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tryifelsecatch
post Apr 11 2017, 07:34 PM

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hi good day guys.
so i was going to ambank today for FD placement for my mom and was recomended by the bank manager to invest in "Eastspring Investments Target Income 6" instead of FD.

i have no experience in buying fund, UT, just have a few FD.
just want to learn from fellow friends here if this is not too risky since it's bond fund? last thing i want is to screw up with my mom FD smile.gif
i know the fund it's now in the 6th series and base on the previous result it's definitely better than FD return. ~5% vs ~3%

your advice, feedback is appreciated.
tryifelsecatch
post Apr 11 2017, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 11 2017, 07:49 PM)
I googled and found this....
http://www.eastspringinvestments.com.my/?r...ageid=1&fn=E064

and
http://www.eastspringinvestments.com.my/do...d%206%20PHS.pdf

then from there....stated....
5 yrs locking period.
there is a initial sales charge of 3%
early termination /withdrawal will be another 3%
and a list of risk in this product....

then you can try this too....
suitability assessment questionaires...
http://www.eastspringinvestments.com.my/do..._Individual.pdf

hmm.gif did that bank Manager explains the risks, the charges, early redemption penalty and etc, etc to you or ask you to try the suitability assessment questionaires?
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thanks for reply, yea i did some googling and got the same info you provided.
yeap, the bank manager did mentioned about the 3% penalty if sell within the 5 years lock in.
the manager emphasized this is like once a year opportunity compare to FD options and we should consider and take this.

but 1 thing i don't quite understand is... this is a product from Prudential (eastspring investment), what are the benefit buying through the bank? vs buying from prudential?
i ask that question and the manager said buy from bank safer because a bank is a bank while prudential is an insurance company afterall.. i am not sure about this part.
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post Apr 11 2017, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Apr 11 2017, 09:30 PM)
Wow, this bank manager is unbelievable. Why don't you ask him, if he say it's safer to buy from the bank than the issuer, does that mean that the bank will pay him back east spring investment or the fund close shop?

Ultimately I think the crucial thing that he might not have covered or emphasized is, buying unit trust vs fixed deposit has a fundamental difference. Unit trust may show you indicative returns of 5% or more, but it's not capital guaranteed. You might end up earning 0% and even lose some of your capital. Yes, less likely for bond fund, but it can happen. Just in last November most of the local bond funds a few %. They r back in the black now, annualized return is lower compared to say a year ago. Whereas fixed deposit as everyone knows, is capital guaranteed and PIDM insured for certain amount.

That small risk there is the reason why the indicative return is higher. No one can help you decide if that's a risk worth taking. If you do decide that you can stomach that risk, there r lots of bond funds that has less sales charge and no early redemption penalty for you to choose from. Getting 5% is not difficult at all
You can start here actually
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...arch-2017--8077
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thanks for your input dude. yeah... it appears to me he is trying a bit too hard to sell this. i said so because we identified clearly we are coming for the 4.35% 5 years FD. but through out the 20mins talk, he just push down FD and end of talk also never talk about the FD which is a promotion from the bank until end of Apr.

now i need to make a decision in helping my mom with her FD, i was thinking maybe a 70:30 ratio of FD:Fund. if we were to buy bond, money market fund.. and we have no experience and llimited knowledge about fund. what is the advice for us to buy fund? i understand there will be charge to find an agent, so which agencie, bank do you guys recomend? thanks again!
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post Apr 11 2017, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Apr 11 2017, 10:03 PM)
The site from link I attach is where you can get everything done. You don't need agent or bank actually. The site doesn't charge sales charge and only charges 0.2% platform fees for using their platform. If you prefer to talk to someone they have client investment specialists who can explain to you investment strategy n all too

The truth is, you may have difficulty finding agent or banker who would sell you just bond funds since commission is lower for them. Most likely they would try to convince you to buy some equity fund so they make more
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thanks a lot for the input. i am probably start off trying their portfolio simulator

 

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