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denze87
post Jun 1 2013, 11:43 AM

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i wanna upgrade my witchy,just dont know which one to upgrade to;

1:zuni vision + uhkapent
2:mempo + zuni string skull

please give me some opinion about it..

thanks for all the master of witchy

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post Jun 1 2013, 12:27 PM

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i got this SOJ, but dont know how i will benefit if i equip this.

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post Jun 1 2013, 01:39 PM

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1:zuni vision + uhkapent
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post Jun 1 2013, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(untong @ Jun 1 2013, 01:39 PM)
1:zuni vision + uhkapent
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serious???because i see the mempo add hell lot of damage compare to vision...hati gatal gatal....dont know which way to go...
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post Jun 1 2013, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(blackorange @ Jun 1 2013, 12:27 PM)
i got this SOJ, but dont know how i will benefit if i equip this.
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nice ring of jordan u got ya....sell me cheap cheap lo..haha
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post Jun 1 2013, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(denze87 @ Jun 1 2013, 11:43 AM)
i wanna upgrade my witchy,just dont know which one to upgrade to;

1:zuni vision + uhkapent
2:mempo + zuni string skull

please give me some opinion about it..

thanks for all the master of witchy

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@ option 3. Visage of Giyua (19x intel, 7x AR, 5-6% CC & WD skill of your choice) + Zuni String Skull

advantages:
Giyua provides AR (just like Mempo minus the "unwanted" ias), Mana regen (very important to WD) & bonus to WD skill
Zuni String of Skull provides Mana regen & BvE .. while still keeping 4 set bonus when not using Zuni Vision.

QUOTE(blackorange @ Jun 1 2013, 12:27 PM)
i got this SOJ, but dont know how i will benefit if i equip this.
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Lets say your paper dps is 100k (with current Unity equipped) .. changing to that SoJ will make ur paper dps becomes 79k but dmg against elites are boosted (30% - 4% x 79k) which is arnd 20.5k .. so u do basically arnd the same dmg to elites but less to normal mobs with SoJ. However bear in mind that it scales with higher dps (at a certain dps, SOJ will give u more dmg). SoJ also provide u with bigger mana pool.
That SoJ could easily be sold for hundred of mils in AH.

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post Jun 1 2013, 06:49 PM

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@Gecko

I think vision is better than guiya. No? Guiya gives more mitigation though.

But Guiya looks cooler.

Anyway DPS and cost wise, unity gives more compared to a pox so if u drop vision, you have to go with pox that might lower your DPS. Unity have high average damage and BvE.

I like they gearing of WD, I just hate the way bears were designed.

My two cents.
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post Jun 1 2013, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jun 1 2013, 06:49 PM)
@Gecko

I think vision is better than guiya. No? Guiya gives more mitigation though.

But Guiya looks cooler.

Anyway DPS and cost wise, unity gives more compared to a pox so if u drop vision, you have to go with pox that might lower your DPS. Unity have high average damage and BvE.

I like they gearing of WD, I just hate the way bears were designed.

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Both are better than Mempo for WD .. its a matter of gearing choice & what primary dmg dealer skill ur WD use i suppose.
pros of Vision: Higher Intel, Life% (a build that stacks vit would benefit from this), Max Mana (better for constant high mana spell such as Bears), a part of Zuni set so can use Ukh mojo which offers the most boost to dps (highest avg dmg possible + fixed cc so the 2 random rolls can be double intel/vit + life%)
pros of Giyua: All Resist, Mana regen (good for build that focus on chanelling skills) & bonus to WD Skill (its a must for 0dog build ... i also think it can benefit bats build too)

yeah .. pox become a must-use if u drop Vision .. Unity does gv more dps, need a well rolled pox to compete (since it hv 3 random roll) but the price sweat.gif .. ehp wise pox + giyua will provide a lot of mitigation (both hving fixed AR roll).

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post Jun 1 2013, 11:56 PM

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Impressive read on this WD

http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/1f...s_invulnerable/

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post Jun 2 2013, 04:20 PM

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post Jun 3 2013, 09:45 AM

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WD Solo Uber

Now..any of our champion wanna give it a try rclxms.gif
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post Jun 3 2013, 04:53 PM

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what i know now the hammer price high rocket...
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post Jun 6 2013, 11:17 AM

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...am able to perma-firebats with Visage of Giyua & Uhkapian Serpent that are self looted for testing purpose.

Guru, please give your tunjukajar.

My WD vital stats by the courtesy of blizz.

Note:
I've noticed that my wd hasn't been equipped with any of the Zunimassa's gear.


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post Jun 6 2013, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(denze87 @ Jun 3 2013, 04:53 PM)
what i know now the hammer price high rocket...
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what hammer?
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post Jun 6 2013, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Jun 6 2013, 11:48 AM)
what hammer?
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post Jun 6 2013, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(denze87 @ Jun 1 2013, 11:43 AM)
i wisnna upgrade my witchy,just dont know which one to upgrade to;

1:zuni vision + uhkapent
2:mempo + zuni string skull

please give me some opinion about it..

thanks for all the master of witchy

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IMO, bats alone are not quite good enough.
I won't touch on the weaknesses of bats, as I presume you know it well.

It is a perfect combo to have bats and bears.
Gear up to have perma-spamming of bears.
If you can perma-spam bears, you won't have problem spamming bats.
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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Jun 6 2013, 11:17 AM)
...am able to perma-firebats with Visage of Giyua & Uhkapian Serpent that are self looted for testing purpose.

Guru, please give your tunjukajar.

My WD vital stats by the courtesy of blizz.

Note:
I've noticed that my wd hasn't been equipped with any of the Zunimassa's gear.
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IMO, you need full Zuni's for mana generation.
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post Jun 7 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 6 2013, 09:54 PM)
IMO, you need full Zuni's for mana generation.
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Thks for the insightful opinion, ...just managed to pick up a Zunimassa's Vision from AH and am looking for a GG Zuni String of Skulls but still pondering on the selection of either Zombie Charger (for PvE) or Spirit Barrage (for PvP).

I've 2 other subpar zuni items (in my stash) to get its 4-piece set bonus and then, more indepth testing will commence.

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post Jun 7 2013, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Jun 7 2013, 11:54 AM)
Thks for the insightful opinion, ...just managed to pick up a Zunimassa's Vision from AH and am looking for a GG Zuni String of Skulls but still pondering on the selection of either Zombie Charger (for PvE) or Spirit Barrage (for PvP).

I've 2 other subpar zuni items (in my stash) to get its 4-piece set bonus and then, more indepth testing will commence.
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I would go for Spirit Barrage on Zuni Mojo cos its good for both PvP & PvE and the fact it boost dmg as compared to reduction cost for Zombie Charger (need a 2nd gear with reduction to be really effective). Tbh SB dmg is almost as good as Bears altho it wont hit as many targets as Bears .. 2 runes that are useful for SB are: Well of Souls (for xtra dmg) & The Spirit is Willing (for mana return). If u are alrdy using bats for AoE/close quarters dmg dealer,then SB can be used for ranged n single targets/leftover mobs.

I've been checkingt AH for few weeks for a decent Zuni String myself (250 avg dmg, 9%cc, vit & SB skill) but hvnt found 1 that fits my budget biggrin.gif

I'm curious about Manitou rune .. u use/summon it once then it will keep on shooting for 20 sec, does Rush of Essence (49 mana over 10 sec) procs each time it shoot (for the whole 20 sec duration) or only once when u initially use/summon it?

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post Jun 8 2013, 04:22 PM

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