As per topic, is tat any way to differentiate muslin name which is 1st and which is last?
i'm Chinese, but helping some of my Malay colleague to register thing, some of their name is very long i not sure which is 1st which is last, any guidance is appreciate thx

This post has been edited by ragk: Nov 23 2012, 02:33 PM

i don't think malay have the 1st name last name concept.. it should be "my name" and "my bapak name" .. which "my name" can consist of 1, 2, 3 or more

hmmm so how do Malay usually fill in the 1st and last name column in registration form?

Imagine the Americans are still calling Osama bin Laden as bin Laden!

This post has been edited by ricstc: Nov 23 2012, 02:50 PM

if u know his/her bapak name, the one not same is his/her name

haha, when first time they said "bin Laden"....wata hell "bin Laden" is that???

I think after the bin/binti is surname (father name), like our indian friend, anak lelaki AL/AP....

so his/her name could be in front or behind based on diff ppl?
let say "X mat Y", X and Y could possible to be his/her name too?

Ya the kwai low until now still don't understand this Muslim/Malay first second name thing so you are forgiven to be confused.

But imagine, calling bin Laden instead of Osama for 10s of year without anyone in the world correcting them. Malu kind of so called developed nation. Super power konon

before bin/binti is the person's name after bin/binti is the father's name/surname

I usually fill in like this e.g:

Last Name: BINTI OTHMAN
First Name: SALEHA

Previously I just put "OTHMAN" at the last name column but one immigration officer corrected it because it didn't match my passport.

ok thx all

owh so in malaysia, ur name is considered 1st name....bin/binti/AL/AP/anak and bapak punya nama are considered last name....ok!

Given name aka your name aka first name
family name aka surname aka father name

then middle name? some online form do have middle name .. hmm