from what i saw saus posted on the fb page about finding more admin, i humbly suggest not increasing the number of admin but arm them with the tool of being an admin (hacker identification, admin console command and other tf2 stuff). too many head might complicates thing,sorry if my opinion offend anybody..

I prefer more regulars get moderator powers to mute voice spammers and kick griefers. It is better than messaging me to do it. Saves time because I could be in another game.

My views are mainly related to the first bullet point -

I've also always thought that the purpose of the weekend pugging is to bring some sort of fun and variety for regulars, especially those who are looking for something a bit different.

I think the pug events can bring the community together, in a way, as (imho) they are for those relatively new to competitive TF2 and would be nice for people who are interested in learning something new. For me, the LYN pugs are a way to bridge the gap between normal pubbing and the high skill level of AF.

I'm not very sure how the view of elitism/aristocracy came about, as I've always thought the private pugs are actually opened to all regulars - correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume people need a certain level of skill to participate in such events, and it would be quite illogical for someone who just joined TF2 to suddenly want to delve into competitive matches. (If that's what koni meant by new players)

(And LYN community is a term where I think there is some sort of consistency in the members, and not one-off visits from random players)

Also, I thought the introduction of the pug server was because we asked (and begged) for it repeatedly, so it's sort of weird how it turned into something so debatable.

This post has been edited by hedwig: Nov 26 2012, 01:30 PM

+1

I know you need some skill level before you could step into competitive kind of play and the problem lies here. It is so limited to a group of people, others couldn't join into it. It's not a publicly known password. Let say one of the player from PL6 gang, that Oldman guy(I forgot his name) want to play some pugs but he is not close with anyone who have access to the server, it's hard for him to join in even he is quite a good player.

I'm very looking forward on how open the server can be when it is ready since Eric mention it's in a testing stage. I'm looking at some form of channel where players can get into it, something like a public password which can be found in the forum.

For now, I'm being questioned that am I giving some people a private server for them to play because if it is, then I'm being biased or mis-using my power. If you guys could run some events, invite different kind and type of player, I can help out with advertisement across servers.

From an organisation point of view, when we do something, we looking for return/profit. If you can lift up the standard or fame, we will always try our best to fulfill any request.

I know the community currently split into the HL gang and the PUG gang. If I'm going to put a server out there, any of you need to show me some result. Show me why is it better to have a PUG/HL server than another 2Fort server.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Kronon/
Dirty Old Man? DOM

That being said, can I apply to be a Moderator?

I won't be active for the next 4 weeks, though. Finals

Imo if someone is interested in higher level play they will naturally seek out the passwords and stuff. If denied access after inquiry, then that's a different story. Also, many good players are content with just pubbing.

thexs for the moderator! WE WAN THEXS.

GIMME MOD POWAH I KIK HACKERS AND GIVE NUBS LAZR WEPON.

gonna add more frienlist for mod and admin again...

fb too

ALL HAIL THEXS. ALL HAIL THEXS

good luck on those who will be bestowed by sosegsasaug with them mod powah!
i'll just be content with my gold VIP tag here

yes... more muters plz

I dont quite understand the first point, my my opinion is i thought PUG is a public event and every player can apply to join, in this case i wonder who are the people you mentioned that rejected to play with them. There might be some sort of elitism among certain group of people but i don't think that really matters or affect the community. If you want to look into this, i suggest you give more example of the "aristocrat" acts they did and see if we could use up some help or give an idea what we suppose to do.

Also i wanna point out thexs's moderator's idea. It's actually thinkable because admins can't be on for 24hours. It's pretty much useless having all the power but not effective against people who break the rules. Let say if someone mic spammed and caused a huge disturbance in the server and all we do is to mute him or maybe someone calls the admin and by the time he reached the server that person is gone. If a regular/mod is there he might be able to give him a warning and save the trouble for the admin to join the server just to give warnings to some kids who probably will not care much.

I play in lyn server most of the time and i've experienced alot of issues like stacking and 4snipers/4spies in a team. We can't completely blame them, who likes losing? And if we don't allow them to play spy or we only allow experienced players to play spy, how are they gonna improve their spy's skill? Mods can be responsible to give advice on how to play spy or they take up the medic spot(least favourited class among the pubs from my experience). About the stacking issue well i cant say much since there is still gonna be stacks even after specs are disabled.

For that being said, i've sent my application for the "semi-admin" thingy from the post in the fb page. And i do wish my my ideas above do contribute abit to the current issue.

Lastly, i think vantoria did a great job in talking crap through mic and bringing laughters in the servers.

Yes I also do think his mouth full of **** sometimes and Good Luck to all future moderators.



This post has been edited by VoodooPuppetz: Nov 30 2012, 10:11 AM

Girl gets to be mod faster?

Why remind me of breaktown and her screaming.very shrill

Rather than having more mods why not give vote rights to the people playing the game? Such as votekicks, mute, gag and etc. I've played some of the server and to franks sometimes(not always) the players has to deal with the facts that's there's a speed hacker and they have to
1. Wait for an admin/mod to show up or
2. Just deal with it.

I do believe that the players themselves can actually get themselves involve and contribute in moderating the server they played in. I'm not saying we do not need more mods, but this might actually help the community to self-moderate.


Only my 2 pence, feel free to comment.

Dik

that one ancient already, many player just press "1" when voting show up in mid-game.

according what i read in tf2 thread for so long

so if give power for voting i don't think it really working >_<