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post Jan 3 2013, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jan 3 2013, 10:26 PM)
how the calculation work ?
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03 January 2013 1.1674 N/A N/A 0.0001 Up 0.01
02 January 2013 1.1673 N/A N/A -0.0546 Down -4.47

Annually
2012
December
5.50
2011
December
4.10
2010
December
3.76
2009
December
4.60
2008
December
5.55
2007
December
3.00

from http://www.cimb-principal.com.my/cimbFunds..._Bond_Fund.aspx

Not sure if they pay cash or automatically reinvested, I purchased a little bit via cimb clicks..

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post Jan 3 2013, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(ctrl_alt_del @ Jan 3 2013, 10:30 PM)
03 January 2013  1.1674  N/A  N/A  0.0001  Up  0.01
02 January 2013  1.1673  N/A  N/A  -0.0546  Down  -4.47

Annually
2012
December
5.50
2011
December
4.10
2010
December
3.76
2009
December
4.60
2008
December
5.55
2007
December
3.00

from http://www.cimb-principal.com.my/cimbFunds..._Bond_Fund.aspx

Not sure if they pay cash or automatically reinvested, I purchased a little bit via cimb clicks..
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what do you think of this fund ? i'd never bought any cimb fund how much is the sc via cimb clicks ?
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post Jan 3 2013, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jan 3 2013, 10:40 PM)
what do you think of this fund ? i'd never bought any cimb fund how much is the sc via cimb clicks ?
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It's more like temporary parking for me, charges is 1.5% but u get FOC switching. So if u intended to invest in bond fund only, then i'd say not worth it.
(other alternatives - ambond, if u're using cimb clicks)

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post Jan 3 2013, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(ctrl_alt_del @ Jan 3 2013, 10:48 PM)
It's more like temporary parking for me, charges is 1.5% but u get FOC switching. So if u intended to invest in bond fund only, then i'd say not worth it.
(other alternatives - ambond, if u're using cimb clicks)
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Bond fund charges 1.5% SC! That's expensive!
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post Jan 3 2013, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 3 2013, 10:56 PM)
Bond fund charges 1.5% SC! That's expensive!
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Yes.

For a global bond fund like Hwang Select Bond or Asian bond fund like RHB Asian Total Return, still acceptable.

But for a Malaysian bond fund...hell no. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 3 2013, 10:58 PM)
Yes.

For a global bond fund like Hwang Select Bond or Asian bond fund like RHB Asian Total Return, still acceptable.

But for a Malaysian bond fund...hell no. shakehead.gif
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Totally with you, bro!
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post Jan 3 2013, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 3 2013, 10:58 PM)
Yes.

For a global bond fund like Hwang Select Bond or Asian bond fund like RHB Asian Total Return, still acceptable.

But for a Malaysian bond fund...hell no. shakehead.gif
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Like I said, it depends on the purpose of having such fund, Eg if you intended to park & waiting to switch to their equities, that's fine. since their equities & bonds are all 1.5%.
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post Jan 3 2013, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 3 2013, 10:58 PM)
Yes.

For a global bond fund like Hwang Select Bond or Asian bond fund like RHB Asian Total Return, still acceptable.

But for a Malaysian bond fund...hell no. shakehead.gif
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I wish we can do Vanguard series easily here sigh.. (BTW, i did poke Vanguard's SG arm but they flatly turned me away)
From one of the audiobooks i "read", Vanguard's sales charges AND annual mgt fees are low (usually 0% and 0.4%pa respectively).
In addition, whatever funds Vanguard has, each fund owns a piece of Vanguard itself.
Thus, whatever Vanguard the company makes off its clients, its clients actually get back some (less business running costs lar).
Dunno still true or not lar these days - the audio book was a few years old and if i'm not mistaken, from the book "Four Pillars of Investing".

Cool or what?
Imagine PM doing that, the 5.5% or % SC and 1.x% annual mgt fees, partially goes back to fund holders coz PM's shares are incorporated into every fund PM sells.

Sigh...

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post Jan 3 2013, 11:30 PM

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thanks for sharing bro
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post Jan 3 2013, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 3 2013, 08:48 PM)
Just updated my portfolio valuation for yesterday...

Equities went crazy, especially Hwang Asia Quantum shocking.gif
But OSK-UOB EM Bond went kaboom doh.gif

Luckily, equities rallied so hard that it more than covered the fall in EM bond  tongue.gif
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What did I missed on HwangAQ? You mean the fluctuation of NAV between Dec 27,28 and 31st?
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jan 3 2013, 11:40 PM)
What did I missed on HwangAQ? You mean the fluctuation of NAV between Dec 27,28 and 31st?
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NAV movement from 31-Dec to 02-Jan
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post Jan 3 2013, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 3 2013, 11:42 PM)
NAV movement from 31-Dec to 02-Jan
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Ahh, just checked cause it's not yet updated FSM which you already knew smile.gif

+1.25% - what's the rational behind it?
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jan 3 2013, 11:49 PM)
Ahh, just checked cause it's not yet updated FSM which you already knew smile.gif

+1.25% - what's the rational behind it?
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Hwang funds' NAV I usually source direct from HwangIM website http://hwangim.com/products/dailyfunds icon_rolleyes.gif

I'd guess that its the rally in HK small-mid caps
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post Jan 4 2013, 03:35 PM

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It took me like approx 10 days for me to be in BLACK for Hwang AQ.

If for PM funds, it takes ages due to the 5.5% sc...
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 3 2013, 11:52 PM)
Hwang funds' NAV I usually source direct from HwangIM website http://hwangim.com/products/dailyfunds icon_rolleyes.gif

I'd guess that its the rally in HK small-mid caps
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+0.75%

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post Jan 4 2013, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 4 2013, 03:35 PM)
It took me like approx 10 days for me to be in BLACK for Hwang AQ.

If for PM funds, it takes ages due to the 5.5% sc...
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Low SC and most importantly current promotional 1.0%. Did you get some unit bro before the promotion end
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post Jan 5 2013, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jan 5 2013, 12:43 AM)
Low SC and most importantly current promotional 1.0%. Did you get some unit bro before the promotion end
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planning to get some on 26-Jan, the sc that day is 0.5%
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 5 2013, 12:05 AM)
planning to get some on 26-Jan, the sc that day is 0.5%
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0.5% but if the NAV price is high, then most probably I won't go for it.
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post Jan 5 2013, 08:22 AM

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I won't for 0.5% if I think the market has went up too fast, too soon.

2% - 0.5% = 1.5%

A bad week will wipe it all off doh.gif
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post Jan 5 2013, 08:28 AM

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0.5% SC is applicable for II only? AI also entitled?

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