 200 of the tanks.

During recent talks with the Ukraine government, Gen Prayuth said he had requested a speedier delivery of the battle tanks.

The first round of five tanks will be used for training purposes, he said.

Gen Prayuth said he had inspected an Oplot tank during a recent trip to Ukraine and believed the army was getting good value for money in terms of firepower and combat capabilities.

Most of the army's current armoured vehicles were purchased from Western countries, where prices were comparatively high, he said.

The procurement drew criticism from soldiers when the deal was announced in 2011. The Oplot tanks are equipped with an auto-loader that requires the tanks to stop moving when ammunition has been used up and new loading is necessary.

An army source told the Bangkok Post in 2011 that in a combat situation, tank crews generally prefer the relilability of a manual ammunition-loading system.


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QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 4 2013, 12:26 PM)
C295 AEW used israel system, so no hope goverment will buy it.
Hopefully RMAF consider Saab2000 Erieye AEW&C too, please dont buy Saab340 AEW, price just 40% more, but get double performance

Saab2000 AEW&C
- detect range 450km
- range more than 3600km
- cruise speed 600km
- endurance 9.5 hour
- price only 160/170million

Saab340 AEW
- detect range 250km
- range around 2000km
- cruise speed 450km (too slow, hard follow jet fighter)
- endurance 4~6 hour
- price around 120million

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Contract for 126 Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft Rafale
A year on, deal with Dasault not in sight
By KV Prasad | Tribune News Service | 5 January 2013 Saturday

Contrary to expectations of an early push towards finalising the contract for the 126 Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) for the Indian Air Force, the deal will not be signed before the current financial year comes to an end in March this year.

The IAF is keen that the negotiations are concluded and the way is paved to finalise the multi-billion dollar deal with the French manufacturer Dasault Aviation for its Rafale ominrole fighter plane.

Sources in the Ministry of Defence told The Tribune that there was no possibility that the contract can be signed in the current financial year. While the negotiations started after Dassault was declared the lowest bidder in January 2012, indications are that the discussions between the Contract Negotiation Committee and the French company is far from over.

Dassault Aviation Chief Executive Officer Charles Edelstenne, scheduled to demit office next week, told a French Parliamentary panel last month that while there was “relative optimism” over the progress of talks. He acknowledged the negotiations were tough. “We are deep in talks at the moment. It’s a complicated country, the negotiations are tough, but there is a desire to wrap up on both sides,” Edelstenne told the panel.

The contract envisages that of the 126 aircraft, 18 will be in fly-away condition while the rest will be license produced by the public sector Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) that will do the final assembly. Reports indicate that among the points of discussion was a suggestion by the French manufacturer that it be allowed decide on the quantum of work to be done by the HAL and private enterprise in India, to cater to the 50 per cent offset clause in the deal.

However, last week a news agency reported that the Ministry of Defence insisted that the HAL remain the lead integrator since any deviation in the tender floated in 2007 would require it be taken back to the Defence Acquisition Council for approval.

In the meantime, the Defence Ministry received a jolt in the form of Rs 10,000 crore cut from the Rs.79,578 crore capital expenditure in the 2012-13 annual budget, putting a question mark on many acquisitions that the three services — Army, Navy and IAF — were planning. The Ministry of Finance intimated the Defence Ministry of the budget cut which comes at a time when the tri-services were seeking to accelerate modernisation programme.

Depending on the progress of negotiations and sorting out issues including re-evaluating the controversy on the process leading to the declaration of the lowest bidder, the government will be left with a narrow window to sign the deal before preparations for the 2014 General Election set-in.

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The burial of the late Termenggung Datuk Kanang anak Langkau (SP, PGB, PGBK)
Date : 6 Januari 2013 (Ahad).
Time : 2.30 petang.
Place : Heroes Grave, Taman Budaya, Kuching, Sarawak.
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6 more countries offer to sell warships to Philippines - DND

By:  Abigail Kwok, InterAksyon.com
January 6, 2013 11:07 AM

MANILA - At least six foreign countries are offering frigates to the Philippines after the Department of National Defense (DND) expressed interest in purchasing at least two more warships to boost territorial defense amid the dispute at West Philippine Sea.

Fernando Manalo, Defense Undersecretary for finance, munitions, installations and materiel, disclosed that aside from Italy, countries that are offering their frigates are South Korea, Spain, United States, Israel, Croatia, and Australia.

Manalo said that earlier, the Philippines is only eyeing the refurbished Maestrale-class frigates from the Italian navy worth over P11 billion, but more countries have made their offers in the latter part of 2012.

“Other countries are now just being convinced that the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) is serious in its efforts to make itself stronger and more credible,” Manalo said.

Manalo further disclosed that some of the countries were offering brand new frigates. He added that the DND is still in the process of conducting studies to determine which type of frigate will be best for the country.

He said the department hopes to come up with a decision by the end of January. “Within this month something must happen,” Manalo said.

“Due diligence is being exercised here because we are talking of billions of pesos,” he added.

Meanwhile, the AFP’s Western Command has not monitored any Chinese vessels on disputed territories at West Philippine Sea.

Air reconnaissance conducted Thursday showed no signs of Chinese warships, said Lieutenant General Juancho Sabban, Western Command commander.

“As per information from my commanders, we conducted aerial recon (Thursday), we didn’t see any of the new vessels that China said they will deploy to West Philippine Sea, and I understand also that from reports (that) China already retracted its statement that they will board and search all vessels passing through West Philippine Sea. I think this is a good development,” Sabban said.


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BUTTERWORTH: Sekumpulan tahanan dalam perjalanan dari Penjara Reman Pulau Pinang ke Mahkamah Butterworth, melarikan sebuah van polis selepas membelasah empat anggota polis pengiring di Lebuh Raya Lingkaran Luar Butterworth berhampiran susur keluar ke Pantai Bersih di sini, pagi ini.

Dalam kejadian kira-kira jam 9.30 pagi tadi, sebahagian daripada sembilan tahanan terbabit dikatakan mencetuskan kekecohan dengan bergaduh sesama sendiri menyebabkan kenderaan itu diberhentikan di tepi jalan dekat Pantai Bersih di sini.
Ketua Polis Negeri, Datuk Abdul Rahim Hanafi, berkata empat anggota polis yang mengiringi tahanan terbabit turun dari kenderaan untuk meleraikan pergaduhan tahanan terbabit.

“Tiba-tiba seorang daripada tahanan membaling serbuk cili ke arah anggota kami sebelum melakukan serangan. Tahanan itu membelasah anggota terbabit dan meninggalkan mereka di tepi jalan sebelum melarikan kenderaan polis,” katanya kepada pemberita selepas melawat empat anggota terbabit yang mendapatkan rawatan pesakit luar di Hospital Seberang Jaya, petang tadi.


Abdul Rahim berkata, van polis itu ditemui ditinggalkan di Padang Cempedak kira-kira 20 kilometer dari tempat kejadian di mana tujuh tahanan melarikan diri manakala dua lagi tahanan tidak berbuat demikian dan ditahan semula.


“Kita percaya kejadian ini dirancang lebih awal dan pergaduhan sesama tahanan di dalam van berkenaan sengaja diadakan bagi melarikan diri,” katanya menjelaskan gerakan memburu tahanan terbabit giat dijalankan terutama di sekitar Kampung Tun Sardon, Tasek Gelugor.

Polis juga mengeluarkan beberapa gambar suspek bagi memudahkan pegecaman dan meminta orang ramai menghubungi balai polis berdekatan jika mempunyai maklumat mengenai tahanan yang melepaskan diri itu.
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 6 2013, 05:55 PM)
C295 AEW used israel system, so no hope goverment will buy it.
Hopefully RMAF consider Saab2000 Erieye AEW&C too, please dont buy Saab340 AEW, price just 40% more, but get double performance
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Both are using Erieye AEW.
the only differ is they use differ aircraft.
Saab2000 aircraft no longer on production.
the same for Saab 340 no longer on production.

Saab 340 is the 1st aircraft fitted with Erieye systems by the Swedish airforce.

We are more likely to get ERJ 145 aircraft aka R-99A.
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Click "Going" to attend the talk in FB.

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Brazil's air force has selected Embraer's Le Bourget-based subsidiary Embraer Aviation International to modernise its fleet of five EMB-145-derived E-99 airborne early warning and control system aircraft.

Valued at almost $114 million and contracted in late December, the programme is primarily aimed at updating the surveillance aircraft's onboard mission sensors. It also follows the 6 December award of a deal with Brazil's Mectron that covers the development of the Link BR2 data link system. This will equip the modernised E-99s as of 2016, along with the service's modernised Northrop F-5EM, Embraer/Aermacchi A-1M and Embraer A-29 Super Tucano combat aircraft.

The air force has refrained from providing further details regarding the E-99 modernisation programme. However, Brazilian sources indicate that the aircraft will receive enhancements to its electronic warfare and electronic support measures suites and command and control systems, plus updates to its Saab Microwave Systems PS-890 Erieye surveillance radar.

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US appache Helicopter left in Pakistan found in China
This was sold by Pakistan to China.. after US special forces left this during the Osama bin Laden in a covert raid last May in the garrison town of Abbottabad, Pakistan .. China for sure will copy the design and most possibly the top secret military equipment inside

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US appache Helicopter left in Pakistan found in China
This was sold by Pakistan to China.. after US special forces left this during the Osama bin Laden  in a covert  raid last May in the garrison town of Abbottabad, Pakistan .. China for sure will copy the design and most possibly the top secret military equipment inside

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Hmm got apache crash? Tot its one of the special blackhawk craft that went down O.o
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India selects the A330 MRTT
By Australianaviation.com.au | 10 January 2013 Thursday | 4:44 pm

The Indian government has formally announced the selection of the Airbus Military A330 Multi Role Tanker Transport (MRTT) as the Indian Air Force’s (IAF’s) new tanker aircraft.

The announcement followed a lengthy selection process which included flight demonstrations in India by an A330 MRTT during which the aircraft refuelled multiple types of IAF fighters and operated from the high-altitude IAF base at Leh. Airbus Military says “detailed negotiations will now begin which it is expected will lead to the award of a final production contract for an envisaged six aircraft in 2013.”

Airbus Military CEO Domingo Ureña Raso said: “We are grateful for the confidence shown in our company by the Government of India and the Indian Air Force, and we appreciate the detailed and fair appraisal of the competing products which they have conducted. This has been a long and tough competition and we are honoured to have been selected.”

A total of 28 A330 MRTTs have now been ordered by Australia, India, Saudi Arabia, the UAE and the UK.

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Indonesia to accelerate military modernisation programme
                 
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The Indonesian government has brought forward its military modernisation programme delivery schedule to 2019 instead of 2024 in a bid to accelerate strategic force development.

Addressing a press conference, Indonesian defence minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro Purnomo said that the government had decided to cut the military modernisation period from three to two strategic plan (Renstra) periods.

In a bid to enhance capabilities within 15 years, Indonesia commenced its massive military development programme in 2010 with the procurement of modern armaments, military vehicles and high technology equipment for equipping all of the armed forces.

Around US$16.7 billion was funded by the Indonesian government in the first Renstra period, which will end in 2015.

As part of the modernisation programme, the nation has, to date, taken delivery of Sukhoi Su-30 fighter jets, Korea Aerospace Industries KT 1 Wongbee trainer/light attack planes, Embraer Tucano anti-insurgency planes and Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) Leopard main battle tanks as well as several new warships and submarines.

A joint cooperation agreement has also been established between Indonesia and South Korea to develop about 200 4.5 generation fighter jets, also known as KFX, with initial prototypes scheduled for 2020.

The country is also scheduled to receive 24 Lockheed Martin F-16 C/D fighter jets from the US and has allocated funds to equip its Army with Boeing AH 64 Apache helicopters.


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Have to pass through the Malaysian General Election first.

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Philippine Coast Guard to receive 10 patrol boats from Japan

By Tina G. Santos
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4:41 pm | Saturday, January 12th, 2013

MANILA, Philippines–The Philippine Coast Guard is set to hire some 300 new personnel to man 10 new patrol boats expected to arrive from Japan.

PCG spokesman Commander Armand Balilo said they would prioritize applicants who would fit the qualifications of those who will man the new acquisitions.

“We need to recruit people with maritime-related courses such as marine engineers and marine navigation course. But we would also be needing technical experts such as those who have mechanical, welding and electrical skills or background,” said Balilo.

Foreign Affairs Secretary Albert Del Rosario discussed with Japanese Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida, during the latter’s visit early this week, a loan agreement for the Philippines’ procurement of 10 multi-role response vessels for the Coast Guard.

The new patrol vessels, which are expected to arrive in 2014, are expected to boost the country’s territorial defense in the West Philippine Sea.

PCG usually accepts applicants who finished even non-maritime-related courses.

“But we should now prepare for our new assets. We should prepare the right people or the crew and asset management team who would be in charge of our new vessels’ maintenance,” Balilo explained.

He added that they have one year to hire the needed personnel, who would be assigned for deck operation, navigation, gunnery and engineering.

Those who would be selected would undergo one-year training on board the new ships.


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Leopard Contract Signed

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta: The Ministry of Defense signed a contract to procure approximately 100 units of Leopard main battle tank with Rheinmetall, a Leopard manufacturer from Germany. "(The purchase agreement) was signed in mid-December," Head of Defense Facilities at the Ministry of Defense, Major General Ediwan Prabowo, said yesterday.

The contract, Ediwan said, has a smaller value than the initial budget of US$ 280 million. Albeit refusing to mention the actual contract worth, Ediwan ensured that the technical specifications and the number of tanks to be produced are the same as the initial agreement.

The purchase of the 63-ton tanks, Ediwan added, comes with the technology transfer agreement signed last November. "PT Pindad and The Army Central Workshop will receive training cooperation to improve mild to severe damages in the tanks," he said.

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Fresh delay hits UK complex weapons programmes

The UK Ministry of Defence has yet to decide on a future use for its Fire Shadow loitering munition system, despite having already invested more than £200 million ($320 million) in developing the capability, the government's National Audit Office spending watchdog has revealed.

A result of the UK's Team Complex Weapons initiative and led by guided weapons specialist MBDA, the Fire Shadow project culminated with firings conducted at the Vidsel test range in Sweden.

The British Army had intended to conduct a trial deployment with the roughly 54nm (100km) range system in Afghanistan from March 2012, but dropped the plan; a decision which the NAO says was influenced in part by "system maturity".

"The Department is deciding on the future of this project, which it has spent £207 million to date developing," the body says in its Major Projects Report, published on 10 January.

In another setback for the UK's complex weapons activities, the NAO also reveals that the launch of full development work on its planned Future Anti-Surface Guided Weapon (Heavy) has been delayed, pending the outcome of a government spending review being conducted by intended programme partner France.

The collaboration was originally intended to provide a new anti-ship missile for use by naval helicopters from around 2015. However, the NAO warns: "There will now be at least a 19-month gap between the existing capability leaving service and the new missile being available."

The MoD could potentially decide to extend the life of its existing MBDA Sea Skua weapons as a result of the delay, it says.

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anyone in KL look at the sky recently?
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anyone in KL look at the sky recently?
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nope..not in kl..in penang...
no birds except airliners.... sad.gif
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Jan 14 2013, 02:13 PM)
nope..not in kl..in penang...
no birds except airliners....  sad.gif
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well, if you're in KL maybe you could get a glimpse of something!
hehehe can't tell you what it is!
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well, if you're in KL maybe you could get a glimpse of something!
hehehe can't tell you what it is!
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jgan potong stim nie...
drillz drillz!!!

can see this ke?

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Jan 14 2013, 02:24 PM)
post drillz lar..
jgan potong stim nie...
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can see this ke?

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well, if you're in KL maybe you could get a glimpse of something!
hehehe can't tell you what it is!
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i see a chopper take off from Sg.besi airport from far away, but kenot id.
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i see a chopper take off from Sg.besi airport from far away, but kenot id.
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last friday that thing flown very low at the KL area!
maybe some lucky chap did get a good looks!

but they still do this around Malaysia!

keep your eyes open! esp in KL
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US Army fields first AH-64E unit, but more improvements to come

By:  Dave Majumdar Washington DC
11:38 9 Jan 2013 
 
Even as the US Army moves forward with fielding its first unit of Boeing AH-64E Block III attack helicopters, the service is planning to add further improvements to the Apache gunship.

"Right now, we are currently fielding the first unit equipped, our FUE [first unit equipped] unit, with Echo-models, and we're on track to meet that fielding schedule," says Col Jeff Hager, the army's Apache programme manager.

Hager adds that Boeing has delivered 28 of 51 low-rate initial production AH-64Es that it is contracted to build. This year, the company will start producing full-rate production aircraft for an eventual total of 634 helicopters.

But even as the AH-64E transitions into full-rate production, some systems engineering work remains, Hager says. The changes, which will come in production Lots 4 through 6, include better embedded diagnostics for improved maintenance. The Apache will also gain the Link-16 data-link, which is typically found on fixed-wing combat aircraft. It will also be afforded improvements to its mast-mounted APG-78 Longbow fire control radar, which will improve range and add overwater capability.

Hager says that the army has not quite decided how the overwater capability would be used, but he says the Longbow radar in concert with the Lockheed Martin AGM-114 Hellfire missile could be used to attack landing craft or small warships. In the future, active electronically scanned array radar could be added to the aircraft.

Another addition will be the cognitive decision aiding system (CDAS), Hager says. CDAS is designed "to help the pilot and the crew with some of those tasks that tend to get a little cumbersome at times," he says. "It'll help him in those tasks in specific."

The army also intends to support Boeing's efforts to sell the Apache overseas, Hager says. Boeing's attack helicopter vice president, Dave Koopersmith, says that the company has seen an uptick in interest internationally for the Apache recently. "We have more demand signals for this dominant capability in this attack helicopter space," he says.


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last friday that thing flown very low at the KL area!
maybe some lucky chap did get a good looks!

but they still do this around Malaysia!

keep your eyes open! esp in KL
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very long time no go into mymil also d..dunno my account kena removed d or not...
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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Jan 14 2013, 04:31 PM)
mymil got or not..? if yes i login there and have a look...post link sat...
very long time no go into mymil also d..dunno my account kena removed d or not...
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mymil got hint!
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mymil got hint!
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QUOTE(xsaed @ Jan 14 2013, 04:39 PM)
i saw this morning...looks like a missile trace....
damn i know it

its gray in color... short streak

if its water vapor it'll be white and looooooooooooooong
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got link ar mang..? mymil tered also melambak lar...  sweat.gif
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kene carik la bang, cube tanye ke!
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QUOTE(xsaed @ Jan 14 2013, 04:57 PM)
is it?  an AAM?
i still dont feel safe tho,
this country needs SAM. alot of SAM

look at syria, no NATO/west dare to move in to do airstrike like in Libya...

p/s: if they test a missile, the remains will fall somewhere rite. isn't it risky to do it over KL?
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oh not an AAM!
but that things also see action in Libya!
muhahahahha
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oh not an AAM!
but that things also see action in Libya!
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Rafale in the testing?
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heard some loud bang but didnt manage to see what it is when it went passed
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heard some loud bang but didnt manage to see what it is when it went passed
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was that the noise I heard also? somebody did sonic boom? pulis kena install AES in the sky la after this..
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it was last week... late evening.... ntah betul ke tak lol
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http://mymil.forums2u.com/t1184p765-semban...abit-v40#150711

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dah agak dah... main banner is obvious lol
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so..., we're getting Rafale? Any speculation of what kind of package we'll get?
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so..., we're getting Rafale? Any speculation of what kind of package we'll get?
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was that the noise I heard also? somebody did sonic boom? pulis kena install AES in the sky la after this..
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haha, pilot TUDm suma mat rempit, habis duit bayo saman laa!

QUOTE(nairud @ Jan 14 2013, 05:34 PM)
it was last week... late evening.... ntah betul ke tak lol
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yep, last week was the most sighted, btw another hint!

there was two of them!

QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 14 2013, 05:34 PM)
hehehehe
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The 2013 LIMA, Malaysia, List of Attending Aircraft has been updated.

Looks like the JUPITER AEROBATIC TEAM, TNI AU will be the aerobatic team display.

From Dzirhan tweet, the A400M is still tentative.

http://www.lima.com.my/liveDemo.html

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The 2013 LIMA, Malaysia List of Attending Aircraft has been updated.

Looks like the JUPITER AEROBATIC TEAM, TNI AU will be the aerobatic team display.

From Dzirhan tweet, the A400M is still tentative.

http://www.lima.com.my/liveDemo.html
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This will be the first showcase of the RMAF EC725 to the Malaysian general public.

I'm not too sure if the RSAF is sending the F16C or F16D.

Do catch the RAAF E-7A WEDGETAIL AEWC, Tophat.

2011 MAR Australia International Airshow and Aerospace and Defence Exposition, Avalon Airshow, Australia

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Jan 14 2013, 10:39 PM)
This will be the first showcase of the RMAF EC725 to the Malaysian general public.

I'm not too sure if the RSAF is sending the F16C or F16D.

Do catch the RAAF E-7A WEDGETAIL AEWC, Tophat.

2011 MAR Australia International Airshow and Aerospace and Defence Exposition, Avalon Airshow, Australia
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This morning i read newspaper and i see this ads:

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


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QUOTE(lcy851031 @ Jan 15 2013, 02:06 PM)
This morning i read newspaper and i see this ads:

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Dassault so hard sell their jet fighter to Malaysia?  hmm.gif
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Bae and Boeing also has done it at the past.
LIMA fever is getting hot!
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AgustaWestland Wins First Wildcat Export Deal With South Korea
By Sangwon Yoon and Robert Wall | 15 January 2013 Tuesday

Finmeccanica SpA (FNC)’s AgustaWestland has won a first export order for the AW159 Wildcat after South Korea said it would buy eight of the helicopters to strengthen its navy’s ability to combat ships and submarines.

South Korea will receive four Wildcats in 2015 and four more in 2016 under a 589 billion won ($560 million) deal, the government’s Defense Acquisition Program Administration said in a statement. A team of United Technologies Corp. (UTX)’s Sikorsky helicopter arm and Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT), offering the MH-60R used by the U.S. Navy, was the losing bidder, DAPA said.

AgustaWestland and its U.S. rival are battling over one of the hot markets for military exports as countries from Europe to Asia look for ways to improve their ability to protect vital sea lanes. South Korea has had several naval standoffs with North Korea in recent years, driving interest in strengthening its defenses.

“The maritime helicopter will be able to carry out a variety of missions,” DAPA spokesman Baek Youn Hyeong told reporters in Seoul. “It expands our capabilities against suspicious enemy ships and submarines,” and can be used for anti-terrorism operations, he said.

U.S. bidders in South Korea often have an advantage because of the close military alliance between the countries. In terms of interoperability, often a deciding factor in South Korean competitions, the MH-60R scored better than the Wildcat, said Kim Seung Bok, director of maritime aircraft. However, the Wildcat offer was more compelling overall, he said.

Operational Suitability
The AW159 came out ahead on cost, operational suitability and other contractual elements, Baek said. Negotiating industrial and technology returns that AgustaWestland will deliver to South Korea delayed the contract announcement, he said.

AgustaWestland was the incumbent in South Korea, which has already bought 25 Lynx helicopters, an earlier model. The Wildcat will provide greater range and lift capability than the model now in service, Kim said. The helicopter is powered by two LHTEC CTS 800 engines built by a joint venture of Rolls-Royce Holdings Plc (RR/) and Honeywell International Inc. (HON)

The commitment is a boost for the Italian helicopter maker after the MH-60R ousted the Lynx in Denmark last year. The MH- 60R also won a deal in Australia.

The U.K. is lead customer for the Wildcat, with plans to field 34 for the army and 28 for the Royal Navy. The first Wildcats were delivered to the British military last year.

The AW159 and MH-60R are squaring off in several other markets, particularly the Middle East where Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates are considering purchases. Malaysia also may add a maritime helicopter purchase to its next defense plan.

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CRYSTAL CITY, Va. --- The Royal Thai Navy has signed a Letter of Offer and Acceptance with the U.S. government to purchase nine Evolved SeaSparrow Missiles for its two Naresuan frigates currently undergoing overhauls and upgrades. This LOA increases the total ESSM user community to 13 nations.

The Royal Thai ESSMs will be fired from an MK 41 eight-cell vertical launch system using an MK 25 Quad Pack canister. This capability will allow for up to 32 ESSMs on each ship.

"This agreement brings the enhanced kinematics of the ESSM to the Royal Thai Navy's inventory and provides unsurpassed defense against a new generation of threats," said Rick Nelson, vice president of Raytheon Missile Systems' Naval and Area Mission Defense product line. "The addition of the ESSM will provide the Royal Thai Navy an unmatched ship self-defense capability, as well as allowing the fleet to take advantage of future spiral evolutions of the missile."

With 18 industrial partners representing 10 nations, ESSM is the world's premier international cooperative missile production program. ESSM is a key component of Raytheon's portfolio of products that provides a global layered defense capability to meet the needs of diverse platforms, combat system design and theaters of operation. Recently a ground-launched version of ESSM was introduced to apply the same solutions against late-detect and highly capable threats on land as found in the sea-based missile. Testing is under way on this ground-launched variant.

Raytheon Company, with 2011 sales of $25 billion and 71,000 employees worldwide, is a technology and innovation leader specializing in defense, homeland security and other government markets throughout the world. Raytheon is headquartered in Waltham, Mass.


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US Fighters Join Japan's F-15s Over The Disputed East China Sea Islands

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Russian MoD promised that Russian Knights or Swifts to participate for 2013 LIMA, but must be patient until final confirmation.
 
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By Indo Asian News Service | IANS India Private Limited – 10 hrs ago

Jakarta, Jan 16 (IANS) In a bid to modernise its naval fleet, Indonesia will procure three frigates from Britain, the Indonesian defence minister said Wednesday.

Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro conveyed Indonesia's intention to purchase the ships during his meeting with his British counterpart Philip Hammond, Xinhua reported.

"The agreement on the purchase of those ships was conducted on transfer-of-technology basis so as to enable Indonesia in producing that kind of ships in the future," Purnomo said.

An Indonesian team would be sent to Britain to examine the ship's specifications.

Defence Deputy Minister Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin said the meeting also discussed the issue of joint military exercises.

He said the frigates would not take a significant portion of the 81 trillion rupiah ($8.4 billion) from the budget allotted to finance procurement of military equipment this year.

Indonesia has already sealed contracts with the British defence industry on supply of parts for Hawk jets and Scorpion battle tanks.


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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Jan 16 2013, 08:12 PM)
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$190 million drone coming to Australia
By Asher Moses | 16 January 2013 Wednesday

An unmanned British stealth drone that can fly faster than the speed of sound and go undetected by radar will soon have its first test flight in Australia.

The £125 million ($190 million) Taranis, named after the Celtic god of thunder, can attack targets across continents, automatically dodge missiles and other efforts to bring it down and independently identify targets. It can refuel in mid-air and carry weapons including laser guided bombs and missiles.

Designed to avoid having to put human lives at risk on long and dangerous missions, the drone will be flown for the first time in a series of tests over the Australian outback early this year, Britain's Telegraph reported.

The maker of the drone, BAE Systems, conducts much of its unmanned aircraft work and research in Australia, with its engineering hub based in Melbourne. BAE did not respond to a request for comment but told the Telegraph that Taranis will "have a major impact on the future of the UK military".

With a length of 12.5 metres and a wingspan of 10 metres, Taranis is purportedly even more advanced than current US drones such as the Reaper and Predator.

Drones have become a mainstay of warfare but are shrouded in secrecy. The US, ramping up its drone program under President Barack Obama, has used them against "kill list" targets in place such as Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.


About 95 per cent of targeted killings since the September 11 terrorist attacks have been conducted by drones, ProPublica reported. The US drone war has been carried out remotely from the US as well as through secret bases around the world, including from Australia.

Andrew Davies, senior analyst of defence capability at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, said the Australian Army and the Royal Australian Air Force have used surveillance drones but not armed ones.

He said he believed that for Britain's Taranis tests Australia appealed because it contains a lot of wide open spaces with next to no electromagnetic signals. He believed the tests would take place around Woomera in South Australia.

The Department of Defence in Canberra said a number of countries including Britain use Australia for tests of this type due to larger range areas with less congested airspace.

"For security reasons, details of the location and timing of specific tests or trials of this type are classified and not disclosed prior to the trials," a Defence spokesman said.

During the test flight Taranis will reportedly fly a simulated mission where it must seek out potential targets and avoid threats such as ground to air missiles. Once it identifies a target, it will only attack after given the all clear by mission command.

But Davies believes it is only a matter of time before drones are making decisions for themselves.

"I think there's certainly some things to be concerned about; if you look at what's called Moore's Law, which is something in the world of computers that says that processing power essentially doubles every 18 months or two years, [and] it's inevitable that there will be machines sooner rather than later that are able to evaluate the environment around them and make their own decisions," he said.

"When you look at that in its application to warfare that opens the possibilities of systems that you just let go and they make their own targeting decisions. I think there are both ethical and practical problems with that."

He said drones such as Taranis were designed from the start as a "weapons delivery platform" but drones currently in use "are really surveillance drones that have had weapons bolted on to them".

It is estimated about 3000 people have been killed in US drone strikes, including hundreds of civilians which has led to significant controversy. Australian academics have previously told Fairfax Media that the expanding drone program poses human rights and privacy risks and there is a very real danger they could fall into the hands of those aiming to hurt the West.

Davies said the appeal of drone technology for the military was that unlike manned aircraft they "have the ability to hang around almost indefinitely".

"Any form of air strike runs the risk of civilian casualties on the ground and it doesn't matter whether it's manned or unmanned," he said.

"Like most aspects of warfare there are upsides and downsides to it ... it has been very effective in targeting particularly the leadership of Al Qaeda but it has a downside in terms of both the incidental killing of civilians and the anger it creates in local communities."

In parallel with the military applications, civilian use of drones has been ramping up in Australia in areas such as real estate, mining, environmental surveying and emergency services. In October last year hobbyists used a drone to find a "missing" bushwalker with no human intervention as part of a CSIRO competition.

Boeing subsidiary Insitu Pacific, based in Australia, has trialled its Scan Eagle drones for use in bushfire monitoring and for tracking marine mammals around oil and gas fields in Australia, managing director Andrew Duggan told Fairfax Media.

"We're really trying to turn the focus of these systems on to replacing or supplementing manned aircraft in missions where pilots and air crew might be at risk," he said.

Duggan said he had also had interest from potential clients who want to use drones for shark spotting and for pollution monitoring on the Great Barrier Reef.

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Global reach: Rheinmetall wins €280 million in new air defence orders from Asia and the Middle East
21 January 2013 Monday

The Rheinmetall Group has recently booked a number of important air defence contracts. Malaysia, Kuwait and one other Asian country have all ordered air defence hardware and/or services from the Düsseldorf, Germany-based company, with a total value of around €280 million. The orders encompass solutions for ground, air and naval units.

Rheinmetall will be equipping Malaysia with a total of twelve fire control radars (TMX/EO Mk2) and six electro-optical systems (TMEO Mk2) for six new patrol boats. This is a breakthrough order for a new generation of high-performance systems whose basic components were all developed in-house.

Together with spare parts and training, the order also includes a transfer of know-how to Malaysia, which will enable local industry to take an active part in the project. Delivery of the systems will commence in 2015 and continue through to 2020.

The Malaysian Navy’s new “Second Generation Patrol Vessels Littoral Combat Ships” (SGPV LCS), play a significant role in safeguarding regional sea lanes, where piracy poses a major threat to commercial shipping. Fire control technology from Rheinmetall will form a crucial element in the OPV’s shipboard technology, controlling the vessel’s primary and secondary armament. This important order underscores Rheinmetall’s increasing importance as a supplier of advanced technology to the world’s navies.


One other customer nation in Asia has selected the Oerlikon Skyshield to serve as a stationary air defence system for protecting its air force installations. The recently concluded framework contract encompasses six systems and the accompanying ammunitions and logistics, together with integrated MANPADS for surface-to-air missiles. The project is slated to run for three to four years, with the first delivered scheduled to take place in 2014.

Another major market breakthrough for Rheinmetall’s new generation of gun-based air defence systems, the country’s first-ever purchase of 35mm technology underscores the strategic significance of this order.

Kuwait, too, counts on Rheinmetall expertise for training and instructing its operating crews. Under the rubric of a wide-ranging Kuwaiti armed forces training project, Rheinmetall has been tasked with teaching the country’s air defence personnel to operate Rheinmetall-made air defence assets already in the Kuwaiti inventory.

For many years, Kuwait has deployed 35mm Skyguard systems from Rheinmetall Air Defence to protect critical infrastructure from aerial threats.

The contract runs for three years and also encompasses infrastructure, including the construction of training centres. It has great strategic significance for Rheinmetall, since advanced training based on Rheinmetall standards can be expected to result in the long-term use of Rheinmetall technology in Kuwait.

Rheinmetall is one of the world’s leading makers of advanced short-range air defence systems. In the field of cannon- and guided missile-supported air defence, the company is the market leader and sole single-source supplier of fire control technology, automatic cannon, integrated missile launchers and Ahead ammunition.

On behalf of the German Bundeswehr, Rheinmetall has recently developed the “Mantis” air defence system, which will be fielded shortly. The most advanced system of its kind anywhere, it reliably protects military installations and forward operating bases from rocket, artillery and mortar attacks.

Moreover, when it comes to safeguarding critical civilian infrastructure from the terrorist threat, the Group’s tried-and-tested 35mm Skyshield technology sets the unsurpassed standard worldwide.

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S. Korea To Produce Wheeled Armored Vehicles



Dec. 4, 2012 - 11:33AM |


By JUNG SUNG-KI |



SEOUL — The South Korean Army will deploy 600 wheeled armored vehicles from 2016 to help build rapid-response forces modeled after U.S. Stryker combat brigades, according to the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA).

The arms agency announced Hyundai Rotem, a subsidiary of Hyundai Motor Group, as the preferred bidder Nov. 26 to develop and produce those wheeled armored vehicles. The company beat a consortium of Samsung Techwin and Doosan DST.

“ Hyundai Rotem will develop a couple of prototype vehicles with six and eight wheels by 2015 with investment of about 28 billion won ($26 million), ” a DAPA spokesman said. “ After field tests, the company will produce 600 vehicles in stages by 2020. ”

The DAPA and Hyundai Rotem will sign a final contract in December for the wheeled armored vehicle development, said the spokesman.

The Army expects the wheeled combat vehicle to improve its ability to deploy rapidly with enhanced tactical mobility.

“ With the number of infantry troops being reduced under a defense reform plan, we should cover wider combat zones with better survivability and striking capability, ” an Army official said. “ We believe the deployment of wheeled infantry carrier vehicles will help solve this problem, to an extent. ”

Under a military modernization program announced in 2005, the South Korean Army plans to deploy high-tech tanks and armored vehicles that boost firepower and battlefield mobility while reducing force strength.

The service will cut more than 20 of its 47 infantry divisions and turn many of the remaining ones into mechanized units.




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The "Attica" thermal imaging device from Cassidian Optronics significantly enhances the fighting capabilities of tanks as well as crew safety. Foto: Cassidian Optronics

Cassidian Optronics GmbH, previously known as Carl Zeiss Optronics GmbH, will supply the new "Attica" thermal imaging unit for the commander's periscope in the Bundeswehr's Leopard 2 battle tanks. After extensive trials, the German procurement authority BAAINBw (Federal Office of Bundeswehr Equipment, Information Technology and In-Service Support) has awarded this Cassidian subsidiary an order to deliver the "Attica" to a value of almost 7 million euros. The third generation of thermal imaging equipment from Cassidian Optronics thus becomes the standard for the commander's Peri R17 periscope, which is also supplied by Cassidian Optronics.

The use of the Attica thermal imaging device significantly enhances the tank commander's ability to acquire targets, thus improving the safety of the crew. With the Peri R17, the commander is able to supply the gunner with marked targets by day and night, to then be able to acquire other targets without delay. The acquisition of targets can thus be separated from their engagement, which enables quicker reactions.

The Attica system meets the complex requirements presented by today's mission scenarios. This equipment, which has already been selected for the Puma armoured infantry fighting vehicle, is thus developing into a unit which is used across the Bundeswehr, especially in the tank force and mechanised infantry, as well as in the artillery. This results in logistical benefits and a reduction in operating costs when using thermal imaging equipment from the same family of products.

As a consequence of this German decision, other states in the "LEOBEN" association of Leopard user states are also planning procurement of the Peri R17. This will further standardise the level of configuration for the LEOBEN states.

Employing about 800 staff at the German locations of Oberkochen and Wetzlar, and at Irene in South Africa, Cassidian Optronics GmbH develops and manufactures optical and optronic products which are used in military ground, sea and air systems as well as in border and security technologies, but also in non-military high-tech systems and in the aerospace sector. Cassidian Optronics combines the optical and optronic precision technology from Carl Zeiss Optronics with Cassidian's know-how as a global market leader in defence and security technology.


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First C-130H being readied for Indonesia
By Australianaviation.com.au | 24 January 2013 Thursday | 3:50 pm

The first former RAAF C-130H is being prepared for transfer to the Indonesian air force.

Photographed by H-model fan Joshua Williams at RAAF Base Richmond, A97-006 was seen departing the base on a test flight following deep-level maintenance. With evidence of significant work having been performed on the aircraft by Qantas Defence Services, it is believed -006 was the last aircraft to go through deep level maintenance under the existing contract between Defence and QDS. The aircraft was subsequently flown to Townsville for repainting.

A Defence spokesperson told Australian Aviation: “A97-006 is expected to be the first aircraft to be transferred to Indonesia, following completion of deeper level maintenance servicing and other activities, as well as finalisation of transfer arrangements between the governments of Australian and Indonesia.”

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Ok, once a year there will be an intake for graduate officer for the ATM!

grab this chances all you peeps with degree!

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maybe later can open a specific topic just for this!
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any degree holder?
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got a aquintance is in the Okestra Tentera Darat!
he has a degree from ASK!

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Fresh from the oven. China Y-20 took off for a flight trial and landed. The project was 2 years behind schedule. Bigger than the IL-76. Can carry MBT

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ATM special forces in Afghanistan

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Siapa sangka dpt rasa satay kambing Bamyan di Aghanistan. Tahniah pada "chef" di MALCON ISAF! Tahniah, saya kagum!

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You guys are very brave!" We Kiwis never imagine having BBQ outside in winter! - Ketua NZPRT. Itulah "Malaysia Boleh"!

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By Fadli and Novan Iman Santosa in Batam/The Jakarta Post | Asia News Network – 8 hours ago

Batam (The Jakarta Post/ANN) - The Indonesian Defense Ministry accepted its third locally made KCR-40 fast missile boat on Friday, adding to the push to strengthen both the Indonesian Navy and local defense industries.

Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro officiated the ceremony for the KRI Beladau-643 at Batu Ampar Port in Batam, Riau Islands.

Also attending the ceremony were Indonesian Military (TNI) chief Adm. Agus Suhartono, Navy chief of staff Adm. Marsetyo, and vice president director of Bank Mandiri, Riswandi.

Purnomo said the Beladau was the third KCR-40 to enter the Navy's service after the KRI Clurit-641 and KRI Kujang-642.

The three vessels were part of a series of acquisitions of 16 KCR-40s until 2014. A fourth vessel will be delivered in November while the remaining 12 KCR-40s will be delivered by 2014.

Earlier this month, the ministry, which has a budget of Rp 81 trillion (US$8.42 billion) this year, revised down its target to reach the required level of weapons systems from three Strategic Plans (Renstra) to two five-year plans.

By procuring the KCR-40s at home, the ministry is maximizing local defense industries through requiring a transfer-of-technology with every purchase of a foreign weapons system.

Manufactured by PT Palindo Marine Shipyard, the KCR-40 will be equipped with Chinese made C-705 anti-ship missiles that have a range of some 150-kilometers. State aircraft maker PT Dirgantara Indonesia is expected to locally produce the C-705 missiles by 2017 or 2018.

Meanwhile, Agus expected the new vessel would increase the Navy's capabilities in safeguarding Indonesia's vast territorial waters.

The three KCR-40s will be operated by the Western Fleet in the shallow waters around Sumatra, parts of Java and Kalimantan.

Agus also touched on the plan to create a Central Fleet in addition to Eastern and Western Fleets.

"We are studying the organization. We will also create the Sea Defense Command [Kohanla] which will supervise the fleets," he said, without elaborating on the time frame.

Commenting on the plan to establish the third fleet and Kohanla, Iis Gindarsyah from the Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) said that it was a sign of Indonesia's aspiration for a green water navy.

"The projection is likely about the security of Indonesia's maritime borders and strategic sea-lanes," he told The Jakarta Post. He added that the current situation in the South China Sea had placed greater external pressures on Indonesia.

A green navy is often described as a navy with greater coverage than a traditional littoral brown water navy, but stops short of the expansive power of a blue water navy, which contains aircraft carriers.

In addition to having another fleet, the Navy is also preparing the Third Marines, who will be based in Sorong, West Papua.

The Navy has been modernizing its weapons systems in the past few years with acquisitions and plans to further acquire major weapons systems such as submarines, maritime patrol aircraft, anti-submarine warfare (ASW) helicopters, light frigates and guided missile destroyers.


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MAIN BATTLE TANKS IN ASIA

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Whereas many militaries are moving towards lighter and more mobile armoured vehicles, Asia’s infatuation with tanks shows no sign of wavering. In fact, the reverse is true, with several nations adopting main battle tanks (MBTs) for the first time in recent years. Furthermore, three Asian countries – China, India and Pakistan – are expected to account for 60.38% of global tank production through till 2017. There is also considerable investment in new indigenous designs in Japan and South Korea. In terms of firepower, armour protection and mobility, the tank remains unchallenged as the weapon of choice - with combat operations in Afghanistan revealing it is a mistake to regard the MBT as irrelevant in modern warfare.

Southeast Asia
Southeast Asia has been undergoing something of a ‘domino effect’, with MBTs arriving for the first time in Malaysia in 2007, soon after in Singapore, and eventually in Indonesia this year. The Indonesian military is receiving a more substantial defence budget, raising the spectre of procuring MBTs for the first time. Media reports originally linked Indonesia to the purchase of 100 decommissioned Leopard 2A6s from the Netherlands, though Dutch lawmakers scuttled this deal.

Indonesia promptly turned to Germany, which was also selling off surplus stock. The deal under consideration, which awaits contract signature, should include 113 Leopard tanks (41 2A4, 62 2A4 Revolution, and ten recovery and bridge-layer vehicles). Confident the deal would go ahead, Rheinmetall showed a Leopard 2A4 Revolution at Indo Defence late last year. Christened Leopard-RI, this variant features an upgrade package that mimics the one on Singapore’s Leopards. The deal will also provide 50 Marder 1A3 IFVs for the army. Debate remains over whether the heavy Leopard 2A4 is suitable for an archipelago with an underdeveloped road network.

Taking advantage of a previous German selloff, Singapore procured 96 Leopard 2A4s, 30 of which were spare-parts donors. The 66 Leopard 2s were immediately put through an upgrade programme engineered by IBD, the resulting vehicle called the Leopard 2 SG. It is fitted with IBD’s Evolution suite that boasts fourth-generation Advanced Modular Armour Protection (AMAP), which employs steel alloy, aluminium-titanium alloy, nanometric steel, ceramic inserts and nano-ceramics. Steel slat armour is installed on the hull and turret rear and flanks while the hull bottom is reinforced against mines. The Evolution suite increases the tank’s weight from 55.15 tons to 60 tons. An APS from ADS Gesellschaft is likely to be part of Singapore’s installation, but it has not been seen in public so far. In light of this sales success, Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) established an Asia-Pacific hub in Singapore in February 2010. As well as MBTs, Singapore has inducted the supporting Leopard 2 Armoured Recovery Vehicle (LARV) and Armoured Vehicle-Launched Bridge (L2-AVLB).

The Malaysian Army led Southeast Asia’s rush to MBTs when it ordered 48 Bumar Labedy PT-91M Pendekar tanks from Poland. The first vehicles delivered in 2007 featured a Polish ERA package, Sagem SAVAN 15 FCS, new 1,000hp S-1000R engine and RENK ESM350M transmission. The integration of the Malaysian-specified engines and transmission caused initial difficulties but the 11th Royal Armoured Regiment was declared fully operational on 1 September 2010. While Malaysia would like to expand its tank fleet, this has been deferred indefinitely while other higher-priority items such as the AV-8 wheeled vehicle family are acquired.

Thailand’s tank fleet is varied and ageing, but it has looked to Ukraine to modernise its fleet. The government signed a US $240 million contract for 49 T-84 Oplot MBTs in September 2011, the T-84 being chosen ahead of the South Korean K1A1. Thai-Ukraine cooperation is at an all-time high considering the earlier purchase of BTR-3E1 8x8 armoured personnel carriers (APC). Thailand could possibly acquire up to 200 Oplots to allow retirement of the elderly M41A3.


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Still can't think why though especially with the terrain and urbanization. Not to mention anti-tank missiles.
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Still can't think why though especially with the terrain and urbanization. Not to mention anti-tank missiles.
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Bangkok to talk frigate purchase with Beijing

The government has formed a committee to negotiate with a Chinese team on purchase of three frigates to enhance Thai’s naval strength in the resourceful Gulf of Thailand, officials said. Both the sides will work out details of the state-to-state frigate purchase agreement the groundwork of which was laid during the visit of Prime Minister Wen Jiabao to Thailand in November 2012.

The Thai government has recently approved the purchase of two medium-sized frigates with a budget of 1 billion U.S. dollars after denying allegation about the countrys navy persistent request for submarines. However, Beijing had offered three of its Type 054T frigates at a very lower rate and the number of the frigates on conditions that Bangkok can not be denied. Some source said these special offer include six Z-9EC ASW helicopters.

Officials said the armed forced division had planned to utilize budgetary allocations of the 1 billion U.S. dollar fund, approved by the Yingluck Cabinet for the procurement of the frigates, is to be spent for a 10-year period, beginning from current fiscal year. The three frigates are unlikely be procured at the same time.

Type 054T frigate may be an improved version of the Type 054A frigate, possibly designated F40T, for which discussions have been held between Thailand and China.

Officials said commissioning of the type 054T frigates would help the capability of the Thai maritime force in Anti-submarine warfare in the Gulf of Thailand, the dimension of which had changed a lot in the last one decade amid growing interest of Cambodia, Malaysia and Vietnam in the area.

Officials also said Malaysia also plans to acquire two more Scorpène class submarines and Vietnam has recently purchased from Russia six Kilo class submarines and Russian submarine have already been delivered, the delivery of all six submarines will be completed before 2016 and most important thing is Cambodia has already started Submarine project.

Thailand and its neighbor Cambodia were on the edge of conflict in the Gulf in the past 10 years over oil and gas exploration by the latter in the disputed areas. Both the countries had engaged in legal battle over the disputed areas in an international court.

Besides, Thailand is still running a legal battle against another neighbor, Malaysia, over maritime boundary and also the most revealing public statement by any military top brass on the nature and consequences of the Thai Deep South conflict since violence resumed in January 2004.


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LIMA 2013 akan ada pengumuman besar rasanya..
pakej paling menarik untuk MMRCA datang dari Rafale,
Presiden Perancis mungkin akan turun ke Malaysia sepertimana Presiden Russia pernah turun ke Malaysia sebelum ini untuk projek jet perang Malaysia.

Fakulti Industri Pertahanan Universiti Teknologi MARA 2013 : PESAWAT PEJUANG NUKLEAR RAFALE


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In related news the UAE rejected the price of Rafale that was offered to them as it was too expensive. The UAE planning to buy 60 aircraft.

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EAU, Rafale is too expensive

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"It is a matter of price". This is what French President Francois Hollande said regarding a possible Rafale sell to the UAE.
Hollande was in the country today to meet UAE authorities and discuss about the ongoing crisis in Mali as well as possible commercial deals.

In other words the UAE would still be interested in the French fighter jet and its technology, but reject the price asked by Dassault. In the meatime they are also considering the Eurofighter and the F/A-18E as possible alternatives.


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Still can't think why though especially with the terrain and urbanization. Not to mention anti-tank missiles.
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The tanks can be used as mobile forts. But in countries like Malaysia and Singapore, both got good highways for the tanks to move while in Thailand, only the northern part is quite hilly, the rest is flat land..

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masih belum serik beli kapal dari China?
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Boost to defence ties with Pakistan

By Adrian David
Published: 2013/01/30

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia welcomes Pakistan's offer to jointly manufacture tactical unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) and satellites to boost the local defence industry.

Defence Minister Datuk Seri Ahmad Zahid Hamidi believes that Pakistan is capable of manufacturing the items on a large scale, which could mutually benefit both nations.

"Pakistan was convincing in terms of producing long-range UAVs, along with other strategic assets and equipment.

"With such offers, Malaysia need not depend solely on a country for such expertise," he told newsmen after receiving a courtesy call from Pakistan's joint chiefs of staff chairman Gen Khalid Shameem Wynne at the former's officer here, yesterday.

Zahid said Khalid had also expressed greater defence cooperation with Malaysia in terms of other areas including exercises, training, education and exchange of officers.

He said the UAVs, which proved an effective eye-in-the-sky to thwart non-traditional threats like piracy, illegal trafficking of goods, people and drugs as well as illegal fishing, could influence and shape maritime security.

Malaysia's enforcement agencies have in the last decade begun using UAVs, especially along the Sabah coastline to check on the infiltration of illegal immigrants, smuggling and other maritime border crimes.

Composite Technology Research Malaysia (CTRM) Sdn Bhd and Sapura have jointly designed and manufactured UAVs like the Aludra model, of which more than 15 units have been sold to the Defence Ministry since 2007 for surveillance and reconnaissance missions.

Both companies are also assisting the ministry to manage the network centric warfare centre in Tawau, Sabah.

Malaysia had in the past two decades launched a series of telecommunication and weather satellites. These include the geostationary Malaysia East Asia Satellites - Measat-1 and -2 launched in 1996, and -3 in 2006 for television on communications.

Then came Malaysia's first mircro-satellite - Tiung SAT - that was launched in 2000. Nine years later, the high-resolution Malaysian Low Earth Orbit RazakSat was launched.


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Singapore MINDEF signs contract with ST Engineering to construct naval vessels
By S Ramesh | 30 January 2013 Wednesday | 1856 hrs

SINGAPORE: Singapore's Defence Ministry (MINDEF) has signed a contract with Singapore Technologies Engineering Ltd for the design and construction of eight new naval vessels.

MINDEF said it will replace the existing Fearless-class Patrol Vessels (PVs) in the Republic of Singapore Navy (RSN).

The Patrol Vessels will reach the end of their operational lifespan in 2020 after being in service for more than 20 years.

MINDEF added that the new vessels will be equipped with enhanced combat systems and integrated communications suites that will help the Navy to undertake a wide range of maritime security operations.

This will enable it to more effectively, carry out its mission of safeguarding Singapore's vital sea lines of communication.

The first vessel is expected to be delivered in 2016 and all eight vessels will be fully operational by 2020.

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Thai frigate competition among potential Lockheed Martin deals for ships, helos in Asia

By Marina Malenic
1/29/2013

Lockheed Martin is considering offering its Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) in response to a request for proposals (RfP) from the Royal Thai Navy (RTN) for a frigate, the US-headquarted group confirmed on 25 January.

The Thai government finally approved funding of up to USD1 billion in September 2012 to procure two modern frigates over the coming years. The requirement had previously been put on hold for more than a decade due to funding issues. Government support finally came as a result of economic expansion and the need to enhance the combat capability of the RTN.

Confirmation of Lockheed Martin's interest in the programme came from Doug Laurendeau, business development director of the company's ship and aviation systems unit. It is one of a number of opportunities that Lockheed Martin is pursuing in the Asia-Pacific region, he said.

Lockheed Martin would be likely to face competition to meet the Thai frigate requirement from South Korea and Germany. Platforms known to be under consideration include the DW3000H frigate design from South Korea's Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering (DSME) and the MEKO platform of Germany's ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems.


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Updated: 2013-01-29 17:02 ( Xinhua)

JAKARTA - Indonesian Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said on Tuesday that the country's military is expected to meet a new power level, inscripting in presidential decree as Minimum Essential Force (MEF), within two years.

"After seeing what are displayed here, I am optimistic that we can settle the military improvement and restructuring jobs within two years as mandated by the existing law," Purnomo said on the sidelines of an exhibition displaying advancement of national defense industry in the military headquarters here.

The MEF is a new military regime requiring massive development in the military implemented from 2010 to 2014 so as to meet optimum level of force sufficient to guard the nation. 

The effort to improve the military might was endorsed by presidential decree No 5/2010.

To do so, Indonesian government has arranged massive amount of allocation to buy brand new military vehicles, equipment and armaments from foreign countries.

The purchase of military equipment from abroad also constitutes transfer of technology scheme aimed at improving national defense industry.

New navy ships, submersibles, fighter jets, helicopters, tanks and high technology military equipments were among the shopping list that have already been procured from foreign producers.

Indonesia is expecting deliveries of F-16 C/D and Sukhoi Su-30 fighter jets from US and Russia respectively. It bought hundreds of Leopard main battle tanks from Germany, and planed to purchase AH-64 Apache helicopters for its army.

Indonesia also established a joint cooperation with South Korean producers in designing and producing the so-called 4.5 generation fighter jet codenamed KFX. The joint project with South Korea initiated in 2009, worth $2 billion. The initial prototypes of the plane is expected to roll-out from the production facility in South Korea by 2020.

Approximately 200 KFX fighter jets will be manufactured for both the Indonesian and South Korean Air Forces.


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Anyone have any idea the dates in March for the 2013 Hari Terbuka Tentera Darat Malaysia as it will be big since it is the 80th anniversary.

Thanks.

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Armed Forces chief says no plan to replace ageing Nuri choppers

KUALA LUMPUR: The Armed Forces has no plan to dispose the 30 aging Sikorsky S-61A-4 Nuri helicopters which have served for over 50 years.

Armed Forces chief Gen Tan Sri Zulkifeli Mohd Zin said it would be more economical and practical to refurbish the United States-made helicopters to assist the recently acquired EC725 Cougar helicopters.

He said Nuri services were still needed by the RMAF, particularly in utility tasks and aid missions despite taking delivery of 12 French-made EC725 Cougar helicopters by early next year.

"The Nuri helicopters are still in good condition and they can beef up the Cougar EC725 helicopters in utility operations.

"However, we need to upgrade their systems like the cockpit and several other parts," he told Bernama in an interview.

Two of the Cougar EC725 helicopters, which were delivered on Dec 3 last year, were placed at the Kuantan Air Base, serving as training aircraft besides discharging their main functions - strengthening search and rescue, transportation and utility operations.

"Some of the Nuri helicopters will be deployed for the army," Zulkifeli added.

Zulkifeli said the procurement of EC725 Cougar helicopters was aimed at enhancing air surveillance and aid missions.

He said in an effort to further strengthen the country's airspace, the armed forces was planning to acquire several multi-role combat aircraft (MRCA) and Airbus 400M aircraft, depending on the country's financial position.

"For the time being, the armed forces is evaluating four MRCA to cater for RMAF needs, namely Gripen from of Sweden, F/A-18E Super Hornet from the United States, Rafale from Syarikat Daesu, and Eurofighter Typhoon from Britain," he said, adding that the analysis would be presented to the government once it is concluded. - Bernama


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MAF Moves A Step Further With Own Satellite Transponder By 2014

KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 30 (Bernama) -- The country's defence transformation will take a step further when the Malaysian Armed Forces (MAF) has its own satellite transponder to enhance the military's communication network.

MAF Chief General Tan Sri Zulkifeli Mohd Zin, said the communication device which was expected to be used in mid-2014, was vital, particularly in ensuring transmission and reception of confidential information from other military warfare assets, such as aircraft fighters and warships, were well secured.

"The satellite transponder is being developed through cooperation with a satellite company, which is helping us in using this technology. For the time being, MAF will rent the device from the company.

"We will rent the transponder for 15 years as it is more economical, compared to developing a military satellite, costing billions of dollars," he told Bernama when met recently.

Zulkifeli said, the X-Band specification transponder was capable of operating for up to 25 years, where in the same period, the MAF was expected to improve its defence capabilities.

"The satellite transponder will be used specifically to improve our communication capabilities in areas at risk of receiving low communication signals," he added.

Zulkifeli dismissed assumptions that the satellite was for intelligence purposes as the focus was more on strengthening the military's communication system.

The X-band satellite transponder is a special digital communication device for the military to transmit a high data, sounds and videos between the receiving and transmitting antennas.

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Qaher F-313 Stealth Fighter (Concept)




The Qaher-313 ( قاه۳۱۳; also Ghaher-313, Conqueror (Tamer)-313, Q-313, F-313) is an Iranian single-seat stealth fighter aircraft publicly announced on 1 February 2013.[1] It was presented to the press by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi on 2 February 2013, as part of the Ten-Day Dawn ceremonies.

According to Iranian government sources, the F-313 Qaher was designed and is indigenously produced in Iran by the Aviation Industries Organization (AIO), a division of the Ministry of Defense, and IRIAF. The project manager is Hassan Parvaneh.

The aircraft design is a canard configuration. It is stated to be a stealth fighter built with advanced materials with a very low radar signature and with low-altitude operations capability. It was also claimed that the Qaher can take off and land on short runways and has " easy maintenance ".Qaher has a payload capacity of carrying two 2000 pound bombs, or greater number of smaller smart guided missiles, or at least 6 air-to-air missiles in the category of PL-12.



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Qaher F-313 Stealth Fighter (Concept)
The Qaher-313 ( قاه۳۱۳; also Ghaher-313, Conqueror (Tamer)-313, Q-313, F-313) is an Iranian single-seat stealth fighter aircraft publicly announced on 1 February 2013.[1] It was presented to the press by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi on 2 February 2013, as part of the Ten-Day Dawn ceremonies.

According to Iranian government sources, the F-313 Qaher was designed and is indigenously produced in Iran by the Aviation Industries Organization (AIO), a division of the Ministry of Defense, and IRIAF. The project manager is Hassan Parvaneh.

The aircraft design is a canard configuration. It is stated to be a stealth fighter built with advanced materials with a very low radar signature and with low-altitude operations capability. It was also claimed that the Qaher can take off and land on short runways and has " easy maintenance ".Qaher has a payload capacity of carrying two 2000 pound bombs, or greater number of smaller smart guided missiles, or at least 6 air-to-air missiles in the category of PL-12.
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Malaysia, Pakistan to jointly manufacture UAV, satellites



KUALA LUMPUR : Malaysia has welcomed Pakistan’s offer to jointly manufacture tactical unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) and satellites to boost our defence industry.


Revealing this, Defence Minister Datuk Seri Ahmad Zahid Hamidi said that Pakistan had made an impression on him of its capability to manufacture the said items on a large scale, which could mutually benefit both nations.

“ Pakistan was convincing in terms of producing long-range UAVs, along with other strategic assets and equipment.

“ With such offers, Malaysia need not depend solely on a country for such expertise, ” he told newsmen after receiving a courtesy call from Pakistan’s joint chiefs of staff chairman Gen Khalid Shameem Wynne at the former’s officer in Jalan Padang Tembak, today.

Zahid said Khalid had expressed greater defence cooperation with Malaysia in terms of other areas including exercises, training, education and exchange of officers.

Zahid added UAVs proved an effective eye-in-the-sky to thwart non-traditional threats like piracy, illegal trafficking of goods, people and drugs as well as illegal fishing, that could influence and shape maritime security.

Our enforcement agencies have in the last decade begun using UAVs, especially along the Sabah coastline to check on the infiltration of illegal immigrants, smuggling and other maritime border crimes.

These locally-made UAVs, which could endure up to 20 hours of operation and be controlled within a radius of 200km, had been tested by the Malaysian Armed Forces (ATM) during " Ops Pasir " in eastern Sabah
Composite Technology Research Malaysia (CTRM) Sdn Bhd and Sapura has jointly designed and manufactured UAVs like the Aludra model, more than 15 of which have been sold to the Defence Ministry since 2007 for surveillance and reconnaissance missions.

Both companies also assisting the ministry to manage the network centric warfare centre in Tawau, Sabah.

The UAVs, which have an endurance of 20 hours and a radius of 200km, had proven their mettle during "Ops Pasir" to check on illeggal immigrants in eastern Sabah.

Malaysia had the past two decades launched a series of telecommunication and weather satellites.

These include the geostationary Malaysia East Asia Satellites - Measat-1, and -2 launched in 1996, and -3 in 2006 for television on communications. They were designed and manufactured by Boeing Satellite Systems.

Then came Malaysia’s first mircro-satellite - Tiung SAT - that was launched in 2000. Nine years later, the high-resolution Malaysian Low Earth Orbit RazakSat was launched.

All these further led to our Angkasawan programme where Datuk Dr Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor Al Masrie Sheikh Mustapha became the first Malaysian in space on October 10, 2007 on a Russian Soyuz TMA-11.

On another note, Zahid said Khalid was supportive of Malaysia’s United Nations peacekeepers continuing their humanitarian and healthcare programmes in Afghanistan.

“ We plan to move from our base in Bamyam to Kabut and join Pakistani troops to continue our mission, ” he said.




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Chaiseri Tiger I prototype Chaiseri 8X8
By Thaidefense News | 3 February 2013 Sunday

Chaiseri Tiger I prototype armoured car type 8X8 by Chaiseri company.

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Qaher-313 macam '' F-177 Nighthawk Prototype ''


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Chaiseri Tiger I prototype Chaiseri 8X8
By Thaidefense News | 3 February 2013 Sunday

Chaiseri Tiger I prototype armoured car type 8X8 by Chaiseri company.

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The FAS (Forces Armées et de Sécurité) Commandoes

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It’s standard issue in FAS (Forces Armées et de Sécurité, Chad military) commandos, which, unlike Malians, are both well trained, highly mobile and are extremely experienced in desert warfare (the tale as how they infiltrated an Qaddafi column with a handful of their own vehicles a couple years back under the cover of a sand storm, wreak havoc and destroyed the whole unit is a famous one in some circles).

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HAL Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA)




Aero India 2013



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Appearance wise..it's quite ugly...
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Whose troop are those? France?
Appearance wise..it's quite ugly...
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nice! dunno why i hav this obsession with famas....they are jst sooo pretty!

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laser target, scope with light.
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Bundeswehr fields new Gladius soldier system – €84 million order for 60 more systems placed with Rheinmetall
8 February 2013 Friday

Moves by the German Bundeswehr to equip its infantry forces with the state-of-the-art Gladius soldier system are gathering pace. In January 2013, the Düsseldorf, Germany-based Rheinmetall Group was awarded an order to supply a further sixty systems. The procurement programme began in 2012 with an initial order of thirty systems, enough to equip 300 troops.

This follow-up order is worth €84 million, and encompasses equipment for 60 infantry sections with a total of 600 soldiers.

Delivery of the new systems will take place in two lots consisting of thirty systems each, the first one in the middle of 2013, another at the end of the year. This will ensure that the next two contingents of Bundeswehr troops due to deploy to Afghanistan will receive the new equipment well in advance.

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As planned, the Bundeswehr is currently taking delivery of the thirty Gladius systems it ordered in 2012. The troops will have until June 2013 to train with the new system before going to Afghanistan.

Developed by Rheinmetall and originally known as “Infanterist der Zukunft (IdZ 2)” or “Future Soldier”, Gladius is the most advanced system of its kind anywhere. Its introduction is a major step forward for the Bundeswehr, which will significantly improve the overall operational effectiveness of German infantry units while simultaneously enhancing the survivability of individual soldiers.

An expanded set of capabilities
Gladius substantially exceeds the capabilities of previous infantry systems used by the Bundeswehr, especially with regard to networkability, command and control, and combat effectiveness. Reflecting the heightened requirements profile of the user as well as incorporating knowledge gained during comprehensive testing and in the field, Gladius is essentially a new, highly advanced system.

A prominent feature of the Gladius system is the holistic design approach that takes full account of the complex operational requirements levied on modern soldier systems. Gladius is intended first and foremost to bring the 10-man infantry section and its vehicle into the network-enabled operational loop. This network, consisting of reconnaissance, command and control components, and weapons, enables rapid exchange of information as well as shared situational awareness as the basis for planning and conducting operations.

The individual soldier receives all relevant data concerning the tactical situation, the position of friendly forces, the mission, and system status. It includes a GPS and an inertial navigation system as well as a magnetic compass, facilitating reliable orientation on the ground.

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Improved ergonomics and superb protection
Equally impressive are the system’s ergonomic features, especially with regard to weight reduction, miniaturization and improved integration of individual components. The modular battle dress uniform, body armour and harness system provide excellent protection from detection in the visual and infrared spectrum as well as from the weather – even in extreme climate zones – and especially from biological and chemical agents. Flame-retardant equipment and vector protection round out the system’s high level of protection. The system is integrated into an “electronic backbone” that contains the radio, core computer, batteries and GPS module.

More than just the sum of its parts, the Gladius system puts Bundeswehr infantrymen on the global cutting edge, placing them ahead of their peers in terms of networking capabilities, command and control, and operational efficiency.

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Malaysia helped CIA illegally detain Libyans, says report

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KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 7 — Malaysia assisted the US Central Intelligence Agency’s (CIA) illegal detainee transfer programme by detaining two Libyans in 2004, a US-based NGO said in a report last Tuesday.

The Libyan couple was detained by Malaysian authorities for 13 days under “harsh conditions”, according to a report, titled “Globalising Torture: CIA Secret Detention and Extraordinary Rendition”, released by the Open Society Justice Initiative (OSJI).


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“Malaysia detained and assisted in the extraordinary rendition of Libyan nationals Abu Abdullah al-Sadiq (Abdul Hakim Belhadj) and his wife Fatima Bouchar in 2004 in Kuala Lumpur airport,” said OSJI.
“Bouchar, who was four months’ pregnant at the time, was unable to get medical care,” it added.

OSJI defines “extraordinary rendition” as the illegal transfer of a detainee to a foreign government’s custody for the purposes of detention and interrogation.

The report quoted the CIA’s memorandum, dated March 4, 2004, to Libya as saying “[w]e are working energetically with the Malaysian government to effect the extradition of Abdullah al-Sadiq from Malaysia. The Malaysians have promised to co-operate and arrange for Sadiq’s transfer to our custody.”

OSJI said that torture was a hallmark of the CIA’s secret detention and extraordinary rendition programmes that were conducted outside the US.

“Secret detention and extraordinary rendition operations, designed to be conducted outside the United States under cover of secrecy, could not have been implemented without the active participation of foreign governments. These governments too must be held accountable,” said the report.

OSJI added that Sadiq and Bouchar were told that they could travel to the UK through Bangkok, Thailand, but were detained by Thai authorities upon arrival in Bangkok and subsequently abused by the CIA, after which they were extraordinarily rendered to Libya.

“Bouchar reported she was chained to a wall and not fed for five days, at a time when she was 4½ months; pregnant,” said the report.

The report also noted that two Malaysians — Mohamad Farik Amin and Mohammed Nazir Lep — were detained in Thailand in 2003.

“The US government confirmed in September 2006 that Farik was among 14 ‘high value detainees’ transferred from secret CIA detention to Guantánamo Bay,” said the report.

Nazir was apprehended on suspicion of being involved in the Marriott Hotel bombing in Jakarta and other plots against targets in Southeast Asia.

“According to an ICRC report on ‘high value’ detainees held in secret CIA detention, bin Lep alleged that he was held naked for three to four days in Thailand and nine days in Afghanistan, that he was denied any solid food for the first 11 days after his arrest, that he underwent seven days of prolonged stress standing in Afghanistan, and that he had to defecate and urinate on himself while standing,” said the report.

Both men remain imprisoned at Guantánamo Bay, according to the report.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...ans-says-report
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Malaysia helped CIA illegally detain Libyans, says report

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KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 7 — Malaysia assisted the US Central Intelligence Agency’s (CIA) illegal detainee transfer programme by detaining two Libyans in 2004, a US-based NGO said in a report last Tuesday.

The Libyan couple was detained by Malaysian authorities for 13 days under “harsh conditions”, according to a report, titled “Globalising Torture: CIA Secret Detention and Extraordinary Rendition”, released by the Open Society Justice Initiative (OSJI).
File photo of a guard watching over Guantanamo detainees inside the exercise yard at Guantanamo Bay detention facility in Cuba. — Reuters pic
“Malaysia detained and assisted in the extraordinary rendition of Libyan nationals Abu Abdullah al-Sadiq (Abdul Hakim Belhadj) and his wife Fatima Bouchar in 2004 in Kuala Lumpur airport,” said OSJI.
“Bouchar, who was four months’ pregnant at the time, was unable to get medical care,” it added.

OSJI defines “extraordinary rendition” as the illegal transfer of a detainee to a foreign government’s custody for the purposes of detention and interrogation.

The report quoted the CIA’s memorandum, dated March 4, 2004, to Libya as saying “[w]e are working energetically with the Malaysian government to effect the extradition of Abdullah al-Sadiq from Malaysia. The Malaysians have promised to co-operate and arrange for Sadiq’s transfer to our custody.”

OSJI said that torture was a hallmark of the CIA’s secret detention and extraordinary rendition programmes that were conducted outside the US.

“Secret detention and extraordinary rendition operations, designed to be conducted outside the United States under cover of secrecy, could not have been implemented without the active participation of foreign governments. These governments too must be held accountable,” said the report.

OSJI added that Sadiq and Bouchar were told that they could travel to the UK through Bangkok, Thailand, but were detained by Thai authorities upon arrival in Bangkok and subsequently abused by the CIA, after which they were extraordinarily rendered to Libya.

“Bouchar reported she was chained to a wall and not fed for five days, at a time when she was 4½ months; pregnant,” said the report.

The report also noted that two Malaysians — Mohamad Farik Amin and Mohammed Nazir Lep — were detained in Thailand in 2003.

“The US government confirmed in September 2006 that Farik was among 14 ‘high value detainees’ transferred from secret CIA detention to Guantánamo Bay,” said the report.

Nazir was apprehended on suspicion of being involved in the Marriott Hotel bombing in Jakarta and other plots against targets in Southeast Asia.

“According to an ICRC report on ‘high value’ detainees held in secret CIA detention, bin Lep alleged that he was held naked for three to four days in Thailand and nine days in Afghanistan, that he was denied any solid food for the first 11 days after his arrest, that he underwent seven days of prolonged stress standing in Afghanistan, and that he had to defecate and urinate on himself while standing,” said the report.

Both men remain imprisoned at Guantánamo Bay, according to the report.

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Satelit Mikro Kedua RazakSAT-2 Dilancar 2015

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia bakal mempunyai sebuah lagi satelit penderiaan jauh bagi memantau permukaan bumi iaitu RazakSAT-2 yang dijadual dilancar pada 2015.

Ketua pengarah Agensi Angkasa Negara (Angkasa), Dr Mustafa Din Subari berkata, program pembangunan RazakSAT-2 dimulakan awal tahun ini dan dijangka mengambil masa selama kira-kira dua tahun lebih untuk disiapkan.

"RazakSAT-2 akan siap sama ada pada penghujung 2014 atau awal 2015 dan merupakan satelit 'remote sensing' yang boleh memberikan imej beresolusi tinggi kepada pengguna imej satelit di dalam negara dan di peringkat antarabangsa," katanya.

Beliau yang ditemui pada majlis sambutan ulang tahun ke-19 Planetarium Negara di sini, hari ini berkata RazakSAT-2 dibangunkan oleh Astronautic Technology (M) Sdn Bhd (ATSB) yang merupakan syarikat perintis dalam pembangunan satelit di Malaysia.

ATSB juga adalah syarikat yang membangunkan program satelit mikro pertama negara, RazakSAT yang telah dilancarkan empat tahun lalu.

Ditanya di mana satelit itu akan dilancar, Mustafa berkata, lokasi pelancaran belum ditetapkan dan hanya akan diputus selepas RazakSAT-2 siap.

Pada 9 September 2011, media melaporkan Menteri Sains Teknologi dan Inovasi, Datuk Seri Dr Maximus mengumumkan kelulusan peruntukan siling RM200 juta khusus bagi meningkatkan program pembangunan satelit negara, dengan menggerakkan program lima tahun RazakSAT-2.

Beliau berkata, RazakSAT-2 adalah kesinambungan Program Satelit RazakSAT yang dilancar pada 14 Julai 2009 dan skop teknologi pembangunan RazakSAt-2 adalah untuk menaik taraf keupayaan sistem terutama dari segi perisian dan peralatan satelit.

Satelit penderiaan jauh pertama negara, RazakSAT dilancar di Kwajalein Atoll, Republik Marshall Islands menerusi sistem pengangkut pelancar, Falcon 1 yang dikendalikan Space Explortion Technologies Amerika (SpaceX).

RazakSAT yang dinamakan sempena nama Perdana Menteri kedua, Tun Abdul Razak Hussein adalah seberat 180 kilogram dan merupakan satelit penderiaan jauh pertama yang mengorbit Khatulistiwa.

RazakSAT membawa kamera resolusi tinggi yang merakam imej dari angkasa untuk pelbagai aplikasi seperti pertanian tepat, memeta lanskap, pencegahan bencana, rancangan rangkaian jalan dan bandar, yang memberi manfaat kepada Malaysia dan negara lain di sekitar garisan Khatulistiwa.

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heard the armed forces only get about RM 2.6 bil for 2013 budget for buying new assets..thats not enuff for the MRCA programme is it..
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heard the armed forces only get about RM 2.6 bil for 2013 budget for buying new assets..thats not enuff for the MRCA programme is it..
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Eglin F-35 pilots fly tactical intercepts

Pilots at Eglin AFB, Florida, are starting to do a little bit of tactical training in the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

"I was fortunate to be part of the first USAF F-35A four-ship formation this morning," Col Andy Toth, commander of the 33rd FW told me on Jan 31 (it's been a very busy week). "We conducted a tactical intercept mission versus F-16s and it went well."

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Toth adds, "One of our newest instructors, Maj Scout Johnston did a great job of leading the WG/CC, Sq/CC and deputy operations group commander on the four-ship mission."

Four-ships are actually part of how a normal fighter wing operates, but given the relative immaturity of the F-35 as a weapons system, it was a morale booster for the airmen at the 58th Aircraft Maintenance Unit to be able to do that. They're starting to learn how to take care of the jet themselves without help from Lockheed Martin.

"We are learning the ins and outs of the aircraft and showing we can handle the maintenance on our own," says Senior Master Sgt. Eric Wheeler, a production superintendent at the maintenance unit.

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Right now, most of the information on the F-35 comes from the contractor, the program office, the occasional interview with a military test pilot attached to the JSF program, or reports put out by the Pentagon.

Pilots at Eglin can't really say since they are allowed to operate only in a very restrictive envelope, but Andy Toth was able to say this: "I will say in afterburner during takeoff, the acceleration is impressive and if you do not pull the nose up significantly higher than I'm used to in an Eagle or a [F-16] Viper, you could over-speed the gear very quickly and the retract 'in the well' speed is 300 knots versus 250 in the Eagle."

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During the interview with Lockheed, I noticed something curious:

If one were to overlay the energy-maneuverability (E-M) diagrams for the F/A-18, F-16 or Typhoon over the F-35's, "It is better. Comparable or better than every Western fourth-generation fighter out there," Flynn says. That applies even to the F-35 B and C models with their respective 7g and 7.5g limits. "You're not going to see any measurable difference between the aircraft," Flynn says. In terms of instantaneous and sustained turn rates and just about every other performance metric, the F-35 variants match or considerably exceed the capabilities of every fourth-generation fighter, he says.

However, about a year and half ago, I spoke to Lt Col Matt Kelly, a US Marine Corps test pilot at NAS Patuxent River, Maryland, when I was still at Defense News. Read the old DN story here.

Operational pilots should be thrilled with the F-35's performance, Kelly said. The F-35 Energy-[Maneuverability] diagrams, which display an aircraft's energy and maneuvering performance within its airspeed range and for different load factors, are similar to the F/A-18 but the F-35 offers better acceleration at certain points of the flight envelope.

"The E-M diagrams are very similar between the F-35B, F-35C and the F/A-18. There are some subtle differences in maximum turn rates and some slight differences in where corner airspeeds are exactly," Kelly said.

The two accounts don't seem to quite mesh, unless there has been some sort of substantial new discovery during that timespan that accounts for it. I believe Kelly was talking about a relatively clean classic F/A-18 Hornet--if memory serves--so that could account for part of it. Later that same year, Kelly again told me the F-35B and C both fly similarly to the Hornet when I was onboard the USS Wasp. And, I heard Kelly tell another senior Marine aviator stationed at the Pentagon that the F-35B flew like a Hornet during that same visit to the ship. 

I suppose it could be possible a loaded up Typhoon offers performance comparable to a relatively clean Hornet, but I don't know that for a fact. I think we're missing some important information in this case and hard numbers are something no one is willing (with good reason) to provide.

We'll find out soon enough once the fleet aviators get their hands on the full envelope jets.

Photos by Capt Edward Schmitt, flight doctor, 58 Fighter Squadron.

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why we didn't look for chinese jets? those j-10, j-17 looks cool though..
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why we didn't look for chinese jets? those j-10, j-17 looks cool though..
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It is better for us to look at proven technology and with good quality assurance.
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but did RMAF officially sent any test pilots to evaluate them? pakistan using those chinese jets..surely they can be on par with rafale..
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 10 2013, 04:38 PM)
but did RMAF officially sent any test pilots to evaluate them? pakistan using those chinese jets..surely they can be on par with rafale..
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hard to compare J17/J10 with Rafale, J17/10 both just single engine and different class, our country Airforce more like in twin engine like Rafale due to our country geographic, also twin engine more safe protection. also our country defance system not compatible to chinese system, if buy J17/J10, need more complex integration to our system.
but for future went chinese J-31/J-20 stealth fighter ready around 2017 it maybe better than Rafale.

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but did RMAF officially sent any test pilots to evaluate them? pakistan using those chinese jets..surely they can be on par with rafale..
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It will never be on par with Rafale in term of technology.

beside JF-17 have trouble passing the valuation team by the PLA airforce.
Currently JF-17 is solely used by the PAF.
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 10 2013, 07:04 PM)
hard to compare J17/J10 with Rafale, J17/10 both just single engine and different class, our country Airforce more like in twin engine like Rafale due to our country geographic, also twin engine more safe protection. also our country defance system not compatible to chinese system, if buy J17/J10, need more complex integration to our system.
but for future went chinese J-31/J-20 stealth fighter ready around 2017 it maybe better than Rafale.
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Twin engine allow the fighter to carry more Armament.
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It will never be on par with Rafale in term of technology.

beside JF-17 have trouble passing the valuation team by the PLA airforce.
Currently JF-17 is solely used by the PAF.
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either F-18 or rafale i guess..EF is unlikely be their choice..too expensive..btw, does all those jets comes with the source code too?
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 10 2013, 10:36 PM)
either F-18 or rafale i guess..EF is unlikely be their choice..too expensive..btw, does all those jets comes with the source code too?
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the only jet fighter come with open source. would be mig29.
other would require you to paid certain amount of $$.
besides we don't have the industry that can make use of the source code.
rafale, ef and gripen does offer us the source code. is just marketing gimmick IMO.

US is unlikely giving the source code.

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still waiting for the time when our local industries could manufacture our own bombs, our own rifles, our own missiles..sigh..
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still waiting for the time when our local industries could manufacture our own bombs, our own rifles, our own missiles..sigh..
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if you could spare about RM50billion annually for R&D then we will see the result fast enough!

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cut off the paycheck by 10% for all goverment workers..or increase tax..use the money..maybe we can get something..but the ruling gomen would be kicked..coz nobody wants their money taken away..haha
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still waiting for the time when our local industries could manufacture our own bombs, our own rifles, our own missiles..sigh..
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our local company already local make rifles (under license), very short range missiles, also military transport vehicle, future will be 8x8 or 8x6 military vehicle

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if you could spare about RM50billion annually for R&D then we will see the result fast enough!
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Actually to be able to support and able to produce our own armament we need not only the money but the manpower(technical know-how).. As far as I know we do not have enough proper people to develop our own technologies.

And we don't need to spend so much like rm 50 billion annually to produce excellent results (there are countries spending not so much on R&D but still be able to produce results). All we need is a proper management of resources and focus on the kind of research objective we want to reach. Besides we do not have a real market over here, so before considering to invest heavily on producing on out own we need to have a forecast and a proper market analysis if we are able to sell it to our own MoD or other countries.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 11 2013, 02:22 PM)
cut off the paycheck by 10% for all goverment workers..or increase tax..use the money..maybe we can get something..but the ruling gomen would be kicked..coz nobody wants their money taken away..haha
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QUOTE(cheeming @ Feb 11 2013, 04:35 PM)
Actually to be able to support and able to produce our own armament we need not only the money but the manpower(technical know-how).. As far as I know we do not have enough proper people to develop our own technologies.

And we don't need to spend so much like rm 50 billion annually to produce excellent results (there are countries spending not so much on R&D but still be able to produce results). All we need is a proper management of resources and focus on the kind of research objective we want to reach. Besides we do not have a real market over here, so before considering to invest heavily on producing on out own we need to have a forecast and a proper market analysis if we are able to sell it to our own MoD or other countries..  smile.gif
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haha RM50b is just a figure of speech tongue.gif

Malaysia have a very R&D in defense and military, from government agencies and private sector, we do have the enough man power with knowledge to do so.
The good example is during the DSA, there are many local company with good proposal and prototype items but unable to carry on due to lack of money and investment.
I know some project that have been held back numerous of time just because the grant is revoked due to financial constraint.
Plus, the government itself prefer foreign item also did not contribute to local industry.

That's why I'm bold enough to say that money is the main factor, and the government should consider to put extra effort in this area.
we don't really need to sell our item, but just enough to be self sufficient!


I not just about the crony! smile.gif

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And we need to have a proper plan before executing it. We shouldn't just try for the sake of trying. I do agree we need to have our own R&D but we also need to plan how to build and nurture the pool of local talent .

atreyuangel .. for me its not about crony but just that we need to really have a focus on what we can do best. Sorry for being a bit unaware of the current defense R&D situation in Msia as I am only involved in defense R&D in EU.

Being self sufficient is good but its also important that we could consolidate some of the companies into bigger players to have a critical mass and to prevent overlapping research. I do hope that one day Msia will not rely so much on others to develop our national assets.

btw, only US spend a huge amount of money on military R&D programs. Most of the countries spend less than 10 billion per year on R&D.

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malaysia punya stride

why the goverment tidak mencoba one project for producing some item that MAF ussualy use it, for an example, training bomb (dunno malaysia already produce it or not), simple project but army ussualy use that item very often for training their new soldier, dont have strategic values, but atleast, army will buy it, factory got the money for next R&D, and can improve it. the point is, there's a will from the goverment and users.

like ANOA in the first launching, TNI wont use that (no match with other vehicles from outside) but our president Habibie in that time insit TNI must buy it (approx 150 ANOA), and now, day by day we can improve it. maybe still have lack in there and here, but atleast we try..

i hope the plan for aqusition pars 8x8 still on the right track and malaysia can start producing their own gears..

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QUOTE(cheeming @ Feb 11 2013, 05:30 PM)
And we need to have a proper plan before executing it. We shouldn't just try for the sake of trying. I do agree we need to have our own R&D but we also need to plan how to build and nurture the pool of local talent .

atreyuangel .. for me its not about crony but just that we need to really have a focus on what we can do best.  Sorry for being a bit unaware of the current defense R&D situation in Msia as I am only involved in defense R&D in EU.

Being self sufficient is good but its also important that we could consolidate some of the companies into bigger players to have a critical mass and to prevent overlapping research. I do hope that one day Msia will not rely so much on others to develop our national assets.

btw, only US spend a huge amount of money on military R&D programs. Most of the countries spend less than 10 billion per year on R&D.
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hahaha apparently I miss type "In b4 not just about the crony!" as "I not just about the crony!" laugh.gif
I believe all the R&D are closely linked to the government as they are the ones that granted the research grant.

I agree on what you said on building and nurturing the local talent .
but as you can see in Malaysia only some of the local public university other then Stride of the UPNM and that have a participation in R&D
while the private sector are made of the large established GLC company like the Bousted, DRB and etc are the ones that gets highlighted.

Local company like the Metro Koats Technology have a very good product that could be used by ATM, instead the company is almost unheard off to most Malaysian even though their product do received recognition on camouflage technology.

A friend of mine, able to develop a USV from cheaper fiberglass materiel with patented design for smooth high speed turning but there is no interest from the Navy!
The boat name is Jampiras USV"

them seems to be struggling to market their product in Malaysia. sad.gif

QUOTE(meedoot @ Feb 11 2013, 08:51 PM)
want to ask something..

malaysia punya stride

why the goverment tidak mencoba one project for producing some item that MAF ussualy use it, for an example, training bomb (dunno malaysia already produce it or not), simple project but army ussualy use that item very often for training their new soldier, dont have strategic values, but atleast, army will buy it, factory got the money for next R&D, and can improve it. the point is, there's a will from the goverment and users.

like ANOA in the first launching, TNI wont use that (no match with other vehicles from outside) but our president Habibie in that time insit TNI must buy it (approx 150 ANOA), and now, day by day we can improve it. maybe still have lack in there and here, but atleast we try..

i hope the plan for aqusition pars 8x8 still on the right track and malaysia can start producing their own gears..

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Malaysia do develop training dumb bomb for training purposes,
the Stride is still on the final (I believe on final phase) phase with the Taming Sari (Self Propelled Munition)
While CTRM are more in the UAV development industry.

but like I said, local product are very seldom caught the eye of the procurement team of the government.
For example the DRB Deftech AV4 4x4 can still be used as field ambulance or at least by the TD in the country, but they do not have the interest on it.
Maybe there are other factor involved that slash out the AV4, but there are room for improvement.

The AV8 project probably the largest Malaysian R&D project with the Turkish side, a sum of RM8billion is awarded to DRB for the development of the product from the center, development facilities, test track and etc.
And I believe it is a good start.
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 11 2013, 10:59 PM)
hahaha apparently I miss type "In b4 not just about the crony!" as "I not just about the crony!" laugh.gif
I believe all the R&D are closely linked to the government as they are the ones that granted the research grant.

I agree on what you said on building and nurturing the local talent .
but as you can see in Malaysia only some of the local public university other then Stride of the UPNM and that have a participation in R&D
while the private sector are made of the large established GLC company like the Bousted, DRB and etc are the ones that gets highlighted.

Local company like the Metro Koats Technology have a very good product that could be used by ATM, instead the company is almost unheard off to most Malaysian even though their product do received recognition on camouflage technology.

A friend of mine, able to develop a USV from cheaper fiberglass materiel with patented design for smooth high speed turning but there is no interest from the Navy!
The boat name is Jampiras USV"
Seems interesting ... R&D is closely linked to the government if we are only aiming for local use but if we are trying to market it elsewhere the private defence contractors will normally have their own funding and also partial grant from the gov. tongue.gif this is what is happening in my company

lets hope that our Malaysia Defence Park in Sungkai could be realised soon enough then I could come back with my company rclxm9.gif


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From what I heard of the AV4.
It simply did not meet the ATM specification. It design also resemble certain vehicle that ATM use once which it failed badly in Malaysia terrain.
Anyway AV4 have also been offer to other branches. but none interested in its.

Anyway They should have design it like the Gurkha LAPV that should catch some eye. biggrin.gif
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Seems interesting ... R&D is closely linked to the government if we are only aiming for local use but if we are trying to market it elsewhere the private defence contractors will normally have their own funding and also partial grant from the gov.  tongue.gif  this is what is happening in my company

lets hope that our Malaysia Defence Park in Sungkai could be realised soon enough then I could come back with my company  rclxm9.gif
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btw if your company do comeback, save some jobs for me! tongue.gif

QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 12 2013, 06:58 PM)
From what I heard of the AV4.
It simply did not meet the ATM specification. It design also resemble certain vehicle that ATM use once which it failed badly in Malaysia terrain.
Anyway AV4 have also been offer to other branches. but none interested in its.

Anyway They should have design it like the Gurkha LAPV that should catch some eye. biggrin.gif
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AV4 have a lots of issues, that's why it remains as prototype
the design can be improved and the AV4 could be the project can be propelled in order to get better result!
R&D is not a very complicated process and time consuming, but to have a platform to work on is a good start!

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 12 2013, 07:05 PM)
Yes, lets hope for the best!  smile.gif
btw if your company do comeback, save some jobs for me!  tongue.gif
AV4 have a lots of issues, that's why it remains as prototype
the design can be improved and the AV4 could be the project can be propelled in order to get better result!
R&D is not a very complicated process and time consuming, but to have a platform to work on is a good start!
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well with AV8 project on hand they wont be going for AV4 for now.
Anyway deftech should put more initiative in R&D. they might learn a few thing in AV8 that can be implemented in AV4. hopefully. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 12 2013, 07:05 PM)
Yes, lets hope for the best!  smile.gif
btw if your company do comeback, save some jobs for me!  tongue.gif
tongue.gif definitely .. Will you be in LIMA this year? maybe we could meet up and it will be great to meet someone with knowledge with our Msia defence sector..

PS: on a side note this is what I am involved in http://selex-es.com/domains/air/airborne-isr-systems
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 12 2013, 07:09 PM)
well with AV8 project on hand they wont be going for AV4 for now.
Anyway deftech should put more initiative in R&D. they might learn a few thing in AV8 that can be implemented in AV4. hopefully. biggrin.gif
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the time line of AV4 and AV8 is quite far tongue.gif
I believe that AV8 and AV4 have a very different role, AV4 is much more suited for normal patrol where the AV8 for much more serious business!

QUOTE(cheeming @ Feb 12 2013, 07:14 PM)
tongue.gif  definitely .. Will you be in LIMA this year? maybe we could meet up and it will be great to meet someone with knowledge with our Msia defence sector..

PS: on a side note this is what I am involved in http://selex-es.com/domains/air/airborne-isr-systems
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No, won't be in LIMA this year sad.gif
I'm in my final semester, and quite busy with the final project only some of MYMIL forumer will be in Langkawi covering for LIMA!
But I'm looking forward for next year Defense Security Agreement or DSA2014 in PWTC!
hopefully maybe we can meet there! smile.gif

ps: your company have a quite interesting sensors!!

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the time line of AV4 and AV8 is quite far  tongue.gif
I believe that AV8 and AV4 have a very different role, AV4 is much more suited for normal patrol where the AV8 for much more serious business!

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equip it with M61 vulcan. tongue.gif

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AV4 can do serious business too.
equip it with M61 vulcan. tongue.gif
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yes we have very good sensors and not only that we have a very good EW equipment&library .. we will definitely have a chance to meet up some time soon
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 12 2013, 09:03 PM)
Ooo..so we do develop USV huh? how about UCAV? haha just equip those aludras with some hellfire bombs
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Converting F-5 to UCAV can be a good business for us.
Tons of F-5 still in services.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 12 2013, 06:58 PM)
From what I heard of the AV4.
It simply did not meet the ATM specification. It design also resemble certain vehicle that ATM use once which it failed badly in Malaysia terrain.
Anyway AV4 have also been offer to other branches. but none interested in its.

Anyway They should have design it like the Gurkha LAPV that should catch some eye. biggrin.gif
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AV4 is direct copy of some kinda Belgian 4x4 APC, without doing any improvements on its design..

QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 12 2013, 09:47 PM)
Converting F-5 to UCAV can be a good business for us.
Tons of F-5 still in services.
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yes approval is needed form the congress.

anyway converting F5 to UCAV is not feasible as it might cost more that building from scratch and US already has X45 under development .. Europe is also building a demonstrator called the neuron



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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 12 2013, 09:59 PM)
AV4 is direct copy of some kinda Belgian 4x4 APC, without doing any improvements on its design..
Dun u need approval from US Congress to do any modifications on US-supplied military hardware?
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No problem 1 on old tech.
IIRC Even Airod were allowed to do some modification on the F-5e and restoring the F-5e.
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QUOTE(cheeming @ Feb 12 2013, 10:21 PM)
yes approval is needed form the congress.

anyway converting F5 to UCAV is not feasible as it might cost more that building from scratch and US already has X45 under development .. Europe is also building a demonstrator called the neuron
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unless there is a feasible studies we wont know it is feasible.
IIRC US converting their old fighter plane to target drone not that expensive.
The market for F-5 UCAV is there. South korea, thailand, singapore for example.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 12 2013, 10:33 PM)
No problem 1 on old tech.
IIRC Even Airod were allowed to do some modification on the F-5e and restoring the F-5e.
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I believes thats with US Congress's approval, and the modifications was only replacing old camera with digital camera for RF5E
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aite new intake for Other Ranks in Air Force!

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The Indonesian Ministry of Defence (MoD) is planning to purchase military helicopters for its Army.

Under the contract, Indonesian MoD will procure 24 Bell 412 helicopters and 20 Black Hawk.

Indonesia intends to procure Black Hawk helicopters from USA.

Bell 412 is a multipurpose utility helicopter powered with Pratt & Whitney's PT6T-3D engines.


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TNI-AD should get chinook and Blackhawk.
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TNI-AD should get chinook and Blackhawk.
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 12 2013, 09:03 PM)
Ooo..so we do develop USV huh? how about UCAV? haha just equip those aludras with some hellfire bombs
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try to search for Jampiras Bot Belacak USV
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The Chinook has longer range, higher load and underslung capacity compared to the Blackhawk.

A better mix of helicopter capability instead of just the Blackhawk.

I believe that TNI-AD saw the capabilities of the RSAF Chinook during the Sumatra earthquake in 2005.

QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 13 2013, 04:39 PM)
y not put more money on Blackhawk instead.
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There is a security crisis in Sabah yesterday, and our defense forces have taken a necessary action to neutralizing the situation!

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PETALING JAYA: A group of armed foreigners who landed in Lahad Datu, Sabah on Tuesday has been surrounded by Malaysian security forces.

Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Ismail Omar said security forces surrounded the area when the intruders, believed to be from the Philippines, landed on Tuesday morning.

"They have been directed to put down their weapons and surrender," he said in a statement Wednesday.

Ismail said the intrusion was related to problems in southern Philippines.

"The situation is under control and the public need not be unduly worried," he said.

Earlier Wednesday, Defence Minister Datuk Seri Dr Zahid Hamidi said he had ordered Armed Forces chief Jen Tan Sri Zulkifeli Mohd Zin to take immediate action together with the police over the matter, to ensure the country's defences and security were at the optimum level.

"We will seek cooperation from neighbouring countries. I will also ask the Armed Forces chief to give a detailed report on the situation there when possible," he added.


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14 Febuary?
Please we Military Fan only remember the battle of Pasir Panjang!
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Indonesia purchased an additional batch of six Su-30MK2 fighters
By Russian Aviation | 13 February 2013 Wednesday | 18:10 MSK

Indonesia purchased an additional batch of six Su-30MK2 fighters , Lenta.ru reports with reference to the CEO of Rosoboronexport, Anatoly Isaykin.

The contract also assumes delivery of additional engines and materiel. Anatoly Isaykin did not unveil other details of this contract.

It was reported in autumn 2010 that Indonesia is going to purchase another six Su fighters (the fleet of Indonesian air forces already includes 10 Sukhoi fighters). The total value of the potential contract was assessed at $470 million. The Minister of Defense of Indonesia, Purnomo Yusgiantoro , stated that Djakarta is going to purchase a total of 180 Sukhoi fighters over the next 20 years . It was planned to form 10 squadrons of Su fighters.

Rosoboronexport and Indonesian Ministry of Defense negotiated in December 2011 on delivery of additional batch of Su-30MK2 fighters. It was reported that the main parameters of the contract have already been approved by the parties and Indonesia just has to define the jet’s configuration.

However, Defense Department Secretary General Errys Heryanto declared in August 2012 that Indonesia will not purchase Russian fighters . He explained this decision by sufficient number of aircraft in the fleet of tactical aviation and shortage of funds in the defense budget, which is hardly enough for renewal of the country’s fleet of military-transport aircraft.

Vnesheconombank and Indonesian Ministry of Defense signed an agreement in December 2012 on provision of the export credit to the amount of $399,5 million for the term of 7 years to Djakarta. It was reported that Indonesia will be able to finance the contract with Rosoboronexport using these funds.

http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2013/2/13/1524/

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180 sukhoi?? hell..RMAF buy 18 sukhoi pun trus dah kering budget..
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From Dzirhan Mahadzir - Defence Journalist

Army Day events:

Perarakan Anggota dan Aset Tentera Darat. (Orang ramai dijemput menyaksikan acara)

(1) Tarikh : 2 Mac 13 (Sat)
(2) Masa : 0800 pagi
(3) Lokasi : Port Dickson, Bandar Tentera Darat,
Negeri Sembilan. (Bermula dari jalan utama simpang masuk ke Pusat Latihan Asas Tentera Darat (PUSASDA) sehingga ke Pasukan 2 ARMOR.

Pertunjukkan Khas Komando dan Pasukan 10 Briged Para. (Orang ramai dijemput menyaksikan acara)

(1) Tarikh : 3 Mac 13 (Sun)
(2) Masa : 0900 pagi
(3) Lokasi : Pantai Saujana, Batu 4, Port Dickson, Bandar Tentera Darat, Negeri Sembilan.

Forum Perdana (Orang ramai dijemput hadir)

(1) Tarikh : 9 Mei 13 (Thu)
(2) Masa : 9.00 malam
(3) Lokasi : Padang Kawad, Pusat Latihan Asas Tentera Darat (PUSASDA), Port Dickson, Bandar Tentera Darat.

Pertunjukkan TATTOO Tentera Darat (Orang ramai dijemput hadir)

(1) Tarikh : 9 Mei 13 (Thu)
(2) Masa : 9.00 malam
(3) Lokasi : Padang Kawad, Pusat Latihan Asas Tentera Darat (PUSASDA), Port Dickson, Bandar Tentera Darat.

International Army Run (Penyertaan terbuka kepada orang ramai dan pendaftaran dibuka pada bulan April melalui Laman Web Tentera Darat)

(1) Tarikh : 9 Mei 13 (Thu)
(2) Masa : 0800 pagi
(3) Lokasi : Sekitar Pusat Latihan Asas Tentera Darat, Port Dickson, Bandar Tentera Darat

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 14 2013, 08:15 PM)
180 sukhoi?? hell..RMAF buy 18 sukhoi pun trus dah kering budget..
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TNI-AD should get chinook and Blackhawk.
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parliament already ask TNI to buy it, but i dont think TNI will accept it, cause indo has MI 17

some says TNI looking for new hello transport from US, cause the maintenance of russian hello is high and not effective rather than US made.
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Problems with Russian equipments are the long delays with getting spare parts.

QUOTE(meedoot @ Feb 14 2013, 10:02 PM)
parliament already ask TNI to buy it, but i dont think TNI will accept it, cause indo has MI 17

some says TNI looking for new hello transport from US, cause the maintenance of russian hello is high and not effective rather than US made.
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Problems with Russian equipments are the long delays with getting spare parts.
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The Indian Armed Forces have been complaining about the lack of Russian spare parts and part of the reasons that they are now turning to US equipments.

Mafia and money.

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we lack helis, fighter jets, corvettes, tanks, body armours, UAVs, what else? mann..if they could juz transfer some of the profits from Felda and Petronas to Mindef..
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By Alexis Romero (The Philippine Star)  | Updated February 14, 2013 - 12:00am

MANILA, Philippines - A California-based firm is offering the government 21 UH-1 or Huey helicopters for P1.2646 billion for use in the May elections.

The Air Force made the request for additional Hueys in 2011.

The offer was accepted because the amount is lower than the allotted P1.2649 billion.

Rice Aircraft Services Inc. was the sole bidder for the helicopters.

It was declared an eligible bidder after submitting all the necessary documentary requirements to the Bids and Awards Committee.

Defense Undersecretary Fernando Manalo told The STAR the helicopters will be delivered by March 31, weeks before the elections.

The helicopters will enable the Air Force to meet the airlift requirements during the May polls, he added.

Originally, two firms submitted bids for the delivery of the helicopters. However, the other bidder – Israel-based Radom Aviation Systems Ltd. – backed out.

Radom reportedly wrote to the defense department about its decision to withdraw its bid.

Defense officials said the company did not say why it was backing out.

Rice cannot yet be declared the winning bidder as it has to pass the post-qualification requirements that the defense department had set.

The post-qualification stage seeks to determine whether the bid is responsive to the technical and financial requirements of the project.

Rice can only be named the winning bidder after it receives a notice of award from the government.

The UH-1 is the primary helicopter of the Air Force.


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Souce:Xinhua Publish By Thomas Whittle Updated 15/02/2013 3:52 am in World

JAKARTA, Feb. 13 — The Indonesian House of Representatives has approved a military budget worth 1.56 billion U.S. dollars to update Indonesia’s weapons system this year, aiming to strengthen and modernize the country’s military arsenal, an army general said Wednesday.

Army Chief of Staff Pramono Edhie Wibowo said the 1.56 billion U.S. dollars budget approved was to buy new weapons and replace the old ones simultaneously by phase in 2013.

“The army will acquire 24 units of helicopters of 412 type, Leopard tanks, cannons and rockets with a firing range of up to 100 kilometers,” Pramono said, adding that negotiations are in progress for the purchase of 20 units of helicopters of black hawk type.

Indonesia’s Antara news agency quoted the General Pramono as saying that the army would start buying the equipment directly from the producing countries in line with the procedure and the equipment would be distributed by phase to various regions which need modernization of weapons system.

As the biggest country and economy in Southeast Asia, Indonesia has begun to leverage its growing economy to overhaul its aging military hardware. Indonesia raised its defense budget to 8 billion U.S. dollars for 2013, a 6.6 percent increase from last year.


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Posted on February 15, 2013, Friday

KUALA LUMPUR: The Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) plans to beef up its firepower capacities by having at least 12 more bases nationwide to shorten response time from two hours to one hour.

Its deputy director-general (operations), Maritime Admiral Datuk Ahmad Puzi Ab Kahar said the MMEA aspired to have 30 bases throughout the country from 18 at present.

“We would like to have a base or a post at every 60 nautical miles along the coastline to enable us to swing into action quickly upon receiving information,” he told Bernama recently.

Ahmad Fuzi said the additional bases, which were earmarked for islands off the mainland like Pulau Jarak, Perak, would be equipped with a 24-hour operations room, to receive information on crimes at sea.

The MMEA also has 12 radars equipped with cameras, nine of them along the west coast of the peninsula and three more in the east coast of Sabah, to track the movement of vessels involved in criminal activities, especially smuggling in Malaysian waters, he added.

“For example, we detected suspected criminals attempting to board a ship from a boat at Tanjung Piai, Johor at 1:50am last year via a radar equipped with cameras,” he said.

Ahmad Fuzi said the MMEA also capitalised on two mobile radars in hotspot areas that did not have radars with cameras like the coastline of Penang and Perak.

The mobile radars track down speeding boats through a sound detection system without the use of visual recording. — Bernama


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Monday 11 February 2013, Amsterdam

The Indonesian defense market, estimated to value US$8.1 billion in 2013, is expected to grow at a CAGR of 22.4% during the forecast period (2013-2017) to value US$18.2 billion in 2017. The primary stimulator of defense expenditure is the government military modernization program, which was undertaken to compensate for severe military underfunding during the review period (2008-2012). It is currently estimated that the defense budget is capable of satisfying only 52% of the country’s required military defense expenditure.

Indonesia is frequently affected by natural disasters, in which the army is usually deployed to assist search and rescue operations. In preparation for future natural disasters, government expenditure is expected to increase in defense sectors during the forecast period. Furthermore, Indonesia’s geographical make-up comprises over 17,000 islands, and there is currently a border dispute with Malaysia, which is another factor fuelling defense investment. In addition, there has been an increase in criminal activity such as illegal fishing, illegal logging, human trafficking, pirate attacks, and arms smuggling along the Indonesian coast, which increased defense spending will help to addresses

Over the review period, the country’s defense expenditure was 0.7% of its GDP, which will increase during the forecast period to reach 1% of GDP in 2017. In 2012, capital expenditure was allocated 40% of the overall defense budget, while revenue expenditure was allocated 60%. However, due to the government plans to modernize the military through the acquisition of the latest weaponry, capital expenditure is expected to increase and average 41% of the total defense budget, with the remainder allocated for revenue expenditure.


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guys...any news about the lahad datu incident? local news seem to didn't give a shit about it..
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Malaysian security forces prepared to move in to Tanduo at any time
17 February 2013 Sunday | 11:34:00 AM MYT

LAHAD DATU: Malaysian security forces are prepared to move in to the seaside village of Tanduo at any time.

Police, army and maritime security forces are waiting to deport the over 100 Filipino gunmen holed up in the village within Felda Sahabat 17.

According to Filipino media, the group is led by crown prince Rajah Mudah Agbimuddin Kira, brother of Sultan Jamalul Kiram III.

The gunmen have told the media that they will remain in the east coast of Sabah, claiming it is their ancestral home.

Leader Rajah Muda has also reportedly said the group will be staying put and has no intention of leaving until its demands are met.

Malaysian security forces prepared to move in to Tanduo at any time - Nation | The Star Online

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there's going to be an assault to drive them out then? no more negotiations? my god..300 of them..so many..

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we might lose Sabah or we might have a new Sultan from Sulu..mannn..i can't imagine how the goverment going to settle this sabah dispute..
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 17 2013, 01:29 PM)
we might lose Sabah or we might have a new Sultan from Sulu..mannn..i can't imagine how the goverment going to settle this sabah dispute..
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that's not going to happened!

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but the Sulu Sultan have a solid proof for their claim on Sabah..if he takes it to ICJ, it's going to be more complicated..
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 17 2013, 01:37 PM)
but the Sulu Sultan have a solid proof for their claim on Sabah..if he takes it to ICJ, it's going to be more complicated..
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No lah, the current situation is the Father of the so called raja muda will come and take his son back.
If in Grik, after the family persuade it, the military move in.

maybe similar too hmm.gif
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 17 2013, 01:50 PM)
No lah, the current situation is the Father of the so called raja muda will come and take his son back.
If in Grik, after the family persuade it, the military move in.

maybe similar too  hmm.gif
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thats not what the pinoy news said..they said the Rajah Mudah Agbimuddin Kiram won't budge from lahad datu and the Sultan Jamalul Kiram II approved it..
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/64715/sul...ltan-wont-budge
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 17 2013, 02:06 PM)
thats not what the pinoy news said..they said the Rajah Mudah Agbimuddin Kiram won't budge from lahad datu and the  Sultan Jamalul Kiram II approved it..
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/64715/sul...ltan-wont-budge
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[quote=kerolzarmyfanboy,Feb 17 2013, 01:37 PM]
but the Sulu Sultan have a solid proof for their claim on Sabah..if he takes it to ICJ, it's going to be more complicated..
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evan if sultan sulu had dozen of evidence to claim their right to take to icj...malaysia govt. will not entertain this issue.
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i know..if they won't budge, then lets just bombard them to hell with our artilleries..
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diorg harap kalo xdpt bina negara Sulu sndiri un, diorg boleh jadik sultan sabah dan dpt hak giliran ntuk jdik YDPA Malaysia..tuh lgi teruk..if that happens, all Moro people will flood into Sabah..
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diorg harap kalo xdpt bina negara Sulu sndiri un, diorg boleh jadik sultan sabah dan dpt hak giliran ntuk jdik YDPA Malaysia..tuh lgi teruk..if that happens, all Moro people will flood into Sabah..
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it's alright..the armed group agreed to leave lahad datu but they want to see a person first..siapa agaknya ek yg diorg nk jumpa tuh..
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so..about that local USV..RM 30k each rite? thats quite cheap..equip them with machine guns, infrared vision. etc..gomen should buy atleast 20 of them to patrol Sabah..
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Regarding Sabah current issue, government should have a clear stance on it.

I do appreciate and glad that our armed forces are not "trigger happy" type compared to some other country and seek to end this without bloodshed, but if this is not handle properly, it might result in absurdity.

If this sets a bad example, it could have a many kinds of impact in the future.
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when i heard the militants have family in sabah and they have supporters in Sabah, i'm starting to doubt the level of Sabah people's loyalty to the country..
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 19 2013, 10:01 AM)
when i heard the militants have family in sabah and they have supporters in Sabah, i'm starting to doubt the level of Sabah people's loyalty to the country..
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Oh ? Perhaps you should also start doubting the loyalty of PDRM for allowing illegals to stay, the loyalty of the Immigration Dept for giving illegals PR, the loyalty of TLDM in letting their boats get through our borders & reaching the shore, the loyalty of the Home Ministry in down playing the issue.

You may also wonder where the loyalty of LHDN is, for allowing illegals to live tax free. How about the loyalty of Petronas in supplying anybody with $$ fuel to get in and out of M'sia etc etc etc

sheessh.

What you really should be concerned about is how Sabah-ans feel regarding their porous border. The danger is not only armed people coming in, but kidnappings going out.


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the armed forces are loyal..but they don't have enough assets to patrol all the maritime border..modern frigate and corvettes that we bought are use for Spratlys i guess..for police and Immigrations, you're rite and i can't deny, they are corrupted for sure..sorry if what i said before was offensive..why not we send the Territorial Army (wataniah) to Sabah? btw, i thought immigration issues in Sabah and Sarawak are handled by the state government themselves..

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USAF to test RAAF top fighter pilots
By Australianaviation.com.au | 19 February 2013 Tuesday | 3:20 pm

A brace of USAF F-16 fighters has arrived at RAAF Base Williamtown to participate in the RAAF’s Fighter Combat Instructors’ (FCI) course.

The aircraft, which are based at Eielson AFB in Alaska, are painted in dissimilar combat markings and its pilots are trained to mimic those tactics used by potential adversaries.

Commander Air Combat Group AIRCDRE Tony Grady said: “To be a Fighter Combat Instructor, you need to have attained the highest level of leadership as a fighter pilot to even qualify for this course, so the training is very highly regarded.”

To this end, the USAF F-16 unit also possesses some of the USAF’s best pilots.

http://australianaviation.com.au/2013/02/u...fighter-pilots/
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Bazuki Muhammad | The gunmen in Lahad Datu

By
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Published February 19, 2013

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A special police force guards the area about 3km (2 miles) away from
the location where armed men are holding off, during a visit by a
minister in Sahabat 17 plantation farm, outside Lahad Datu on Borneo
island February 19, 2013. About 100 armed men holed up in a village in
the Malaysian state of Sabah are refusing to leave, saying they have
links with the Sultanate of Sulu in the Philippines which has a historic
claim over the northern tip of Borneo island. Malaysia police and army
officials have formed a tight security ring around the village, media
said, with navy boats patrolling nearby islands. The gunmen landed near
the coastal town of Lahad Datu on Tuesday. REUTERS/Bazuki Muhammad
(MALAYSIA – Tags: CIVIL UNREST MILITARY POLITICS)

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A special police force unit leads a convoy of a minister and his team
after their visit to the area about 3km (2 miles) away from the
location where armed men are holding off, in Sahabat 17 plantation farm,
outside Lahad Datu on Borneo island February 19, 2013. About 100 armed
men holed up in a village in the Malaysian state of Sabah are refusing
to leave, saying they have links with the Sultanate of Sulu in the
Philippines which has a historic claim over the northern tip of Borneo
island. Malaysia police and army officials have formed a tight security
ring around the village, media said, with navy boats patrolling nearby
islands. The gunmen landed near the coastal town of Lahad Datu on
Tuesday. REUTERS/Bazuki Muhammad (MALAYSIA – Tags: CIVIL UNREST MILITARY
POLITICS)

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A member of the special police force guards the beach near an area
where armed men are holding off, in Felda Sahabat plantation farm,
outside Lahad Datu on Borneo island February 19, 2013. A peace deal
between the Philippines and Muslim rebels has alienated traditional
rulers and their followers about 100 of whom have occupied a village in
nearby Malaysia, a member of the old ruling family said on Monday. The
stand-off with police in Malaysia’s eastern state of Sabah has
threatened to spark tension between the Philippines and Malaysia, whose
ties have been periodically frayed by security and migration problems
along their sea border. REUTERS/Bazuki Muhammad (MALAYSIA – Tags: CIVIL
UNREST MILITARY POLITICS)

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Malaysia’s armed police arrive at the jetty after patrolling the sea
near Lahad Datu in the state of Sabah on Borneo island February 16,
2013. About 100 armed men holed up in a village in the Malaysian state
of Sabah are refusing to leave, saying they have links with the
Sultanate of Sulu in the Philippines which has a historic claim over the
northern tip of Borneo island. Malaysia police and army officials have
formed a tight security ring around the village, media said, with navy
boats patrolling nearby islands. The gunmen landed near the coastal town
of Lahad Datu on Tuesday. REUTERS/Bazuki Muhammad (MALAYSIA – Tags:
CIVIL UNREST MILITARY POLITICS)

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Malaysia’s armed police inspect a vehicle outside Lahad Datu in the
state of Sabah on Borneo island February 16, 2013. About 100 armed men
holed up in a village in the Malaysian state of Sabah are refusing to
leave, saying they have links with the Sultanate of Sulu in the
Philippines which has a historic claim over the northern tip of Borneo
island. Malaysia police and army officials have formed a tight security
ring around the village, media said, with navy boats patrolling nearby
islands. The gunmen landed near the coastal town of Lahad Datu on
Tuesday. REUTERS/Bazuki Muhammad (MALAYSIA – Tags: CIVIL UNREST POLITICS
MILITARY)


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hmm still waiting for them to go peacefully if not will be a slaughter and we might end up as bad country again...
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 19 2013, 12:04 AM)
so..about that local USV..RM 30k each rite? thats quite cheap..equip them with machine guns, infrared vision. etc..gomen should buy atleast 20 of them to patrol Sabah..
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yep, but that just the cost of the boat alone!

QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Feb 19 2013, 12:05 AM)
Regarding Sabah current issue, government should have a clear stance on it.

I do appreciate and glad that our armed forces are not "trigger happy" type compared to some other country and seek to end this without bloodshed, but if this is not handle properly, it might result in absurdity.

If this sets a bad example, it could have a many kinds of impact in the future.
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the chain of command is MKN -> PDRM/ATM

QUOTE(bf48qo @ Feb 20 2013, 01:45 AM)
hmm still waiting for them to go peacefully if not will be a slaughter and we might end up as bad country again...
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agree, much can escalate with from how this thing are handle!
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Armed intruders running out of food

LAHAD DATU: The group of armed intruders at a coastal village here are running out of food.

A resident who encountered the group when they arrived at Kampung Tanduo, here, a week ago said they had entered her house and used it as their quarters along with a few other premises in the vicinity.

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but how did they able to infiltrate so easily ? since ops sipadan, surely there are more troops guarding sabah's border..security should have been more tight since then..
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 20 2013, 07:32 AM)
but how did they able to infiltrate so easily ? since ops sipadan, surely there are more troops guarding sabah's border..security should have been more tight since then..
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only 2 posibility..

1. they never lesson maybe, and thing it never happen again...

2. the infiltration team has study the malaysian army movement, the time they patrol, and how to avoid them...
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Deftech buys CTRM from MOF

KUALA LUMPUR: DRB-HICOM Bhd is expanding into aircraft composite components design and manufacturing via the acquisition of Composites Technology Research Malaysia Sdn Bhd (CTRM).

DRB-HICOM, through DRB-HICOM Defence Technologies Sdn Bhd (Deftech), is paying RM298.3 million for a 96.87 per cent stake in CTRM from the Minister of Finance Inc (MOF).

The group said in a filing to Bursa Malaysia yesterday Deftech will sign a definitive sale and purchase agreement (SPA) with MOF upon satisfactory outcome of the due diligence on CTRM.

CTRM develops and produces aircraft composites parts, notably for Boeing, from its facilities in Batu Berendam, Malacca.

It also designs, develops and manufactures composite parts for aerospace and non-aerospace applications including those for the defence and automotive industries.

Read more: Deftechbuys CTRM from MOF http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...l#ixzz2LPNz0YLC
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QUOTE(99FoxDemon @ Feb 20 2013, 07:38 AM)
only 2 posibility..

1. they never lesson maybe, and thing it never happen again...

2. the infiltration team has study the malaysian army movement, the time they patrol, and how to avoid them...
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actually..sometimes it is pretty easy to slip by...coz the sea is like soooo wide....and we dont have sufficient vessels to sweep the sea without leaving a loophole....

i remember when i was on holiday in sabah couple years back in an island, they station 20 army there to cover the whole island..they go patrol with speedboat..but my 2 days there, i only saw them once...or maybe the other time i was in-door...but what i wanted to say is, there are times when the speedboat's sweeping elsewhere instead of location A, B or C...and that's when someone might slip in....

oh..and i managed to talk to a couple of the army folks with steyr also...but i didnt ask whether i can hold it or not.. maybe i shud at least ask..except their malay sounds different with semenanjung..so kinda hav problem having a normal conversation... sad.gif
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QUOTE(99FoxDemon @ Feb 20 2013, 07:38 AM)
only 2 posibility..

1. they never lesson maybe, and thing it never happen again...

2. the infiltration team has study the malaysian army movement, the time they patrol, and how to avoid them...
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Yep, plus most of them know the local water well
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but speedboat's price is just a few hundred thousand ringgit aren't they? why they can't buy more speedboats but they can buy those expensive and few in number NGPV?
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 17 2013, 01:37 PM)
but the Sulu Sultan have a solid proof for their claim on Sabah..if he takes it to ICJ, it's going to be more complicated..
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SULU


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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Feb 20 2013, 02:34 PM)
SULU
Bukan Negeri Bukan Negara Only Pinoy Puppet...  wink.gif
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chances is that the sulu sultan will go icj under philippine flag, never under his ownself
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I think we need a good systems to cover a wide areas.
We serious need coastal radar which capable of detect smaller ship.
Other need would be MPA, UAV and Patrol boat for MMEA.
locating MMEA base in several strategic level is important too to ensure easy and deployment of force if needed.

given our limited manpower we need technology to cover it for efficient use of our manpower.

QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Feb 20 2013, 12:05 PM)
actually..sometimes it is pretty easy to slip by...coz the sea is like soooo wide....and we dont have sufficient vessels to sweep the sea without leaving a loophole....

i remember when i was on holiday in sabah couple years back in an island, they station 20 army there to cover the whole island..they go patrol with speedboat..but my 2 days there, i only saw them once...or maybe the other time i was in-door...but what i wanted to say is, there are times when the speedboat's sweeping elsewhere instead of location A, B or C...and that's when someone might slip in....

oh..and i managed to talk to a couple of the army folks with steyr also...but i didnt ask whether i can hold it or not.. maybe i shud at least ask..except their malay sounds different with semenanjung..so kinda hav problem having a normal conversation... sad.gif
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An effective assets is much prefer.
how many speedboat's you need to buy to cover a huge areas.
can they effectively spots invaders from far?

QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 20 2013, 02:25 PM)
but speedboat's price is just a few hundred thousand ringgit aren't they? why they can't buy more speedboats but they can buy those expensive and few in number NGPV?
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 20 2013, 03:04 PM)
I think we need a good systems to cover a wide areas.
We serious need coastal radar which capable of detect smaller ship.
Other need would be MPA, UAV and Patrol boat for MMEA.
locating MMEA base in several strategic level is important too to ensure easy and deployment of force if needed.
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agree! coastal radar is the best solution..
else no matter how much we spend in acquiring vessels..it wouldnt be sufficient...and on top of that, every vessels need sufficient manpower to handle and maintain...which by itself is another long-term costs....
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BEBERAPA anggota keselamatan meninjau keadaan Kampung Tandou dari jarak 1 kilometer kampung itu, di Lahad Datu, hari ini.

Selasa lalu, pasukan keselamatan menemui sekumpulan warga asing
bersenjata yang berpakaian tentera mendarat di pesisir Lahad Datu dan
polis sudah mengenalpasti kumpulan warga Filipina yang mendarat di
Kampung Tandou itu sebagai pewaris berketurunan 'Raja Sulu' dari Selatan
Filipina. - Foto Zunnur Al Shafiq
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user posted image

BEBERAPA anggota keselamatan meninjau keadaan Kampung Tandou dari jarak 1 kilometer kampung itu, di Lahad Datu, hari ini.

Selasa lalu, pasukan keselamatan menemui sekumpulan warga asing
bersenjata yang berpakaian tentera mendarat di pesisir Lahad Datu dan
polis sudah mengenalpasti kumpulan warga Filipina yang mendarat di
Kampung Tandou itu sebagai pewaris berketurunan 'Raja Sulu' dari Selatan
Filipina. - Foto Zunnur Al Shafiq
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now that..is one bigg S bino!
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yep, naise spotter scope that!
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Indonesia-Malaysia Patroli Gabungan di Nunukan

Metrotvnews.com, Nunukan: Ratusan TNI Satgas Pamtas Yonif 407 Padmakusuma Diponegoro melakukan patroli gabungan, dengan tentara Diraja Malaysia yang bertugas di pos pengamanan perbatasan Simanggaris, Kabupaten Nunukan, Kalimantan Timur.

Patroli gabungan ini dilakukan terkait adanya isu ratusan tentara Kerajaan Kesultanan Sulu Filipina yang mendarat di daerah Lahad Datu, Sabah, Malaysia. Sebanyak 29 pos pengamanan diseluruh perbatasan Nunukan dengan Malaysia diperintahkan untuk berjaga 1x24 jam.

Komandan Satgas Pamtas Yonif 407 Padmakusuma Diponegoro Mayor Infantri Ari Aprianto mengatakan telah mendapat perintah untuk siap siaga 1x24 jam, di setiap pos pengamanan perbatasan tersebut.(Dni)

VIDEO inside :

http://www.metrotvnews.com/metronews/video...ngan-di-Nunukan

hope everything will be fine..
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is that ghillie suit?? that guy is sniper??
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QUOTE(meedoot @ Feb 20 2013, 05:18 PM)
Indonesia-Malaysia Patroli Gabungan di Nunukan

Metrotvnews.com, Nunukan: Ratusan TNI Satgas Pamtas Yonif 407 Padmakusuma Diponegoro melakukan patroli gabungan, dengan tentara Diraja Malaysia yang bertugas di pos pengamanan perbatasan Simanggaris, Kabupaten Nunukan, Kalimantan Timur.

Patroli gabungan ini dilakukan terkait adanya isu ratusan tentara Kerajaan Kesultanan Sulu Filipina yang mendarat di daerah Lahad Datu, Sabah, Malaysia. Sebanyak 29 pos pengamanan diseluruh perbatasan Nunukan dengan Malaysia diperintahkan untuk berjaga 1x24 jam.

Komandan Satgas Pamtas Yonif 407 Padmakusuma Diponegoro Mayor Infantri Ari Aprianto mengatakan telah mendapat perintah untuk siap siaga 1x24 jam, di setiap pos pengamanan perbatasan tersebut.(Dni)

VIDEO inside :

http://www.metrotvnews.com/metronews/video...ngan-di-Nunukan

hope everything will be fine..
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QUOTE(99FoxDemon @ Feb 20 2013, 05:21 PM)
is that ghillie suit?? that guy is sniper??
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 20 2013, 03:04 PM)
I think we need a good systems to cover a wide areas.
We serious need coastal radar which capable of detect smaller ship.
Other need would be MPA, UAV and Patrol boat for MMEA.
locating MMEA base in several strategic level is important too to ensure easy and deployment of force if needed.

given our limited manpower we need technology to cover it for efficient use of our manpower.
An effective assets is much prefer.
how many speedboat's you need to buy to cover a huge areas.
can they effectively spots invaders from far?
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Singapore orders two additional S-70B helicopters
By Greg Waldron | 20 February 2013 Wednesday

Singapore has signed a contract for two additional Sikorsky S-70B seaborne helicopters, with the rotocraft due for delivery in 2016.

The new aircraft will have a "different weapons kit" to the Republic of Singapore Navy's existing fleet of six S-70Bs, says an industry source, who declines to provide exact details about how they will be equipped.

Singapore's existing S-70Bs, which were inaugurated into service in January 2011, are optimised for anti-submarine warfare duties, with an L-3 long-range active sonar and torpedoes.

According to Sikorsky's website, the S-70B can be configured for several other missions, including anti-surface warfare (ASuW), search and rescue, medical evacuation and vertical replenishment.

In the ASuW role, the type can be armed with up to eight Lockheed Martin AGM-114 Hellfire air-to-surface missiles, as well as machine guns and cannons.

Although Singapore's S-70Bs operate from the nation's six Formidable-class frigates, they are flown and maintained by air force personnel.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/...copters-382523/
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KUALA LUMPUR : DRB-HICOM Bhd is expanding into aircraft composite components design and manufacturing via the acquisition of Composites Technology Research Malaysia Sdn Bhd (CTRM).

DRB-HICOM, through DRB-HICOM Defence Technologies Sdn Bhd (Deftech), is paying RM298.3 million for a 96.87 per cent stake in CTRM from the Minister of Finance Inc (MOF).

The group said in a filing to Bursa Malaysia yesterday Deftech will sign a definitive sale and purchase agreement (SPA) with MOF upon satisfactory outcome of the due diligence on CTRM.

CTRM develops and produces aircraft composites parts, notably for Boeing, from its facilities in Batu Berendam, Malacca.

It also designs, develops and manufactures composite parts for aerospace and non-aerospace applications including those for the defence and automotive industries.



- Business Times -





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Abe Hek mesti suka.... DEFTECH + PROTON + CTRM = MALAYSIA MENUJU KUASA BESAR DUNIA
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singapore bought anti-sub helos eh..? they are clearly targeting our subs..
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China intends to buy Russia's Sukhoi Su-35
20 February 2013 Wednesday | 11:37

ABU DHABI (UAE). Feb 20 (Interfax) - China has signed an intergovernmental agreement with Russia to purchase Sukhoi Su-35 multirole fighters.

"Consistent with our understanding with China, we actually signed an intergovernmental agreement this January to supply Su-35 jets to China," Federal Military-Technical Cooperation Service Deputy Director Vyacheslav Dzirkaln told Interfax-AVBN at the IDEX 2013 arms show in Abu Dhabi. He heads the Russian delegation to the show.

Consultations will start shortly to draft the Su-35 contract, he said. "This is only natural; we keep to the plan," Dzirkaln added.

He did not say when the contract might be signed and how many Su-35 jets would be delivered to China. Yet he said there would be no license and China would acquire finished products.

Asked whether there was a chance to reanimate the Su-27 licensed assembly contract suspended by China, Dzirkaln said the contract was signed in the 1990s. "More than 20 years have passed and the jet has changed, probably, the Chinese partners are no longer interested in the Su-27 jet the way it was described in the contract. I do not think the contract will be restored," Dzirkaln said.

China is the biggest foreign user of Su-27/30 aircraft. A total of 281 jets of the kind were supplied to China in different years. Besides, China started production of J-11B fighters - actual clones of Su-27.


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http://www.interfax.com/newsinf.asp?pg=5&id=397152
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DRB-Hicom accepts Govt’s RM298mil offer for CTRM



PETALING JAYA : Automotive giant DRB-Hicom Bhd has accepted an offer from the Finance Ministry to acquire the latter’s entire equity interest in composites manufacturing and engineering group Composites Technology Research Malaysia Sdn Bhd (CTRM) for a cash consideration of about RM298.3mil.

The group will acquire the 466.78 million shares of RM1 each, representing a 96.87% stake in CTRM, via wholly owned subsidiary DRB-Hicom Defence Technologies Sdn Bhd (Deftech),

In a filing with Bursa Malaysia, DRB-Hicom stated that it would pay the ministry based on the satisfactory outcome of the due diligence on CTRM group as well as the negotiated terms and conditions in the sale and purchase agreement (SPA) between the ministry and Deftech.

It said : “ Upon satisfaction of the above conditions, Deftech will enter into a definitive SPA with the ministry. ”

CTRM is mainly involved in the development and production of aircraft composites components while its subsidiaries are involved in the designing, developing and manufacturing of composite components for aerospace and non-aerospace applications, which are also used in the defence and automotive industries.

The company was reported to be targeting Asean countries to market its unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) last June.

Group chief marketing officer Datuk Wan Abd Halim Abd Majid was quoted as saying that the prospects for the regional UAV segment were good due to player figures numbering a few.



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Russian Military to Develop Anti-Meteorite Defenses




20:02 20/02/2013


MOSCOW, February 20 (RIA Novosti) – The Russian Aerospace Defense Forces will develop a series of measures aimed at protecting the Russian soil from falling meteorites and other dangerous space objects, commander of the western military district’s aviation Maj. Gen. Igor Makushev said on Wednesday.

“ The Aerospace Defense Forces have been ordered to handle this issue and come up with a plan to protect Russia from these ‘space travelers, ’” Makushev said.

The announcement comes days after a meteorite entered the Earth’s atmosphere undetected by existing space-monitoring means and slammed into Russia’s Urals on Friday with a massive boom that blew out windows and damaged thousands of buildings around the city of Chelyabinsk, injuring 1,200 people in the area. According to the Health Ministry, 52 were hospitalized.

NASA estimates the meteorite was roughly 50 feet (15 meters) in diameter when it entered Earth's atmosphere, travelling faster than the speed of sound, and exploded into a fireball brighter than the sun.

“ None of the existing systems, either Russian or American, detected this space object until it entered the atmosphere,” Director of the Astronomy Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences Boris Shustov said on Wednesday.

The scientist said it was impossible to spot the meteorite, as it was coming from the direction of the Sun, while radars were set to detect objects flying within a predetermined speed range.

Shustov said the Russian scientists estimate the energy released at the time of the explosion at less than 500 kiloton equivalent.

He also said astronomers have discovered and catalogued only two percent of potentially dangerous space objects about 50 meters in size, which are capable of causing a catastrophe worse than the Tunguska Event.

“ It is a sign of our ignorance, as we should be able to monitor about at least 90 percent if not all of these objects, ” Shustov said.



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the fk is anti meteorite defense xD

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 20 2013, 09:21 PM)
singapore bought anti-sub helos eh..? they are clearly targeting our subs..
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we're not the only country having subs in this region. Is it so clear to you that they are targeting only us doh.gif
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for everything we bought, they buy something else to counter it..and they counter it with more modern and deadly assets..PT-91M with Apache and leopard, Mig-29 and Sukhoi Vs F-16 and F-15SG, etc..this is not something new actually..besides, of all the subs in this region, we have the most stealthy and modern subs..although we only have two..
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 20 2013, 09:21 PM)
singapore bought anti-sub helos eh..? they are clearly targeting our subs..
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we are considering getting bigger helis for anti-subs missions..

QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 22 2013, 02:51 PM)
for everything we bought, they buy something else to counter it..and they counter it with more modern and deadly assets..PT-91M with Apache and leopard, Mig-29 and Sukhoi Vs F-16 and F-15SG, etc..this is not something new actually..besides, of all the subs in this region, we have the most stealthy and modern subs..although we only have two..
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Normal la, if got no justification, how to request budget for buy?
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FULLERTON, Calif. – ThalesRaytheonSystems today announced full system acceptance has been finalized with the Royal Malaysian Air Force for the Malaysian Air Defense Ground Environment Sector Operations Center III (MADGE) Program. ThalesRaytheonSystems provided the Malaysian Ministry of Defence an enhanced national command and control system.

“The C2 system we’ve executed in Malaysia represents technological integration at its best,” said Kim Kerry, CEO of U.S. Operations for ThalesRaytheonSystems. “We worked with our Malaysian customers to integrate their legacy system and have augmented it with proven technologies, such as the Sentry® command and control system and the Ground Master 400 (GM 400) radar. The result is a system that reliably and effectively meets their requirements.”

The MADGE system operates in real-time and features multi-radar tracking and a flexible human-machine interface. The GM 400 radar will provide additional long-range surveillance capabilities for the Royal Malaysian Air Force.

ThalesRaytheonSystems has more installed command and control systems operating around the world than any other organization. The Sentry command and control system is a proven, comprehensive, real-time system that powers national air sovereignty systems around the world, including the NORAD Battle Control System. The company is also a world leader in battlefield and weapon-locating radar systems. The company’s radar capabilities span short-, medium-, and long-range systems. The ground-based radars are capable of detecting both conventional and unconventional threats for homeland and tactical air defense, counter-battery, and weapons system coordination.


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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Feb 21 2013, 05:58 PM)
China intends to buy Russia's Sukhoi Su-35
20 February 2013 Wednesday | 11:37

ABU DHABI (UAE). Feb 20 (Interfax) - China has signed an intergovernmental agreement with Russia to purchase Sukhoi Su-35 multirole fighters.

"Consistent with our understanding with China, we actually signed an intergovernmental agreement this January to supply Su-35 jets to China," Federal Military-Technical Cooperation Service Deputy Director Vyacheslav Dzirkaln told Interfax-AVBN at the IDEX 2013 arms show in Abu Dhabi. He heads the Russian delegation to the show.

Consultations will start shortly to draft the Su-35 contract, he said. "This is only natural; we keep to the plan," Dzirkaln added.

He did not say when the contract might be signed and how many Su-35 jets would be delivered to China. Yet he said there would be no license and China would acquire finished products.

Asked whether there was a chance to reanimate the Su-27 licensed assembly contract suspended by China, Dzirkaln said the contract was signed in the 1990s. "More than 20 years have passed and the jet has changed, probably, the Chinese partners are no longer interested in the Su-27 jet the way it was described in the contract. I do not think the contract will be restored," Dzirkaln said.

China is the biggest foreign user of Su-27/30 aircraft. A total of 281 jets of the kind were supplied to China in different years. Besides, China started production of J-11B fighters - actual clones of Su-27.
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http://www.interfax.com/newsinf.asp?pg=5&id=397152
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Let me see Russia has been spewing alot of this same old rubbish since 2006 on China buying Su-35. Somehow every event they love to tell the same old story. Until China government confirms such deals in their official news than it will still be a russian folklore.
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 22 2013, 02:51 PM)
for everything we bought, they buy something else to counter it..and they counter it with more modern and deadly assets..PT-91M with Apache and leopard, Mig-29 and Sukhoi Vs F-16 and F-15SG, etc..this is not something new actually..besides, of all the subs in this region, we have the most stealthy and modern subs..although we only have two..
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plz refrain yourself on Malaysia vs Singapore and so on.
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alrite..i'm just saying..after lahad datu incident, gomen should start to prioritize budget for defence..instead of giving them for baucar 1M'sia n etc..
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TNI-AU receives two new SU30MK2.

http://nasional.kompas.com/read/2013/02/22..._campaign=Khlwp
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QUOTE(souless223 @ Feb 22 2013, 08:51 AM)
the fk is anti meteorite defense xD
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as it implies...anti meteorite
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QUOTE(strikeuk @ Feb 24 2013, 01:16 PM)
as it implies...anti meteorite
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it means the russian want to pew pew pew the meteorites..haha
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Lahad Datu stand-off: Clock ticking for armed group
By MUGUNTAN VANAR | Updated: 24 February 2013 Sunday | MYT 12:10:49 PM

LAHAD DATU: The clock is ticking away for the Sulu armed group holed up at the Tanduo village as the Sunday deadline draws near with no sign of them giving up peacefully.

Reports emerged that the group by Raja Muda Azzumudie, the brother of Sultan Jamalul Kiram III was running short of food supplies with the Malaysian security forces maintaining a tight sea and land cordon around them.

The earlier Friday deadline was extended by 48-hours after the Philippines government requested for a four-day extension till Tuesday on the grounds that Manila was trying to persuade the Sulu group to give up their stand.

Azzumudie was reportedly in contact with Sultan Kiram who has told the group to stay put at the village till the Sabah claim demands were discussed but to avoid violence.

According to the Philippine Inquirer quoting Abraham Idjirani, secretary general of the self-proclaim Sultanate of Sulu, Azzumudie talked with Jamalul and him on Saturday, telling them they were eating root crops and vegetables found in the village.

He said the group had been told to remain calm and keep their muzzles of their riffles down to signify that they had no hostile intent.

As of Saturday, Idjirani said Jamalul's orders to the Azzumuddie remained unchanged that they hold their ground at Tanduo village.

Except for one villager identified as Pakcik Umrah, the remaining families from 15 homes fled Tanduo from the day the Sulu group landed on Feb 9.

Both the Malaysian and Philippines government are trying to resolve the standoff that has entered its third week.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...4528&sec=nation

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is that the AV8??
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is that the AV8??
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yup.
AV8 prototype.
expect a more refine version when the development complete.
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Hopefully can see it at 2013 LIMA.

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Feb 25 2013, 01:30 PM)
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Probably much sooner!
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Feb 25 2013, 01:49 PM)
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That 1 cannot even withstand RPG 7 la. It did not win any of them. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Feb 25 2013, 02:05 PM)
That 1 cannot even withstand RPG 7 la. It did not win any of them.  tongue.gif
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actually was the damage from rpg or because it got thrown into the pillars by the rpg?

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was wondering... can a civilian legally buy and drive a de-militarized, de-armed such armored vehicle in malaysia? laugh.gif would be a nice option in cases of flash flood i think, especially if it got the amphibious capability... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Feb 25 2013, 04:31 PM)
was wondering... can a civilian legally buy and drive a de-militarized, de-armed such armored vehicle in malaysia?  laugh.gif would be a nice option in cases of flash flood i think, especially if it got the amphibious capability...  laugh.gif
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I want to know the answer too biggrin.gif


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u'll need a HI driving license for that..lol
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Feb 25 2013, 01:49 PM)
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Feb 25 2013, 01:49 PM)
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I doubt it.
The design is not viable for military at all.
what is the role for it? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 25 2013, 05:59 PM)
I doubt it.
The design is not viable for military at all.
what is the role for it? biggrin.gif
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lucius fox kata:
bridging vehicle for the military
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Feb 25 2013, 06:20 PM)
lucius fox kata:
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it don't look like 1.
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The best military vehicle which I think suit Malaysia the most would be CV-90.

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light weight suitable for all our terrain.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 25 2013, 05:30 PM)
The best military vehicle which I think suit Malaysia the most would be CV-90.

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light weight suitable for all our terrain.
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Can this be classified as an MBT? Description of vehicle indicates its an IFV, but the design doesn't convince me, especially with that cannon turret. Is that a 105mm?

By the way, long time no see guys. Really long time one.
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QUOTE(FlameReaper @ Feb 25 2013, 07:44 PM)
Can this be classified as an MBT? Description of vehicle indicates its an IFV, but the design doesn't convince me, especially with that cannon turret. Is that a 105mm?

By the way, long time no see guys. Really long time one.
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is a 120mm cannon turret.
I think it were around light tank and medium tank.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 25 2013, 07:19 PM)
is a 120mm cannon turret.
I think it were around light tank and medium tank.
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that'd be the CV90120 variant.

info says it's described as a light tank.

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 25 2013, 06:30 PM)
The best military vehicle which I think suit Malaysia the most would be CV-90.

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this looks so heavy you sure yinchet + tracks diameter seems too small i think sure sink in our soil...
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QUOTE(souless223 @ Feb 25 2013, 08:25 PM)
this looks so heavy you sure yinchet + tracks diameter seems too small i think sure sink in our soil...
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I'm sure.
IINM it only weight about 35tons.
about 10 tons lighter than our pendekar.
the tracks diameter can always be modified.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 25 2013, 08:28 PM)
I'm sure.
IINM it only weight about 35tons.
about 10 tons lighter than our pendekar.
the tracks diameter can always be modified.
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really? 10ton lighter than pandekar?
thats good any backlash on the armor?
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QUOTE(FlameReaper @ Feb 25 2013, 08:23 PM)
that'd be the CV90120 variant.

info says it's described as a light tank.

... those Pinoys still degil ka? dengar they already starting in-fighting icon_question.gif
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probably. no1 can be sure what happening insides.
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QUOTE(souless223 @ Feb 25 2013, 08:30 PM)
really? 10ton lighter than pandekar?
thats good any backlash on the armor?
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lighter armor, but I think it can provide better maneuvering compare to heavier MBT.

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QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ Feb 25 2013, 04:31 PM)
was wondering... can a civilian legally buy and drive a de-militarized, de-armed such armored vehicle in malaysia?  laugh.gif would be a nice option in cases of flash flood i think, especially if it got the amphibious capability...  laugh.gif
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Maybe after the Police Traffic packing a kornet as standard issues
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 25 2013, 08:19 PM)
is a 120mm cannon turret.
I think it were around light tank and medium tank.
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120mm, me thinks it is overkill
105 would be suffice,

QUOTE(FlameReaper @ Feb 25 2013, 08:23 PM)
that'd be the CV90120 variant.

info says it's described as a light tank.

... those Pinoys still degil ka? dengar they already starting in-fighting icon_question.gif
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Gado sama2 sendiri,
do us Malaysian a favour by kill each other!
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 25 2013, 08:55 PM)

120mm, me thinks it is overkill
105 would be suffice,
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They do have 105mm.
but still prefer going for bigger gun.
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They do have 105mm.
but still prefer going for bigger gun.
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"bigger is always better"
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120mm have a very huge recoil!

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