Basically you need to reduce ZD cool down of 34 seconds, combination of a ring + a voodoo mask + mojo.

P/S IAS is important of 0ZD build. You need at least 2.0 attack speed.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jun 14 2013, 02:32 PM

This.
Stacking a lot of health globe bonus is very important too.

Hey, it's been a while...
I think DPS race is almost the same, the more the merrier.

But the skill set up has changed. We opt for skills with burst damage.
We perma-spam bears, bats and dogs now.

Welcome back bro. Come join us for a spiritual walk.

Because MYR is very strong now and D3 currency has become rupiah.

Trust me. Your existing gears are very good for perma-bears/bats build.

Just get a godly Skorn with at least 5.6% LS, you'll be walking in the park @ MP10 again.

Master Gecko has shared many important points about WD.

Just something to share and ponder.
Among all heroes, based on my experience, building WD is quite different.

Of course you can build your WD like normal route, stack up IAS% to push up your DPS.
But more IAS, sooner the mana drained. Therefore, it is not necessary for WD.
WD don't really need IAS to push up your "paper DPS" because WD has 2 deadly skills with awesome burst damage, bears and bats, to kill fast.
What you need to concern is, do not let your mana drop low so that you can perma-spam your bears and bats.

So, without high IAS, one thing you'll find is low DPS (just like ZD-Sacrifice build). It is just low "paper DPS"
Do not let the low paper DPS fool you, WD can kill extremely fast with bears and bats (thanks to the burst damage).

To give you some ideas on how deadly WD is.
Here are my heroes,
HOTA/WW/Rend Barb 310K DPS
Bell Monk 295K DPS (will be 300K+ DPS once I reach paragon 100. It will take forever though )
Bola/Spike trap DH 420K DPS
CM Wiz 275K DPS (will be 300K+ DPS soon if I am no slowpoke in bidding gloves )
B&B WD 221K DPS

My WD has the lowest paper DPS (since IAS is not aggressively stacked).
Based on my current build of all my heroes, WD is the top killer for me.
If it's 1-1, HOTA barb could do better. However, when it comes to multiple targets, bears and bats of WD just melt every @ MP10 easily (especially solo game).
Every bear can deliver 950K-1.3 million damage per hit (a bear can hit multiple targets. There are infinite bears when you can perma spam bears).
Bats give me 2-3 million damage per hit per target (when you can spam bears, spamming bat is not a problem due to lower consumption of mana).

P/S Skorn with LS is the best. Really awesome weapon. Put ALL your gold and invest on a good skorn with LS. No regrets, whatsoever.

Good luck in building WD.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 26 2013, 10:59 AM

1) 4 set Zuni is a must. You need that 20 mana generation.
Yes, you have to stack a lot of IAS if you want to go on top of DPS chart.
But it will drain your mana fast, which is not really good for WD @ high MP, IMO.
Mana is very important for WD in dishing out burst damage skill. I think only ZD-sacrifice build doesn't need mana.
This is why I said WD has a quite a different build.

2) Pros and cons between 1H & 2H.
The major benefits of skorn are, beside cheaper price (as compared to 1H+mojo), (1) high base damage (2) 6% LS (3) Mana management.
I started off playing 1H + mojo. I tried to gear mana generation on voodoo mask+mojo+ceremonial knife.
And after using skorn, I found 1H build just doesn't have efficient mana management like 2H skorn.
Mana is very important for burst damage skills, generally.

3) Wiz has extremely fast arcane recovery through APOC gears + attack speed +passive.
WD does't have such fast mana recovery.
Therefore, to make sure mana doesn't drain or drain fast, slow weapon is used / IAS gears not required.
As mentioned in point (2), 1H drains mana, that's the only concern.

4) For WD, it is the choice of skill > DPS.
INT, you keep in the range of 2500-3000, that's normal. The more the merrier.
CC, keep more than 40%
AR/VIT/Armor are important. It's all bout EHP. Keep your EHP at around 500K (based on 3dup, with jungle fortitude passive). If possible, keep 600K to have a comfort play.

5) Yes, it's EHP after all.
For my CM Wiz, attack speed is very important. Need to get 3.0 attack speed or more as it affects LOH and APOC recovery. And these eventually affect the survivability.
Because the very first concern for me is to get 8-9% IAS from 9 gears (in order to get 3.0 attack speed). Secondly, I need to get CC.
I'm not sure about others, for me it's not easy to keep 5K armor if I want to achieve +80% IAS and +54% CC.
Not so easy and cheap to get those "perfect" gears.

Yes, bears are good for white mobs.
Use CoB to kill elites because 9.5/10 of elites will stand near to you (including those ranged & teleporting elites).

You need CoB and bears combo.

Just a thing to share, try change some of your passive skills.
Use jungle fortified instead of spirit vessel. See how it goes. Jungle fortified changed the whole ball game for me. Better survivability using CoB and no more pain against RD elites with CoB.
I reckon you use gruesome feast and grave injustice for mana generation since damage gain is quite negligible. Try replace them with blood ritual and spiritual attunement.
You should be able to manage your mana well with blood ritual & spiritual attunement.

Next, drop firebomb because it doesn't deliver burst damage. Use bears and CoB as your primary and secondary skill.
You can drop paranoia as you already have slam dance. And replace it with Locust Swarm/Devouring Swarm (for mana generation).
You can safely drop paranoia because bears and CoB can deliver good enough burst damage. You don't need more damage bonus but more mana for bears/bats spamming.

Happy WD-ing.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Aug 3 2013, 04:27 PM

If you can perma-spam bears, spamming bats will not be an issue. It seems bats consume less mana in actual gameplay.
This is why you can spam bats with your bears build.

IMO, bats is a must have skill since it has the highest burst damage.
With bats, I found the survivability is not as good as bears initially. I did a lot of tests and gear upgrade.
The spirit vessel couldn't help (this is because spirit vessel didn't solve the root problem even if you have your 2nd life. i.e. RD that can 1-blow you when you cast 4 million/hit of damage. Your 2nd life will be wasted in the next second anyway).
Eventually it is the jungle fortitude that changes my game play and solve the root problem. Damage mitigation is very good in MP10, extremely effective in countering RD, arcane and even Maghda's flies.
Now I am very comfortable with right-click bears and left-click bats.

I drop paranoia and slam dance.
3 reasons,
I use hex/jinx instead of paranoia and slam dance.
I pick CoB (for real damage) and Locust Swarm/Devouring (for mana generation). So, no more slot for paranoia and slam dance.
Skills like paranoia/slam dance could kill you if your defensive attribute + jungle fortitude are not enough to absorb the reflect damage.

To tackle running elites, turn them into pig and launch your bats.
I use hex/jinx so that the target is stopped from launching offensive attacks + it will take additional 20% damage.
Hex+bats (2.5 - 4.2 millions per hit), this combo can melt the yellow elite in 10 seconds or blue elites in 4-5 seconds (in solo game).

With your build and DPS, MP10 should not be an issue.

This is my skill setup. You can try and see if it suits you.
It works well for me and MP10 is easy for my WD.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...;abc!ccYZZZ

Happy WD-ing.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Aug 4 2013, 02:16 AM

Played both 1H and 2H build.
2H skorn build is still the best for me.

We've discussed on the build few pages ago. You may refer it.

Gecko is the real WD sifu.
He inspired me to use Skorn while I was a 1H advocate.

WD/Skorn combo is really a badass. Low paper DPS but high real damage.
It's unlikely to use back 1H once you get addicted to Skorn.
I hope Blizz will give us a Skorn alternative in coming expansion set.

Serpent has better attributes than the chicken.

2H skorn is better than 1H for me.
Better mana management with 2H so that you can spam your bears & bats.

You can try 1H with full Zuni set. And find out the mana management for 1H build.
I can borrow you a Zuni mojo for testing purpose.

Zuni set for mana generation.
You need mana to spam your skills.

It is a grave mistake to use Inna's pants on skorn build WD.
Go get a rare pants with high INT & VIT + 2 sockets.
It gives you more INT that gives you AR & DPS. It gives you more EHP.
Get a better Unity ring, with CC & CD.

Try to have more than 550K EHP (based on d3up).
You will have a new experience with better EHP.

You can try this skill setup.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...;bca!ccZYZZ
You can change the spirit walk rune to Jaunt.
You can change soul harvest rune to vengeful spirit
You can change hex to big bad voodoo

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Sep 13 2013, 10:48 AM

With your DPS, you should be able to farm MP7-8.
Just need to push up your EHP.

P/S If you want fast farming, with your DPS, you should be able to 1-shot most of the mobs @ MP4.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Sep 13 2013, 07:09 PM

It seems the expansion is WD friendly.
Sacrifice for C4 build seems good. And the diamond gem will let C4 build WD drop Homunculus mojo, which is good for DPS/EHP boost.

I use bears on mass mobs.
I use firebats/COB on bosses.

Impossibru!!!!!
All you need is a full set of zuni.
Even if you equip with most pariah skorn, with 5.6% LS, you should be able to walk in the park at MP3.

I check your gears, skill setup, attack speed, health globes and EHP.
They seem ok. MP10 should be doable.

3 reasons I could think of.

1) You are not used to it as zd dog build has rather short range attack.

2) insufficient ehp. Try replace your passive/zombie handler with jungle fortitude. If you have better survivability, it means you need to push up your ehp.

3) stack more health globes.i remember I used to stack more than 15k health globe.

1)
EHP.
You've got high armor. It is not easy to have 4K of armor for WD/Wiz/DH.
But I think your HP is low though.
I'd suggest to change your pants to rare pants, 160+ INT + 250+ VIT + 2 sockets.

Health globes.
You can stack health globes from Vile Ward and rare pants.


2)
Some suggestions on skill setup.
Replace gargantuan with firebats/CoB.
2 reasons of doing it.
Firstly, gargantuan is pretty much useless by today's standard. The damage is not good enough.
Secondly, you have unused mana. You might as well utilize it with burst damage skill like firebats/CoB. You may use plague bats too.
You may watch below video to get the idea of integrating firebats/CoB to your ZD build.
(Yes, i know the video is not exactly zd dog build. Nonetheless it is a viable skill to enhance your damage of your build. It's likely you need to spam your keyboard like playing CM Wiz )



Mass confusion is no good. The duration of additional damage is too short, I'd call it negligible.
Replace mass confusion/Paranoia with either big bad voodoo/slam dance or hex/jinx.
Big bad voodoo gives you and team players huge damage boost (as compared to mass confusion). It has 67% longer duration too.
Hex/jinx helps you to reduce 1-2 elites that could attack you concurrently in real time battlefield. It will indirectly give you better survivability. It gives you additional damage on target on the other hand.


3)
Beside higher damage output, the reason to have fast attack speed in ZD dog build is to give you faster health recovery.
You can reduce your attack speed if you have LS weapon.
LS weapon gives you life recovery and hence better survivability.
If you use firebats, you'll get huge life recovery with LS weapon.
And it is possible to drop sacrifice/for the master and replace with sacrifice/provoke the pack. You'll get huge damage buff.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Oct 1 2013, 11:20 AM