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post Nov 24 2012, 10:18 AM

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Thanks Dave rclxms.gif
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post Nov 26 2012, 04:25 PM

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Intra switching with FSM is free biggrin.gif

Only last week I switched out all my holdings in Eastspring Investments Global Leaders MY Fund, which invests in global "leading" companies and overweight US and Japan. The fund has been underperforming for a few years already, and the expense ratio has been quite high. Bad timing, turns out that US equities still got some upside to go. doh.gif

Half went to Eastspring Investments GEM Fund and half to Eastspring Investments Equity Income Fund (a Malaysia dividend fund, one of the better equity fund, losing out only to Kenanga Growth, AMB Dividend, Hwang Select Dividend and Hwang Select Opportunity).

Aiming Pacific Global Stars Fund next to boost up my global equities exposure. icon_idea.gif


Added on November 26, 2012, 4:28 pm
QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Nov 26 2012, 02:19 PM)
wow i notice that china's unit trust fund is on the rise while our local unit trust fund is on going down. any tot?
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Shanghai and Hang Seng indexes has been strong lately.

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Nov 26 2012, 04:28 PM
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post Nov 26 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Nov 26 2012, 04:41 PM)
you got china unit trust fund or not now? should we switch from local to china fund? biggrin.gif
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AFAIK, under FSM, only OSK-UOB charges switching fee, the rest are all free. Please go FSM website to find out more details.

I got no China fund, but I got a GEM equities fund which has heavy exposure to HK/China.

For long-term growth, yes I do think that now is quite a good time to start accumulating funds investing in China. But Hang Seng index has been strong lately, so u have to find out whether the fund(s) invest in China stocks listed in HK, or Shanghai-listed stocks. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 26 2012, 04:47 PM

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KLCI still on downtrend even though Asian markets are going strong. No wonder many say that KLCI is a rigged market. doh.gif laugh.gif

If it drops below 1,600, I might be topping up on my Malaysian dividend fund. hmm.gif
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post Nov 26 2012, 05:08 PM

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Malaysian equities has always been seen as a relative "safe haven", guess the reason for the recent selling pressure must be because investors are going "risk-on", selling Malaysian equities to move to riskier markets. hmm.gif
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post Nov 26 2012, 05:21 PM

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1. Large domestic institutional investor participation (EPF, PNB, LTAT etc)
2. Relatively high dividend yield
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post Nov 26 2012, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(hafiez @ Nov 26 2012, 09:40 PM)
im on ready list to go back into equity. maybe tomorrow or lusa.
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Which fund? Kenanga Growth?
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post Nov 27 2012, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(hafiez @ Nov 27 2012, 12:49 AM)
Nope.
CIMB DALI equity growth. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Last nite weaknessat US and Europe, I have a feeling today it will breach the 1,600 resistance brows.gif
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post Nov 27 2012, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Nov 27 2012, 08:12 AM)
alamak.. end month. No money to top up if going down below 1600
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1,603 now icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 27 2012, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Nov 27 2012, 10:17 AM)
Aiyoyo... if keep going like this, I can say all my funds IRR will be going to be lower than FD 3.0%pa la... sad.gif
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Dah lah panggil u diversify...Emerging Markets Bond, Global Equity, Asia Ex-Japan Equity icon_idea.gif

AmAsia Pacific REITs doing well, no? unsure.gif
OSK-UOB EM Bond Fund also giving me IRR 7-8% p.a.
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post Nov 27 2012, 10:28 AM

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Hwang Asia Quantum Fund IRR is in double digits territory biggrin.gif
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post Nov 28 2012, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Nov 27 2012, 09:36 PM)
anyone still got wongmunkeong's xls file on how to calculate IRR?
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This will help: icon_rolleyes.gif

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/excel-he...P005209341.aspx
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QUOTE(renomael @ Nov 28 2012, 03:12 PM)
Gurus, any comment on Hwang Select Income Fund ?

I saw their performance is quite consistent over the year. Any fund holder here ?
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Invested since 2008, my IRR (after including 3% SC) = 10.6%

Very low volatility
A fund for all seasons. thumbup.gif
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post Nov 28 2012, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Nov 28 2012, 08:47 PM)
Hi Pink Spider,

I've seen this article before i post the query. Not too sure how to calc XIRR in terms of unit trust investment.

Let's say i have RSP of RM1000 every month. At the end of the year, the value of my unit trust is 15,000. So how do i calculate XIRR?
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Let's use an example...

01-Jan-12 invest RM500

Assuming SC of 2%, u will be getting only RM490.20 worth of units. But for the purpose of calculating IRR, I'd prefer to use CASH FLOWS, in this case I'd use RM500 instead of RM490.20. Thus, our IRR calculation would be on cash flows basis, which will be very different to the Fund Fact Sheet returns. Understand? icon_idea.gif

07-Feb-12 invest RM300
08-May-12 invest RM400
14-Sep-12 invest RM250
27-Nov-12 value: RM1,567

A B
1 01-Jan-12 -RM500
2 07-Feb-12 -RM300
3 08-May-12 -RM400
4 14-Sep-12 -RM250
5 27-Nov-12 RM1,567

=XIRR(Value Range,Date Range)
=XIRR(B1:B5,A1:A5)
=12.25%

When u invest, it's a cash OUTFLOW, thus negative value.

Just put the dates of purchase in 1 column, with the amounts in next column. Value and date of valuation on the same columns but lowest row within the range.

Got it? icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Nov 30 2012, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Nov 30 2012, 07:28 PM)
Based on my overall portfolio, I would go for Asia Quantum as it has more out of MY exposure. Their MY exposure Is approx 40%. I got too many MY funds. Select opportunity is 60% MY focus for now.
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If u include the cash holdings, Select Opportunity Fund can never hold >30% in offshore investments, as it is EPF-approved. As most of us should know, EPF-approved funds can invest offshore up to 30% only.

Asia Quantum is a small-mid cap equity fund, and HwangIM has proven itself as an able stock-picker.
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post Dec 1 2012, 12:16 AM

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Steady lar...even if it really did dropped 1%, will u have to sell your home and pawn your car because of it? doh.gif
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post Dec 1 2012, 12:28 AM

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Investing is for long-term...u are not trading...

What goes up must come down, and vice versa
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post Dec 1 2012, 05:50 PM

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Looking at the historical distribution trend, unlikely to be the case.

AmDynamic Bond August 6, 2012 August 6, 2012 0.020005 Dividend Payout
AmDynamic Bond March 12, 2012 March 12, 2012 0.020009 Dividend Payout
AmDynamic Bond August 1, 2011 August 19, 2011 0.020052 Dividend Payout
AmDynamic Bond February 16, 2011 March 7, 2011 0.020031 Dividend Payout
AmDynamic Bond August 3, 2010 - 0.02 Dividend Payout
AmDynamic Bond January 12, 2010 - 0.02 Dividend Payout
AmDynamic Bond July 16, 2009 - 0.040021 Dividend Payout
AmDynamic Bond August 20, 2008 - 0.02 Dividend Payout
AmDynamic Bond February 20, 2008 - 0.02 Dividend Payout
AmDynamic Bond August 17, 2007 - 0.02 Dividend Payout
AmDynamic Bond February 22, 2007 - 0.02 Dividend Payout
AmDynamic Bond July 11, 2006 - 0.02 Dividend Payout
AmDynamic Bond February 8, 2006 - 0.02 Dividend Payout
AmDynamic Bond July 28, 2005 - 0.04 Dividend Payout


Added on December 1, 2012, 5:54 pmAmIncome Plus, a short-dated bond fund also kena, but just by 0.06%. AmIncome Plus rarely drops, there must be something happening in the bond market.

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post Dec 1 2012, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 1 2012, 05:56 PM)
Ya unlikely... My overall total portfolio XIRR drop 1.2% due to AmDynamic drop.
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Mine from 5% dropped to 4.67% because of that drop tongue.gif
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post Dec 2 2012, 02:41 PM

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Let's see how my other bond fund, OSK-UOB Income Fund fares when its 30-Nov-12 NAV is published tomorrow. Then we'll be able to see whether its the bond market or just AmInvestment's holdings.

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