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j.passing.by
post Jul 8 2014, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 8 2014, 10:54 AM)
What is loading fee? Is referring to upfront charging of service fee right?
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Front loading, service charge, service fee, entrance charge, commission... all the same thing.

Only difference to be aware of is the "exit fee" - which some funds have.


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post Jul 8 2014, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 8 2014, 01:39 PM)
KGF charges 5.5%, CIMB Dali charges 6.5%.

Not sure what this is and if it can be discounted?
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Yes, with the 2 online platforms that were mentioned in the other thread. Pay the full charges if you want a pretty face and personal service.


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post Jul 8 2014, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 8 2014, 01:55 PM)
Sorry im a bit confused.

1) Whats the difference between the front loading fee and sales charge?  Same thing.
2) What does FSM and UTC's charge for each? Usually 2%. Even less when there's promotion for a short period. See their websites...
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post Jul 8 2014, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 8 2014, 01:47 PM)
I think you can get discounted SC if you purchase CIMB DALI from CIMBClicks.

For KGF, you may have only FSM and eUT. I'm not sure if CIMBClicks has KGF or not since CIMB also distributes funds from other fund houses.
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post Jul 8 2014, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 8 2014, 02:08 PM)
So meaning that for say a 100K investment, if i go through a unit trust agent, i need to pay Rm 5,500 for KGF but if i use FSM, i pay max RM2K only?
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Yes....read a bit more and learn to pick up some technical stuff on our own... then take own advice and counsel.

BTW. "Buying" is only the beginning... just as important is the selling part and building a portfolio of several funds - which no UTC (unit trust counsellor) can provide, since they are not licensed financial advisors.


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post Jun 1 2015, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(Junrave @ May 28 2015, 08:39 AM)
The attached link only shows the concept of compounding interest, but it did not exhibit how investing unit trust can be benefited from it. Since the value of unit trust fund is primarily affected by fluctuation of price and unit held for the fund. Lets put it this way, if i bought at rm1.00 per share for RM1000, and the price increase to rm1.20 at next year (earning become RM1200), and drop to rm0.90 at the third year, then the value of fund at the third year will be (price x unit held = RM900. (Correct me if I am wrong). Therefore, I am experiencing loss in this scenario.


But if I got consistent annual return of 10% for example, then it increase NAV yearly and compound interest shall apply in this case, however, since the performance data which figure % pa shown is annualized (fund price could experience 1 year high and 1 year low), then the application of compounding will be ambiguous.

Need sifus to clarify this for me. thanks
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Compounding interest or compound interest simply means "interest on interest".

You will get compounded interest when you don't take out the interest, and let it remain together with the principal.

Similarly, you will get CAGR (compound annual growth rate) when you do not take out any growth in the unit trust. (CAGR is also known as the annualized rate.)

When you take out the interest, it is called "simple interest". For example, RM1000 at a consistent 10% p.a. for 10 years, you will get 100% growth, when interest or growth is taken out every year.

But, if the growth is NOT taken out, and if we still get 100% in 10 years, then the annualized rate can be calculated; and it is 7.2% p.a. (Please google the formula on how to calculate the compounded or annualized rate.)

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In your above examples, they have nothing to do with compounding interest or annualized growth; just some examples of random growth rate in each year and how they will affect the investment differently.

What matters, to the investor, is the growth at the end of the invested period. Then the compounding interest or annualized rate can be calculated.

Of course, what happen to the fund at each particular year matters too, as you have shown in your above examples. If the fund goes negative in the current year, it will have to crawl much harder, and at a much higher rate of growth to not only recover the lost, but to also provide a positive growth the following year or years.


 

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