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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Liverpool 1-3 Aston Villa- Gerrard

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post Nov 28 2012, 10:03 AM

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how come someone dont recognize our Duke was serious when talk about football? SoS, management, fans, players, manager....
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post Nov 28 2012, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Nov 27 2012, 09:34 PM)
I agree but it isn't the first time. I mean we rely a lot on Suarez today. In recent years we were relying on Torres and Gerrard. Not a good thing of course. Thing is defensive midfielders are key in today's game and aside from Lucas, we have none which is a matter of concern. Houllier had Hamann and Rafa inherited Hamann and then signed Mascherano. Look how important Hamann was in Istanbul. When he came on at half time, Kaka became a spectator. We've clearly missed a fully fit Lucas and as many central midfielders as we have, I think we need to sign cover for him. Neither Sahin nor Allen appear to be permanent solutions. Perhaps a versatile player like Barnetta who can play in that position?
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Agreed on importance of a DM, however we don't need that player in every match. I don't see the importance in having a Masch or Lucas against the likes of West Ham or Stoke. If Sahin is the deep lying playmaker that we all claim to be, we ought to give him the chance to prove it.

Just a stop-gap solution anyway, in the long term we should get a young player to be Lucas's understudy.

QUOTE(dillonyong @ Nov 27 2012, 10:44 PM)
Alamak. Then I will come back during one of the weekends to make it up to you guys. Let's do it in January la. biggrin.gif
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We're playing at Old Trafford on 13th January, Sunday. Perfect match to invite our United friend here. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Nov 28 2012, 10:30 AM)
We're playing at Old Trafford on 13th January, Sunday. Perfect match to invite our United friend here. biggrin.gif
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Bad idea, Led. Once he starts, it will take a while for him to stop.

The worst thing we can do to him is, we forget him. Once he gets no more attention, he will fade away
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post Nov 28 2012, 11:05 AM

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post Nov 28 2012, 11:44 AM

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60 votes casted and none voting for Giuseppe Rossi ...I would have to say it's surprising given the fact that I thought Rossi is much better than Remy and Remy actually got 2 votes!

Bcos Rossi is former mancs?
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Ok. Sorry boys. I am going to Bali from 24th Dec to 1st Jan. Will catch up with you guys on 13th January if possible. Afterall, it's MU vs Liv. smile.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Nov 28 2012, 11:51 AM)
Ok. Sorry boys. I am going to Bali from 24th Dec to 1st Jan. Will catch up with you guys on 13th January if possible. Afterall, it's MU vs Liv. smile.gif
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what????? sad.gif

We cannot discuss your blog then!!!
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As of January transfer, Cavani would be ideal. But Rodgers statement on a quiet January transfer window, a loan move for Sturridge would seem the most likely..


Added on November 28, 2012, 12:40 pm
QUOTE(solstice818 @ Nov 28 2012, 11:44 AM)
60 votes casted and none voting for Giuseppe Rossi ...I would have to say it's surprising given the fact that I thought Rossi is much better than Remy and Remy actually got 2 votes!

Bcos Rossi is former mancs?
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At this point, don't really care who we get as long as its a recognized finisher. I'd even snatched Steven Fletcher from Sunder land given the chance.

Suarez crying icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(PPZ @ Nov 28 2012, 12:06 PM)
what????? sad.gif

We cannot discuss your blog then!!!
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I am coming back from 12th to 14th January. We can all watch MU vs Liv. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 28 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(weichieh007 @ Nov 28 2012, 12:34 PM)
As of January transfer, Cavani would be ideal. But Rodgers statement on a quiet January transfer window, a loan move for Sturridge would seem the most likely..


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At this point, don't really care who we get as long as its a recognized finisher. I'd even snatched Steven Fletcher from Sunder land given the chance.

Suarez crying  icon_question.gif
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BR sure say like this..

if not other club sure lion open mouth.. sweat.gif

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post Nov 28 2012, 01:26 PM

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If thisis anything to go by, it looks like we're looking at a loan signing which puts Bent right up there in contention.

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/foo...ary-and-pl-1862?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Nov 28 2012, 01:26 PM)
If thisis anything to go by, it looks like we're looking at a loan signing which puts Bent right up there in contention.

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/foo...ary-and-pl-1862?
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I too have the vague suspicion we're gonna get a loan deal, considering the Sahin deal. Looks like the owners don't want to spend anything unless the player is a confirmed fit
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Five questions to pass the time as we wait for kickoff from White Hart Lane.

1) More Suso finally or what?

2) Jose Enrique as midfield/winger, left-back, or not in at all?

3) Does Steven Gerrard get dropped? If so, who takes his spot?

4) Two up top (Sterling/Suarez), or three across the front?

5) Including both sides--first goalscorer, first booking, and first substitution?

http://liverpool.theoffside.com/2012/11/28...-premier-league?


Added on November 28, 2012, 1:46 pm
Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers believes that if the Reds had benefited from a few more refereeing decisions this season, they would be knocking on the door of a top four spot.

At present Rodgers’ men find themselves sitting eleventh in the Premier League, with 16 points from 13 games.

The Reds are on an eight-match unbeaten league run, but have drawn seven games this season, leaving them off the pace in the race for a top four place. Liverpool are nine points behind fourth-placed Chelsea and have only scored one more goal than they have conceded.

But Rodgers thinks the situation could and perhaps should be very different, with the Northern Irishman feeling decisions have gone against his side which have cost them vital points.

"We know we’re not too far away – we’re very close to arriving in that zone", he told Liverpool’s official site, about aiming for a Champions League spot.

"You only need to look at some of the things that have gone against us this season, in terms of goals that were disallowed", continued the former Swansea manager.

"If you take those points alone, that would have shot us right up there."
Read more at http://www.insidefutbol.com/2012/11/28/liv...A4VALlzWmuF8.99


Added on November 28, 2012, 1:48 pmRodgers backs Gerrard to find his scoring touch but says he is still Liverpool's star man

Brendan Rodgers is adamant Steven Gerrard remains Liverpool's man for the big occasion as he dismissed claims the midfielder has had to adapt his game.
The England international is enjoying his best run of fitness for two seasons and has played every minute of every Barclays Premier League game so far.

His goal return, however, is lower than what would normally be expected after 12 matches and he has not hit the target since Norwich City were beaten 5-2 on September 29.

But Rodgers, whose side face Tottenham at White Hart Lane this evening, insists Gerrard’s input and drive is absolutely vital and has no concerns about the contribution he is making.

'I don’t think there has been a clear change in his game in terms of what I have asked him to do,’ said Rodgers. ‘What Steven has been over the years is the player who makes the difference. He may not have had the goals this season that he has wanted but he still been effective.
'There has been nothing more or less I have asked in terms of defensive responsibilities. Of course we want the midfield players to score goals, to get in the box and gamble. When Steven has done that he is fantastic – look at the goal against Manchester united.
'He has done terrific for us. He has obviously had to take on more of a mantel because this is a much younger group. I think that is the biggest thing this year: there is probably a bit more responsibility on him in relation to looking out more for the team.

But he has been brilliant I have got to say. He has been fit, playing games and recovering really well. I am so happy to have someone like that in the group because he is a phenomenal player and a great presence for us. It’s great to have a player of that ability in the group.’
Rodgers will come face-to-face with Gylfi Sigurdsson for the first time tonight since the Icelandic international rejected a move to Liverpool in favour of Tottenham.
Sigurdsson, though, has only made five Premier League starts and would have played significantly more had he gone to Anfield.
'All we can do is present to players the opportunity to come to a great club like this and give them the idea of what we are hoping to achieve,’ said Rodgers.

'Having worked with him before and knowing his strengths, his ability to play in that no10 role, this would have been a good opportunity for him where he evolve.’
Martin Skrtel, meanwhile, is hoping for better fortune. White Hart Lane has been a bogey ground for the Slovakian defender in recent years and last September he received the run-around from Gareth Bale after Kenny Dalglish used the central defender as a right-back.
Skrtel endured a shaky start to the current campaign but has been in much better form recently and he is determined to help Liverpool stretch their unbeaten run in the Barclays Premier League to a ninth game.
'I certainly don’t want to repeat what happened season because it was horrible,’ said Skrtel, reflecting on a 4-0 defeat. ‘I didn’t play in my own position and I ended up getting sent off. The year before I broke my jaw after banging heads with Carra but that is football.
'I have to forget about these things and look forward. The expectations when you are at Liverpool are always high and that’s still the same. All we are doing is going from game to game and trying to get as many points as we can and hopefully at the end of the season we can be in the top four.’


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Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney expects his side’s defence to be given a tough time this evening by Andy Carroll.

The England striker’s club, West Ham, take on Rooney’s Red Devils at Old Trafford and the Manchester United man is well aware of Carroll’s qualities from their time together with the Three Lions.

Indeed, Rooney witnessed Carroll’s ability at close quarters over the summer when the then-Liverpool forward powered a header in for England against Sweden at Euro 2012.

Carroll has been described as "unplayable" on his day and Rooney knows the Manchester United defenders will find it tough facing him.

"Andy Carroll is a handful", Rooney told his club’s official site, going on to point out his qualities are both aerial and on the deck.

"I am sure if you ask any defender, they find it difficult to play against someone like that who is good in the air and on the floor.

"He is physical and he makes it difficult.
Read more at http://www.insidefutbol.com/2012/11/28/man...4gPd1Wry450y.99

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Nov 28 2012, 01:45 PM)
Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney expects his side’s defence to be given a tough time this evening by Andy Carroll.

The England striker’s club, West Ham, take on Rooney’s Red Devils at Old Trafford and the Manchester United man is well aware of Carroll’s qualities from their time together with the Three Lions.

Indeed, Rooney witnessed Carroll’s ability at close quarters over the summer when the then-Liverpool forward powered a header in for England against Sweden at Euro 2012.

Carroll has been described as "unplayable" on his day and Rooney knows the Manchester United defenders will find it tough facing him.

"Andy Carroll is a handful", Rooney told his club’s official site, going on to point out his qualities are both aerial and on the deck.

"I am sure if you ask any defender, they find it difficult to play against someone like that who is good in the air and on the floor.

"He is physical and he makes it difficult.
Read more at http://www.insidefutbol.com/2012/11/28/man...4gPd1Wry450y.99
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dats why im maddd he went on loan! vmad.gif
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Nov 28 2012, 02:14 PM)
dats why im maddd he went on loan!  vmad.gif
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I'm not a big fan of Caroll but he could have offered us a different option when we need to fit in different tactic. So I have to agree with you.

But I am particularly unhappy with his work rate. Players like Suarez, Sterling, Enrique, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Carra, just to name a few will break through the Great Wall of China for Liverpool but this tall fella is lazy most of the time.

I hardly see him trying to make himself available for passes and find spaces with quick turn or something. He's always standing there like a wax statue.
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You said i laughed at my own jokes and thats sign of desperation. You sound more desperate...and upset. Looneytunes....geezz
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Desperate because you can't win an argument and deflect everything aimed at you. Are you lonely?

Your profile says you're a chick. I think you may have this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic_personality_disorder

No thanks needed.

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Nov 28 2012, 02:33 PM)
I'm not a big fan of Caroll but he could have offered us a different option when we need to fit in different tactic. So I have to agree with you.

But I am particularly unhappy with his work rate. Players like Suarez, Sterling, Enrique, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Carra, just to name a few will break through the Great Wall of China for Liverpool but this tall fella is lazy most of the time.

I hardly see him trying to make himself available for passes and find spaces with quick turn or something. He's always standing there like a wax statue.
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Yup true...but when he gets the ball, theres very little defenders can do. and hes good with header. We have alot of corner kicks but most of them went off for nothing. last time defenders had to choose between skrtel n him to mark during corners n freekicks.
was thinking of him, borini and suarez would make a nice front.
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Nov 28 2012, 02:38 PM)
Yup true...but when he gets the ball, theres very little defenders can do. and hes good with header. We have alot of corner kicks but most of them went off for nothing. last time defenders had to choose between skrtel n him to mark during corners n freekicks.
was thinking of him, borini and suarez would make a nice front.
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Yup. He could have been useful against Stoke, Everton and Swansea, so it's really unfortunate. We spend an awful lot of money on this kid, so the decent thing to do is to keep kicking his bottom and tell him to work hard. He will offer a different option. If they are going for a world class forward hence have to give up on AC then I have nothing to say.

With little options available and yet letting him out on loan is a poor decision. If we look at January, and we still dont have money to sign any decent forward, why not take him back?

It's terrible decision by the owner and BR on this part.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Nov 28 2012, 02:57 PM)
Yup. He could have been useful against Stoke, Everton and Swansea, so it's really unfortunate. We spend an awful lot of money on this kid, so the decent thing to do is to keep kicking his bottom and tell him to work hard. He will offer a different option. If they are going for a world class forward hence have to give up on AC then I have nothing to say.

With little options available and yet letting him out on loan is a poor decision. If we look at January, and we still dont have money to sign any decent forward, why not take him back?

It's terrible decision by the owner and BR on this part.
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exactly, last week we couldve just call in AC so the front can play differently already!
So many of his header fell nicely for suarez n co and made it thru the final 3rd at the closing of last season. But our conversion rate was so poor deswai

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