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post Jan 1 2014, 04:29 AM

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QUOTE(fashawho @ Aug 19 2013, 01:41 PM)
hi all,

i know this is an old thread, just wanna know, anyone studied in OUM bangi?
Planning to further my degree there.
Is the degree will be treated as normal degree from IPTA?
Can it be use to apply for jobs in gov sector?
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As long as the degree is accredited by MQA & recognised by JPA, then it is equivalent to basic honors degree from any IPTA.

Yes, one of the main criteria for applying in public sector you must have a qualification recognised by JPA.

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post Jan 1 2014, 04:30 AM

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QUOTE(opfazeerul @ Nov 18 2013, 10:30 PM)
hi, im also doing some research of OUM bcoz i want to pursue my degree...im currently working and like to take part0time studies..now 2 of my choice is whether OUM or UTM SPACE... does anyone here know about the Bachelor of Information Technology and Network Computing with Honours that OUM currently offered? i've already checked with MQA and JPA and its recognized =)
Kindly checked via OUM site:

www.oum.edu.my

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post Nov 18 2017, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(Big_Dream @ Jul 18 2017, 11:25 PM)
Does anyone know whether an OUM degree is recognized worldwide? Or have you encountered cases where somebody with an OUM degree is studying abroad?
Your replies would help me a lot! Thanks! ^^
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OUM courses are recognised by UK NARIC, is the designated UK national agency for the recognition and comparison of international qualifications and skills. Generally employers and academician in UK and even Commonwealth countries will refer to UK NARIC database for foreign qualifications.
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post Nov 18 2017, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(mr.thinkpad @ Jul 7 2017, 04:41 PM)
me personally wont choose Open University Malaysia (OUM) due to high fees and scare cert is not recognized
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OUM is recognised by both MQA and JPA. OUM courses is also recognised by UK NARIC, which is a national agency in UK that basically like JPA in Malaysia.

In regards of fees, OUM's MBA fees still within reasonable range as compared to other private Unis.
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post Nov 18 2017, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(langsat8 @ Aug 25 2017, 08:09 PM)
Dun study in OUM. I study in OUM for 1 year and i am very regret about it because there are only 3 tutorial in one semester and the online tutor is always busy with something else and reply your message very slowly. I always study myself and did not get much help from OUM and the exam is very difficult. All is subjective and  only pretty of them is in objective. I recommend PLT Institute Batu Pahat because got a lot of practical and got 8 tutorial for one semester.
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Please note that OUM is by now using its online platform to move away from conventional learning. Exam is expected to be difficult, as the syllabus are on par with public Unis. If one to encounter easy courses to score, what's the point of having MQA to audit and accredited the courses in the first place?

OUM is by now reducing essay based exams and higher percentage of examinations are leaning towards MCQ as OUM already has a dedicated Question Bank.

Please note that if your e-tutor is basically shirked his / her responsibility, or not helpful, you may submit your grievances via e-CRM and please get Batu Pahat LC staffs to assist you in filing a complain as they should be aware of learner's difficulties. Or try to secure appointment with your LC's Director in regards of your issues.
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post Nov 18 2017, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(langsat8 @ Oct 16 2017, 02:21 PM)
dun go oum. it only have 3 tutorial one semester. you will learn nothing there. I am studying there and learn nothing so far.
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Please note by 2nd year onwards, most OUM learners already familiarize and adapted to OUM's e-learning will by this time already quite independent in managing their own self study. From feedback by F2F tutors, usually learners during the 1st year will attend most of the weekend tutorials, by 2nd year onwards most learners will rarely go to tutorials and instead choose self learning route.

Most students I met and interacted with did learn new things as their studies progressed year by year. If you expected OUM to spoonfed its learners you are highly mistaken. OUM is all for independent learning.

At the end its all boiled down to individuals. If one really strive and overcome hurdles, one can learn new useful things even from mistakes.
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post Nov 18 2017, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(vhs1 @ Oct 2 2017, 05:05 PM)
how is OUM ?
cert / dip / deg recognised  ?
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Yes ... by MQA and JPA.
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post Nov 18 2017, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(mr.thinkpad @ Jul 7 2017, 10:29 AM)
if fully online.. how sit for exam lol
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Exam still being done in conventional methods, means taking exams normally at OUM Learning Centers. To accommodate our students who had to go 100% online learning mode due to have to work overseas, OUM will make arrangements for our overseas learners to take exam at Malaysian Embassies or Consulates. OUM have 4000 - 5000 international students based in India, Sri Lanka, Vietnam, Hungary, Maldives, Bahrain and a few African countries whereby these international took OUM courses at OUM international affliated centers.

Besides, Open Uni UK, Open Uni Indonesia and even HK Open Uni have conducted fully 100% online learning. In Malaysia, OUM, WOU, AeU, Mediu, Global Nxt Uni all also have both 100% online learning and blended mode of learning.

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post Nov 18 2017, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(Big_Dream @ Nov 18 2017, 07:26 PM)
Btw, how can I know if OUM is recognized by the US and Canada as well?
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Recognition differed per country basis. Although I would advise if you really wanted a recognised international qualification and have money to burn, try Open Uni UK through 100% online learning (the costs is skyhigh) or try Phoenix Uni USA that also offered distance learning programs.

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post Nov 21 2017, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(snar410 @ Nov 20 2017, 12:15 AM)
i really like your life explanation..

not like the other guy. keep on saying dont go oum.
i did when there 1semester. but i was pregnant and due before exam. so i differ.

now i want to study again. just need more info how is it now.

thanks
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You should check your status with the nearest OUM Learning Center. I believe that your status is considered 'dormant' aka inactive learner. You just have to reactivate your status to active student and re-registered for the new semester. However just follow the guideline as set by OUM.
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post Dec 13 2017, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(langsat8 @ Dec 6 2017, 02:54 PM)
What is the point of getting a cert that did not have tutor supports?I am studying in OUM and if i encounter problem, there is nothing help from OUM. The etutor did not reply my question and tutor is just kind of master and phd from some third class university and their professional is not suited to my subject. They cant even open a software that requires to programming.
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You do have a platform known as e-CRM to air your grievances. Or you could meet with your LC's Director with your course colleagues in regards to your course's tutors' eligibility to tutor your course modules. Your feedback in regards to tutor's assessment by the LC's concerned is paramount.

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Seriously, dun pick OUM if you want to learn something from face to face tutorial. Like i say, there are only 3 tutorial in one semester and one tutorial only have 2 hours .


Well, there do have other Unis that offers more rigid distance learning modes through Pendidikan Jarak Jauh (PJJ) and Pendidikan Luar Kampus (PLK). But this required full attendance to classes (either evening classes or weekend classes). The reason why most choose either OUM or WOU / AeU is the online learning and flexibility factors.

At the end, prospective part time learners aka working adults have choices and options upon which they think is most suitable to their learning needs.

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That means you only have 6 hours to learn from tutor for the subject you enroll. The online forum they provide basically cant help you at all because the etutor is all calefe. I complain so much times and all the etutor and tutor they hired still kind of suck. If you are students that need guides when studying, dun enroll OUM. You will learn nothing.


Typically we received complaints from e-Tutors that learners do not participate in the e-forums instead. That is why the new E-Chat at scheduled period is being introduced since Sept 2017.

OTOH, I beg to differ. We've learners that studied with OUM who by far go leaps and beyond while able to learn and manage their learning by self study alone. Quite a large number managed their study thru 100% online learning even without face to face tutorials.

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Typically, after i get my cert for degree, i woun consider oum for studying master because I need help from tutor during studying.


Well, as a consumer, you have choices. We've had our alumnis studying postgraduate degrees to other Universities using OUM's qualifications, which is great by our opinion. Others also continued studies from Masters to PhDs with us as they are already comfortable with OUM's e-learning deliverables. Each to his or her own preferences.

Alas, as I reiterated earlier, its all about choices. If you think to continue your master's degree to other University, good for you.

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I heard their master tutorial have been reduced from 5 to 4 per semester.


Well, this is the same for undergraduate classes being reduced from 4 to 3 classes. This is in line with OUM following closely with other Open Universities all around the world in offering less face to face tutorials while increasing e-content in mobile learning platform. In fact, OUM has slowly moved away from traditional e-learning modes by no longer offering physical modules since 2015 and e-forum slowly being phased out in favor of scheduled E-Chat instead.

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But all you  need is a cert that recognized by government and you dun expect to learn anything, maybe you can try OUM


Irregardless, ALL qualifications in Malaysia MUST BE RECOGNISED by Malaysian Govt, thru' MQA and JPA. I disagree with your statement, because when you do self learning, it means you ALREADY LEARN something. Your statement is a double edge sword, as those that study thru normal Malaysian higher education system (warts and all) which is basically rote learning in most Universities could also be categorised as "dun expect to learn anything."

Simply put, do not put an over-generalisation.

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But remember OUM exam is not simple, but one good thing is that the exam question are coming from modules. That means if you really study module then you will get good result but the points is that you need to understand the modules.Trust me, it is very hard to understand without a good and full time tutorial.


Studying at OUM or any other Universities have never being simple for anybody unless one is a born genius. Yet your last statement is in its form, is incorrect. All over the world, case in point OU UK, have revolutionised open distance learning which is the penultimate point, learners managed a fully customised self managed learning by themselves at any given time, anywhere any place. And open distance learning has been recognised as the drive for human capital development on par with traditional conventional methods offered by conventional universities.

OUM is moving towards that goal. That is why MQA consulted OUM to set up APEL eco-system, fully realised from OUM's own previous Flexible / Open Entry system.

At the end of the day, OUM pushed boundaries of e-Learning following closely with other Open Unis all the world over.

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post Dec 13 2017, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(langsat8 @ Dec 7 2017, 10:39 PM)
Good news. For those want a degree cert and dun expected to learn anything from proper tutorial, can enroll to OUM because now OUM has change program structure . For example, degree of business admin only 5 subjective final for the whole course. That is means u only need study hard for 5 semester and each subjective final for each semester, then the rest semester, you can goyang kaki and score d because all final are objective except five subjects.
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Ah, you means subjective questions paper, yes? As I said earlier, OUM is following the trend which already practised by most Open Unis globally, which one would include a fully Multiple Choice Question (MCQ aka full objective) paper as OUM itself already has an established Exam Question Bank.

This means learners are required to fully utilised their e-modules via self learning. And your goyang kaki statement can be disputed as when OUM has had for one time slowly changing towards fully MCQ exam papers, some learners found it is more difficult as compared to structured / essay based questions (aka subjective questions).

However this is only for certain programmes. Other subjects / modules, especially for postgraduate still maintained the structured / essay based exams. This standardisation for exams is again in line with the University's focus to streamline its assessment as per Association of Commonwealth Universities' practices that started way back in 2010 and still an ongoing process.

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post Dec 15 2017, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(langsat8 @ Dec 13 2017, 02:14 PM)
It is important to know an university culture before you enroll to its course.
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That's why one must really know the difference between flexible e-learning mode vs rigid distance learning mode (PJJ / PLK).

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Trust me if you want to learn knowledge and good guide from tutor during studying period then dun pick oum. OUM is for part time learner, as for those got job and want to upgrade their cert.


Well with more than 60K OUM grads and alumnis, their trust in OUM are not misplaced. Its just the question of personal choice. Let's the prospect decides. They might not choose OUM, but per chance they will choose WOU or AeU which also offered the same flexible e-learning modes.

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OUM basically just provide a module and exam to assess then nothing more. All your learning you got to depend on yourself because the oum tutors in tutorial and etutor from e forum is all part time.


Face to face tutors are obviously part timers. Quite a large number of them are fulltime academicians with public universities. Regarding e-tutors, there's a mix of both fulltime OUM lecturers and part-time tutors. This is e-learning platform, whereby learners ARE required to manage their self learning.

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They would not help you when you got question.


That goes both ways. As I said, you should be pro-active in airing your dissatisfaction with e-tutors or your face to face tutors. Make an appointment with your LC's Director and aired your grievances. Most OUM's LC Directors will hear their learners' plight and will try to assist, we are not like public unis with their HEP staffers with standard Govt. "tidak apa attitude."

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Their ecrm is just a platform for you to relieve your angry and frustration. I complains so many time to ecrm because the e tutor did not reply my question but nothing done by OUM. The tutor and etutor i encounter still does not help much during my studies. When i got question in studying module, I will ask in forum but no one responses
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Refer above reply.

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The e chat that OUM introduces is just a joke. I enter e chat every times but no one show up . Only few students log in e chat and even e tutor did not show up.


Every system newly introduced will have flaws. This is why documentation is very important. I regularly deal with OUM learners on daily basis and had to remind again and again, when tutors performed unsatisfactory or lackaisaidal during tutorials, filed a formal complaint to OUM's LC Director and secured an appointment beforehand. The OUM's LC Directors will often sided with the learners and take follow up action.

Regarding e-Tutors not showing up for E-Chat sessions, this is where chronological evidence is very important. Screen cap the abovesaid incidence, filed thru' E-CRM and at the same time alerted the OUM's LC Director on this issue as it affected learners. Please get your colleagues who are affected to do the same. Which means that your grievances is now aired via two channels, E-CRM and also OUM's LC Director.

From feedback we have, only a few LCs are affected while most doing OK. So make sure that you keep up with OUM's LC Director and as I said again, meet him / her up to share you POV. If these do not help much, you may email directly to Vice President (Student Affairs) Prof Dr Shaari instead.

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In conclusion, OUM only provide module and exam and you got to do all the learning on yourself and nothing provided by OUM will help you.


I beg to differ. As someone who have been with OUM for nearly a decade and gone through many e-learning revamps, from My-LMS to My-VLE to My-Inspire, OUM is one of the few institutions with extensive online support. From the days of interactive modules, video tutorials, audio tutorials and forum to e-chat, OUM has gone through massive restructuring and reforms within this couple of years to reflect the ongoing conformity with ever evolving e-learning platform.

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That is why I advice those who want to proper learning from university , dun pick OUM.


What do you mean by proper learning? Please be more specific. If you are referring to traditional conventional mode of higher learning like compulsory attendance to face to face classes, proper lecturers giving lectures and whatnot, aka rote learning, then yes, OUM / WOU / AeU is not suitable for you.

You should have chosen PJJ / PLK part time programmes offered by UiTM, UUM, UTM, USM and a large numbers of IPTAs with even much less costs. One stands to reason that should be a logical choice instead. Furthermore I even had a specific thread listing every Public Unis and ODL Unis (OUM/WOU/AeU/GlobalNxt University/MEDIU) available in Malaysia that offers part-time courses.

Information is practically a mouse click away.

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But the only thing that i feel great in OUM is that there is a module for each subjects that you took and the exam is fully from the module. That means you dun need to study extra teaching resources to score good mark.


This is because ALL OUM modules are written by Subject Matter Experts who are usually academicians from Public Unis. With the current OUM Exam Bank already established, OUM students just need to consult their e-modules and simply doe exercises as provided in the modules, or accessed past year Exam Questions through Digital Library for revision.

OUM is again is one of the very few institutions that offered a complete module for every subjects. Even Institut Perguruan Malaysia (IPG) previously used modules from OUM when they first started offering teaching degree courses.

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post Dec 15 2017, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Big_Dream @ Dec 13 2017, 11:45 PM)
Hi, I would like to ask is it possible for me to complaint about staffs from the faculty or the LC?
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Yes. It'd better if you make a formal complain via email directly to the HOD (head of department) of the particular staff so action could be taken.
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post Dec 20 2017, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(langsat8 @ Dec 15 2017, 12:21 PM)
Can you give the email address of head of department of IT? I just made a complain at ecrm and they just ask me to use tutor rating system which i already used . They just wish me good luck for the final exam. Nothing much done by them.
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Are you having problem with face to face tutor or e-tutor? If face to face tutor, you better meet your LC's Director to review the performance of that tutor. OTOH, if it involves E-Tutor, you may still needed to fill the tutor rating system OR you may contact AP Dr Nantha (Program Director for BIT) at his email: nanthakumar@oum.edu.my
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QUOTE(langsat8 @ Dec 20 2017, 11:32 PM)
Can you give Batu Pahat learning center director email? I am facing problems with both e tutor and face to face tutor because he is appointed as face to face tutor and e tutor in the same time.
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Huh? You can search from OUM's website. Here's the link:

http://www.oum.edu.my/pages/prospective/pr...batu_pahat.html
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post Dec 26 2017, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(jerry1227 @ Dec 24 2017, 11:17 PM)
study in OUM worth in MONEY? I see so many introduction in my course structure and it take 4 years just to complete a course. After 4 years, do I even guaranteed an employment?
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Waitaminute? Are you looking for part-time programme or full-time?

OUM is for working adults, not fresh SPM / STPM school leavers looking for full time study.

 

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