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WhitE LighteR
post Oct 4 2020, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(Neontetra @ Oct 4 2020, 08:23 AM)
Hi guys, my parents has some retirement money to keep stashed away for any length of time as they have enough money to get by. This is a about $200k. Any suggestion of funds that will be suitable for them? Low risk ideally in case stock market crashes again.

Or are they better of sticking to FD? Citibank's banker told us about Affin Hwang Select Bond Fund. I am also looking at 2.45% FD from RHB Bank.

Thanks.
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AHSB fund do fluctuate when there is a shock in equity market. It's not like FD. If u put in here make sure it's for medium to long term.
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post Oct 21 2020, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(WHITE APPLE @ Oct 21 2020, 04:42 PM)
Hi all, would like to seek for advice based on my understanding from my research online. As everyone knows that the FD is so low atm, I have narrow down the alternative investment vehicle that interests me but im not too sure about my findings. My objective of investment is for mid to long term, at least 5 years and above.

PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong as I'm new to investment

Unit Trust via FSM
A fund that managed by the fund manager to invest in multiples companies shares. The benefits is that able to diversified the risk instead of holding only one company share.
The main game plan of UT is capital appreciation. Search for potential fund that will grow in the future, buy low sell high.

Fee involved
Sales Charges (0%-1.75%)
Annual Management Fee (1.8% +-)

Stock Market (KLSE)
The game plan is capital gain + Dividends. Will search for blue chips stock to invest in long term, collecting dividends while hoping for appreciation. I saw some bloggers are using this way to achieve financial freedom (annual dividend received is equal or more than annual expenses)

Fee involved Maybank Platform
Brokerage fee 0.1% or rm8
Stamping Rm1 per Rm1000

my banking RM also also recommended to invest ins TA Asia Absolute Alpha fund which focus in Asia Equities but the sales charges is 2.7% which I feels that is kinda high. Based on my investment objective, I'm more kind to ride on the stock market vehicle as I can both side of the world, capital gain + dividends ( provided I've invested in the right stocks). Besides, investing in stock market also involving  lower sales fee (brokerage)

so my questions are
1) did I miss out any fee involved in both vehicles?
2) did I set the game plan correctly?

TIA
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FSM u only need to care the sales fee n if any redemption fees. Other fees is all already calculated in the fund NAV. U no need pay extra.

WhitE LighteR
post Dec 1 2020, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(izzudrecoba @ Dec 1 2020, 02:42 PM)
Walawei. Precious Metals Securities rose by 13% on 30 November 2020  shocking.gif
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30th nov price already come out meh? as of the moment i click still 27th nov price. where u see the 13%?
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post Dec 20 2020, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(chikuera @ Dec 20 2020, 01:00 PM)
Hi all,

I have extra RM1.5k not used in my bank account. not every month, but these like extra cash I have.

Should I keep as emergency fund or invest it somewhere else? Thinking of doing kijang emas gold account in maybank.

I already have asnb loan (100k)
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Usually keep around 6 month of emergency cash if possible. Either in FD or low risk money market funds. For someone more experience in investing, they can sometimes find something better but carry higher risk too usually.
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post Dec 21 2020, 07:00 PM

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it really depends on individual situation. in my case, emergency fund is cash on hand which is about 1 month spending worth. i consider credit card as stop gap measure where ever possible like in hospital for example that accepts credit. this way i am able to park my extra funds in a more higher risk investment that i can still access within 1 week time. this is an acceptable compromise for me. but then for this to work u will need to have a high limit credit card in hand.
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post Dec 21 2020, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Dec 21 2020, 09:19 PM)
May I know what important issue to take note when deciding to sell the unit trust?

Since the fund price is unknown until the closing of the day then we only can agak-agak now whether it is in uptrend or downtrend based on previous few day price trend, am I right?
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I will sell once I fund the fund underperforming relative to it's peers.
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post Dec 22 2020, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(zeronuker @ Dec 22 2020, 09:08 AM)
Good Morning Everyone,

Can someone help me out?

I was looking through my portfolio in EPF's i-Invest and noticed a fund was missing in my accounts holding page. Specifically the "Eastspring Investments Dinasti Equity Fund"

When i log into myeastspring website, its still there and so is my investment.

Wondering why isnt this fund and the investment not showing up in my i-Invest account? Even in my watchlist it doesnt list this fund as a holding fund.
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Yes. Same for me. Weird

QUOTE(rocketm @ Dec 22 2020, 09:08 AM)
May I know how to know the fund is underperforming than its peers?

Is peers means fund that has the same top 5 companies in the latest monthly product sheet?
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I define it as fund that compete in the same sector. Greater china vs greater china fund for example.
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post Dec 22 2020, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Dec 22 2020, 09:46 AM)
I can see mine there:

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Epf apps.
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post Dec 22 2020, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(zeronuker @ Dec 22 2020, 12:04 PM)
I still cant see mine. In the web nor in the app

FYI, I cant see only 1 of my fund, the "Eastspring Investments Dinasti Equity Fund". The others can see.
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Ya same. It's missing in both for me as well.
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post Dec 22 2020, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(zeronuker @ Dec 22 2020, 03:11 PM)
Should we be worried?
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I can still see it in fsm. So I don't think it's gone. Just epf system gone mad I think.
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post Jan 29 2021, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jan 29 2021, 10:14 AM)
Demand for unit trust remains high

A unit trust agent is a person you would have encountered at least once.

There are hundreds of them in the country trying to tell you about the potential returns you can make when investing in unit trust (UT) only if you are willing to part with an initial sum of money.

Of course there are some sad cases of people losing money from investing in UT. But equally many have gained from such investments.

The unit trust industry in Malaysia dates back to 1959. In the 1980s, the ever popular Skim Amanah Saham Nasional was launched with 11 funds and the response has been overwhelming ever since.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...st-remains-high
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of course in demand, coz there is no other alternative easily accessable to the general public. malaysia investment industry damn scared of competition.

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post Jan 29 2021, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jan 29 2021, 01:13 PM)
to Gov, all of us need to be "protected from our own stupidity"
thanks to ppl mis-selling +ppl too lazy to read/think and same ppl complaining to Gov / EPF when some of their investment (or worse all-in) go tits-up.
negative feedback loop until even TD Ameritrade is on Sus! list of BNM. Dang changgih man... sigh..
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I can see ur point.

But I believe, kiasu ppl will always be around in asia. It's ingrained into the culture. Need to ignore all this type ppl n move forward. Kiasu ppl are followers, not leaders.
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post May 5 2022, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ May 3 2022, 10:04 AM)
Hmm... so lots of fortunes amassed, I guess? laugh.gif

Did you have a chance to speak to the fund managers themselves and have a glimpse of their strategies and holdings?

In any case, just make sure you don't put all your money/wealth in it.
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most hedge fund dont disclose their strategy. some times they will share their allocation but usually that it. they are not require to disclose this type of information unlike unit trust or etf
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post May 5 2022, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(rebeka @ May 3 2022, 04:30 PM)
They actually outperform the top investment fund in USA...

They also organise yearly client seminar where we could meet the find managers on their investment strategy with Q&A session ...
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hasnt been any siminar since covid. the founder expanded into robo advisor in malaysia thru a subsidiary here.
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post May 5 2022, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ May 5 2022, 09:56 PM)
What if you are a very big client (e.g. akin to a family office)? Still no special treatment? tongue.gif
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probably if is really big, they will try to cater them better thru some private consultation. its not like they have that many layers also. so getting thru to the fund manager is not that difficult. jst see if he wan to layan u or not only. the amount u bring must be damn damn big i guess. hahaha.
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post May 5 2022, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ May 5 2022, 10:05 PM)
I see. You sound like an insider in the fund management industry. tongue.gif

And no, I am not that rich.  laugh.gif  Just curious to learn more about the "dark" high finance world.
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its not dark la. its jst for ppl with money to invest. actual "sophisticated" investor instead of the self declared one like in FSM or whatever... laugh.gif

coz for those type of ppl, a consistent return is better than beating the market performance. anyway the entry level isnt as much as one would think. a season investor in his 40's should easily have such amount to allocate some to such strategy

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QUOTE(immobile @ Jul 23 2022, 05:01 PM)
Hi there sifus, anyone heard of CP Global fund? it's singapore based asset management. Would like to hear some insight or opinions about it if anyone ventured into it before. tqtq
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It's a Singapore based hedge fund. Not really advertise in Malaysia n Singapore coz they are not allowed to. It's a more niche offering for sophisticated investor. We can talk more in PM if u have any specific questions.

 

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