thanks ..
at first, i never thought about issue on A-pillar has a big implication to the safety - total loss scenario if the car badly damage esp on engine parts - like ur car..so at first, i dont bother about total loss issue..but now im worried already after receiving more and more opinion highlighting this..

how about the collusion on the left passenger door? anyone?

so there are two parts in A-pillar - top & lower part..so you mean that the top part is served as a cover to the lower part?..

looking at the roof condition, would the pillar be straight again if we remove the roof?

i dont discount possibility of that..if that the case, what do you guys think? Still safe?

need to take more picture focus on that part.back to my earlier question in what condition the A-pillar could be deemed as total loss?

thanks guys for the free consultation advise!

it is not a question whether i want it to be total loss or not, its more on the issue of roadworthiness..

if the car deemed as total loss due to economically unrepairable (due to repair cost exceeds market value) , or car beyond repairable (no point repair)- i think the issue is quite straight forward..

but if the car is not safe to repair, but still can be repaired and restored so that on the surface it looks normal - but in the inside compromise the safety issue which its hardly difficult to see, if the insurance decides to repair it for the sake of they dont want to pay full market value, where is the our rights in this case? is there any protection to the car owner in this case?

on the other side of discussion, i'll put it a secondary for the moment..i still need to some advise on how to go ahead on this matter since police report already decided i'm not the one that in fault position..i got hit from a driver from the south!

care to share with me how to? by PM also can...please...i really want to know how cos i got 1 car waiting for puspakom examination...

1) ok, yup, its repairable, becoz the workshop told me that now..they also the one suggesting when towing my car that loss adjuster could probably view this as total loss too..but now change their mind already perhaps after looking carefully about the car conditions i guess..but they transferred the car to another workshop belonging to them as the current workshop doesnt have expertise in structural damage works..

2) replacement part i think should not be an issue i guess..this MPV car is quite common in Malaysia

3) The workshop suggests to consider selling the car after the repair works finishes. Its not becoz of the safety issue, but rather to avoid the car being total loss where compensation by the insurance company (If i insists and manage to get thru) is not as high as if i sell it in the secondary car market..

4) Seriously, the workshop never highlight about the roadworthiness issue..could be to them everything are repairable, the question is whether so its economically repairable to do so or not..when it come to structure panel works, it may take 5-6 months, or 3 months the earliest..

wat car ?
brand  pls       

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Added on November 23, 2012, 7:18 pm

u can pass JPJ is another thing.... LOL..thats why my proton wira will be my last 2nd hand car in my life...  

so I.dun puspakom can pass la like tat...no source...all say runner only...

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fact about alphard cos family own veilfire: importer sewa the glass from shop changing glasses before puspakom inspection...I can intro u the glass shop...so puspakom being cheated or the importer is corrupted...

fact about selling car : puspakom inspection no need to book...1st come 1st serve basis...I dunno which puspakom are u going but tats wat wangsa maju puspakom practice...

hi there..

its not toyota body workshop..was told by the workshop that toyota doesnt want to do for my case..

in fact, they themselves sent my car to another workshop becoz they dont hv expertise in structured panel..

so i went to the another workshop where they keep my car, pending insurance loss adjuster to come..

when i asked them how long will it take to repair my car, they cant answer exactly when, as the timing depending on several milestone..

first, get the loss adjuster to give their evaluation..say, the repair cost doesnt exceeds 65% of the market value..

before my car get repaired, the owner (which is me, not the workshop) must write to JPJ Putrajaya on something "kebenaran membaiki"..when i asked why need JPJ blessing first, they told that  becoz the repair works needs to replace left  A-pillar and the roof (2 key structural parts)..he told that under JPJ rules, JPJ allow repair up to two critical parts, in this case, A-pillar and roof..say B-pillar need to replace too, then it wont get passed JPJ already..

after that, say JPJ approved it, and next time the car get into accident again which has something to do with any of the pillar, JPJ would not allow anymore..

walawey, seems like i'm the one who insist to get the car repaired instead of the total loss, to do so, i need to ask JPJ permission first before getting my car repaired..

they wont proceed to repair the car until JPJ's approval is given..

so when i asked them about possibility of the car declaring as total loss, they said, no points talking about it already becoz eventually lies on the loss adjuster's opinion..

in my case, what should i do?

TS,

as a repairer....my personal suggestion is to repair the car.

adjuster and insurance wont totalled your car, it just too minor....

if u need more info, you can pm me......

Toyota itself doesnt do body repair, even they did...they also assigned third party(outside workshop) to do......

many customers dunno bout this...they insists to sent toyota for repair, but actually the one repair your car is from outside workshop(appointed)

my 2cent

thank you for sharing info..

the car built in early 2008, registered here in 2011. The workshop said the car already 5 years by now, hence replacement should be from used part, not new part, under BNM rules. (verification check: issit true the car already 5 years old for the insurance purpose?)

as for 65% mark, if the loss adjuster value the car lower and the workshop up the repair ost price, wouldnt it able to reach 65% mark?..pls note i had my other car repaired in workshop, not serious though, just change the front bonet and front lights and spray(nothing on the engine)- it costed the insurance co for RM7k already for used part (according to insurance claim).. for this kind of damages, i imagine the cost should escalate few times higher..

my insurance from etiqa, same also for the car that hit me, but singapore branch.. towing, police report are all done, im not the one being summoned.

yup, the workshop will only start doing the repair work once JPJ approval letter is obtained. In this case, the owner must do themselves, not the workshop (verification check: issit true?)

so the structure panel can be properly repaired without kes "sambung" case? Why i should be the one have to incur costs for JPJ or PUSPAKOM inspection? is it claimable to the insurance company? what happen if the car proceeded to repair and then thereafter PUSPAKOM reject it? what happen then?

[The vehicle registration card will be stamped of "roof panel replaced, pillar replaced"] - this will make the car is not saleable in the secondary market as peoples are car about safety risk too...i view this as a total loss due to this reason as well..

on the letter, to whom should i address the letter to? chances wise how?

Thats why its important the car to go thru PUSPAKOM inspection first. but i guess the PUSPAKOM inspection is owner's pocket money and not sure what happen if the car cannot passed PUSPAKOM. this question still left unanswered.

so I.dun puspakom can pass la like tat...no source...all say runner only...

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