Hey can I ask at how can I achieve straight A+ for SPM? I have SPM next year, and I'm taking 9 subjects. Science Stream student. I want 9A+ so bad because I want to leave high school with a bang and make myself proud. I got bad results for my end year exam this year... only 6As3Cs. I got C in BM, Physics and Add Maths. I always got C in those 3 subjects it is annoying. so pointers involving physics add maths and bm would definitely help! I suck at them terribly!!! I've never improved from a C....

So I'm wondering on how can I achieve 9A+ for SPM next year ehh ? I want to go study at overseas. Also tell me at how should I study each subject ? Especially physics, add maths and BM.

THANK YOU.

be realistic about your ability....if you can only manage 6a and 3b in form 4, you are very unlikely to get all a+ in the spm....

getting results like that is NOT dependent on 'working hard'.....but on the innate ability and intelligence of the person.....if you haven't been a top straight a student all the way, it's not going to happen.....

realistically, aim for all a's......combination of a+,a and a-.....

Aww, it's possible! You still have one year, DON'T THINK JUST STUDY DAMNIT! Keep doing exercise for your addmaths, KNOW THE SPM FORMAT that is really really important, buy the past year and just keep spamming it. If you really don't understand like me, get a personal tutor and ask him to guide you through a few lessons. It's not that hard as long as your not CLUELESS. Physics sucks, I sucked at calculations but in spm u'd see it actually involves a lot more theories than calculations. A- wouldn't be a problem. As for BM, memorise karangans....... I'm not kidding, memorise karangans and you'll eventually get it. For the past year I've been getting Bs for my BM, my karangans was terrible though, I really thought I was hopeless but with my last strength I memorised about 10karangans and by the start of the paper I could write down 3 without even thinking...except that the topics I memorised didn't come out lol I was devastated and felt as if i might give up but I decided I couldn't screw up my last chance and you know what? It was actually not that bad once I started

been there seen it all.....

how much you wanna bet?.....

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Added on December 3, 2012, 6:00 pmamazing.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Dec 3 2012, 06:00 PM

Simple.

Buy yourself these items

1. Revision textbook and make sure you read it regularly.
2. Questions and answers kit and make sure you do the questions regularly.
3. Real past year questions with answers and make sure you do the questions regularly.

For BM and English, go read up some Karangan Contoh and those Sample Essays.

As simple as 1, 2, 3 without the need to go to tuition centres. I don't buy the idea of going to tuition centres.

Haha no seriously!! You just need the right mind set, "IT'S POSSIBLE BUT ONLY WITH EFFORT!" If you think "IT'S POSSIBLE, SPM DAMN EASY!" Then for sure will die lah, but since assymessy can get 6A for finals it isn't impossible laaa

And yeah, I thought I was amazing too, until I read the tajuk during spm ahahahha!

This post has been edited by Scoobiechen: Dec 3 2012, 07:00 PM

BM, Karangan, karangan contoh isn't the best I think .. Instead , memorise those ayat2 bombastik , helped me a lot ..

Lost my links to the sites which have a lot of those sentences .. good luck in finding

this... is how our education has become..... memorizing.....

i fear for the generations to come...

working really hard probably will push the person a lil more over the top, unless he/she has been lazy from the start. I agree there's a capping, and knowing your limitations is really important too. I wouldn't say it's entirely impossible for TS to get 9A+ but hmm, hard work, hard work, and some luck to be honest. (SPM is like that)

i found those who're really good in memorizing to do really well till form 3, and for some reason a lot of them crash and burn when they enter form 4-5. memorizing is an essential skill, but not the most important. I prefer to understand and utilize my knowledge. but i guess it's how the education system is now in Malaysia no? Memorize these things, spit it out in exams and presto! instant click on the 'empty recycling bin' button.

omg. karangan also become memorization only. smh.

It's true, memorising isn't everything, but will it improve your bm? yes it will. Do you still need to use your brain after memorising? Yes you do How else would you suggest to improve your language I'd really like to know. Tution? Tuition? or maybe more tuition? perhaps doing more latihan?

I found that memorising essays helped my in my way of structuring sentences, it'd really did but perhaps it's varies for some people. Just giving my two cents since someone asked

This post has been edited by Scoobiechen: Dec 3 2012, 08:06 PM

Spm is just about memorizing.. do a lot of past years questions i guarentee you, you'll answer them easily

The piece of advice you gave was really bad. You may memorize a few examples of essays. However, once you have forgotten some parts of it, you will panic cause the flow won't be there and you can't fix it with your own sentences. The sample essay may very well be far ahead of your mastery. Not to mention, the essay questions that come out may be totally different from what you have memorized.

To improve your BM, you have to read a lot of newspapers, malay newspaper in fact, and learn up all the basics tatabahasa and peribahasa. The basics will go a long way.

Like what the others say, our education system has to fail to educate. Instead, it has turned to a memorizing system. When you were young, yes, memorizing works very well but not when you are at this stage of your life. It is all about understanding now. Are you expecting to get a job in the future because you can memorize well? No! Also, because of the need to memorize instead of to understand, it has degraded your critical thinking skill.

To TS, you should try to make an effort to make the most out of your last year in high school and not just end it with a brief moment of glory. People will forget about you once they have sat for their SPM. There are more important things in life than to get straight A+ in SPM.

WHOAA.... aren't you being pessimistic instead of realistic ?

Well I actually scored 3A+3A3C+ for my end years. My senior who used to got 6As3B2C for his finals scored 11A+ for SPM. It's just that my weaknesses lies on Physics Add Maths and BM.

Thanks for the tips everyone... I'll try real hard of course because it is important for me.

I think he is trying to pose you a challenge.
If you so think he is wrong, prove it to him.

I hate being underestimated, I always make sure people eat their own mouths whenever they underestimate me.

it's about setting realistic expectations, so one does not get disappointed and disillusioned.....

you can try to psyche yourself up, but it has to be realistic....

of course there are examples of great leaps in performances before, but they are exceptions rather than the norm....

and over confidence is one sure way to falter....especially misguided ones....

note that i do NOT know the ts in any way, and my comments and recommendation are generic, from many years of experience with pubic exams and how people perform......95% of top results come from consistent top students....surprises do happen, but rarely.....

I didn't ask him to memorise before the exam itself did I? I was simply giving him an example of how I did. I stated there how I panicked when I saw the topics didn't come out.

What he was asking was how to score well in spm, not in life. I never told him that memorising could get him through life but it will help get him through spm which is what he asked for. And yeah thousands of people asked me to read newspapers and memorise karangans too but even if you have the patience to read a whole newspaper of words you don't understand after reading it'll just slip from your mind again if you don't keep it up. A balance of both is needed.

I think you guys misunderstood me when i gave that piece of advice, i simply stated memorising would be helpful. i never implied that he shouldnt take the time to understand things. and I agree that spm results aren't everything but it is still essential.

This feels like an how EQ is better than IQ debate haha but honestly you won't make it anywhere in life without both of them.

Oh and knowing the limits to your own abilities is fine, but setting goals that are higher for yourself, that pushes yourself to strive for success often results better than worse. For example, if you keep saying, "oh a B for this subject is enough for me, I know my own abilities and I know an A is rather impossible" how are you ever going to have the confidence to improve yourself? And yeah, over confidence kills that's why I said "IT'S POSSIBLE BUT WITH EFFORT!"

Oh but it seems I have read assymessy's post wrongly, I thought its A instead of A+ haha but I'd still say go for just! whether you achieve your goal or not, it is important to know that you've made your effort and that's enough anyway good luckk and have a nice day everyone

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Added on December 3, 2012, 9:08 pmWow wow haha calm down nothing is impossible just study hard and stop surfing the web haha! They always say take in what you think is right, ponder on those you think is wrong, after all what have you to lose by listening and thinking? Keke

This post has been edited by Scoobiechen: Dec 3 2012, 09:11 PM

no point working hard just to impress others. you'll only make your life miserable. just work hard. for yourself and your future.

funny enough, my results weren't so consistent ;p i mean there are many different 'stages' in my study life (primary to college). Totally messed up UPSR but heck, did quite alright after that. Different people peak at different stages, and environmental factors do come in to play regardless of your biological make up.

coming back to TS's question, 3A+3A3C+ (I'm assuming C+ is round about the 60s?) ain't that bad. 9A is really in reach. 9A+ well... no one knows. for physics and add maths, just get a grasp of the concept and try to do as many questions as possible. Know how to use the formulas, know how to twist and turn your lil noggin' too. I can't help you with BM. i'm just terrible at that subject, even now. =P

so did you get straight 1a?.....

note that the old 1a is now split into a and a+.....so even people who got all 1a in the past may not be all a+....it could be all a, or a mixture of a and a+.....

Nope, I want to work hard to create a better future for myself of course. I want to start anew. Aspiring Pharmacist/Biochemist. and I'll grab every chances and do my utmost performance for SPM.

I'm a 2013 SPM Candidate too .

I do okay in A.M and Phy , I don't mind helping you . We sort of share the same goal .

All the best !

But a lot of Form 4-5 subjects still needs a lot of memorizing,like Sejarah,Moral,even Bio. And some chapters of chemistry. So a good memory is still needed in upper secondary.

Ah this makes me feel a bit sad. I have just finished my SPM and I think it's kinda right,we all go our own ways after this. And scoobiechen did gave a bit of wrong advice about memorizing essays,I think that's the wrong strategy for writing essays,it should be based on our imagination,and every topic that come out can be different,but memorizing in Form 4-5 is still applied a lot,especially in Sejarah,Moral,and Bio.

I think i got 2 A2s. wasn't a straight A1 though. never managed to get A1 for my BM and moral.

That's great. all the best, do your best =) P/s i hate biochemistry. terrible subject. essential though.

+1+1
the first line.... is at the top of my mind now.... memorizing... will only get u pass exams.... when u come up into tertiary? i don't know how he will cope.


at TS and those that gave ****ing advice on memorizing essays... THAT IS TOTALLY WRONG!!!!!.... READ AND UNDERSTAND AND USE THE LANGUAGE PLEASE..... the only real way one will improve.. I'm in tertiary final year now, and it's shocking to see my juniors year by year becoming more like..... photostat machines....

see what i mean?.....

now think back to those who did get straight 1a, and what sort of students they were in school.....

May I know where you live? In which state of course?

Well, kids were taught to memorize essays for UPSR, no surprise there. I'm surprised why people are still doing so for SPM. If it's memorizing facts/key points I'm fine with that. Churning out the whole essay word by word is probably too much.

I think back in my year it's a lil odd. Those who were expected to get full A1s didn't, mostly due to one subject - EST, moral. There are a few 'unexpected' full A1s though. Personally think that there are some luck in these sort of govn examinations for some reasons. Bias or not, results vary from person to person even if you got marked an A1 for your MCQs. But I was expecting 1 A2 for my BM. I came out thinking: "oh nuts, I have no idea what did I just wrote for that essay". Terrible at BM.

Then again I understand what you're trying to say. Tops will remain at top normally because of their biological make up (IQ/EQ), study methods and hard work of course. I've not seen mediocre/average students suddenly bursting forth and getting full A1s in the final exams though.

I agree the system now is much harder with A+ A and A-. And this puts a lot more stress onto students. A word of advice for future SPM students: don't study for the sake of that A+, study for the sake of knowledge.

Take the most exercise out for your exam.

Study for the exam, memorise the answer, not the theory.

I got full A (combi of various As) in SPM 2010, however, shit like result in Form 4.

In my opinion, you have to study smart, memorizing of course is required, but also add in logic and understanding. So you can tackle any question easily even its twisted.

And seriously, hafal mati is useless, it perhaps helped you in SPM and wait till you in tertiary and you know what I meant. Try refer Singapore O-level essays, and you know its a big difference compared to SPM, all their questions requires mind thinking and own opinion, so memorizing is totally useless.

Getting straight A in SPM is not hard, even you have bad result in form 4, it happens to me. Im shocked that SPM have SUCH low standard, i prepared 3months before SPM and yes, I scored all A, (SPM 2010). Honestly, SPM is nothing compared to O-levels...

ts is talking about all a+.....

did you all get that?.....

look back at what i advised him....

aim for straight as.....which is achievable....like you two....

be realistic...

if ur results sucked so bad, might as well just focus on both mathematics subjects and your sciences and english. the rest just pass la. at least u still have hope of being a doctor in malaysia

Ahh, I'm sorry if you guys thought my advice was bad, perhaps different people have different ways of learning. But at least now we all know that the community here is very dedicated and out there for your best intentions. Happy day ppl

I get C for every science subjects while I'm in form 4 too, and this year, I fighted and I get A or A+ for my three subjects in my Pra. My teachers even said I am able to get A+ in SPM! Nothing is impossible. Remember revise everything you have learn. Be serious and get the point really carefully. Then you will know A+ might be a piece of cake for you. One of my friend gets 8A+ and she's not the top five in her class. God bless you.

This post has been edited by Echo95: Dec 4 2012, 07:22 PM

I dont know about other places, but when i was in school, it's kind of pretty common. (I was really bad with chemistry and biology - got 40s for chem in final exam in form 4 and 50s in biology. but innately good with physics, add math, numbers and equation) so, what i did was i didnt study at all in form 5 what i was good at. never study add math and physics only go to class - though sometimes i did for fun teaching friends, just spend the whole year studying things i'm not good at. and there wasnt A+ during my time, but yeah I got straight 12 1As. but then I've kind of f***ed my life a little after SPM - choosing the wrong course that's not in line with my interest and innate capability (being overconfident and under societal pressure).

So, the take of the story is, study hard bro, know yourself, interest and capability, always have in mind what you're talented at and have a goal in mind what kind of life you want after school. And spend the rest of the year taking down that b**** SPM. Doesnt matter if you dont get perfect result (I got perfect result since a kid, i even skipped a year in primary school), you'll always be you. Use SPM results as a chance to line your interest and passion up.But I'm not telling you to take SPM lightly, heck, it's a good time to practice and build your persistence and hardworking skill. So, give your best, use this as a chance to develop a better you but have in mind on what you want to achieve and do in life. Dont get really stucked and happy with your SPM level too much like I did. Best of luck!

it's really just the first step of something bigger =) Uni exams are way stressful than SPM. And work life is even more. And really, just because you got straight A, so what? (sorry i should clarify i'm not making a statement pointing to you but it being a general statement, i need to add in this statement to clarify to avoid misunderstandings ;p cheerios) doesn't mean you should stop there. I've seen lots of people reminiscing about their success that they failed in the present. haha I agree with you, to be honest, SPM is sort of a joke, but don't take it lightly =) it's to prepare you for something bigger.

What course did u wrongly take?

So it's possible that one can get too relaxed if their SPM results is very good?

Seriously SPM is nothing haha...u can't attend uni with a SPM cert. But again, start working hard from SPM level and work your way up. Good luck TS.

I've already posted some part of my story

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2615184

or here

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2615182

not a big fan of Biochemistry and memorizing dry fact, lack of mathematics, physics and quantitative approach in Medicine, resentment of unintentionally rejected Petronas scholarship to do A-Level at KTJ (by seeing KTJ track record, u can assume that means a top university after my a-level), and flying and studying under parental pressure was all lead to my emotional ride for few years. Oh yeah, adding my uni here suck ass, other than studying Medicine it's hardly opening options for my future not to add, the pressure of scholarship contract that dont want to continue, instead breach my contract (and I need to pay) if I want to change course. Those are the reasons. And another was resentment of afraid paying RM9000 for preparation program in INTEC, when I decided to dropout back then and go for KTJ. I was 17 years old, and I felt overwhelmed and alone - didnt know who I wanted to ask for help (not really, but things got worse because I'm the kind of a lone ranger guy, doing stuff on my own - so it was pretty hard to seek for help). For a not so courageous lone ranger 17 years old, I was really afraid where will I get RM9k to pay back to JPA, though looking retrospect, dammit, what a stupid kid I was. No point at all having multiple choices in life if you dont have courage to take it. I can pay that money from scholarship money that I have right away (though couple of times I planned to scam the officer and making some medical problem stuff saying that I dont suit here - I planned all those and as I've never seen outside world, sure things didnt work out). I hope I know this forum earlier. Really bad this is the second day I know this forum and all of these things I'm talking about, happened 4 years ago.

But I cannot leave myself blameless, as back then, I was so happy with my school (it was a great place to learn - co-curicullar activities are awesome and the list just goes on, many smart kids and stuff - hey it's not private school but govt. boarding school, but they lack of career counseling for god sake!) that I didnt even think of ending it and I didnt have any sense of direction when I was in school other than "I need to get perfect result and outdo all of my friend here". The only thing I knew was, hey, "I'm talented at Math and these Physics things since I was a kid. Equations are beautiful, learning history is fun fantasizing about what happened, and look, though I was bad at those Bio and Chem at the first place, with my willpower, I can take them down too. I can be anything" - without actually been thinking what I want to end up as a adult human being. And that's where external agents come and trying to influence my life like Illuminati.

Some of other friends who were not as good in school, get things lined up earlier for them, now they're doing better and great at uni than me.

But then those are now history. My experience. Something we can learn from. Something we can gain from. Life can go in many different ways for us. I hope it can go in a different way again for me, but surely I hope it will be in a good way this time.

Sorry for bringing negative vibe and energy sucking story here, but you know, just to give you kids clearer picture on how things can change. I know our thinking tends to be limited to our environment .So, OP and all other SPM kids around, I hope u guys can get some moral take from my story here.

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Added on December 6, 2012, 4:41 amYes I do agree, and to be honest, seems like I was one of them (and I think now, too) too - I'm trying my best control my guilt and resentment but, sometimes hard to control your thought process. Especially when damage is done, theres a fresh scar and that's the one that kind of change your life path. Limbic system usually win over frontal cortex anyway. Have a clear sense and picture in mind and use SPM to develop the masochism (dont take me wrong) and workaholic side of you is better. Passion what makes you successful in life, not what your exam results paper say, but then, good exam result is an indication that u can work hard.

Though on my side, I dont really find exam in uni is stressful (maybe because I did have way more stressful experience), but nonetheless it's more important if you want to make a mark in the world, given that you're in the right place.

This post has been edited by hanrisian: Dec 6 2012, 08:11 AM

TS, 6a and 3c is quite decent and if you are willing to work extra hard straight A+ is definitely in hand trust me,
don't listen to what other idiots saying things like you cant get it, u still have ONE WHOLE YEAR, it's definitely enough for you to work hard and get it, tonnes of my friends who failed addmaths with 1 digit marks 1 digit! and fail physics managed to score A+ after paying full attention at classes, tuitions, and doing exercises, the questions are basically nearly the same all the time, just get familiar to it and u will definitely score well
TIPS
-Physics
u need to really take ur time, cool down ur mind, then try to understand it, then learn how to answer the questions correctly, try to score full marks in paper 3, it's like free marks for u.
-Addmaths
u just need to do more exercise for this and understand it, this is just exercise.
-BM
u need to go tuition for this, u need a really good tuition teacher to guide u on this, try going for small group tuitions, try tackling komsas and novel questions and get high marks for it.

In conclusion, think positive and work hard if you really want it, SPM is really not that hard actually
I might have been even worse than u, but after a whole year hard work during form 5, im pretty confident with my results

just to give u confidence, check out my results
for last year(year end) => this year(trials)
BAHASA INGGERIS 88 A => 85 A
BIOLOGI 57 C => 87 A
BAHASA MELAYU 58 B => 82 A
FIZIK 68 B => 88 A
KIMIA 61 C+ => 84 A
MATEMATIK 90 A+ => 100 A+
MATEMATIK TAMBAHAN 78 A- => 95 A+
PENDIDIKAN MORAL 87 A => 86 A
SEJARAH 70 B+ => 93 A+

well i was very lazy last year and didnt study much, but everything is possible with great effort and determination, study smart, ask for advices from teachers and top students, ask specific questions instead of like asking for tips in studying, lastly, be confident and positive, spm is easy.
PS: just ignore what lineuu says, he is most probably a person with low self-esteem and only managed to score straight As and is trying to demoralize u, trust me, if u studied correctly and consistantly, you will know you will score well when you see the question papers, when you believe you will score well and prepared well, when you enter the exam hall the answers will come out of your brain automatically, hehe.
All the best!!
btw another tip is, start during your school holidays, dont waste every second of your life, i regretted during last year's november and studied, managed to catch up well. Plan you time wisely

you will no doubt tell us of your result, in march when it is released, and it will be straight a+ for all 9 subjects.....

we will see.....

thank you everyone who's giving me advices! I've started my studies already! Straight A+ here I come!!!

Can you share with me a curiosity that I have. With getting 9A+ for SPM how do you get to go overseas to study? Through scholarship I assume? (parents or external?)

Moral is the most easiest subject to get A+ provided you know the technique and can read and write, but I wonder why ...

Let's put it this way if you are able to have that mindset of scoring straight A's, you WILL have a bright future. Why? because you are raising the bar for your own BUT if you doubt yourself at first whether you are able to do it i can assure you, YOU WONT make it.

Your brain is like a bank. Just that your brain has a really Favorable package where by The more Negative thoughts you put into your mind of yours It generates MORE negative thoughts because of it's HIGH interest rate!

One thing we malaysians like to do is to gain something we need NOW. Meaning Tips and such. Why would you invest your Time and Money on Tips instead of a long term benefit? If i'm giving you money you see RM50 and RM100 what would you do? you would either take the bigger value or even both. Correct me if im wrong. Why not invest in things like Personal development or knowledge gaining courses? don't you think it's a beneficial to you for a long run?

Again lets not go far here, I'm just here to encourage you to continue to what you believe in and you're doing fine as long as you have the right mindset for it

Passing a paper or getting straight A's is important. No doubt to it, that is what gets us a good job and a good pay. Whether we are able to sustain a good performance? hmm not likely unless you have the right mentality.

Certificate can only get you through entry level of a job. Pay rise and a good future is not going to happen just because of your certificate but with your Personal Skills and effort.

Good luck to you my friend

So u are quite confident u can get straight 9A+ in ur SPM?Did u depend on tips for ur trials or not? Because if u took a lot of tips,it's not counted as an improvement. I agree with you though,determination,motivation and discipline is important. It doesn't mean that if u have been an average student this year,u can't get good results the following year. It just depends whether u willing to work hard for it,and continue going up. To TS,it's good to have that mindset already. Don't let others bring you down,and work hard for ur goal

Well said, well said.

Oh yea,good source of motivation. Then make them eat their words.Take it as a motivation. But the results that u are aiming for is just for your own good,and not to please others. So work hard for yourself.

Since TS has opened this thread,it means that he's really serious in getting 9A+,or has the goal to get 9A+. That's very good. How many students have u seen who has this mindset? TS doesn't need someone to tell him to 'be realistic,u can never make it,u will always be the same etc etc'. Yes we must be realistic of our capabilities. But there's nothing wrong in aiming very high,yes if one doesn't get the results he was aiming for,they might feel disappointed. Like how TS felt with his end-term results. But see what has it done him? It had made him feel more motivated,more strength to achieve his goal. You come back stronger if u fall.

And yes indeed,ur comments are generic. Very. You admit that yourself.

Just give your best in preparations, and do your best in exams. no regrets if that happens.

Again, I think people are too hyped out about getting straight A+s. It's a bonus for me if I do get it after all my hard work. if not, then what can I do? Like i said, there's luck involved in SPM. I see people getting denied from straight A1s back during my time by a single subject, in my year - EST. And yes they are the creme de la creme (in my city).

So really, don't get carried away by the A+,A-,As. To be honest, back when I was studying for SPM I didn't care much about A1s or 2s. Of course if I do get straight A1s that's a gift for me. I really enjoyed my studies (not the language, moral and history part).

I know it's stressful. Many out there are pressured to get straight A+s nowadays, be it pressure from parents or from themselves. But do remember why are you doing all these. Do it for the knowledge, and if the grades come in good, it's a given.

I feel so sad for the wee ones these days. I see my lil cousins getting cooped up in tuition centres and other extra curriculum activities that they get so tired. Schools asking primary 1s to shout out slogans 'I can get straight As in UPSR'; and parents putting unrealistic expectations into their children to fulfill their own dreams.

Don't get limeuu wrong. He does have a point. I once were like you all highly motivated and all. And it's a good thing to be honest. But we all have our limits somewhere. know where your limit is. it's good that you're setting your goals real high, but there's a risk of disappointment too for that. Disappointments can scar your mind.


Know your weaknesses, work around your weaknesses, and find study methods that work for you. 'Be realistic' doesn't equal 'you can't do it'.

we're just speaking out of our experiences. i've been through all that, highs, lows, crash and burns, and we just want to share our knowledge.

Study smart, know what works for you, know what's the REACHABLE yet satisfying goal, keep calm during exam, EXERCISE and keep your body, mind and soul well (eat well, mingle with friends, pray and be close to God, have some fun hey! secondary school was really a fun time for me), and tackle each question one at a time. Screwed up some papers? not to worry, forget it and head on.


all the best TS. God bless.

This post has been edited by onelove89: Dec 7 2012, 05:50 PM

Thanks for the piece of advice!
I am a 2013 SPM candidate too.
BTW, how hard is SPM, really?
How much time do i need to spend to really get straight As in SPM?
My mum always advice me that my senior which never go out for social activities get straight 10A, (not all A+) in SPM 2012.
Do I need to sacrifice to do so?
I start to serious in my studies this year, can say this short term Mac holiday. Will I able to achieve my dream? (10 straight As)

This is my studying schedule:
4-5 hours of revision time. (Sometimes get distracted by whatsapp)
2-4 hours of homework time.
6 hours of sleep during schooling day, 8 hours of sleep during holidays.
Average tuition time per day: 2 hours
Other time: 2-4 hours wasted on watering plants, eating, reading newspaper, surfing the web with phone.
I do not like to play games, but love gadget and surf facebook as other as well.
I was able to get 1a 3a- 1b 2b+ 2c 1c+

I am afraid i won't be able to get straight As in SPM and disappoint my family as my family look up to me.
Senior who get straight As please provide some advice.
EDIT 1: I was able to get 2a+ 4a 2b+ 1b 1c in my first term exam this year. I am still not satisfy with my result as the question are way too easy.

This post has been edited by darrenliew96: Mar 30 2013, 10:57 PM

now that the spm results are out, and someone dug up this thread.....will the protagonists in this thread update us on their actual results?.....

Hey !
I would like to share my experience with you.
When I was in form 1-3 I was a consistent high scorer in my school. Always top on the school and atuff.
Then Back in form4 I seriously screwed up my studies alot as I spend most of my school time with cocurricuar activities, skipping class cos I was involved with lots of activities n competition, became president for a popular society in my school, i hold a high level post in district level that requires lots of commitment,
so yeah I never understand a thing when I was in class and tuition cause I was too tired to concentrate. Most of my peers was shock with my results.
I really hated science subjects.
My add maths mark was never more than 10 during form4, my physics n xhemistry was around C or B-. And biology was my worst subject

Then in form5 I was I know I must really worked hard to get straight A's, hence I reduced the amount of time I spend on activities. but i am still presiden for some clubs
Since my form4 basic is weak, I had to do lots of catching up. So don't be shy to ask your friends if you don't understand even the easiest stuff. Mix around with those studying type of people. And ask them for help. True friends wont look down if you dont understand the simplest thing. Pay attention in classes. Go for those intensive classes if you think you need it as it can help you. around 2 months before spm I did lots of trials paper and it seriously help. In form5 for my add maths, I'm starting to get marks around the range of B-A . Its a pretty incredible achievement from me since I never got more than 10 bqck in form 4. And the actual spm I got an A+ for add maths as the paper can be considered as easy compare to the ones set by my school.

And end up I managed to get straight A's for spm. (5A+ 2A and 2A-)

So yeah, its not impossible for you to get straight A's for spm if you start studying now.

Wow, looks like you did a ton of sacrifice there..
But it well worth it! Thanks for the moral support! It help me to relax me a bit.
Well, hard work pays! Better get serious in my work now!

This post has been edited by darrenliew96: Mar 30 2013, 11:39 PM

I sometimes wonder what would my results be if I had studied hard since form 4 it self, there might be possibility of me achieving straight A+.
Well atleast, I enjoyed my high school life and had the opportunity to do stuffs that others students can't do.

Anyways all the best for your spm ,
The key of the future lies in your hand

Well, I think the one of the protagonists here scored full A+ as he/she had gotten the Kpm bursary.

Do more exercises
For BM and BI, if you're weak in paper2, you have to do more exercises, for paper1, you can try to memorise some amazing phrases so that u can fit them into your essays to raise ur score
For Physics, you need to understand the concept. If you don't, try and ask your friends and teachers. After understanding, you do more exercises.
The same go with Add.math. Practice makes perfect. If you do more exercise, you can come with many types of question. If you don't know how to solve, don't give up. ask ur friends and teachers.

And you can download all those past years papers and do it. Get some ideas on what will be coming out and which questions or topics are repeated over the years. You can do analysis and find out your weakness.

All the best for you.

so? what results u got?

Quite hard, it depends , but if you are in a good school like SMJK Jit Sin, 6A3B is a guarantee straight A since their education standard is very high, even if you get 9 B in Jit Sin, you probably get 9A+ in SPM

Answering technique are the best hope, you can get many marks even if your answer is short and simple, physic and add maths need to do exercise. In form 4, I nvr pass add maths, even get 4 marks only in UK2, but I go a tuition center that gives me exercise vigourously, 150 add paper 1 question in 1.5 hrs, now my add aths improve to 73 marks

study study study smart. work work work smart

I don't know if that's such a good idea. He's been advising people in this forum for like 5-6 years already.

do you study fo 9A+? if that is true, i feel so sad for you

I had an underdog classmate who used to feel truly like you do, and then she realized how sadistic she was.

feeling like i do and realise she was sadisitic? may i know the reason?

I see nothing wrong in studying for 9A+ if it makes you feel you'd really accomplished something during your secondary school and can feel proud of yourself.

Better to study for 9A+ than not to study for 9A+ I say.

It has little correlation with success in the real world though. After many years here at EE and now moving on the job market, it seems that people are willing to hire 2.7 cgpa graduate. You don't need to speak good English for most jobs, Malay or Chinese will do. You don't need to perform well in interviews. Interviewer can ask A and you answer B also they will think you're smart. You don't need to look smart or neat either. Getting those coveted scholarship also didn't guarantee people their dream jobs. So I think sometimes people are too hard on themselves over things that don't matter much.

You are probably right on the REAL success in the real world. Even so, there is a sharp distinction between getting hired and success perceived in the real world, unless one insists to define getting hired is a sense of "small" achievement.

So you really think sometimes SUCCESS people are too hard on themselves over THINGS that don't matter much. What kind of things are that THINGS that don't matter much? Do mean getting hired or getting 10A+? As well as don't matter relatively to "WHO"?

if you really enjoy studying, 9A+ will come to you. instead ts is more concentrated on the results. we should aim to attain knowledge not methods to score 9A+. if this is the case, we are no different from a robot

Knowledge can be found in many places. As long as one commits to learn the knowledge, it isn't so difficult. However, applying the knowledge practically & effectively using creative & innovative methods in a meaningful way is generally easier said than done. If the professionals believe so, you probably won't be seeing qualified DDPP (Dentists/Doctors/Pharmacists/Psychologists), trained Lawyers or certified Engineers.

I agree with how we should not focus on methods to score 9A+, but aim to attain knowledge. Sadly, one cannot love something if they don't even know it. A good portion of Gen Ys only open their text books near the exams, or rather not open them at all. They don't strive for A+ or whatever in SPM, they only want to pass. While those who do strive for 9A+ will do occasional revision, and bit by bit, be instilled with the love for knowledge. So yea, I think it would be reasonable to say that for most of the Gen Ys nowadays, you have to have a goal of achieving something before you would actually start reading, and from reading build up a love of knowledge and start to enjoy the process.

10A+ might not be important in the real world , but 10A+ ( which is not an easy task as people would expect ) requires determination , willingness to sacrifice , and ability to cope with immense pressure and stress which I think would prove to be useful in the future .

and you believe getting 9A+ is a process in learning how to apply our knowledge?

That's a good question! It's the W.I.S.E combination of Right Attitude, Right Practice, and Right Understanding. Have you got them right from the beginning?

the point is have ts got it right. i dun think ts is applying what you are telling to tell.

I don't know. If you truly feel sad for TS, better summon assymessy to clarify.

What's with the posts above arguing whether or not to study for 9A+? Of course you should study for 9A+ rather than not study for 9A+, how stupid is that? One should always aim to achieve the best and work hard.

UNDERSTANDING VS MEMORY


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understand it for god sake.

finally someone with a point.

I love learning new things, especially the sciences. But due to time constraints and since due to the nature of SPM, and the competition is getting tougher I have no other choice but to study hard to get the best results so that I would be accepted into tertiary education later on.

Sambil menyelam, minum air as I am studying right now for SPM why not just aim for the best of results ? It is always better than aiming for nothing.

Don't take me wrong, I do love learning new stuffs especially Chemistry, Foreign Languages and the wonders of Physics. Contemplating to buy A-Levels Chemistry or introduction to Pharmaceuticals book later on. Actually planning to major in Pharmacy while living in Japan. When I learn, I always make sure I understand. But right now due to the competitive nature of this world, I have to hold that back for a moment and study for the sake of SPM. Dare I say I am disappointed that most teachers are aiming to teach just for the sake of passing the exam with A+ rather than the joys of learning, but what to do since I have to deal with this until SPM is over.

great to hear that. i sincerely wishes you all the best for your future endeavors. road ahead will be more challenging. embrace knowledge and success will come to you in a way you will never expect.

Thank you very much!

I don't mean this in a bad way but some people here are not able to separate hardwork, aiming high and being motivated from scoring 9A+ in exams. Which is basically the point me and some others are making.

One must have a very good reason to spend time studying for 9A+ over doing something else. The 9A+ must be an achieve that opens a path to something else the person already wants and foresees. It should also be backed by a genuine interest in academics and.

They already have 16 years to judge how well they fare in exams. It's not the time to hope for luck. It's nice to hear motivational stuff, after all, motivational speakers earn huge bucks. But that sweetness is temporary. Getting all worked up and aiming too high only leads to unmet expectation. Suffering from a string a 'failures' for having set the bar too high is very detrimental for a person in the long run. The same achievements could have been 'successes' if the bar was lower.

I think we know this situation well because we came from the era when everyone was rushing to get the most As in Malaysia. Remember Nur Amalina's feat? I was a product of that era and scored 15As. I later realized that a string of As means nothing compared to all the other experiences I enjoyed in college. I didn't go on to score 4.0 in college. Never tried to. There was a huge exciting world outside my books. I wished I had spent more time doing meaningful stuff like social work instead of devoting myself to book in secondary school.

I wrote this a while back. Have a read if you've got some time. This is a tiny slice of the world from my viewpoint so feel free to disagree.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=68&t=1535407

This post has been edited by mumeichan: Oct 19 2013, 05:41 PM

Wow, nice thinking. I study only the subjects I enjoy, but I would study other subjects if the teacher is good at explaining it and make it interesting. I kinda hate chemistry in form 4 but this yr I found a tuition teacher who make chemistry interesting, now my chemistry is on par with classmates who once mock me for getting low in chemistry. I belive interest and mentor would be the largest contributer to success from my view.

I belive in the happiness of learning not the happiness of getting good result, I m smart but I generally won't study unless I like to, I m comfortable with this kind of life than my peers that study non-stop tothe point that they have no life and fun. They can't get it why I have no pressure and I get good result in certain subjects(though not as good as them) without studying. For them, it like not doing anything but achieved almost as much as them

So what clamp_wl was trying to motivate you is that, if you study for 9A+ with the right attitude, it can bring out the best in you... and we all are happy to hear that! All the BEST to you!

Im a SPM 2013 candidate too (*high five!!!)

I had gotten desirable result in my trials:1A+,7A,1A-

I wish to get good result because it may be the only thing that I could be proud of.I am not excellent in other aspects such as sports and video games.Also,I wish to get scholarship to study college then study at Singapore.I am not born with a silver spoon like my friends so I really need to work harder than them to have a better future.I would like to share some LAST MINUTE STUDY way that I have been using,

My A- is Bio,79,TT.It was because I didnt practice past year question especially SBP one(My teacher damn lazy.She copy the whole SBP 2010 BIo into our trial.)Now I had finished a lot of past year questions and it seems easier and easier.

In my opinion,for the science subjects,bio,physics and chemistry,STOP reading revision books(the thick and heavy one),u really have to buy a lot of past year and model question from bookshop,the more the better.By doind this,u'll find that many questions are the same and they have the same answers too.These subjects often need u to explain a phenomena and how and why.You have to read the answer,not only memorising but also need to know how they explain,normally they will give a general explanation and then some elaboration based on the marks allocation.

Im now in trouble in sejarah as during my trial,my teacher had given a list of the topics,subtopics of the question in trial paper,sounds cheating but if they didnt do it,the overall trial result of the whole form 5 will be disastrous.And because Im a bit hardworking than other students,i had gotten 89 for sejarah.As we used to the tips given by the teacher,we will be in trouble in SPM.To prevent my grade descend,I am focusing on form 5 only,form 4 syllabus i read through once enough because the essay part,half of the question must be from form 5 syllabus,minimum 3 questions as the total questions in essay section is 7.So in SPM sejarah,i'll choose only the form 5 questions.this will increase my marks in essay section.Structure questions I think it is abit easy as u can get some marks for kbkk questions if u are familiar with it.

For english essay(continuous),the marks given is based on general impression.It means if ur story is interesting u will get a lot of marks for ur creativity and imagination ability,NO SEXUAL CONTENT!!!For narration essay, u have to build a decent story,many ppl forget how to create a story but the way to create a good one is as easy as abc:
1.Introduction
2.Development
3.Climax
4.Ending

By having these elements in the same order,ur story will be really a story rather than an events,which I think it is boring.Besides,do not copy stories from other sample essays,if the examiner find that ur story is similiar to the sample essays that they had read,it is considered copied and the penalty is very deadly.

BM karangan u must use a lot of peribahasa,the more the better.U have to memorise some bombastic sentences for the first paragraph.And u have to see the marks allocation,30 for section A and 100 for section B.You have 2 hours and 15 minutes in the exam,so u have to allocate more time on section B rather than A.I use 30 minutes to finish up section A and then i'll have 1 hour and 45 minutes for section B,which is balance for me,section A if u get 24 and above is great enough,u just need 76+ marks in section B to have more than total 100+ marks for paper 1.In paper 2,u must master the rumusan which i think it is extremely easy.For the komsas part,u must know the story of each cerpen,drama and etc.Then u must master the kbkk part which i think has high marks allocation.Tatabahasa if u start to improve now i think it will be too late,but some past year questions do help u to get some marks for that section.For the novel part,u must memorise every detail of both of the novel to get full marks,this section will help u to get another 13-15 marks if u really know the novel vry well.

Add maths is all about past year question,I got 67 for A.M. in mid year exam then I got 86 for trial all thanks to the SBP add maths questions.
Some tips over here: In a quadratic equations,eg,y=m(x+b)power of 2 +c, x+b always equal to 0 when x is in max or min point,which i think many students are confused in this part.To find m,the question normally will give a coordinate on the quadratic graph,normally y-intercept,then u use the coordinate and substitute the x and y into the quadratic equation,c is the y value in max or min point based on the question.

This post has been edited by BassBoomFanz: Oct 20 2013, 08:36 AM

That tiny slice of the world from your viewpoint is strong enough to put a dent in my brain. A Good Read!

What has been suggested by BassBoomFanz is actually really will get you good results, but it is a bad practice, not encouraged though acceptable due to our lousy education system.

But regarding the English composition writing, I would suggest writing factual essays because this will definitely expand your knowledge, and will be really helpful in your later Malaysia University English Test (MUET)

Tq for ur comment XD.I also agree with u that factual is better but im familiar with story type questions so I dont dare to bet on factual questions in spm.