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Working in Singapore without Working Permit, having only Int Passport, advises needed
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TSd0rr
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Mar 8 2006, 02:08 PM, updated 20y ago
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Alrite, I have a doubt.. If I am able to work part-time in singapore (no PR nor working permit), so theoritically I need to come back to M'sia after 14 days and then only can go back S'pore right? I heard people saying that we can stamp our passport (to extend our duration of staying) at Lavender without coming back to custom? We need to put down our reasons for extend, so besides saying "on vacation" and "take care of relatives who are physically unfit", what else reasons could be given? Will we be questioned much on it when we try to extend our stay there after 14 days?And lastly, I heard that after 2 months of staying in S'pore, we have to come back to M'sia for 1 month before going into S'pore again? Is that so? Desperately need advises on working in S'pore without PR and working permit... Thanks! Please, I need serious suggestions....  ** Topic title and question revised, refer to the bolded main question... This post has been edited by d0rr: Mar 8 2006, 10:04 PM
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SUSDavid83
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Mar 8 2006, 03:49 PM
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I guess there's exist a thread "Getting Job at Singapore" somewhere in this section. Try to read through that thread ...
The Power of Three will set us free.
This post has been edited by David83: Mar 8 2006, 03:50 PM
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zeist
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Mar 8 2006, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 8 2006, 03:49 PM) I guess there's exist a thread "Getting Job at Singapore" somewhere in this section. Try to read through that thread ... The Power of Three will set us free.Yes, created by me. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=233758&st=0
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SUSDavid83
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Mar 8 2006, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(zeist @ Mar 8 2006, 03:51 PM) So, how's your job hunt at Singapore? Any luck? Perhaps you may share your experiences with us ... The Power of Three will set us free.
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zeist
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Mar 8 2006, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 8 2006, 03:56 PM) So, how's your job hunt at Singapore? Any luck? Perhaps you may share your experiences with us ... The Power of Three will set us free.Dude, i'm still studying ler. I'm doing some research first, like some early plannings.
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wlcling
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Mar 8 2006, 04:54 PM
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yah.. this something like the thread i created in kopitiam too.. http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=260323&st=0
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TSd0rr
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Mar 8 2006, 10:08 PM
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thanks for all the information guys, and got most of my doubts cleared.. however, my situation is a bit different here: I only have Int. Passport without working permit without PR etc.. So basically, we are allowed to stay in S'pore for 60 days only within 90 days right? And we need to get our passport stamped each 14 days right? We need to fill in white card with reason of staying right? Main Ques: So besides saying "on vacation" and "take care of relatives who are physically unfit", what else reasons could be given? Will we be questioned much on it when we try to extend our stay there after 14 days? If we follow the rule (60 days in S'pore within 90 days), there are no other reasons they will prohibit us from staying there right? Thanks! Hope you all get my doubt and question
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SUSDavid83
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Mar 8 2006, 10:13 PM
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If you're really got youself hired at Singapore, the company you're working at will take care your working pernit right?
Correct me if I'm wrong ...
The Power of Three will set us free.
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yuyuyu
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Mar 8 2006, 10:35 PM
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yes, the company will do the things for ya. most of the time.
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wlcling
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Mar 8 2006, 10:38 PM
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just to let you know that if you keep going in and out for too many consecutive times on your "leisure" trips, you could get barred from entering for the next 2 years. Its to deter those working there 'illegally'.
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TSd0rr
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Mar 8 2006, 10:39 PM
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I'm sorry to say that there is such a rule where in order for a company to hire a foreigner (like us), they must have at least 3 employees. Meaning, 3 Singaporean to 1 Foreigner.I am asking for situation where my company is not even able to issue me working permit.. I understand all the other procedures with working permit or PR, and thanks for all the precious information.. but what I wanted to know most desperately already been stated and highlighted  Thanks!
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fLeA
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Mar 8 2006, 10:41 PM
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Hmm, how do you intend to get a job in Singapore without a valid working permit?
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TSd0rr
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Mar 8 2006, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Mar 8 2006, 10:38 PM) just to let you know that if you keep going in and out for too many consecutive times on your "leisure" trips, you could get barred from entering for the next 2 years. Its to deter those working there 'illegally'.  is that so? do you know how do they define the frequency of in and out as too many times? thanks!
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TSd0rr
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Mar 8 2006, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(fLeA @ Mar 8 2006, 10:41 PM) Hmm, how do you intend to get a job in Singapore without a valid working permit? Yes, possible. If I am telling you that I am hired by a company with only 2 employees?  Believe me or not, I want to know the consequences
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fLeA
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Mar 8 2006, 10:43 PM
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If I'm not wrong, the 3 Singaporean to 1 Foreigner does not apply to all Malaysian only those from Sabah and Sarawak.
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TSd0rr
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Mar 8 2006, 10:47 PM
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Oh? It was told by the boss himself.. anyway, is there any ways for me to verify this? (besides going s'pore and ask the emigrant)..
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fLeA
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Mar 8 2006, 10:54 PM
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You can check out www.mom.gov.sg.
Does your boss know you will need to leave Singapore after a duration?
To be honest, Singapore is very harsh with working without permit, are you willing to take the risk? I will suggest you going through the proper way by applying Work Permit. Getting a work permit isnt hard as long as you hold a Diploma.
This post has been edited by fLeA: Mar 8 2006, 10:55 PM
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SUSDavid83
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Mar 8 2006, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(fLeA @ Mar 8 2006, 10:54 PM) You can check out www.mom.gov.sg. Does your boss know you will need to leave Singapore after a duration? To be honest, Singapore is very harsh with working without permit, are you willing to take the risk? I will suggest you going through the proper way by applying Work Permit. Getting a work permit isnt hard as long as you hold a Diploma. Diploma from Singapore colleges or anywhere? The Power of Three will set us free.This post has been edited by David83: Mar 8 2006, 10:58 PM
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TSd0rr
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Mar 8 2006, 11:45 PM
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Thank you fLeA for your precious information!  There's Employment Pass Eligibility (EPE) Certificate available to be applied, and it allows us to stay in Singapore up to 6 months to find jobs, reasonable enough! Anyhow, still need to go over to process with the application and get the detailed information... Thanks a million!
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SUSDavid83
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Mar 8 2006, 11:48 PM
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The EPE cert and the proper way to apply the Work Permit are two different entities right?
The Power of Three will set us free.
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TSd0rr
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Mar 8 2006, 11:51 PM
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Yes, they are two different thing. One is for you to stay there and find jobs, while the other one is permit of working there.
As for the part-time job I mentioned, it is merely part-time to earn daily living expenses before I get my permanent job there. Before having the permanent job, I would just stay on the EPE cert until working permit given by my future permanent job employer (hopefully possible to find one in 6 months time)..
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wlcling
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Mar 9 2006, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(d0rr @ Mar 8 2006, 10:41 PM)  is that so? do you know how do they define the frequency of in and out as too many times? thanks! The immigration officer defines what is too much by going through your entry history. If they notice that you have been entering singapore too frequently without much 'cooling down' period, then they will chop something on your passbook, something like "Barred etc..." BTW, all companies there have a quota of the number of foreign workers they can employ.
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