How much is 195/65/15. ...ten q
Michelin Energy XM2, Quote me Michelin Energy XM2 Tyres Price
Michelin Energy XM2, Quote me Michelin Energy XM2 Tyres Price
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Mar 20 2016, 12:58 PM
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How much is 195/65/15. ...ten q
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Mar 21 2016, 10:25 PM
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You might save a little off your fuel bill by using these low rolling resistance XM2s. It's fine for city and highway drives, provided you don't take corners at above average speeds. If you drive like I do, which is to attack corners quite frequently, the sides of the XM2s will chip off and crack, bit by bit. These tires aren't made for cornering at fast speeds because of its soft sidewalls.
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Mar 21 2016, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Mar 21 2016, 10:25 PM) You might save a little off your fuel bill by using these low rolling resistance XM2s. It's fine for city and highway drives, provided you don't take corners at above average speeds. If you drive like I do, which is to attack corners quite frequently, the sides of the XM2s will chip off and crack, bit by bit. These tires aren't made for cornering at fast speeds because of its soft sidewalls. mine already crack, lots of minor cracks at the edge of tire after 3 years, I do corner a bit hard because rushing most of the time, not sure it is due to hard cornering. But ya it doesnt grip as good but I think rolling resistance can feel less. Being on XM2 since 2011, apart from cracking, so far so good |
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Mar 21 2016, 10:57 PM
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I read that low rolling resistance tires by Michelin that contains silica compound are likely to exhibit this tire chipping trait. Time to move away to a tire with stronger, stiffer sidewalls so that you can attack corners.
I've used 2 sets of XM2s and 1 set of XM1s. All had the same tire chipping problem. QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Mar 21 2016, 10:52 PM) mine already crack, lots of minor cracks at the edge of tire after 3 years, I do corner a bit hard because rushing most of the time, not sure it is due to hard cornering. But ya it doesnt grip as good but I think rolling resistance can feel less. Being on XM2 since 2011, apart from cracking, so far so good |
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Mar 21 2016, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Mar 21 2016, 10:57 PM) I read that low rolling resistance tires by Michelin that contains silica compound are likely to exhibit this tire chipping trait. Time to move away to a tire with stronger, stiffer sidewalls so that you can attack corners. ou..really...whats your next tireI've used 2 sets of XM2s and 1 set of XM1s. All had the same tire chipping problem. |
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Mar 21 2016, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Mar 21 2016, 10:57 PM) I read that low rolling resistance tires by Michelin that contains silica compound are likely to exhibit this tire chipping trait. Time to move away to a tire with stronger, stiffer sidewalls so that you can attack corners. ou..really...whats your next tireI've used 2 sets of XM2s and 1 set of XM1s. All had the same tire chipping problem. |
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Mar 22 2016, 05:33 AM
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Mar 27 2016, 06:23 PM
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XM2 195/55/15 rm220 a piece at Racing Z. A bit noisy comparing to my other two rides, Primacy ST and HP.
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Jun 26 2016, 11:24 AM
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Pls quote Michelin tyre 185/55R16 KL and PJ area what is the price ?
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Jul 1 2016, 10:53 AM
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Jul 1 2016, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Mar 21 2016, 11:52 PM) mine already crack, lots of minor cracks at the edge of tire after 3 years, I do corner a bit hard because rushing most of the time, not sure it is due to hard cornering. But ya it doesnt grip as good but I think rolling resistance can feel less. Being on XM2 since 2011, apart from cracking, so far so good Yup, it is chips off and cracks as experienced of late. |
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Jul 1 2016, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Mar 21 2016, 10:25 PM) You might save a little off your fuel bill by using these low rolling resistance XM2s. It's fine for city and highway drives, provided you don't take corners at above average speeds. If you drive like I do, which is to attack corners quite frequently, the sides of the XM2s will chip off and crack, bit by bit. These tires aren't made for cornering at fast speeds because of its soft sidewalls. It appears that the micro cracks are normal. I thought my XM2 having premature aging. I rotate/align the tyres at 20k km, could that be a factor that contribute to the cracks?If safety is my may concern, should I purchase tyres with higher rolling resistance? How does XM2 (RM240) perform compared with Hankook H308 (RM175) and Continental CC5 (RM210)? |
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Jul 1 2016, 07:15 PM
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The micro cracks on the external surface of XM2 is most likely not from your rotation. It's definitely due to their compound and our driving habits of subjecting them to high cornering speeds/stress.
You can try other energy saving tires if you are not at ease with the micro cracks on XM2. You will lose dry and wet grip with CC5 coming from XM2. Haven't tried Hankook yet so I can't comment. Have you considered Bridgestone Potenza Andrenalin RE003? QUOTE(putra23 @ Jul 1 2016, 02:30 PM) It appears that the micro cracks are normal. I thought my XM2 having premature aging. I rotate/align the tyres at 20k km, could that be a factor that contribute to the cracks? If safety is my may concern, should I purchase tyres with higher rolling resistance? How does XM2 (RM240) perform compared with Hankook H308 (RM175) and Continental CC5 (RM210)? |
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Jul 1 2016, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Jul 1 2016, 07:15 PM) The micro cracks on the external surface of XM2 is most likely not from your rotation. It's definitely due to their compound and our driving habits of subjecting them to high cornering speeds/stress. So far the shops I asked did not have RE003 for my 195/60R15. Viking at RM180 is tempting. Any comments on Viking? Not too concern on noise or fuel, just need comparable grip and braking.You can try other energy saving tires if you are not at ease with the micro cracks on XM2. You will lose dry and wet grip with CC5 coming from XM2. Haven't tried Hankook yet so I can't comment. Have you considered Bridgestone Potenza Andrenalin RE003? This post has been edited by putra23: Jul 1 2016, 11:49 PM |
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Jul 2 2016, 06:51 AM
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Viking is the Norwegian brand of Continental Tires. At that price it might be worth a try. I imagine performance would be similar to CC5.
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Jul 2 2016, 09:34 PM
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Jul 8 2016, 02:52 AM
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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Mar 21 2016, 10:25 PM) You might save a little off your fuel bill by using these low rolling resistance XM2s. It's fine for city and highway drives, provided you don't take corners at above average speeds. If you drive like I do, which is to attack corners quite frequently, the sides of the XM2s will chip off and crack, bit by bit. These tires aren't made for cornering at fast speeds because of its soft sidewalls. QUOTE(putra23 @ Jul 1 2016, 02:30 PM) It appears that the micro cracks are normal. I thought my XM2 having premature aging. I rotate/align the tyres at 20k km, could that be a factor that contribute to the cracks? I came here wondering how to ask/explain the cracks and its nicely being discussed.... If safety is my may concern, should I purchase tyres with higher rolling resistance? How does XM2 (RM240) perform compared with Hankook H308 (RM175) and Continental CC5 (RM210)? I dont consider myself a fast driver, my MX2 is on a Sentra 1997 car, yes 19 years old. I dont take corners at like crazy speeds (but not slow speeds), and drive max 140kmh on highway for a few KM between home n work daily. My front ones (or atleast been in front more often) are rather cracked, and the back ones are moderately cracked... at what point is it unsafe? Braking is still 100% fine, rain grip solid. Its 3.5(?) years old, 40k km give or take. |
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Jul 8 2016, 08:21 PM
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If you're ferrying kids or other previous cargo, I'd change now. If you're the only occupant in the Sentra, I'd say change after another 12 months of use. At 30k km, mine felt like it was starting to lose grip. At 40k km, I changed it.
QUOTE(Zavia/GenX @ Jul 8 2016, 02:52 AM) I came here wondering how to ask/explain the cracks and its nicely being discussed.... I dont consider myself a fast driver, my MX2 is on a Sentra 1997 car, yes 19 years old. I dont take corners at like crazy speeds (but not slow speeds), and drive max 140kmh on highway for a few KM between home n work daily. My front ones (or atleast been in front more often) are rather cracked, and the back ones are moderately cracked... at what point is it unsafe? Braking is still 100% fine, rain grip solid. Its 3.5(?) years old, 40k km give or take. |
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Jul 9 2016, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(SkyCaptain @ Jul 8 2016, 08:21 PM) If you're ferrying kids or other previous cargo, I'd change now. If you're the only occupant in the Sentra, I'd say change after another 12 months of use. At 30k km, mine felt like it was starting to lose grip. At 40k km, I changed it. but but but, arn't I precious toooo? *big eyes*Yea, I dont. Also dont drive at 150 160 de, sigh. At first I also thought its a rotation thing. I liked these tyres. |
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Jul 9 2016, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(Zavia/GenX @ Jul 9 2016, 01:09 PM) but but but, arn't I precious toooo? *big eyes* better replace the tyres. l kena 2 years ago. Yea, I dont. Also dont drive at 150 160 de, sigh. At first I also thought its a rotation thing. I liked these tyres. speed at 80km/hr n back tyre pop. car spin n hit divider. axle, bearing, arm, sport rims koyak.. more $ gone |
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