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lucifah
post Nov 24 2012, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(supermoto @ Nov 24 2012, 10:34 PM)
z750 is more expensive than z800?
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due to malaysian tax structure, yes

effect of AFTA too

CBU thai gets lower tax / excise than CBU jap
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post Nov 24 2012, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 24 2012, 10:31 PM)
my bike in sibu. never ride outside of town..  sweat.gif

how much is the wife jacket? komine?
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yeah. the komine ladies mesh jacket. RM550.

Saw the komine titanium mesh, 9xx Tried it, very nice fit but pricey lah. they also carry a cheaper komine mesh around 5xx.
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post Nov 24 2012, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 24 2012, 10:38 PM)
due to malaysian tax structure, yes

effect of AFTA too

CBU thai gets lower tax / excise than CBU jap
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sad.gif ..

i heard that z800 is thai build. so z800 more powerful than z750?
lucifah
post Nov 24 2012, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(supermoto @ Nov 24 2012, 10:40 PM)
sad.gif ..

i heard that z800 is thai build. so z800 more powerful than z750?
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z800 = 800hp

z750 = 750 hp

u get 50 less ponies with z750, so, go figure
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post Nov 24 2012, 10:43 PM

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post Nov 24 2012, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(likimikuku @ Nov 24 2012, 05:20 PM)
i work in klang.. knock off around 6:30pm..FML
me also newbie.. 5 months++
btw guy.. got question on my bike

aku baru buat 200km (PJ-Ipoh)... semua ok...
hanya suspension belakang tak sedap..

nak tanya, kalau RPM sampai 6500 dalam 100km/h...normal tak??
bila 110km/h dah sampai 7000 RPM
kalau 120~140 boleh sampai RPM 8000~9000..

is this normal?
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tu la aku dah ckp beli 650 xnak percaya...
sekarang menyesal suda...

inb4 dig up post show proof lol.

like farique say, both 250 and 650 blade back mono is real shitty. mine wobble execively at high speed(not so highspeed pon, idzihar88 bekam worried lol).

i find for me incresing the pre-load help a bit, but hardens the ride and at high speed if there is imperfection on road result may be devastating.

for 250, some suggest chaange to yss like farique say, some find fitting the 650mono to 250 also works.

but if xsedap u mean keras, then, itu culture shock coz i know DTM langgar bonggol pon no feel one rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(izzizahari @ Nov 24 2012, 10:50 PM)
tu la aku dah ckp beli 650 xnak percaya...
sekarang menyesal suda...

inb4 dig up post show proof lol.

like farique say, both 250 and 650 blade back mono is real shitty. mine wobble execively at high speed(not so highspeed pon, idzihar88 bekam worried lol).

i find for me incresing the pre-load help a bit, but hardens the ride and at high speed if there is imperfection on road result may be devastating.

for 250, some suggest chaange to yss like farique say, some find fitting the 650mono to 250 also works.

but if xsedap u mean keras, then, itu culture shock coz i know DTM langgar bonggol pon no feel one rclxms.gif
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aiya.. aku tau semua advice me to get 650cc.. and i know it is a good addvice
but financially cannot ma..
i still ok with 250cc...for now...lol
with easily reaching 120....and still have power overtake.. that good enough d.. biggrin.gif

yup.. really keras..
dun know is the mono or really culture shock.. cause my DTM...really fun runing to bump...lol

thanks for the advice man..
when will u be free??
can help me test ride my bike??
i need someone with "blade" experience to test my bike and see got any thing wrong..
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post Nov 24 2012, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(likimikuku @ Nov 24 2012, 11:04 PM)
aiya.. aku tau semua advice me to get 650cc.. and i know it is a good addvice
but financially cannot ma..
i still ok with 250cc...for now...lol
with easily reaching 120....and still have power overtake.. that good enough d.. biggrin.gif

yup.. really keras..
dun know is the mono or really culture shock.. cause my DTM...really fun runing to bump...lol

thanks for the advice man..
when will u be free??
can help me test ride my bike??
i need someone with "blade" experience to test my bike and see got any thing wrong..
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dunno now so sibuk kenot ride much edy

but im sure its no prob one, 250 is simple dunno what could be wrong lol.

i suggest u keep ur speed below 140kmh with regular oil service and ur blade 250 will be problem free for a longgggg time. so simple no radiator or waterpump or whatever to take care. except for the mono which most say will deteriorate (in term damping and strength) within 1-2years of use
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post Nov 24 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(T600 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:05 PM)
I haven't been to the shop in couple weeks, the remaining Z750 still priced at RM58,000?!  hmm.gif
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so z800 is more powerful than z750?
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post Nov 24 2012, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(supermoto @ Nov 24 2012, 11:13 PM)
so z800 is more powerful than z750?
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even if it is more powderful it wont be so significant diff in performance in real life....

not sure the spec but it should be more powerful as its a bored up version of z750

but kawa sure tuned it for more low end torque making hp not very diff

my guess la..

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post Nov 24 2012, 11:18 PM

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to rich ppl it wont, to poor ppl like me every cent counts.
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post Nov 24 2012, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(T600 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:05 PM)
I haven't been to the shop in couple weeks, the remaining Z750 still priced at RM58,000?!  hmm.gif
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they can't be selling below cost price - that would be suicidal

best bet? the dealership will not bring in the z800 until some suckers buy the z750 off their stocks

many bike shops are withholding their z8 orders me think to clear off their old, expensive z750 stock
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post Nov 24 2012, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(supermoto @ Nov 24 2012, 11:18 PM)
to rich ppl it wont, to poor ppl like me every cent counts.
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then, go and ride a laici

if u wanna whine, dun whine here

pipu here know how to appreciate every sen, and spend their hard earned money on bikes they like
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post Nov 24 2012, 11:24 PM

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kesian... market segmentation... deswai no good stuff sad.gif
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QUOTE(supermoto @ Nov 24 2012, 11:18 PM)
to rich ppl it wont, to poor ppl like me every cent counts.
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z750
a) Maximum power 77.7 kW {106.0 PS} @ 10,500 rpm
b) Maximum torque 78.0 N∙m {8.0 kgf∙m} @ 8,300 rpm
203kg

z800
a) Maximum power 83.0 kW {113 PS} / 10,200 rpm
b) Maximum torque 83.0 N*m {8.5 kgf*m} / 8,000 rpm
229kg


like i said, better lower range torque, and only increase 8hp

by stat z800 better and faster but at added weight. but in real life it wont be so significant unless ergonomic is change

if its about cent, no need ask which more power coz clearly z800 is much cheaper choice, if for 20hp u fork up extra 10K, clearly money not an issues

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post Nov 24 2012, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(izzizahari @ Nov 24 2012, 11:24 PM)
z750
  a) Maximum power    77.7 kW {106.0 PS} @ 10,500 rpm 
  b) Maximum torque        78.0 N∙m {8.0 kgf∙m} @ 8,300 rpm
  203kg

z800
        a) Maximum power    83.0 kW {113 PS} / 10,200 rpm 
  b) Maximum torque        83.0 N*m {8.5 kgf*m} / 8,000 rpm
229kg
like i said, better lower range torque, and only increase 8hp

by stat z800 better and faster but at added weight. but in real life it wont be so significant unless ergonomic is change
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the weights are DRY or FULL weights?

sometimes some manufacturers like to put there 160kg only (ex duc streetfighter), but then put very little notice, 160kg dry - minus the 2kg worth of motor oil and another 10kg worth of fuel
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post Nov 24 2012, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 24 2012, 11:26 PM)
the weights are DRY or FULL weights?

sometimes some manufacturers like to put there 160kg only (ex duc streetfighter), but then put very little notice, 160kg dry - minus the 2kg worth of motor oil and another 10kg worth of fuel
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from kawa malaysia, i believe its dry weight unless stated

***oopps my fault, it stated curb weight, so should be with oil and some fuel

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post Nov 24 2012, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(T600 @ Nov 24 2012, 11:28 PM)
Z750 is 226kg full, and Z800 is about 229kg full, according to their website.
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3kg diff is negligible


heck, even my er6n weighs that much, and i still think it has wayy too much HP and torque for my use (yet)

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QUOTE(izutaisa @ Nov 23 2012, 08:07 PM)
"duke 200 top speed is 200 ", is what u missed
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Jilaka.... dayummm.... Ini best punya lauk. .. any1 kind enough to link back the happening ??

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