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 Witch Doctor Discussion v2, Who let the dogs OUT!

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post Jun 18 2014, 01:51 PM

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Is Zombie Dog or Gargantuan the kill spell of WD's pets build?
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post Jun 18 2014, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Jun 18 2014, 01:51 PM)
Is Zombie Dog or Gargantuan the kill spell of WD's pets build?
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Zombie Dog
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post Jun 18 2014, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(hvaly @ Jun 18 2014, 01:11 PM)
yea.. got my 5th jade set ..
will try to use jade set when i am bored with my doggy

but i think i will still focus on pet build, due to many comparison done by expert

1. Dps (single or multi)
2. gearing
3. survivability
4. Move around
5. Efficiency
6. Resource
7. Cool down
8. etc etc

1. single target = pets, aoe = jade (even, since each is better at one)
2. 3 pieces = pets, 7 = jade (advantage pets)
3. more meat shields = more survivability (advantage pets)
4. pet docs can use hexing, jade docs cannot (advantage pets)
5. solo pets > jade, and both viable in groups (advantage pets)
6. neither build has resource problems (even)
7. jade is way more reliant on resetting cooldowns than pets, which makes them more gear dependent as well (advantage [due to not needing the affix] pets)
8. on paper it looks like pets are better... but really it's just personal preference (as has been said) since both are very viable solo and in groups

and last one to add on by me
9. lazy/less click build - advantage pet, ur main char just move around and avoid hit, get loot, no need so attentive and tired to think when to cast soul harvest XD
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You should try playing the Jade spec first smile.gif

But if the pet doc has SMK, I think jade will slightly under perform, depending on team composition.
100% BBV is too strong

This post has been edited by stevie: Jun 18 2014, 04:42 PM
hfi
post Jun 18 2014, 06:24 PM

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I've played both pets and jade, and i am still enjoying both builds. Coming from barb, WD has been a breath of fresh air for me. The diversity in play style is immense - pet doc plays like a summoner, where as jade plays like a nuker. And then you have the likes of carnevil, buff station, and controller builds.

I don't necessarily think one is better than the other. Both builds have its merits and weaknesses. I personally feel the contrasting nature of both builds is what makes the WD class rich in depth and fun. Why choose one over the other ? My barb would kill for such luxury. I switch builds depending on my mood and if and when the group requires me to change my build. Nothing worse than running with 2 pet docs resulting to a massive pet traffic and your big hot dog staying idle at your side.


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post Jun 19 2014, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Jun 18 2014, 06:24 PM)
I've played both pets and jade, and i am still enjoying both builds.  Coming from barb, WD has been a breath of fresh air for me. The diversity in play style is immense - pet doc plays like a summoner, where as jade plays like a nuker. And then you have the likes of carnevil, buff station, and controller builds.

I don't necessarily think one is better than the other. Both builds have its merits and weaknesses. I personally feel the contrasting nature of both builds is what makes the WD class rich in depth and fun. Why choose one over the other ? My barb would kill for such luxury. I switch builds depending on my mood and if and when the group requires me to change my build. Nothing worse than running with 2 pet docs resulting to a massive pet traffic and your big hot dog staying idle at your side.
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ya totally agree .. thumbup.gif
both build also fun and viable in end game T6
so i might create 2 wd, one focus on pet, the other on jade ...
switch to other when i am bored ..

they forgot to mention one big weakness about pet : noob AI/stuck AI/ traffic jam sweat.gif

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post Jun 19 2014, 10:13 AM

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speed farm T5 with FL passive is thumbup.gif . my careless not read all 2.05 patch changes, onli know about this mobility passive yesterday doh.gif
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post Jun 19 2014, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jun 16 2014, 05:00 PM)
my suggested Zombie Bear skill build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...fTYc!ZYccbZ

need practice a bit, might difficult a the beginning but later u can spam bear non stop biggrin.gif also dont forget to stack poison damage bonus (very easy on bracer)..
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Tried the build, it's a lot of fun! Some practice to line everything up with the nado and then unleash the bears, but it's all good. Now just need to upgrade my gear to a decent level biggrin.gif

Are any of the crafted legendary items worth trying out?
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post Jun 19 2014, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Jun 19 2014, 10:29 AM)
Tried the build, it's a lot of fun! Some practice to line everything up with the nado and then unleash the bears, but it's all good. Now just need to upgrade my gear to a decent level biggrin.gif

Are any of the crafted legendary items worth trying out?
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can share your profile? Aughild set (bracer + Shoulder) is very very nice to craft..
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post Jun 19 2014, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jun 19 2014, 10:56 AM)
can share your profile? Aughild set (bracer + Shoulder) is very very nice to craft..
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Err a bit premature to share it, only played an hour or so since hitting lvl 70.. so my gear is pretty horrendous still even with the "work in progress" label tongue.gif

Ah ok can try and craft the bracers and shoulders!

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post Jun 19 2014, 04:37 PM

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Hi,

Please advice on my WD. Anything that need improve?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/furious...80/hero/3799490
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post Jun 19 2014, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(nmah @ Jun 19 2014, 04:37 PM)
Hi,

Please advice on my WD. Anything that need improve?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/furious...80/hero/3799490
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Honestly with your low lvl Doc, u found that MoJ yourself or gift from fren? gratz btw rclxms.gif

Gear:

1) I assume you already have Aughild plan. Craft Bracer, Shoulders and chest. if u still dont get plan, use any chest with Int, vit, 3 socket and armor.. later stage u might want skill bonus on these piece. bracer need elemental (fire/ physical/poison) Int, Vit and 5-6cc
2) Reroll your MoJ.. I suggest reroll AR to CC (might be pain to get it biggrin.gif )
3) Reroll amulet.. AR to CHD. Rerolling legendary ammy a bit painful and costly.. alternatively use rare ammy with Int, CHC, CHD and (vit/ias/elemental/average dmg)
4)reroll AR to vit on Mojo..again if costly, use rare mojo
5) get a rare ring with Int, CHC CHD (avg damge/ias/vit). rerolling your current leg rings not worth it and costly.
6) belt you can reroll skill bonus to +% life if u want

skill build u can try this: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witc...WVgR!Ycbbba

note:
1) with TF you might better using Rain of toad
2) Gargantuan sometime stupid, standing still doing nothing. So u might change it to something else like Mass Confusiion-Paronia
3) Fierce Loyalty passive for mobility.. u can change to other passive like Grave Injustice or Spirit Vessel
4) with homuculus Mojo, you can drop ZD from skill slot.. but dog from this mojo is un-rune.

This post has been edited by Sabenarian: Jun 19 2014, 05:41 PM
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post Jun 20 2014, 05:30 PM

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hi abang saber biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(waklu @ Jun 20 2014, 05:30 PM)
hi abang saber biggrin.gif
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your TnT so nice, can borrow arr? biggrin.gif
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post Jun 23 2014, 12:24 PM

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Okay, played another hour over the weekend, can show my weaksauce gear now biggrin.gif

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/minori-1796/hero/48735139

Thunderfury dropped. STR Thunderfury (where.is.the.smartloot.lol).

It's on my barb MH now since I reckon it would be a bit "wasted" on my WD (since WD has class specific weapons that it would prefer, iirc).

TF = best for barb or crusader? Thinking of reforging the elemental damage to bonus dmg vs elites or a flat damage % increase. Any advice?


This post has been edited by sunblaze: Jun 23 2014, 12:25 PM
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post Jun 23 2014, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Jun 23 2014, 12:24 PM)
Okay, played another hour over the weekend, can show my weaksauce gear now biggrin.gif

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/minori-1796/hero/48735139

Thunderfury dropped. STR Thunderfury (where.is.the.smartloot.lol).

It's on my barb MH now since I reckon it would be a bit "wasted" on my WD (since WD has class specific weapons that it would prefer, iirc).

TF = best for barb or crusader? Thinking of reforging the elemental damage to bonus dmg vs elites or a flat damage % increase. Any advice?
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If u still have mats and gold, craft Aughild chest to get 3 piece bonus. dont forget about CC on bracer.. also keep doing Act1 normal bounty for RoRG and Scepter http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/item/mad-monarchs-scepter-2F34bH this weapon is very nice for bear build..

This post has been edited by Sabenarian: Jun 23 2014, 12:37 PM
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post Jun 23 2014, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jun 23 2014, 12:35 PM)
If u still have mats and gold, craft Aughild chest to get 3 piece bonus. dont forget about CC on bracer.. also keep doing Act1 normal bounty for RoRG and Scepter http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/item/mad-monarchs-scepter-2F34bH this weapon is very nice for bear build..
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Yea that weapon looks sweettttt

Gonna need to farm for mats, arcane dust especially.

Thanks for the info! happy.gif

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post Jun 23 2014, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(stevie @ Jun 18 2014, 04:27 PM)
You should try playing the Jade spec first smile.gif

But if the pet doc has SMK, I think jade will slightly under perform, depending on team composition.
100% BBV is too strong
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used to play jade also...then go pet...very fun with 100% bbv
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post Jun 23 2014, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Jun 23 2014, 12:24 PM)
Okay, played another hour over the weekend, can show my weaksauce gear now biggrin.gif

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/minori-1796/hero/48735139

Thunderfury dropped. STR Thunderfury (where.is.the.smartloot.lol).

It's on my barb MH now since I reckon it would be a bit "wasted" on my WD (since WD has class specific weapons that it would prefer, iirc).

TF = best for barb or crusader? Thinking of reforging the elemental damage to bonus dmg vs elites or a flat damage % increase. Any advice?
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TF is best for your templar thumbup.gif
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post Jun 23 2014, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jun 23 2014, 02:36 PM)
TF is best for your templar  thumbup.gif
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HAHAHAHA! My gear level isn't THAT imba until I can give it to him LOL!!!

Besides, I prefer enchantress tongue.gif
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post Jun 23 2014, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jun 23 2014, 11:45 AM)
your TnT so nice, can borrow arr? biggrin.gif
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can, but need kadala permission first la bro hehe

the freakin smk just wont drop... sweat.gif sweat.gif

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