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post Dec 15 2012, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(mois @ Dec 15 2012, 09:59 AM)
How on earth this RHb islamic earn 9% in a month? Did they manage to recover the loss back then?
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Write back of impaired investments.
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post Dec 15 2012, 10:47 AM

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post Dec 16 2012, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 15 2012, 10:05 AM)
Write back of impaired investments.
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Meaning ?
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 16 2012, 05:37 PM)
Meaning ?
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Sorry I used an accounting/finance term tongue.gif

Let me put it in simple language...

RHB decides that ABC Bond may be irrecoverable becos ABC may be bankrupt or having cash flow problem
RHB will write off ABC Bond
Subsequently situation at ABC changed, RHB may write back the value of ABC Bond
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post Dec 16 2012, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 16 2012, 05:47 PM)
Sorry I used an accounting/finance term tongue.gif

Let me put it in simple language...

RHB decides that ABC Bond may be irrecoverable becos ABC may be bankrupt or having cash flow problem
RHB will write off ABC Bond
Subsequently situation at ABC changed, RHB may write back the value of ABC Bond
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thanks for the explanation.

can you please direct to the point for this RHB Islamic Bond Fund, i believe everyone following this thread would like to know more about it.
your simple language ABC bond referring to RHB Islamic Bond Fund ?


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post Dec 16 2012, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 16 2012, 07:25 PM)
thanks for the explanation.

can you please direct to the point for this RHB Islamic Bond Fund, i believe everyone following this thread would like to know more about it.
your simple language ABC bond referring to RHB Islamic Bond Fund ?
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haha...


Added on December 16, 2012, 7:11 pmNext week do you guys thing Asian market will fall a bit? tongue.gif

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post Dec 16 2012, 07:21 PM

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haha...


Added on December 16, 2012, 7:11 pmNext week do you guys thing Asian market will fall a bit? tongue.gif
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why you think so bro ?

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 16 2012, 06:25 PM)
thanks for the explanation.

can you please direct to the point for this RHB Islamic Bond Fund, i believe everyone following this thread would like to know more about it.
your simple language ABC bond referring to RHB Islamic Bond Fund ?
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RHB is the fund manager for RHB Islamic Bond Fund
They bought dunno what bond, and that bond was impaired due to doubts over its recoverability (the company which issue the bond had cash flow issues if I'm not mistaken)
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 16 2012, 07:38 PM)
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RHB is the fund manager for RHB Islamic Bond Fund
They bought dunno what bond, and that bond was impaired due to doubts over its recoverability (the company which issue the bond had cash flow issues if I'm not mistaken)
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hmm.gif of course RHB is the fund manager for RHB islamic bond fund. straight to the point bro, some of us neither account nor finance background, that is why we are here to learn n share knowledge. i wonder from where you get the info ?
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post Dec 16 2012, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 16 2012, 08:21 PM)
why you think so bro ?
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I am not thinking bro.. I am just hoping.. tongue.gif


Added on December 16, 2012, 9:43 pm
QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 16 2012, 08:54 PM)
hmm.gif  of course RHB is the fund manager for RHB islamic bond fund. straight to the point bro, some of us neither account nor finance background, that is why we are here to learn n share knowledge. i wonder from where you get the info ?
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There had been a short discussion last time on why this RHB bond fund suddenly drop alot..

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post Dec 16 2012, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 16 2012, 07:54 PM)
hmm.gif  of course RHB is the fund manager for RHB islamic bond fund. straight to the point bro, some of us neither account nor finance background, that is why we are here to learn n share knowledge. i wonder from where you get the info ?
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I was never interested in that fund, why would I remember the details shakehead.gif

FSM did a write-up on that fund before to explain the drop of NAV back then
So, the recent spike in NAV should be writeback of the impaired bond it held
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 16 2012, 09:49 PM)
I was never interested in that fund, why would I remember the details shakehead.gif

FSM did a write-up on that fund before to explain the drop of NAV back then
So, the recent spike in NAV should be writeback of the impaired bond it held
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I see. Okay thanks
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 16 2012, 10:42 PM)
I see. Okay thanks
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tips - look for a bond fund with massive drop of NAV

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 16 2012, 10:52 PM)
tips - look for a bond fund with massive drop of NAV

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seriously ? what is good about bond fund ya ?
I'm having 9 fund all equity.
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 16 2012, 11:56 PM)
seriously ? what is good about bond fund ya ?
I'm having 9 fund all equity.
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Hehe.. need some diversification bro..
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 16 2012, 11:00 PM)
Hehe.. need some diversification bro..
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how bout your current holding ? more on bond fund ?
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 17 2012, 12:02 AM)
how bout your current holding ? more on bond fund ?
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Ya.. too much overweight on bond now. This is due to previous AmDynamic closing, so I dump more into it..
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 16 2012, 07:38 PM)
doh.gif

RHB is the fund manager for RHB Islamic Bond Fund
They bought dunno what bond, and that bond was impaired due to doubts over its recoverability (the company which issue the bond had cash flow issues if I'm not mistaken)
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it was TRACOMA bond. i was hit hard that time, sold them away when it was about breaking even (earn some)..and now, it's recovered.. doh.gif talking bout twice bitten vmad.gif


Added on December 16, 2012, 11:14 pm
QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 16 2012, 11:08 PM)
Ya.. too much overweight on bond now. This is due to previous AmDynamic closing, so I dump more into it..
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i'm too on bond, 100% .. most weight age on PBIBF (public bank islamic bond fund)..DDI/month. yeah, yield's dropping..but oh well..

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post Dec 16 2012, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 16 2012, 11:08 PM)
Ya.. too much overweight on bond now. This is due to previous AmDynamic closing, so I dump more into it..
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so your am dynamic bond any good news ?
bond not volatile as equity and more aggressive


Added on December 16, 2012, 11:17 pm
QUOTE(kucingfight @ Dec 16 2012, 11:10 PM)
it was TRACOMA bond. i was hit hard that time, sold them away when it was about breaking even (earn some)..and now, it's recovered..  doh.gif  talking bout twice bitten  vmad.gif


Added on December 16, 2012, 11:14 pm

i'm too on bond, 100% .. most weight age on PBIBF (public bank islamic bond fund)..DDI/month. yeah, yield's dropping..but oh well..
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so is TRACOMA bond.

btw do you mean your fund allocation 100% on Bond ? what advantages on bond ?

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post Dec 16 2012, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 17 2012, 12:15 AM)
so your am dynamic bond any good news ?
bond not volatile as equity and more aggressive


Added on December 16, 2012, 11:17 pm

so is TRACOMA bond.

btw do you mean your fund allocation 100% on Bond ? what advantages on bond ?
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Bro.. not sure what you mean by more aggresive?!!

AmDynamic not much good news, hhaha.. yield has been dropping. But still alot better than FD.

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