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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V36, I can carry 56 liulian. No belip me ah?

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post Dec 6 2012, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(s@ni @ Dec 6 2012, 09:56 AM)
ur saga with gen2 r3 bumper woo?
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His car is Gen2 Sedan sleep.gif
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post Dec 6 2012, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Dec 6 2012, 10:15 AM)
shocking.gif gen2 got come out sedan!!!
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QUOTE(s@ni @ Dec 6 2012, 10:16 AM)
tq boss.. my car is persona aeroback  blush.gif  blush.gif
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post Dec 6 2012, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Dec 6 2012, 10:19 AM)
my car is Proton Persoga R3 Gen2 whistling.gif
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Ford Fiesta TRD Sportivo VI blush.gif blush.gif
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post Dec 6 2012, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Dec 6 2012, 11:20 AM)
if yumi going pc fair, i die die also attend :drooling:
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post Dec 6 2012, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Dec 6 2012, 11:29 AM)
doh.gif wtfish your memory so good...
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Later bring her go PC fair, the Yumi is actually r3aper's wife, all kena troll rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Dec 6 2012, 11:43 AM)
mung jeuk yi doh
na lui na tin bat joi ting do joi foo ho dik yan
oh oh oh oh oh...

woops
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Lao jeok dei hok tao siong

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post Dec 6 2012, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Dec 6 2012, 11:50 AM)
ji yau daam mong
chung chin wa suet yiu yue hoh
kei sat nei yue jok yat dik ngoh
woot do gam tin bin fa sam doh
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Wooooooh
ngo yao ngo sam dei gu si
chan sao seh shiong mui dvn dak sat lok yv bei yv mong yi
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post Dec 6 2012, 12:47 PM

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Funker Iska cut out his kid to put his faceproblem pic next to Leona icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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post Dec 6 2012, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Dec 6 2012, 02:57 PM)
a quiet and raining afternoon~


Added on December 6, 2012, 5:20 pm shocking.gif  shocking.gif
*knock* *knock* *knock*
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post Dec 6 2012, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Dec 6 2012, 10:25 PM)
Lol! sue kaw them!!
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post Dec 7 2012, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(isHistory @ Dec 6 2012, 11:22 PM)
Bro like what others to consider? I think it's the +- differences from the original rim size thing? Ps going to buy my first car alot of thing dunno
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You can try pm forumer rogrog, he changed to 17" for his Saga.
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post Dec 7 2012, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Dec 7 2012, 01:30 AM)
was driving my gaga flx on everyday route..
suddenly realized that whenever i turn the steering.. will got some very faint "ngiii ngiii" sound.. it sounded like those door hinges without oil, but very very soft sound lar.. doh.gif

steering rack gonna kong soon ah? ph34r.gif
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Coming from behind the steering?
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post Dec 7 2012, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Dec 7 2012, 01:38 AM)
yea.. from the steering..
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That's the sound of metal contact surfaces rubbing against each other (dunnohuat, ask YAB). Send to SC for some greasework, claim under warranty.
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post Dec 7 2012, 08:17 AM

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Sooo....as I mentioned, my gf's sis got her new LBLP yesterday. So me, my gf and her sisters took turns to drive it for a round in the taman and we exchanged notes. Our combined driving experience include cars such as the Saga, Viva, Fiesta, Kelisa, new and old Vios. I'm the only one who knows nuts about cars.

In the result of our collective review, we found 2 very annoying, if at time dangerous flaws:

- Again, the brakes. It is just utter, utter rubbish. I had to press pretty hard to slow down for a bump while going downhill, it is as spongy as they come. I can't imagine trying to stop the car at highway speeds, in an emergency. Those who complain about the Saga's brakes should try out the Myvi's.

- The EPS is actually not that light, and there is a rather serious lag between steering assist levels. The EPS seems to come in 3 levels: maximum at low speeds, medium at <60km/h and minimum assist at more than that. The assist level should automatically switch as the car change speeds, but it seems the Myvi's EPS is very slow in switching to the right setting for the right speed. Imagine this scenario: You enter a corner at high speed and slows down to medium speed, you turn and hold the steering wheels with a constant amount of force as you enter the corner, then suddenly mid corner the steering assist switches to medium, and the steering resistance abruptly reduces, and you have to quickly compensate by reducing the force exerted to keep the wheels at that angle. Same thing when making U-turns and coming out of junctions. The EPS is unpredictable at best and dangerous at worst.

These 2 factors combined, means that the Myvi really isn't that comfortable to drive in the city after all. Forget about fun and handling, these 2 word don't remotely describe the driving experience. The seating position and the seats themselves are uncomfortable as well.

I find the Viva, being a smaller car with hydraulic steering (and ironically lighter than Myvi's EPS) to be easier and fun to drive by comparison, if you can overlook the milo tin body. Saga, well saga is in a different league in terms of handling and driving experience. The only thing that impresses me so far about the Myvi is the very quiet engine noise in the cabin.

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post Dec 7 2012, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Dec 7 2012, 08:23 AM)
I think viva also has quite loud engine noise right?
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Viva has terrible NVH.
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post Dec 7 2012, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Dec 7 2012, 08:29 AM)
NVH is...Sorry i noob...Dunno short form...
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Noise
Vibration
Harshness
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post Dec 7 2012, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Dec 7 2012, 08:34 AM)
I did test drive the Saga before i bought. That time i feel that i ride a conti car, the NVH is sooo good.

In fact, is becos my friend fetch me to the test drive dealer (10km distance) by motorbike. laugh.gif
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If Saga have worse NVH than a kapcai, can throw into the sea jor unsure.gif

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post Dec 7 2012, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Dec 7 2012, 08:41 AM)
what i want to stress is, NVH experience got some 'memory'. Last time when u drive Saga, maybe u won't think Viva NVH is the worst, but now fofi, thats why Viva worst NVH is much more apparent to u now.

Same case, my colleague recently who bought a Swift, he told me the car is noisy, which is not same as what he test drive that day. The culprit is he got 2 cars, 1 Kancil and 1 Livina. That day he drive Kancil to go for test drive, and then he go to collect car by Livina. doh.gif
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Nolah, even when I was driving Saga, Viva NVH is still worse, the 3-pot engine really vibrates like no tomorrow and sounds like a truck. The Maivee' NV is pretty impressive, but not H. That's coming from a Fofi experience whistling.gif

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post Dec 7 2012, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Dec 7 2012, 08:47 AM)
So actually saga NVH is worse or no le???
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Worse than Myvi, better than Viva.
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post Dec 7 2012, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Dec 7 2012, 08:51 AM)
Actually no need to compare.

Just sit in and drive, if u think unbearable, then it means is the worst NVH car for u so far, if u think doesn't matter, then it is good NVH car for you. smile.gif
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Trust me, after owning a car for a while, it will become the car with the worst NVH to you because suddenly other cars are better tongue.gif
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post Dec 7 2012, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Dec 7 2012, 09:00 AM)
Yalo...As what dares said...After I sit in myvi 1.5, found out that saga 1.3 interior is really "suck" compare to myvi, but i like saga got boot and engine only...Haha....Only interior i dun like...sound proof also...wakakak...
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dashboard design no need say jor, the touchscreen HU and meter cluster already dabao Saga's dash sleep.gif

However the Saga has better ergonomics eg. gear lever NOT on the center dash and longer, lower seats. If driving long distance, Saga is more comfortable.

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