Military Thread V8, Ops Daulat
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 Dec 25 2012, 10:04 PM
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thread becoming slow this month yinchet and brother artu more updates plox
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Dec 26 2012, 12:20 PM
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I'm quite busy lately can't always online.
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Dec 26 2012, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 24 2012, 06:29 PM) HMS Malaya its for British not used to defend Malaya! Duit Malaya punya... |
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Dec 27 2012, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 7 2012, 04:28 PM) pictures are in! How come this one do not have aerial refuelling receptacle like the one they usually shown in LIMA?» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « more here: http://mymil.forums2u.com/t19p525-eurocopt...725-tudm#148180 |
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Dec 27 2012, 02:03 PM
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Because the probe will come later!
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Dec 27 2012, 02:04 PM
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Hello... Friendly Rifle lover here
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Dec 27 2012, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(piala dunia matlamat kita @ Dec 27 2012, 10:49 AM) berita terbaru pasal MMRCA 12.4 billion hanya 12+8 Hawk, kalau 18 Typhoon sudah mahu 14.x Billian, sudah terlalu mahal lah, saya tak nampak gov, mampu beli dengan 14.x billion. banyak orang akan marah gov pakai 14.x billion beli Typhoon. harga ini sudah boleh beli F35, beli 1x tak mungkin BAE bagi pasang dekat Malaysia lah, Typhoon consotium 4 negara, susah nak deal utk offset dan technologi transfer. Oman order RM12.4 Billion deal dengan eurofighter.. arab saudi katanya order 70 lebih eurofighter, blok arab sekarang ni semua pakat nak pakai eurofighter kalau malaysia dapat deal dengan BAE Systems paling kurang pun untuk buat certain part eurofighter, terutamanya finishing part bagi pak arab ni di Malaysia.. rasanya kita pun akan dapat untung juga nanti.. lagi-lagi kalau pak arab nak hantar repair eurofighter diaorang boleh gak guna jalan laut terus ke malaysia Malaysia jadi HQ Asia Pacific BAE Systems.. harap deal diaorang dengan pak arab tu, Malaysia pun dapat juga untung dia.. katanya nak bina jet perang ni di perak, kalau nak eksport ke arab rasanya tak akan ada banyak masalah kalau guna jalan laut.. minta British bawa dia punya aircraft carrier gedabak punya besar untuk bawa eurofighter yang dipasang di Malaysia eksport kepada pak arab tu Saya tengok Refale atau F18 lagi ada harapan di sini. This post has been edited by waja2000: Dec 27 2012, 04:26 PM |
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Dec 27 2012, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(Calvin789 @ Dec 27 2012, 02:04 PM) Hello... Friendly Rifle lover here hello there..but wat s friendly rifle? |
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Dec 27 2012, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(Calvin789 @ Dec 27 2012, 02:04 PM) Hello... Friendly Rifle lover here hi bro, if in OZ can ask to go to Empire shooting range hahahaif in Malaysia maybe can go for pistol range QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 27 2012, 04:24 PM) 12.4 billion hanya 12+8 Hawk, kalau 18 Typhoon sudah mahu 14.x Billian, sudah terlalu mahal lah, saya tak nampak gov, mampu beli dengan 14.x billion. banyak orang akan marah gov pakai 14.x billion beli Typhoon. harga ini sudah boleh beli F35, beli 1x tak mungkin BAE bagi pasang dekat Malaysia lah, Typhoon consotium 4 negara, susah nak deal utk offset dan technologi transfer. I've talked with the procurement team, actually 2 of them only la not the whole teamSaya tengok Refale atau F18 lagi ada harapan di sini. Can buy Typhoon but it will only be the one that fly as all the cost will be put together to bear that SOB! |
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Dec 27 2012, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 27 2012, 04:46 PM) Can buy Typhoon but it will only be the one that fly as all the cost will be put together to bear that SOB! thanks reply， not really understands this , can explain more a bit. also what is SOBThis post has been edited by waja2000: Dec 27 2012, 05:22 PM |
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Dec 27 2012, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 27 2012, 05:20 PM) thanks reply， not really understands this , can explain more a bit. also what is SOB hahaha Son of a B****,see Typhoon not just only expensive to buy but also expensive to maintain and operate! in order to make sure that jet fly, all other aeroplane have to be grounded to channel the money to operate typhoon! Malaysia is not like Oman or Saudi where they have money to spare! even Rafale is expensive, but the credibility and function match the price tag if compare to the typhoon! SH would be the greatest choice but only TUDM get what they want and less restriction! IIRC even OZ got their hands full with Super Hornet restriction by the US |
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Dec 27 2012, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 27 2012, 04:46 PM) hi bro, if in OZ can ask to go to Empire shooting range hahaha Im an airsofter if in Malaysia maybe can go for pistol range I've talked with the procurement team, actually 2 of them only la not the whole team Can buy Typhoon but it will only be the one that fly as all the cost will be put together to bear that SOB!  |
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Dec 27 2012, 10:25 PM
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F-35: Still on Asia’s Radar?
By Trefor Moss | 27 December 2012 Thursday Several Asian countries are interested in the American F-35 JSF. But Canada’s U-turn on buying the jet won’t encourage Asian partners to sign up any time soon. Will the program survive? http://thediplomat.com/2012/12/27/asia-eye...arily/?all=true Added on December 28, 2012, 12:15 am2013 LIMA Programme. http://navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/.../lima-2013.html This post has been edited by xtemujin: Dec 28 2012, 12:15 AM |
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Dec 28 2012, 02:35 AM
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QUOTE(piala dunia matlamat kita @ Dec 27 2012, 09:52 PM) sekurang-kurangnya industri pertahanan Malaysia kena buat semua peluru dan bom sendiri untuk atasi masalah restriction US ni. Masalah restriction US ni hanya tertakluk pada barang US, Gripen pun ada barang US jugaksaya sokong open source punya idealogi.. kalau dapat open source code penuh.. kita boleh alter sampai ke tahap kernel dia sekali dan gain full control of the system without any restriction at all. kita kena lahirkan pakar bom dan peluru berpandu pintar yang amat tepat dan dahsyat, kita yang tersendiri. Typhoon aku tak pasti, tp depa still boleh influence tuk restrict barang US dlm sesuatu aset tu! Buat bom sendiri mmg boleh buat, tetapi kalo ko letak kat Hornet ikut suka suki takde dpat kebenaran US congress ko igat apa akan jadi kat Malaysia? Tak payah cakap pasal hacking us software laa, tgk OZ cukup, hack system Hornet/Super Hornet samapi full capability, tp last2 apa pun tak jadi pasal benda tuk guna tu takde. Bila nak guna third party punya barang kene mintak kelulusan congress. Hornet tu punya sensitif, nak dispose bolt atau screw pun kene ada written document atau some sort of acknowledgement dari US tau tak? |
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Dec 28 2012, 02:43 AM
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QUOTE(piala dunia matlamat kita @ Dec 27 2012, 09:42 PM) aku ada fikir camtu, si atreyuangel ni melenting semacam je takut uni dia tak dapat projek MMRCA tu haih, aku sma uni ngan Rosmah laaa hahahha cuma takde Dr je kekeke /sekasem kalau dapat F/A 18 macam Australia ada.. siap ally lagi dengan Australia, kalau boleh sign terus deal dengan kerajaan Australia buat excercise sekali, tumpang tempat dia nak buat excercise sekali maunya indon dan china gerun wehh.. bom F/A-18 tu memang gempak sungguh. yang akan rasa paling tercabar nanti mesti jiran kita kat indon.. rasa cam tersepit sungguh je nanti.  pilihan yinchet yang minat sungguh F/A-18 ni sebenarnya bagus kalau nak psycho jiran kita. selamba je diaorang pergi buat bombing excercise guna F18 tepi highway.. kalau buat kat sini maunya terus jadi bahan politik aku melenting sama satu brand tu je, pasal aku tau cerita sebalik tabir, macam mana dah kene sepak terajang keluar as contender pon boleh masuk balik, sedang kan semua feasebility sama SWOT stadi tu dah kata liability brand tu teruk! tu pasal aku boleh conclude silap2 fleet lain tak terbang pasal nak jaga dia sorang. |
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Dec 28 2012, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(piala dunia matlamat kita @ Dec 27 2012, 09:42 PM) aku ada fikir camtu, si atreyuangel ni melenting semacam je takut uni dia tak dapat projek MMRCA tu If I want to choose a jetfighter it would definitely Gripen. kalau dapat F/A 18 macam Australia ada.. siap ally lagi dengan Australia, kalau boleh sign terus deal dengan kerajaan Australia buat excercise sekali, tumpang tempat dia nak buat excercise sekali maunya indon dan china gerun wehh.. bom F/A-18 tu memang gempak sungguh. yang akan rasa paling tercabar nanti mesti jiran kita kat indon.. rasa cam tersepit sungguh je nanti. pilihan yinchet yang minat sungguh F/A-18 ni sebenarnya bagus kalau nak psycho jiran kita. selamba je diaorang pergi buat bombing excercise guna F18 tepi highway.. kalau buat kat sini maunya terus jadi bahan politik Malahan ia adalah paling murah dari segi operation cost. lebih murah daripada F-16    ini fuel consumption.  sekarang indonesia order banyak f-16. so these have to be look at. Kalau pasal US part on gripen ia telah dikurangkan. favor Malaysia to buy F-18SH and lease 18Gripen. This post has been edited by yinchet: Dec 28 2012, 11:40 AM |
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Dec 28 2012, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 28 2012, 11:36 AM) If I want to choose a jetfighter it would definitely Gripen. why not, but I remember the team wanted only the NG version!Malahan ia adalah paling murah dari segi operation cost. lebih murah daripada F-16 ini fuel consumption. sekarang indonesia order banyak f-16. so these have to be look at. Kalau pasal US part on gripen ia telah dikurangkan. favor Malaysia to buy F-18SH and lease 18Gripen. since the deliver timeline would be similar! |
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Dec 28 2012, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 28 2012, 12:38 PM) why not, but I remember the team wanted only the NG version! I wont surprise if the whole MMRCA deals worth around USD3bil deals.since the deliver timeline would be similar! it would be like SH + MKM trade in with migs + AEW&C. MKM deals would be seeing MIKA + topsightI + Brahmos. Would be a bonus if we went towards leasing gripen. - most probably with commitment on buying gripen ng in its. y usd3bil? Army gets USD3bil on av8 Navy gets USD3bil on SGPV it would be logical if we see USD3bil for MMRCA. |
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Dec 28 2012, 05:44 PM
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Dec 28 2012, 05:47 PM
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budget wise, should just get SH or MKM.
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