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 Open University Malaysia (OUM), anybody study there?need advice...

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doodle
post Apr 13 2006, 12:59 PM

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Is OUM better than the other universities offering full-time degree courses? Certainly not.

Is OUM on par with the distance learning programmes offered by the other universities? Yes, very likely.

Is OUM any good? In my humble opinion, no. If all you want is a paper qualification, then pay the fees and go for it. But if you want real education, then OUM is not where you would find it. Entry requirements are loose, and many students are incapable of simple instructions and much less, the will to learn. As a result, the pace of lessons has to be reduced to suit these indolent students. The better students often suffer in such cases. Tutors are not exactly very bright either. In subjects where tutors are hard to come by, it is a resounding yes- any Tom, Jim and Harry will do the job.
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post Apr 13 2006, 01:53 PM

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I studied there.
Not really good.
The study location for Degree programme students is bad.

The fees is high.
UiTM is cheap...better go study there.
Recognized whole Malaysia..even Certificate programme.

It's all about the money.
Oh Malaysian Government...why the fees too high?
PTPTN is high too...plus interest...arrghhh...headache.

p.s: got RM19K from PTPTN...the only debts I have.

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post Jan 1 2007, 02:16 PM

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how about their mba programme?
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all courses is awarded by malaysia goverment??
terryykf
post Sep 19 2007, 10:21 PM

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Can anyone help me?
Actually my gf plan to further her study,she only study until SPM level...now she is looking for one Uni thats got Business course but major in finance...any good Uni?(she is chinese)

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post Sep 19 2007, 10:22 PM

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u may also pm to let me know which Uni offers the course..thanks........
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post Sep 20 2007, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(doodle @ Apr 13 2006, 01:59 PM)
Is OUM better than the other universities offering full-time degree courses? Certainly not.

Is OUM on par with the distance learning programmes offered by the other universities? Yes, very likely.

Is OUM any good? In my humble opinion, no. If all you want is a paper qualification, then pay the fees and go for it. But if you want real education, then OUM is not where you would find it. Entry requirements are loose, and many students are incapable of simple instructions and much less, the will to learn. As a result, the pace of lessons has to be reduced to suit these indolent students. The better students often suffer in such cases. Tutors are not exactly very bright either. In subjects where tutors are hard to come by, it is a resounding yes- any Tom, Jim and Harry will do the job.
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Any proof to back your claim, or is it really from your experience? Don't ever overlook good working experience most OUM students have, this is one of their plus points.

In fact, a good number of professors, associate professors, and senior lecturers from my campus are teaching OUM classes as their part-time. Are these established academics "any Tom, Jim and Harry" too?

Part-time courses by other universities also impose loose entry requirements. Indolent part-time (and some full-time) students are everywhere and not only in OUM.

Most importantly, I don't think there's any such "bad university". There are only bad-performing graduates that didn't do well in their courses and can't manage to sell themselves well.

This post has been edited by average.joe: Sep 20 2007, 10:07 AM
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post Sep 20 2007, 11:49 AM

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You want proof Joe? I have been there, I know the people and I know how they run the place. No, I doubt any professors or associate professors would want to work there for the meagre salary, maybe senior lecturers yes (if they are really free in the weekends). But how many senior lecturers do you think it takes to fill up all the vacancies in all the instruction centers that they have around the country? To put it most plainly, if they have a vacancy that they have to fill in desparately, any Joe (yes, you Joe) on the street with the proper paper qualification will do. And I don't even want to begin telling you how the students tell me all the time that their tutors suck, big time.
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post Sep 20 2007, 12:17 PM

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Were you one of the students there, or a tutor?

So you doubt any higher-ranking full-time lecturers will teach OUM classes. In fact, my faculty is one of the instruction centres for OUM. The instructors are no other than well-qualified lecturers of my faculty during designated days within every month. My colleague's father, an associate professor, teaches OUM class part-time.

I myself doubt the overall teaching quality in OUM, but to say that there isn't any well-qualified instructors teaching the classes is not 100% correct either, but they are in a minority in comparison to total instructors OUM has. And as far as I know, not 100% of the class time during the semester is taught by these well-qualified lecturers. The rest will go for those less-qualified tutors you talked about, I think.

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post Sep 20 2007, 01:56 PM

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I tutored there, even helped them with some of the book editing. Want to tell me where the instruction center you mentioned is located? You will probably find better instructors if the instruction center is situated, say, within the campus of a university. But how many, among the many instruction centers that OUM manages, is nearby an established university? Btw, I have never said that _all_ the tutors are bad (read the above carefully). And no Joe, I don't think the bad ones are a minority.
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post Sep 20 2007, 04:35 PM

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USM Engineering Campus, to be clear. They got classes and even labs here.

I afraid it's you who didn't read my points carefully. I meant those BETTER lecturers for OUM classes are somehow in a minority, the rest are questionable at best. I have even pointed out that only a fraction of their time goes under these better lecturers (i.e. the ones from my campus as example), while during the larger portion of their time, they have mediocre instruction from those sub-standard tutors.

Do read my statements again.

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post Sep 20 2007, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(average.joe @ Sep 20 2007, 04:35 PM)
I afraid it's you who didn't read my points carefully.  I meant those BETTER lecturers for OUM classes are somehow in a minority, the rest are questionable at best.

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Oops, that's right. My bad. :)
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blush.gif Never thought theres a tutor that hated OUM so bad.
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post Sep 20 2007, 07:06 PM

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I don't think he/she really hates OUM, where he/she gained some experience. I believe he/she is just speaking up his/her mind based on his/her experience.
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post Sep 20 2007, 10:48 PM

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That's right. Nothing personal against OUM at all, and I am just sounding out what you don't read in the adverts so that you can better make informed decisions.
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post Oct 2 2007, 10:44 AM

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Good discussion here, maybe I can interrupt? tongue.gif

Actually I have a Diploma from Politeknik. It's Diploma in Electronic Engineering (Computer) and now I'm furthering my studies in Degree of IT at MMU Cyberjaya and now I'm in second year, got 2 more years to go.

I have problem. There's 3 semester per year in MMU and I got half loan and it covers only for 2 semesters and for the other semester my parents will pay the fees. My parents can afford it but I feel pity to them and it's hard for me to encourage myself and it towards me to think that should I work and taking degree as part time?

And if my decision is YES I'm interested in OUM courses either Degree of Education w/ Honours or Degree of IT and Managemet and I would like to know which one has better prospect for my future? Going to take it at KL campus or my hometown campus, Kota Bharu.
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post Oct 26 2007, 07:29 AM

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Me a part time student there.

It's good for working students...BIT since August 2002.

Fees were pretty high...2 subjects normally RM1,080 per semester...Bachelor programme.

Can withdraw EPF money to pay for fees.

They have various learning centre throughout Malaysia.


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Hi Cool.. smile.gif

Can i ask, are u still with OUM? When u going to graduate? Which campus are u in at the moment? I am sure u have a lot to say about OUM, I hope u can help us more on this, some of us really wanted to further study there..

Can u let us know the pro & cons if study in OUM? I already been to OUM in KL twice and a friend of my is a tutor there, i know her well, she is a good lect in 1 of the local Uni. So, my final decision is will enroll a degree courses in OUM. But before i step in would like to hear more personal experience from you as an essential reference. u can PM me or reply her...

Thanks a lot.. smile.gif

QUOTE(feynman @ Apr 9 2006, 02:46 PM)
This is not a matter of opinion, if LKS blogs about it without any proof, then it is disputable since that can be considered as a personal opinion.

But if it something official, an advert which states such admission policies, I don't think opinions have anything to do here.

The situation is like a scene in a Bruce Lee film, "Chinese and dogs are not allowed to enter". I don't think personal opinion comes in here either.
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post Oct 8 2009, 10:42 PM

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who study at OUM melaka?
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post Nov 5 2009, 08:22 AM

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Hi.

Glad there's a thread on OUM biggrin.gif

I only have finish Project 1 & Project 2 in order to grad.

Need to find a supervisor for my projects.

Anyone here know how to look for a supervisor?




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