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post Mar 9 2006, 09:36 AM, updated 20y ago

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hi, was just wondering any form 6-ers here from govt schools? which school? and how's the quality of education? how bout cbn's form 6?
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post Mar 9 2006, 10:55 AM

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CBN is chinese based national school right?

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go either st john's or VI
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post Mar 9 2006, 11:22 AM

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My brother has just completed his F6 from SMKV (VI).

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QUOTE(victorvandort @ Mar 9 2006, 09:36 AM)
hi, was just wondering any form 6-ers here from govt schools? which school? and how's the quality of education? how bout cbn's form 6?
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post Mar 9 2006, 11:47 AM

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cbn=convent bukit nanas....

go st john's or vi? how bout the quality of education there? are the teachers lousy or anything.....
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post Mar 9 2006, 11:54 AM

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Normally the intake is after SPM result right ?
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post Mar 9 2006, 01:54 PM

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around may to june lor ..
but it usually is getting later n later to start due to NS
which is actually a bad thing for potential students as you get lesser time to complete the syllabus

actually i'm one of the ex f6 ..
i took d STPM last yr ..
i'm not blaming it as it starts late but it does make my life harder as when i go for my exam i didn't even complete my syllabus yet
hence it does affect my results n now i'm taking the private U path already although my results won't be tat bad

btw i'm from sabah so the quality is very way lower than west malaysia
i noe becos i hv frens at west malaysia taking f6 and we do always have lecturers from west malaysia conducting seminars and so and from that i can conclude tat it's east malaysia quality is terribly low compared to west malaysia so i believe you ppl in west malaysia, the quality of f6 shld b way higher (as in terms of the teacher teaching)

to you people who wanna take f6 just keep in mind it's not how smart you are .. but how hardworking you are .. i can say i'm smart (as in terms of i always get straight As in UPSR, PMR, SPM) but as i'm not very hardworking n due to the lack of time to complete the syllabus i'm not quite confident about my results due to be out next week
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QUOTE(victorvandort @ Mar 9 2006, 11:47 AM)
cbn=convent bukit nanas....

go st john's or vi? how bout the quality of education there? are the teachers lousy or anything.....
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These schools are big schools, so they do have resources to conduct form 6.
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QUOTE(soul_project @ Mar 9 2006, 01:54 PM)

to you people who wanna take f6 just keep in mind it's not how smart you are .. but how hardworking you are .. i can say i'm smart (as in terms of i always get straight As in UPSR, PMR, SPM) but as i'm not very hardworking n due to the lack of time to complete the syllabus i'm not quite confident about my results due to be out next week
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I am second that . Even though my school managed to complete the syllabus , it didn't sound as easy as it look . Our form 6 teachers kept rushing with the lesson non stop , even under 2 period (80 minutes) . It was like hell , but I managed to bring myself through , cause form 6 taught me to study smart & and being independant by not rely on tuitions .

Oh yea I completed my form at SMJK © Chung Hwa in Kota Bharu , interested ? Maybe I can get the telephone number from them .
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post Mar 10 2006, 10:44 PM

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hmm kota bharu...actually i'm from kl..so i'm more interested in schools around here..but thanks anyway fatimus..
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post Mar 12 2006, 04:05 PM

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does it really matters about where you take your stpm? my teacher's daughter, lim sue zann was one of the country's top stpm student in year 2001 or 2002 ( i forgot the actual year ) and she studied in a school located in a small town in johor, called kota tinggi.
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post Mar 12 2006, 10:14 PM

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I'm in Sarawak and my school has started what we call tuition class for form six. So far all the teachers at my school is good though. My School is SMk Methodist Sibu. If I'm not wrong it started during Febuary.
PS: Form Six is much more harder compared to F4/F5 better think twice before going for it.
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QUOTE(WinnieH @ Mar 12 2006, 04:05 PM)
does it really matters about where you take your stpm? my teacher's daughter, lim sue zann was one of the country's top stpm student in year 2001 or 2002 ( i forgot the actual year ) and she studied in a school located in a small town in johor, called kota tinggi.
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post Mar 17 2006, 12:38 AM

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i'm an upper six student in kolej sultan abdul hamid in alor star... it's a secondary school anyway... the school offer both art and science stream in form 6... well, the f6 classed in the school are called pra - u (or pre - u)... i'm an art stream student... some of the teachers are very lousy... and in f6, you really cannot depend on the teachers... most of the time... of course f6 is much more difficult than f4/f5... stpm is even considered as one of the toughest examination... if your really hardworking, f6 wouldn't be a big problem for you...
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post Mar 17 2006, 01:21 AM

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form 6 susah la me in upper now still kong kong haiz
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post Mar 17 2006, 01:33 AM

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post Mar 17 2006, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Mar 17 2006, 01:21 AM)
form 6 susah la me in upper now still kong kong haiz
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wah u better brush up urself now lor ..
still got alot time ..
or else later end up like me ..
didn't even finish the syllabus then go take exam
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post Mar 17 2006, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 9 2006, 10:55 AM)
CBN is chinese based national school right?

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ermm no,CBN is a convent school
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post Mar 18 2006, 12:15 AM

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I think that the teacher's experience in teaching and marking STPM papers is essential. STPM isn't an easy exam, it's actually mind numbling ie: Maths 1 2005, after the exam I was mentally drained. You can never expect what question that comes out. The only way to prepare is to do enough on un-routine questions that challenges you to think out of the box.

For those who took the exam last year should remember the Maths 1 hexagon vector question. Passing shouldn't be a problem, but like what my tuition teacher said, they'll always get you at one or two question that'll cost you the A.

I had a crappy math teacher that couldn't teach worth shit, we were actually teaching her the basic, tuition was the only solution for us.

If you're only studying using the text book alone, think again. The best way is to do past year question after you've studied a certain chapter, but sometimes questions from the exam incorporates more than one topic in a single question. Also, a most common misconception is that you only do exam questions when exams are nearby. Have your past year exam papers and try giving them a go a topics you've already covered.

Having said this, I never regreted doing form 6, never.

Tip: Don't believe 100% in spotting questions, finish the syllabus ASAP and do a review on what you've studied.
Tip2: Short notes, life savers. 'Nuff said.
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post Mar 19 2006, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(PLYZing @ Mar 12 2006, 10:14 PM)
I'm in Sarawak and my school has started what we call tuition class for form six. So far all the teachers at my school is good though. My School is SMk Methodist Sibu. If I'm not wrong it started during Febuary.
PS: Form Six is much more harder compared to F4/F5 better think twice before going for it.
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oh PLYZing, ic, your school starts the tuition so all u can catch up with the syllabus
so good le sweat.gif
i think i better go study my f6 book now
how many chapters all u have covered alredi, PLYZ sweat.gif
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post Mar 19 2006, 07:53 PM

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Btw...jz wanna ask...usually when the f6 will start intake ?
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post Mar 19 2006, 08:43 PM

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JULY????
izzit true form 6 damn HARD LIKE HELL??
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post Mar 19 2006, 08:50 PM

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As long as you put in effort it wouldn't be. Not the kind of effort where you start studying seriously only 1/2 months away.

Just start early and you should be fine. Always try to do a topic review after you've finished certain chapters/topics,make your own short notes, attempt pass year questions and you should be fine. Scoring an A would require extra effort.


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Lol. I did something yesterday, just for fun. I went to google and typed in 'hardest pre-u examination'. Granted the results were mainly blogs/forums/etc, but I wonder if it was any coincidence that nearly half of the first 10 results were regarding STPM. biggrin.gif

Yes, it is hard like hell. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise, and don't take it unless you are damn damn damn damn damn damn damn hardworking (can study 5+ hours a day everyday or something). Many people who got full As for their SPM didn't get anything close to that for STPM. I'm one of them.

My advice: Don't go form 6 at all. It was a bad mistake on my part, I really hope noone else makes it.
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post Mar 19 2006, 11:06 PM

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yeah misao i agree wif you

Unless you are very very very very hardworking X999999, forget about it. I don't believe in study smart but not study hard for F6. It's a lie in my opinion. U need to work extra hard.

My advice : If you have the money don't even bother about taking form 6. It's hard, it's time consuming and the selection process for getting in local universities ain't that fair.

I did the mistake as well. I have the money but I join form 6. But now I'm going to private U instead. But in my part I wouldn't regret it as back then I didn't even know what to study after my SPM so there's no one to blame except myself.

i guess i'm same wif u misao. I get 7A and 2B in my SPM .. but my STPM 1A and 3C. Hurray for me .. doh.gif .. it's not like i was lazy .. it's just that you need to work super hard X 999999.

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QUOTE(Advanz @ Mar 19 2006, 07:53 PM)
Btw...jz wanna ask...usually when the f6 will start intake ?
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Normally the intake will be somewhere in July.
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Exactly the same. I'm prolly goin to private anyway.. I mean, I WILL apply for local uni but 3.58 CGPA get pharmacy? Chinese samore? Heh.

To those also undecided, IMO better you take A lvls, SAM, CPU, whatever. Private uni's requirement for A lvls also lower than STPM lol... like, wtf?
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3.58 get pharmacy ?
wow doens't look bright ler ..
infact it's not bright at all ..

so how u now ?
u register private U as backup or wat ?

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ya.... I was in form 6 too... for half a year.... and now I'm taking alvls.... First things first..I can really see the difference in quality of the education between government(stpm in my school) and private, the private edu is so much more better. teachers are so much more "understandable then the teachers tat thought me in stpm..... so ya... I;m glad I made the switch b4 it was too late. Another thing, stpm is super tough. I believe the jump from spm is too high, u have to work extremely hard to really score, stuff tat i study in stpm on the 2nd week i only study tat on my 2nd or 3rd semester here in alvs. Tho both will end up on the same level as one another but the good thing tat alvls does is it strengthens ur basics b4 it goes to the tough part....... but stpm... hahah first day itself u just face the hard topics straight away...

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wahahhaha
scared oledi to take form6
maybe my VERYY LAST CHOICE

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QUOTE(HIPED up HIPPY @ Mar 19 2006, 11:23 PM)
ya.... I was in form 6 too... for half a year.... and now I'm taking alvls....  First things first..I can really see the difference in  quality of the education between government(stpm in my school)  and private, the private edu is so much more better. teachers are so much more "understandable then the teachers tat thought me in stpm..... so ya... I;m glad I made the switch b4 it was too late. Another thing, stpm is super tough. I believe the jump from spm is too high, u have to work extremely hard to really score, stuff tat i study in stpm on the 2nd week i only study tat on my 2nd or 3rd semester here in alvs. Tho both will end up on the same level as one another but the good thing tat alvls does is it strengthens ur basics b4 it goes to the tough part....... but stpm... hahah first day itself u just face the hard topics straight away...
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yeah i've notice tat as well ..
the foundation needs to be very strong ..
but stpm doesn't give you time to do that ..
today's thing, today you have to study finish ..
you keep it aside for tomolo then study then you are in trouble

lucky u, u make the change earlier than any1 else .. rclxms.gif

but do not get me wrong .. if any1 else think STPM is good then go ahead then .. just don rant here later when you are in our shoes
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Form 6 in SMK Taman Sea wink.gif

Quality of education?
Cant complain cos u aint paying for it
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really that hard meh? but seeing that it's too hard, if someone scores very well (5a's huh?), will the person secure a place or chance for oversea scholarship?
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Mar 20 2006, 12:02 AM)
Form 6 in SMK Taman Sea wink.gif

Quality of education?
Cant complain cos u aint paying for it
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i sort of agree lor ..
you give nothing, you get nothing in return

QUOTE(angeldothack @ Mar 20 2006, 01:55 AM)
really that hard meh? but seeing that it's too hard, if someone scores very well (5a's huh?), will the person secure a place or chance for oversea scholarship?
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those oversea scholarship thingy is "dark secret" of the government de lor ..
u dun even wanna know how they select ppl to send to oversea
from what i see sometimes they send "underperforming" students to oversea rather than bright students
there's no certain that he/she will be sent
he/she might have a higher chances of getting send though ~
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As far as I know, there is no govt-based overseas scholarship for STPM at all. Your best reward by the govt is to get a local uni with the course of your choice... IF you slogged your way up to get really good grades.
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Mar 20 2006, 12:02 AM)
Form 6 in SMK Taman Sea wink.gif

Quality of education?
Cant complain cos u aint paying for it
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nah... u cant say tat. Doesnt mean we're not paying for it we should get bad quality altho tats the case.... With tat sort of attitude our public school system will nvr improve. See other countries for that matter of fact. The bad quality ends up wif students having to go for tution or self understanding to learn thier syllabus and jus cant rely on the school teachers. I believe in other countries like US or UK or Australia i dont think tuitions there is as common as us here.... So that really shows it la, if u get good quality education in schools, u'll not go out looking for tuition.
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i heard sci in form 6 is tough but art is easy? is it true?
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sort of lor ..
usually ppl who get above average in science class for SPM will do even better in art class for STPM
but the art class u mean is business class rite ?
or art class = geography, sejarah, BM those class ?

i only know if u science then convert go business most likely you'll do fine
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1 thing that i know for sure about that, the Maths paper for art's stream is freaking easy compared to science stream's paper
the other paper is the same (paper 1)

as for comparing the others, arts takes on a totally different batch of subjects so its hard to compare that way
but generally i would say its easier

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yeah about the maths i agree about tat
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Hello... I'm one of those who switched from Sci SPM to Arts STPM.

Math S may be simpler in that we don't have Trig and Poisson, but we've plenty of other statistical formulae to fumble over, heh.

I can't say that Arts is easy lah--it really depends on whether you're interested in it or not, eg. Economics/History not everyone can tahan. And if Sci has a lot of depth to it, well Arts has a lot of breadth. We can't really predict what they will ask, especially for more relative stuff like P.Perniagaan because the subject matter (as opposed to the syllabus) changes according to the present.

Bottomline: You must be (at least 50%) interested in what you study for STPM... it requires stamina to get thru' the 1.5 years! smile.gif
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UPSR,PMR,SPM i managed to get stright As...but STPM got only 1A anb 3Bs cry.gif cry.gif
acutually i believe that STPM not suitable for certain type of ppl. And i agree that inteligence doesn't matter much in form 6. It is more hardwork. Lots and lots of hardwork. Then gett result ready doen't mean can get into the course you want in public uni. Unless you get 4 flat. If not cannot be too picky. Like me...so limited choices. And i am not the only one who got straight As in SPM didn't do well for STPM.
Like SPM if last minute study still got chance lar...STPM jangan harap.

 

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